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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: TimK2003 on March 03, 2009, 11:10:07 PM
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As seen last night on Colorado TV:
The Colorado Lottery (http://\"https://colorado.secondchancebonuszone.com/thepriceisright/prizes.php\") has just kicked off a brand new $5 TPIR scratch off ticket. (http://\"http://coloradolottery.com/index.cfm/id/62/FeaturedGameID/170/go/ThePriceisRight09/\")
The new :30 lottery TV ad features Rich "A New CAAAAHHH" Fields touting the game in both voice & image, where all non-winning tickets can be entered in for a chance to attend one of 2 special "lottery winners only" TPIR Live shows in Las Vegas, including 4 nights in Vegas, airfare and $5,000 in cash.
Top winning prize on the Colorado Instant game is $100,000
According to the CO Lottery website, there will be a chance (albeit small) for someone to walk out of the special Vegas show with $1,000,000.
And of course, the chance to meet fellow Invisioner Randy West!!
Any other states going in on this venture yet???
/So far, 0 for 1 on instant winnings.
//Was 72 degrees and Sunny in Colorado today, so that made up for the loss.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'209462\' date=\'Mar 3 2009, 11:10 PM\']
Any other states going in on this venture yet???
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I've seen the spot at least a half dozen times the last several days here in KY. The ticket apparently launched here too.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'209463\' date=\'Mar 3 2009, 11:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'209462\' date=\'Mar 3 2009, 11:10 PM\']
Any other states going in on this venture yet???
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I've seen the spot at least a half dozen times the last several days here in KY. The ticket apparently launched here too.
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The Kentucky Lottery offers a top prize of $40,000 instead of $100K.
http://www.kylottery.com/apps/player/ (http://\"http://www.kylottery.com/apps/player/\")
Brian
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West Virginia now has their own $10 TPIR ticket. However, to get an entry to see the show in Vegas is different. Part of the ticket is the big wheel. You scratch off the wheel and whatever the pointer lands on is what you win. You could get anything from $0 to an ENTRY mark (which you send in for the chance for the Vegas trip) to $100,000 (and I was so close the last time).
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[quote name=\'rebelwrest\' post=\'209470\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 05:53 AM\']
West Virginia now has their own $10 TPIR ticket.[/quote]
Is it just me, or does blowing $10 on a scratch-off lottery ticket seem a little excessive friggin' insane?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'209489\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 10:01 AM\']
Is it just me, or does blowing $10 on a scratch-off lottery ticket seem a little excessive friggin' insane?
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Only for you, me and the kind of people who know who Suzie Ormann is. Over the years I worked for the California lottery's TV show I saw hundreds of janitorial workers and folks on disability who had invested the only bucks in their pockets for a chance to change their lives. I don't remember a single doctor, lawyer or stock broker, but that's likely to change! Hope to see an Invisioner spin the big TPiR-Live wheel for a cool million!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'rebelwrest\' post=\'209470\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 08:53 AM\'] You could get anything from $0 to an ENTRY mark (which you send in for the chance for the Vegas trip) to $100,000 (and I was so close the last time).[/quote]Clearly, you have no idea how these things work, do you?
Is it just me, or does blowing $10 on a scratch-off lottery ticket seem a little excessive friggin' insane?
No different then throwing $10 down on a spin of the roulette wheel, IMO, which many, many people do.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'209489\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 01:01 PM\']
Is it just me, or does blowing $10 on a scratch-off lottery ticket seem a little excessive friggin' insane?
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Fixed that for you.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'209499\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 11:23 AM\']
No different then throwing $10 down on a spin of the roulette wheel, IMO, which many, many people do.[/quote]
I suggest it's a LOT different. The ROI of a roulette bet, even stick-it-all-on-00, is a LOT higher than a lottery ticket. On a $10 bet, the odds of a $360 payout, the longest shot on the table, is, what, 37-to-1. You're not getting CLOSE to that with the lottery. (According to this (http://\"http://www.wvlottery.com/games/detail_instants.aspx?game_id=523\"), the odds of a $400 hit are 1 in 9,512.)
Personally I think they're both wastes of money, but one's way more of a sucker bet than the other.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'209501\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 02:32 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'209499\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 11:23 AM\']
No different then throwing $10 down on a spin of the roulette wheel, IMO, which many, many people do.[/quote]
I suggest it's a LOT different. The ROI of a roulette bet, even stick-it-all-on-00, is a LOT higher than a lottery ticket. On a $10 bet, the odds of a $360 payout, the longest shot on the table, is, what, 37-to-1. You're not getting CLOSE to that with the lottery. (According to this (http://\"http://www.wvlottery.com/games/detail_instants.aspx?game_id=523\"), the odds of a $400 hit are 1 in 9,512.)[/quote]You have a 1:38 shot of winning on an American roulette wheel. Something that I don't believe you factored in is the fact that you have a chance to win a smaller prize on the lottery ticket, while if you go $10 straight up on a single number in roulette, its win $360 or nothing at all.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'209508\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 12:25 PM\']
You have a 1:38 shot of winning on an American roulette wheel.[/quote]
You're right. That makes all the difference in the world.
Something that I don't believe you factored in is the fact that you have a chance to win a smaller prize on the lottery ticket, while if you go $10 straight up on a single number in roulette, its win $360 or nothing at all.
You're right, I didn't, and I anticipated this response. Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me that that brings the lottery odds anywhere close to the roulette ones?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'209517\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 05:10 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'209508\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 12:25 PM\']
You have a 1:38 shot of winning on an American roulette wheel.[/quote]
You're right. That makes all the difference in the world.[/quote]
The house edge on a single zero roulette wheel is 2.7%. On an American roulette wheel, its nearly double (http://\"http://wizardofodds.com/roulette\") at 5.28%. So, despite your claim to the contrary, it does make a difference.
Something that I don't believe you factored in is the fact that you have a chance to win a smaller prize on the lottery ticket, while if you go $10 straight up on a single number in roulette, its win $360 or nothing at all.You're right, I didn't, and I anticipated this response. Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me that that brings the lottery odds anywhere close to the roulette ones?
I could attempt to present more evidence, but you'd sit there and believe that you're correct regardless, so I won't.
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I could be wrong in this case, as I've only seen Indiana, Ohio, and Michigan lottery tickets, but generally the odds I see of winning any prize on most tickets (as printed on the back of the ticket) are 1:3.5 - 1:5, which doesn't make a large bet seem quite so ludicrous.
EDIT: It's been presented to me that the odds on this ticket are 1:2.83
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Ohio started selling a TPiR ticket this past Friday--$5 per play, with a top prize of $100,000.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'209489\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 01:01 PM\']Is it just me, or does blowing $10 on a scratch-off lottery ticket seem
a little excessive friggin' insane?[/quote]
So what's your analysis of, say, the $25 scratcher (http://\"http://www.palottery.state.pa.us/instant-game-show.aspx?id=326\")?
/Winning the top prize is easier than winning the 2nd best prize?
//Would rather spend his $25 on video poker
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'209525\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 06:08 PM\']
So what's your analysis of, say, the $25 scratcher (http://\"http://www.palottery.state.pa.us/instant-game-show.aspx?id=326\")?
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"It stinks." (http://\"http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/58/Barry002.jpg/225px-Barry002.jpg\")
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Played the Ohio $5 ticket, won $10. Not bad.
It's just a "match your number to ours to win" type ticket, nothing fancy (no pricing game tie-ins, etc.). However, non-winners can be sent in to win a prize package to Vegas show like previously stated, and all you gotta do is fill out your info and slap a stamp on it and it's ready to go like a postcard. Not too shabby.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'209522\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 02:51 PM\']
The house edge on a single zero roulette wheel is 2.7%. On an American roulette wheel, its nearly double (http://\"http://wizardofodds.com/roulette\") at 5.28%. So, despite your claim to the contrary, it does make a difference.[/quote]
I know I don't need to tell you that the house edge doubles because the house collects on any bet that doesn't involve the 0 or 00 (in other words, all but, what, 9 of the 150 or so bets?) when one of those come up and has not one thing to do with the single-number bet to which I referred, which is in fact a .07% difference between a Euro wheel and an American one.
I could attempt to present more evidence, but you'd sit there and believe that you're correct regardless, so I won't.
The math is actually really easy, and right there on the page I linked to. If you bought up every single one of the 780,000 tickets at $10 a throw (for a total of $7,800,000), you would win every prize, which totals up to $6,488,900. Which works out to a house edge of just a hair under 17%. Which is actually closer than I thought the two would be, but still not really comparable.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'209528\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 06:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'209525\' date=\'Mar 4 2009, 06:08 PM\']
So what's your analysis of, say, the $25 scratcher (http://\"http://www.palottery.state.pa.us/instant-game-show.aspx?id=326\")?[/quote]
"It stinks." (http://\"http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/58/Barry002.jpg/225px-Barry002.jpg\")[/quote]
"Hey, that's my line." (http://\"http://www.mychemicaltoilet.com/critic.jpg\")