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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Matt Ottinger on July 27, 2008, 09:23:10 AM
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Can anybody give me (with certainty) the original 1984 air dates of the Celebrity Week of Trivia Trap, with Bill Cullen, Betty White, Tom Poston, Jayne Meadows, Jamie Farr and Vicki Lawrence? It would be ever so appreciated.
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12/10/84-12/14/84.
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If this turns out to be incorrect, I do apologize.
But I am very close to absolute certainty that it was the second full week of December 1984 since I know it was near the final episode of my all-time favorite soap opera The Edge Of Night, which went off the air on December 28th. So unless senility has truly taken over, that would place the appearances of Bill Cullen, et.al. at December 10-14, 1984.
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My info confirms what Don said--12/10/84 to 12/14/84.
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Thanks to all three. That's consistent with the episode numbers GSN has on its published schedule, but one source had it in late November, and that had me thinking maybe it was a sweeps deal, and I just wanted to be sure.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'192223\' date=\'Jul 27 2008, 12:02 PM\']
one source had it in late November, and that had me thinking maybe it was a sweeps deal, and I just wanted to be sure.
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Someone among our number may have in their TV Guide collection some issues from November-December 1984 which will hopefully confirm the dates for you.
They also could be on microfilm at somebody's public library.
Seeing you say late November has me thinking I may have wrapped up my studies for the quarter in college as this all-star tournament was being televised. And the quarter ended just before Thanksgiving.
Sorry to play the wishy-washy card.
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I have the Friday show from the original broadcast. During the credits, the shows described in the voiceover (double date on Benson, Webster learning a lesson about God) both originally aired on 11/23/84.
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'192235\' date=\'Jul 27 2008, 01:49 PM\']
I have the Friday show from the original broadcast. During the credits, the shows described in the voiceover (double date on Benson, Webster learning a lesson about God) both originally aired on 11/23/84.
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Very good, AllStar.
Sorry, Matt. I confused the end of EON with the end of the academic term. And I do remember seeing some of these episodes now on the Gamertsfelder Hall main lobby television. Glad you got the certain confirmation, though.
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'192235\' date=\'Jul 27 2008, 01:49 PM\']
I have the Friday show from the original broadcast. During the credits, the shows described in the voiceover (double date on Benson, Webster learning a lesson about God) both originally aired on 11/23/84.[/quote]
See, here's the mystery! Why would three reasonably smart people (well, two reasonably smart people & Don) immediately chime in with the same dates, only to have this confound the matter?
It's not so terribly important (and my 1984 TVGs are stored, unfortunately), but I am baffled as to why we have differing information.
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If I had to take a stab, I'd say it at least partially goes back to GSN airing Trivia Trap - and for that matter all the Goodson shows - in production order. Given the known start date for the series and the fact that the 5 celebrity episodes are, in the order GSN airs them shows 46-50, one could make the assumption they were the 46th-50th aired episodes as well.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'192239\' date=\'Jul 27 2008, 02:35 PM\']
(well, two reasonably smart people & Don)[/quote]
Lackaday, I believe I've been the victim of a perfect squelch.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'192241\' date=\'Jul 27 2008, 02:48 PM\']
If I had to take a stab, I'd say it at least partially goes back to GSN airing Trivia Trap - and for that matter all the Goodson shows - in production order. Given the known start date for the series and the fact that the 5 celebrity episodes are, in the order GSN airs them shows 46-50, one could make the assumption they were the 46th-50th aired episodes as well.
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Let me add this: the show from the Friday before the celebrity week that GSN aired... Bob says that the champs are coming back on Monday with no mention of the celebrity week. This would further corroborate that they were aired out of production order.
Also, back when I was keeping an episode guide for Eubanks CS, GSN did this as well. Kids weeks were taped after shows that followed it in airing order. The kids weeks probably had a short turnaround... at least the one in December '86 did...
Last time round that GSN aired these episodes, I did seek out the NY Times on microfilm and there was no sign or mention of the celebrity week... not that I was expecting to find anything on it...
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I taped one of the shows for the week and on it there is a promo for ABC's airing of "Arthur" which would confirm the week of Nov 19-23 1984. No notation of any guests in the TV Guide listing for the week.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'192378\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 10:19 AM\']
No notation of any guests in the TV Guide listing for the week.
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OK. That saves me a trip to the local library then. Thanks, Jimmy. Sorry again, Matt.
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'192378\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 10:19 AM\']
Sig is on summer vacation. Robert Q. Lewis will fill in until Sig returns.
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Cool! I love his sigs.
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'192235\' date=\'Jul 27 2008, 12:49 PM\']
Webster learning a lesson about God
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"And on a very special WEBSTER. . ."
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'192389\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 11:15 AM\']
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'192235\' date=\'Jul 27 2008, 12:49 PM\']
Webster learning a lesson about God
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"And on a very special WEBSTER. . ."
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I don't think I ever watched one episode of that program, special or otherwise.
What started that "special episode" kick anyway? Was it the Happy Days show where Richie wrecks his motorcycle and Fonzie bawls at his hospital bedside?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'192392\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 08:18 AM\']
What started that "special episode" kick anyway? Was it the Happy Days show where Richie wrecks his motorcycle and Fonzie bawls at his hospital bedside?[/quote]
Naw, it was when episodes of M*A*S*H started popping up that Alan Alda directed.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'192397\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 11:32 AM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'192392\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 08:18 AM\']
What started that "special episode" kick anyway? Was it the Happy Days show where Richie wrecks his motorcycle and Fonzie bawls at his hospital bedside?[/quote]
Naw, it was when episodes of M*A*S*H started popping up that Alan Alda directed.
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Weren't they all low or non-existent on the comedy side for the most part after Larry Linville left?
The bad dreams episode, Steve Newsom's breakdown and certainly the last show.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'192399\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 10:36 AM\']
Weren't they all low or non-existent on the comedy side for the most part after Larry Linville left?
The bad dreams episode, Steve Newsom's breakdown and certainly the last show.
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Not all of them. The "B.J.'s wedding anniversary" ep was pretty funny (especially the part where Hawkeye impersonates Charles).
/"I want an harmonica."
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'192378\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 10:19 AM\']
Sig is on summer vacation. Robert Q. Lewis will fill in until Sig returns.
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GSN program note: There'll be a full hour of Robert Q. to begin your August early upon the morning of this Friday when Jimmy's substitute sig guests on the panel of What's My Line? followed by The Name's The Same, moderated by he.
ObTNTS: Joan Alexander has really been looking hot.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'192401\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 10:42 AM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'192399\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 10:36 AM\']
Weren't they all low or non-existent on the comedy side for the most part after Larry Linville left?
The bad dreams episode, Steve Newsom's breakdown and certainly the last show.
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Not all of them. The "B.J.'s wedding anniversary" ep was pretty funny (especially the part where Hawkeye impersonates Charles).
/"I want an harmonica."
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I personally liked the one where Col. Potter was loopy on sleeping pills...
Final season was just WAY too preachy...but they ended on a high enough note.