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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: davemackey on July 19, 2008, 06:56:38 AM
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I got an email last night from the Millionaire contestant staff. Even though I was on the show two seasons ago, I'm still getting the periodic notes from them. It appears that among the changes that are coming for the 2008-2009 season is the following: you must now provide pictures of your Phone-A-Friends. I guess they're going to show them on the screen as their calls are taking place.
Season 7 specialty shows are going to include the return of the popular Brides.com Wedding Week and Netflix Million Dollar Movie Week, plus three new ones: Famous Names week, Halloween Week, and 3 Generations Week (in which three generations of a family play together).
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Am I the only person who hates the [insert name of sponsor here] Wedding Week?
(Or most of the other "specialty" weeks in general?)
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'191318\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 06:56 AM\']
you must now provide pictures of your Phone-A-Friends. I guess they're going to show them on the screen as their calls are taking place.
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Also, no longer will the Phone-A-Friends be heard. What they say will be captioned onto the screen. It's Michael Tiller's idea. And, no, Fedya, you're not alone.
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What could possibly be the reason for not using the audio, but captioning the response?
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'191326\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 09:58 AM\']
What could possibly be the reason for not using the audio, but captioning the response?[/quote]And, as I thought, Don Howard claims another victim.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'191322\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 10:01 AM\']
Also, no longer will the Phone-A-Friends be heard. What they say will be captioned onto the screen. It's Michael Tiller's idea.[/quote]
Are they going to be blasting the MG-HS Hour theme during this while putting an annoying 10-second bumper before the start of it?
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'191326\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 10:58 AM\']
What could possibly be the reason for not using the audio, but captioning the response?
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I think there's this Federal regulation in which any phone conversation that is aired has to be agreed to by the person being called. Did the Millionaire people run into a situation where the Phone-A-Friend didn't agree to have his/her voice played on air?
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I am amazed. I shouldn't be, but I am.
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[quote name=\'byrd62\' post=\'191330\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 11:54 AM\']
[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'191326\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 10:58 AM\']
What could possibly be the reason for not using the audio, but captioning the response?
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I think there's this Federal regulation in which any phone conversation that is aired has to be agreed to by the person being called. Did the Millionaire people run into a situation where the Phone-A-Friend didn't agree to have his/her voice played on air?
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You guys can't be this dense.
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I don't see anything wrong with the pictures. Just a little something extra.
Not too big on the theme weeks (surprised there isn't Tax Free week), but I will watch the Three Generations week. That sounds like fun.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191340\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 02:05 PM\']
[quote name=\'byrd62\' post=\'191330\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 11:54 AM\']
[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'191326\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 10:58 AM\']
What could possibly be the reason for not using the audio, but captioning the response?
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I think there's this Federal regulation in which any phone conversation that is aired has to be agreed to by the person being called. Did the Millionaire people run into a situation where the Phone-A-Friend didn't agree to have his/her voice played on air?
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You guys can't be this dense.
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Then I'm dense too.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'191341\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 12:07 PM\']
I don't see anything wrong with the pictures. Just a little something extra.
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I see a LOT wrong with the pictures, if you're asked to submit them prior to being selected as a contestant.
If not, though, yeah, no biggie.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'191352\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 03:26 PM\']
I see a LOT wrong with the pictures, if you're asked to submit them prior to being selected as a contestant.
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(thinks for a minute)
HELLO....I do see the...well...flaw with that. :)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'191347\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 02:14 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191340\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 02:05 PM\']
[quote name=\'byrd62\' post=\'191330\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 11:54 AM\']
[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'191326\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 10:58 AM\']
What could possibly be the reason for not using the audio, but captioning the response?
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I think there's this Federal regulation in which any phone conversation that is aired has to be agreed to by the person being called. Did the Millionaire people run into a situation where the Phone-A-Friend didn't agree to have his/her voice played on air?
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You guys can't be this dense.
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Then I'm dense too.
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If you couldn't see that Don was making fun of Michael Tiller for his YouTube game show disasters, then I can't help you.
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Uh...can I take back that other post about Stosh being fooled?
*walks, head bowed, into the sunset*
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191362\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 03:57 PM\']If you couldn't see that Don was making fun of Michael Tiller for his YouTube game show disasters, then I can't help you.[/quote]
Far be it from me to butt into a thread I haven't previously taken part in just to reference a second thread I haven't been taking part in...but aren't you the same PYLdude who's spent most of the past day over in the Drew Carey thread yelling at Clementson about Double Prices?
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Here's the big beef I have with the Tiller lad.
This is the policy he has on his YouTube home page.
It is cut and pasted word for word from there:
"And folks, there are no tolerations here. All spam, rude, revolting, bad comments on ANY video that I post will immediately be deleted, no exceptions".
No tolerance for criticism. He'll go very far in show business.
As for the WWTBAM new photo policy for its 7th syndicated season, they're gonna do what they're gonna do and I'll enjoy your insights and comments as always when the programs begin airing.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'191391\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 08:29 PM\']
"And folks, there are no tolerations here. All spam, rude, revolting, bad comments on ANY video that I post will immediately be deleted, no exceptions".
No tolerance for criticism. He'll go very far in show business.[/quote]
Flame me all you want, but as a Tiller fan, I respect that policy.
/Prepares flame shield.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'191371\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 05:34 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191362\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 03:57 PM\']If you couldn't see that Don was making fun of Michael Tiller for his YouTube game show disasters, then I can't help you.[/quote]
Far be it from me to butt into a thread I haven't previously taken part in just to reference a second thread I haven't been taking part in...but aren't you the same PYLdude who's spent most of the past day over in the Drew Carey thread yelling at Clementson about Double Prices?
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No, that was Mark yelling at him about Double Prices.
I was complaining about how he appeared to be ripping Drew for one little thing and not making it clear that he was going after him for a lot of his mannerisms, after which I thought it over and conceded some of the points.
That said, though, Don did make it clear who he was making fun of there...maybe we don't know as much as I wanna give us credit for? I can't tell.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'191359\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 02:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'191352\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 03:26 PM\']
I see a LOT wrong with the pictures, if you're asked to submit them prior to being selected as a contestant.
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(thinks for a minute)
HELLO....I do see the...well...flaw with that. :)
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WWTBAM must now be a front for the Department of Homeland Security *sigh*
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191405\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 12:06 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'191371\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 05:34 PM\'][quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191362\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 03:57 PM\']If you couldn't see that Don was making fun of Michael Tiller for his YouTube game show disasters, then I can't help you.[/quote]Far be it from me to butt into a thread I haven't previously taken part in just to reference a second thread I haven't been taking part in...but aren't you the same PYLdude who's spent most of the past day over in the Drew Carey thread yelling at Clementson about Double Prices?[/quote]No, that was Mark yelling at him about Double Prices.
I was complaining about how he appeared to be ripping Drew for one little thing and not making it clear that he was going after him for a lot of his mannerisms, after which I thought it over and conceded some of the points.
That said, though, Don did make it clear who he was making fun of there...maybe we don't know as much as I wanna give us credit for? I can't tell.
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And thank you for proving my point -- you're in no position to be criticizing someone for missing the point.
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'191397\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 10:10 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'191391\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 08:29 PM\']
"And folks, there are no tolerations here. All spam, rude, revolting, bad comments on ANY video that I post will immediately be deleted, no exceptions".
No tolerance for criticism. He'll go very far in show business.[/quote]
Flame me all you want, but as a Tiller fan, I respect that policy.
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I'm not going to flame you, but wouldn't it be helpful to him to, along with the compliments, know what needs to be worked on for improvement for future offerings?
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'191397\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 07:10 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'191391\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 08:29 PM\']"And folks, there are no tolerations here. All spam, rude, revolting, bad comments on ANY video that I post will immediately be deleted, no exceptions".No tolerance for criticism. He'll go very far in show business.[/quote]Flame me all you want, but as a Tiller fan, I respect that policy.
/Prepares flame shield.[/quote]It's a fine policy to have, if a bit puritan in tone. But golly, what a doofus he is. From the pre-roll to the Powerpoint captioned photo game show retreads...oy.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'191417\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 07:26 AM\']
And thank you for proving my point -- you're in no position to be criticizing someone for missing the point.
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Well, excuse me for thinking people should've gotten one of the easiest jokes I've seen here.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191437\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 12:30 PM\']
Well, excuse me for thinking people should've gotten one of the easiest jokes I've seen here.[/quote]
Hey, weren't you the guy who was whining because you weren't getting enough credit for "tuning over a new leaf" (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=15919&view=findpost&p=190523\") a week or so ago?
So much for that, eh?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'191439\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 02:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191437\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 12:30 PM\']
Well, excuse me for thinking people should've gotten one of the easiest jokes I've seen here.[/quote]
Hey, weren't you the guy who was whining because you weren't getting enough credit for "tuning over a new leaf" (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=15919&view=findpost&p=190523\") a week or so ago?
So much for that, eh?
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Yeah, okay, no.
I made up my mind that I wasn't going to be as nitpicky or as much of an asshole.
Doesn't mean I'm not going to give it up COMPLETELY...just do it once in awhile.
Slow process.
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And now to try and steer this back on topic:
How easy do you think it would be for somebody to try and get around this (i.e., fake pictures and the like)?
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191444\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 01:29 PM\']
How easy do you think it would be for somebody to try and get around this (i.e., fake pictures and the like)?[/quote]
Well, the question is, will they need to? The suggestion that contestant selection was going to be based on this was wholly my own ex-rectum I-wonder-if speculation. If they're collected after the fact and it's in no way part of the process, I don't see where it's going to be a problem.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'191391\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 09:29 PM\']Here's the big beef I have with the Tiller lad.
This is the policy he has on his YouTube home page.
It is cut and pasted word for word from there:
"And folks, there are no tolerations here. All spam, rude, revolting, bad comments on ANY video that I post will immediately be deleted, no exceptions".
No tolerance for criticism. He'll go very far in show business.[/quote]
Count me as another who cannot read that, at least on the surface, as no tolerance for criticism. YouTube comments, as a whole, are a fetid pile of compost, and were I brave enough to post videos on there and allow comments, I would certainly delete all of the "rude, revolting, bad" comments without hesitation.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'191449\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 04:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'191391\' date=\'Jul 19 2008, 09:29 PM\']Here's the big beef I have with the Tiller lad.
This is the policy he has on his YouTube home page.
It is cut and pasted word for word from there:
"And folks, there are no tolerations here. All spam, rude, revolting, bad comments on ANY video that I post will immediately be deleted, no exceptions".
No tolerance for criticism. He'll go very far in show business.[/quote]
Count me as another who cannot read that, at least on the surface, as no tolerance for criticism. YouTube comments, as a whole, are a fetid pile of compost, and were I brave enough to post videos on there and allow comments, I would certainly delete all of the "rude, revolting, bad" comments without hesitation.
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Yeah, but if the videos suck (as they do in a lot of cases...just be glad you've never watched a Let's Play video), then deleting the comments equals a lack of tolerance for criticism.
And Mr. Tiller's videos are not exactly of a high quality, despite his best efforts.
People can be spiteful on YouTube, yes. But that doesn't mean that every "rude, revolting, bad" comment is without warrant.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191450\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 02:04 PM\']
Yeah, but if the videos suck (as they do in a lot of cases...just be glad you've never watched a Let's Play video), then deleting the comments equals a lack of tolerance for criticism.[/quote]
While I'm no Tiller fan, this depends greatly on where the line is, no? If he's deleting "OMG YOU ARE TEH SUX00RZ," then I don't see the problem. If he's deleting anything other than "OMG YOU R00L D00D," then that's a lack of tolerance.
Would it surprise me if the line was a little closer to the latter than the former? Not really.
Keeping your YouTube commnts clean of the proof of John Gabriel's Greater Internet F**kwad Theory (http://\"http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/\") (link NSFW) is no different than spam filtering, though, and that's totally his choice.
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They are also only going to have a max of three PAFs per person, instead of five. The PAFs also will have to sign a release. They never have had to before.
I have heard reports of former contestants being contacted about their interest in being phone-a-friends via webcam. I don't know if it actually will be part of the show this season or not though.
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With the mention of PAFs having to sign a release, would this mean that the producers might try to put some clause in there stating the PAF can't be on Google/Wikipedia/teh internetz during the call? If they did put such a thing in there, maybe they could force the contestant to forfeit the prizes if the PAF is caught doing that.
/I know, it's unenforceable
//But if it's in the contract they sign, you never know...
///Americans: We don't read the fine print before we sign
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[quote name=\'NewJersey137\' post=\'191464\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 05:31 PM\']
/I know, it's unenforceable[/quote]
There's your answer. Period.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'191474\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 08:19 PM\']
[quote name=\'NewJersey137\' post=\'191464\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 05:31 PM\']
/I know, it's unenforceable[/quote]
There's your answer. Period.
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Exactly.
I don't think you're gonna hold people to the honor system there.
What's the position on Googling/searching among you guys? I was always curious, seeing as how it's been brought up a few times.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191476\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 09:36 PM\']
What's the position on Googling/searching among you guys? I was always curious, seeing as how it's been brought up a few times.
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We were told by the contestant producers that it was okay. My PAF Googled.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191476\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 06:36 PM\']
What's the position on Googling/searching among you guys? I was always curious, seeing as how it's been brought up a few times.[/quote]
Position? I'm given 30 seconds to do whatever I want with a friend. I'd only be screwing myself if I did anything else.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'191476\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 06:36 PM\']What's the position on Googling/searching among you guys? [/quote]It's a tool, just like using a map to help you drive somewhere, or a hammer to bang in a nail. If I have a tool, I will use it every time, as opposed to having a tool and not using it.
The only way you can enforce a "No Google!" rule is to have your PAFs onsite, like what Australia did in their most recent series.
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Not only am I in favor of letting the Phone a Friends use Google, if I was in the Hot Seat, I'd be reading the question in the form of search terms to save time ("Quote -- The Old Man and the Sea -- end quote, apprentice!")
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'191478\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 08:45 PM\']Position? I'm given 30 seconds to do whatever I want with a friend. I'd only be screwing myself if I did anything else.[/quote]I nominate this for Best Post To Take Out Of Context.
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[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'191486\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 07:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'191478\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 08:45 PM\']Position? I'm given 30 seconds to do whatever I want with a friend. I'd only be screwing myself if I did anything else.[/quote]I nominate this for Best Post To Take Out Of Context.[/quote]
Sadly, I'm just wondering what I would do with the other fifteen seconds. :)
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[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'191486\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 09:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'191478\' date=\'Jul 20 2008, 08:45 PM\']Position? I'm given 30 seconds to do whatever I want with a friend. I'd only be screwing myself if I did anything else.[/quote]I nominate this for Best Post To Take Out Of Context.
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Congratulations sir, you win the thread. (http://\"http://gscentral.net/super12.JPG\")
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I just got back from vacation today; was gone since Wednesday.
I asked Michael Davies if the show would be getting any of the international changes which have been going on since 2waytraffic took over. He said...
Brace yourself for the most exciting evolution of the format since Super Millionaire. All unique to the US at this point – we have not imported any of the international modifications.
No idea what those necessarily are anymore, though. I'll try to find out soon though, because tomorrow is a rehearsal show.
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I share the concern that the "photogenic" qualities of the Phone-A-Friends could be used in contestant selection... but I guess it doesn't help that I already had a pretty dim view of the program's selections after seeing a few shows in person (I was at the tapings of three of the shows with Billy Bush) Honestly, I've never really enjoyed syndie Millionaire.
That said, the "changes" spoken of by Mr. Davies do seem quite exciting, so I'll be looking forward to more on them.
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Can't wait to hear about it. I initially cringed when I heard about the 12-question fast track, but came to like it a lot.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'191601\' date=\'Jul 21 2008, 07:46 PM\']
Brace yourself for the most exciting evolution of the format since Super Millionaire. All unique to the US at this point – we have not imported any of the international modifications.
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Cripes. I sware, if they add a friggin video wall and change the format that worked since the show premiered in 2002, I'll never watch again. I motion that if this happens, the Game Show Forum should shut down.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'191606\' date=\'Jul 21 2008, 05:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'191601\' date=\'Jul 21 2008, 07:46 PM\']
Brace yourself for the most exciting evolution of the format since Super Millionaire. All unique to the US at this point – we have not imported any of the international modifications.
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Cripes. I sware, if they add a friggin video wall and change the format that worked since the show premiered in 2002, I'll never watch again. I motion that if this happens, the Game Show Forum should shut down.
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I think that with inflation, the top prize should be increased to $1,267,000. This change has been a long time coming.
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Post of the year frontrunner, right there.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'191606\' date=\'Jul 21 2008, 08:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'191601\' date=\'Jul 21 2008, 07:46 PM\']
Brace yourself for the most exciting evolution of the format since Super Millionaire. All unique to the US at this point – we have not imported any of the international modifications.
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Cripes. I sware, if they add a friggin video wall and change the format that worked since the show premiered in 2002, I'll never watch again. I motion that if this happens, the Game Show Forum should shut down.
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I lol'd. (http://\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/fostergray82/untitled-1.jpg\")
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I wish they would bring back the old phone qualifying contests again, or at least some sort of live, internet test like what Jeopardy! has done in the past.
Let's give Jane & John Doe in Anywhere, USA an equal of a shot at getting on as those who either live in NYC and can stop down to audition or those who wait in long lines at cattle calls in select cities.
/Nowadays, if you can afford the cost of an airline ticket, rental car and gas to get to an open audition, you probably don't need the million.
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I think that with inflation, the top prize should be increased to $1,267,000. This change has been a long time coming.
Or maybe re-instate the $10,000 per show where the jackpot isn't won - retroactive to the last time it was won. Gee...after 5 years, what would it be up to now? :)
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'191613\' date=\'Jul 21 2008, 07:40 PM\']
Let's give Jane & John Doe in Anywhere, USA an equal of a shot at getting on as those who either live in NYC and can stop down to audition or those who wait in long lines at cattle calls in select cities.
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Hold on just a second. I think they'd give MORE consideration to the residents of Anywhere, no?
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There are more changes to the new season here http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/clari...onaire-changes/ (http://\"http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/clarifying-millionaire-changes/\")