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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: tvmitch on April 13, 2008, 03:31:15 PM
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I think that the million-dollar game is a great twist to the format. The games have been wildly differing in the odds to win - from Safe Crackers' 1-in-3000 shot last night (if the digits repeated) to the easiest Clock Game ever.
What game would you use for the Million Dollar Game and why?
(Personally, I don't think there should be a risk involved - i.e., you shouldn't have to risk an already-won prize to win the million. But have at it...should be an interesting discussion.)
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Although unfeasible imagine playing Half-Off for a million dollars.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'183918\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 12:31 PM\']
What game would you use for the Million Dollar Game and why?
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Two Wrong Prices.
/but, Chris, there is no game called Two Wrong Prices on TPiR!
//EXACTLY
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'183919\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 02:34 PM\']
Although unfeasible imagine playing Half-Off for a million dollars.
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Ummm...
/am I getting whooshed here?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183920\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 03:34 PM\']
Two Wrong Prices.
/but, Chris, there is no game called Two Wrong Prices on TPiR!
//EXACTLY
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I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
(Million bucks if you nail your showcase on the nose. Only way.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183920\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 03:34 PM\']
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'183918\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 12:31 PM\']
What game would you use for the Million Dollar Game and why?
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Two Wrong Prices.
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$69 and $420. Where's my milllion?
My proposal: a new game called Dumbest Fratboi T-Shirt.
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I thought the One Away million dollar bonus was the quintessential example of what it should be, because it didn't feel ridiculous and tacked on. So on that note, you could easily do "first try perfection = $1,000,000" for games like Switcheroo, Race Game and Bonkers. Switcheroo would probably be best, because you could build properly to the moment, whereas Race Game might be a disaster where the contestant uses a ton of time for their first try, blows it, and just has time for one more set of changes.
-Jason
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A few ideas for what one must do to win the million:
- Ten Chances: Getting each price right the first time.
- Cliff Hangers: If the mountain man only moves five steps or less.
- Check-Out: Having your total within 25¢ of the actual total.
- 3 Strikes: Correct placement on the first try of each number.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'183927\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 04:04 PM\']
A few ideas for what one must do to win the million:
- Ten Chances: Getting each price right the first time.
- Cliff Hangers: If the mountain man only moves five steps or less.
- Check-Out: Having your total within 25¢ of the actual total.
- 3 Strikes: Correct placement on the first try of each number.
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Check-Out should be within 5 cents.
The less predictable the outcome of a game, the easier it is to apply a million dollar bonus for nailing it on the first try. Most of the more wide-open games such as "Lucky Seven" or "Ten Chances" are of this ilk.
For "Double Prices" or "One Wrong Price", that won't fly - you have to add another element to the game.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'183919\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 03:34 PM\']
Although unfeasible imagine playing Half-Off for a million dollars.
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Woolery left Wheel.....where have you been?
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If we're using perfection as the key to the million, here's are a few I thought up:
Dice Game-Roll each of the last 4 numbers exactly right.
Pathfinder-Step to each of the last 4 numbers of the car without a misstep(It happened on its premiere & I fondly remember that).
Pocket Change-Guess each of the numbers in the price of the car without "raising" the cost of "buying" the car.
3 Strikes-Find & correctly place each of the numbers in the price of the car without pulling a strike & not making any wrong guesses.
Spelling Bee-If a player guessed the first small prize correctly & win the car the usual way, s/he can take the prizes won or risk it & try to guess the other 2 small prizes exactly.
Bonus Game-If a player places all 4 chips besides the shells, they are replaced with a special "gold" chip to be placed by the shell that has the ball under it.
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'183957\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 03:30 AM\'] Bonus Game-If a player places all 4 chips besides the shells, they are replaced with a special "gold" chip to be placed by the shell that has the ball under it. [/quote]
Don't you mean Shell Game?
And besides, there's already a $1,000 bonus for guessing which shell has the ball under it when all 4 chips are placed.
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[quote name=\'WhammyPower\' post=\'183960\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 08:23 AM\']
And besides, there's already a $1,000 bonus for guessing which shell has the ball under it when all 4 chips are placed.
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Well, there's already a $5000 bonus on Clock Game. But anyway, no way in hades will they make the million a 1-for-4 shot.
/...right?
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'183927\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 04:04 PM\']
A few ideas for what one must do to win the million:
- Ten Chances: Getting each price right the first time.
- Cliff Hangers: If the mountain man only moves five steps or less.
- Check-Out: Having your total within 25¢ of the actual total.
- 3 Strikes: Correct placement on the first try of each number.
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For 3 Strikes, I think it should be lighting up all 5 numbers without getting a strike. I think that would be just as difficult to pull off.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'183923\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 03:37 PM\']
My proposal: a new game called Dumbest Fratboi T-Shirt.
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They'd have to pay out too often.
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Hole in One: After you win the car, there's a putt line that's farther back than the other six.
Punchboard: Put a million dollar slip in one of the slots.
Any Number: Light up the numbers in the car without revealing any numbers in the small prize or piggy bank
Card Game: Get the price of the car within $100.
Pathfinder- Light up all the numbers in the price of the car without a mistake.
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[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'183965\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 10:30 AM\']Punchboard: Put a million dollar slip in one of the slots.[/quote]
I had the same idea, but the million dollar payoff would be only if it was hit with the first punch. Otherwise, it would be $25K.
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[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'183965\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 09:30 AM\']Card Game: Get the price of the car within $100.[/quote]While I like this idea in concept, I think it is too heavily dependent on skill...I'm not sure exactly how you would execute it.
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I've got more ideas:
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'183967\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 10:38 AM\']
[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'183965\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 09:30 AM\']Card Game: Get the price of the car within $100.[/quote]While I like this idea in concept, I think it is too heavily dependent on skill.
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There's a million on the line and we're complaining that it can be won based on skill!? One Away was entirely based on pricing acumen, as was Safe Crackers, Clock Game (arguably)...besides, contestants are doing just as well in daytime with the beefed-up ranges as they were before them, so I doubt this one would be paid out anyway. Unless you get one of the car-price-triflers from the internet ranks, and even then...
-Jason
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Ah shit.
I meant to type "luck" or say it is a skill-based game...but I went and screwed it up.
Dammit.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183968\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 11:38 AM\']
I've got more ideas:- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
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Tell us how you really feel, Mr. Lemon. :-)
I liked the Safe Crackers and One Away Games. A lot. Half Off and Clock Game I was slightly indifferent with. I HATED Plinko and Range's games. Personally, I would offer cash/prize bonuses instead, reserving the One Million dollar game for the showcases only.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183968\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 10:38 AM\']
I've got more ideas:- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
- Don't give away a friggin' million dollars.
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I take it that you're happy with a nighttime PIR without the need for a $1,000,000 attachment?
If so, count me as one of the interested.
The Inquisitive One
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[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' post=\'183974\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 09:01 AM\']
I take it that you're happy with a nighttime PIR without the need for a $1,000,000 attachment?[/quote]
Yep. Worked just fine in '86. I was marginally ok with it being given out for a DSW or a Showcase Showdown bonus spin (and even then: really, do they not have enough confidence in the show to let it stand on its own?), but this crap with pasting it onto the pricing games in an UTTERLY haphazard fashion just so the Bandit_Bobby's of the world can get a chubby while they bounce up and down in their little chairs is just idiotic.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183977\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 12:57 PM\']
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' post=\'183974\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 09:01 AM\']
I take it that you're happy with a nighttime PIR without the need for a $1,000,000 attachment?[/quote]
Yep. Worked just fine in '86. I was marginally ok with it being given out for a DSW or a Showcase Showdown bonus spin (and even then: really, do they not have enough confidence in the show to let it stand on its own?), but this crap with pasting it onto the pricing games in an UTTERLY haphazard fashion just so the Bandit_Bobby's of the world can get a chubby while they bounce up and down in their little chairs is just idiotic.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the 86' specials do miserably ratings wise?
I feel that maybe the network now has to feel that for a game show to succeed in Primetime it has to give out a Million Dollars because everyone else is too. Now of course I don't feel that's true, but an example of this is Singing Bee and Don't forget the Lyrics. IMHO, I think one of the major reasons why people didnt gravitate toward Bee is because the top prize was only $50,000. I say this only because I read that on a few other message boards. And with the current state of idiotic "style & cash over substance" in television today, should we really be surprised?
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'183980\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 12:36 PM\']Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the 86' specials do miserably ratings wise?[/quote]
It ran against Cosby, IIRC.
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'183980\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 10:36 AM\']
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the 86' specials do miserably ratings wise?[/quote]
Perhaps. I don't know and don't really care, to be honest. Joe's right in that it was Thursdays at 8, up against the NBC juggernaut lineup, though.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183987\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 03:59 PM\'][quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'183980\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 10:36 AM\']Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the 86' specials do miserably ratings wise?[/quote]Perhaps. I don't know and don't really care, to be honest.[/quote]
So...you don't care that your assertion of "it worked in 1986" was wrong?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'183997\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 05:08 PM\']
So...you don't care that your assertion of "it worked in 1986" was wrong?[/quote]
I don't think it was wrong. I thought it worked just fine. That they didn't beat the juggernaut that was NBC Thursday night (and make no mistake: NOBODY beat that juggernaut...putting the TPiR Special up again them was suicide before they ever went to air) is immaterial to me. I did not watch the show and say "ya know, this feels kinda cheap."
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'183973\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 12:00 PM\']
Personally, I would offer cash/prize bonuses instead, reserving the One Million dollar game for the showcases only.
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Exactly! It's just like what I said before -- DSW only within $1,000 and DSW + $1M within $250. But now that Fremantle has opened up the Pandora's Box full of the Mo' Money Syndrome, it's kind of hard to pull back on the way they give away the million now -- unless they keep it off of primetime for the rest of the season hoping Mr & Mrs. average viewer will forget how they have done it when the show returns to primetime next year.
That said, if Fremantle is still looking for $1M pricing games:
Pass The Buck: The contestant must have all 3 picks AND get the CAR space on the first pick.
For the million, they must play out the final 2 picks -- If the player hits LOSE EVERYTHING in either of the remaining 2 picks, game over!
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For those speaking from a ratings standpoint, would the 2002 primetime specials be a sufficient argument?
Outside from a one-off road trip, military audiences, and a $100,000 top prize on the big wheel, it was standard PIR fare.
Just a thought.
The Inquisitive One
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Million dollar game idea -
10 Chances - win all 3 prizes in 3 chances, win $1M - a stretch but it can be done
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Another million dollar game idea:
Take the Range Game and change the size of the board to about three times its normal size. Then have the range finder be a small rocket that fires up the board. Drew lights it, then the contestant can stop it with the stop button. That thing would shoot up fast, so you have to be quick!
But I do agree with Mr. Lemon: Don't give away a friggin' million dollars!!
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[quote name=\'tim\' post=\'184100\' date=\'Apr 15 2008, 11:40 PM\']10 Chances - win all 3 prizes in 3 chances, win $1M - a stretch but it can be done[/quote]
Lovely thought, but...
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'183927\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 04:04 PM\']- Ten Chances: Getting each price right the first time.[/quote]
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Poker Game: You are given the cash value of your IUFB, then sat down at a Texas Hold'em table against Allen Cunningham, who has a million dollars in front of him. You beat him heads-up, you get to keep the million.
Of course, like every other poker show, this will have to be edited down to show eight hours' worth of action in two minutes.
But, on a more serious note?...
Check Game: Get either $5,000 or $6,000 on the nose, win a million.
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for my million dollar game bonus game getting all 4 prizes
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[quote name=\'Ian\' post=\'186440\' date=\'May 20 2008, 08:06 PM\']
for my million dollar game bonus game getting all 4 prizes
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Evidently, you don't watch enough TPIR. That's not a good selection based on the fact that ot happens too often on the daytime show. I'm not sure if doing that and adding a BONUS window selection (as was done with Range Game) is a good idea either.
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'183966\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 09:38 AM\']
[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'183965\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 10:30 AM\']Punchboard: Put a million dollar slip in one of the slots.[/quote]
I had the same idea, but the million dollar payoff would be only if it was hit with the first punch. Otherwise, it would be $25K.
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50k good enough? Or are you gonna complain that the show gives away too much money here, too?
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'183923\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 02:37 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183920\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 03:34 PM\']
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'183918\' date=\'Apr 13 2008, 12:31 PM\']
What game would you use for the Million Dollar Game and why?
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Two Wrong Prices.
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$69 and $420. Where's my milllion?
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Today only...that's two million.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'186487\' date=\'May 20 2008, 11:49 PM\'][quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'183966\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 09:38 AM\'][quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'183965\' date=\'Apr 14 2008, 10:30 AM\']Punchboard: Put a million dollar slip in one of the slots.[/quote]I had the same idea, but the million dollar payoff would be only if it was hit with the first punch. Otherwise, it would be $25K.[/quote]
50k good enough? Or are you gonna complain that the show gives away too much money here, too?[/quote]
Wow, who pissed in your Wheaties?
A difference of $25K on a nighttime show is not Mo' Money, despite what you might think. And given you kvetched about a post made 5 weeks ago about a hypothetical situation which happened a week ago, I have a hunch you don't think much.