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Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: mparrish11 on February 05, 2008, 01:05:05 PM
Link to article at CNNMoney.com (http://\"http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/04/magazines/fortune/boyle_moment.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008020505\")

Begin discussion.

Matt
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: MikeK on February 05, 2008, 01:26:25 PM
Is there anything to discuss?  The only affect on employment would be on those greedy and/or stupid enough to reveal such information on TV.  If you're stupid enough to reveal such workplace incidents on TV, you deserve to be fired.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: clemon79 on February 05, 2008, 02:08:37 PM
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'177183\' date=\'Feb 5 2008, 10:26 AM\']
Is there anything to discuss?  The only affect on employment would be on those greedy and/or stupid enough to reveal such information on TV.[/quote]
...in other words, pretty much any Moment of Truth contestant.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: Robair on February 05, 2008, 04:37:22 PM
No, the only real effect on employment is that Mark L. Walberg is eating Vienna sausages only five nights a week instead of all seven.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: clemon79 on February 05, 2008, 04:51:43 PM
[quote name=\'Robair\' post=\'177203\' date=\'Feb 5 2008, 01:37 PM\']
No, the only real effect on employment is that Mark L. Walberg is eating Vienna sausages only five nights a week instead of all seven.
[/quote]
I haven't been able to eat Vienna sausages since first grade, when a classmate compared them to a certain part of the anatomy. Dunno why the phobia is limited to those and not other sausages, but there it is.

/my work here is finished
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: BrandonFG on February 05, 2008, 04:54:55 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'177204\' date=\'Feb 5 2008, 04:51 PM\']
I haven't been able to eat Vienna sausages since first grade, when a classmate compared them to a certain part of the anatomy. Dunno why the phobia is limited to those and not other sausages, but there it is.
[/quote]
-Milk
-Bread
-Brain Bleach

/Jumbo bottle
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: Fedya on February 06, 2008, 11:09:31 AM
Chris Lemon wrote:
Quote
I haven't been able to eat Vienna sausages since first grade, when a classmate compared them to a certain part of the anatomy.  Dunno why the phobia is limited to those and not other sausages, but there it is.
Other sausages are too big?

:-p

(Hey, you left a curveball hanging right over the plate....)
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: uncamark on February 06, 2008, 12:22:21 PM
[quote name=\'Robair\' post=\'177203\' date=\'Feb 5 2008, 03:37 PM\']
No, the only real effect on employment is that Mark L. Walberg is eating Vienna sausages only five nights a week instead of all seven.
[/quote]

Last night on "Chelsea Lately," Walberg said that it is difficult at times for him to look in the contestants' eyes and read some of the questions he has to read.  He then said, "but then I remind myself that I have to put the kids through private school."

Guess "Antiques Roadshow" doesn't cut it by itself.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: tvwxman on February 06, 2008, 01:20:51 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'177285\' date=\'Feb 6 2008, 12:22 PM\']
[quote name=\'Robair\' post=\'177203\' date=\'Feb 5 2008, 03:37 PM\']
No, the only real effect on employment is that Mark L. Walberg is eating Vienna sausages only five nights a week instead of all seven.
[/quote]

Last night on "Chelsea Lately," Walberg said that it is difficult at times for him to look in the contestants' eyes and read some of the questions he has to read.  He then said, "but then I remind myself that I have to put the kids through private school."

Guess "Antiques Roadshow" doesn't cut it by itself.
[/quote]
Having met Mark (and FYI, I think he's a really nice guy), he is very matter-of-fact about this, his prior jobs, and his attitude towards the business. He, like many of us, wishes he was doing classy, feel-good, educational television, but he's also quite happy to do this, if it means (sorta) steady work.

He isn't the first person to sell his soul to the TV devil to be successful on air, and he sure as hell won't be the last.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: uncamark on February 06, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'177290\' date=\'Feb 6 2008, 12:20 PM\']
Having met Mark (and FYI, I think he's a really nice guy), he is very matter-of-fact about this, his prior jobs, and his attitude towards the business. He, like many of us, wishes he was doing classy, feel-good, educational television, but he's also quite happy to do this, if it means (sorta) steady work.

He isn't the first person to sell his soul to the TV devil to be successful on air, and he sure as hell won't be the last.
[/quote]

What I'm wondering here is that there has to be some discomfort level at WGBH and PBS about Mark's new job.  Considering that public broadcasting attracts the elitist crackpots who will scream "sell out!" and "dumbing down!" about anything (and I do mean anything), is having as the host of your benign little antiques evaluation show the same guy who asks people if they've stopped beating their wife yet over on Fox a potential liability?

I would assume that Mark has talked to his bosses at WGBH and that they don't see it as a problem.  However, Mark is the third host of "Antiques Roadshow" in its history and I think everyone knows that he isn't the reason people tune in.  They can easily find someone else to do what he does.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: clemon79 on February 06, 2008, 03:04:07 PM
[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'177282\' date=\'Feb 6 2008, 08:09 AM\']
Other sausages are too big?
:-p
(Hey, you left a curveball hanging right over the plate....)
[/quote]
Sadly, t'ain't libel when it's true.

/bravo
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: clemon79 on February 06, 2008, 03:06:59 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'177299\' date=\'Feb 6 2008, 11:53 AM\']However, Mark is the third host of "Antiques Roadshow" in its history and I think everyone knows that he isn't the reason people tune in.[/quote]
Nope. I, for one, tune in to watch people get completely pwned when they find out that the multimillion-dollar antique diamond ring they found in their walls is paste.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: TLEberle on February 07, 2008, 12:12:23 AM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'177290\' date=\'Feb 6 2008, 10:20 AM\']Last night on "Chelsea Lately," Walberg said that it is difficult at times for him to look in the contestants' eyes and read some of the questions he has to read.  He then said, "but then I remind myself that I have to put the kids through private school."
Guess "Antiques Roadshow" doesn't cut it by itself.[/quote]I wonder if Mark gets all of these jobs because he's willing to take the gigs that no one else will touch. Of course, if he turns up his nose at something, well, he has his pride, but no money, and maybe the opportunities dry up. I certainly don't think any less of the guy for looking out for his family.

As to the notion that appearing on the show would bring about termination, I can't believe that it took me as long as it did to figure out that there must be a team of investigators combing over the past history of the contestant in order to find out the juiciest bits of information: it's not a standardized quiz, after all. It would not surprise me at all to find out that the contestants don't have any idea about that beforehand.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: clemon79 on February 07, 2008, 12:22:05 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'177331\' date=\'Feb 6 2008, 09:12 PM\']
It would not surprise me at all to find out that the contestants don't have any idea about that beforehand.
[/quote]
But they're gonna find out when they're taking the test that the answers are based on, because they have to be asked the questions. Nothing's stopping them from getting up and walking then.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: Chuck Sutton on February 07, 2008, 01:02:57 PM
Last night was weird.

He admits to stealing from his coworkers and from costumers  but lies about stuffing his underwear??

If he still worked as a waiter, he is certain to be fired.  It can't be good for business to have someone who admitted to comitting credit card fruad in your restaurant.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: Don Howard on February 07, 2008, 01:56:24 PM
[quote name=\'Chuck Sutton\' post=\'177344\' date=\'Feb 7 2008, 01:02 PM\']
He admits to stealing from his coworkers and from costumers[/quote]
And yet, he does no jail time and he's monetarily rewarded for proudly admitting this before a nationwide television audience.
Did he offer the obligatory chuckle upon admitting these dirty deeds?
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: Chuck Sutton on February 07, 2008, 02:31:27 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'177349\' date=\'Feb 7 2008, 01:56 PM\']
[quote name=\'Chuck Sutton\' post=\'177344\' date=\'Feb 7 2008, 01:02 PM\']
He admits to stealing from his coworkers and from costumers[/quote]
And yet, he does no jail time and he's monetarily rewarded for proudly admitting this before a nationwide television audience.
[/quote]


Not really becuase he lost everything for being "caught" lying about stuffing his underwear
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: TLEberle on February 07, 2008, 09:38:06 PM
[quote name=\'Chuck Sutton\' post=\'177344\' date=\'Feb 7 2008, 10:02 AM\']Last night was weird.

He admits to stealing from his coworkers and from costumers  but lies about stuffing his underwear??

If he still worked as a waiter, he is certain to be fired.  It can't be good for business to have someone who admitted to comitting credit card fruad in your restaurant.[/quote]It's not as much "admitting to past sins" as it is predicting the results of a polygraph examination with salacious results. If I can keep my heart rate level while saying "I am Elmer Fudd, I own a mansion and a yacht," then the machine will record that as true. If I say "My name is Travis Eberle and I'm a freedom loving Libertarian" while cooking in my own marinade, then it'll come up as a "lie."

[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'177285\' date=\'Feb 6 2008, 09:22 AM\']Last night on "Chelsea Lately," Walberg said that it is difficult at times for him to look in the contestants' eyes and read some of the questions he has to read.  He then said, "but then I remind myself that I have to put the kids through private school."[/quote]As much as I dislike the premise (and that's a fairly deep well) I like watching Mark work more. And the man looked to be in actual pain as he was reading some of the more intrusive questions.
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: GrandMasterGalvatron on February 08, 2008, 10:00:35 PM
Bah...didn't even watch it this week, but the "drama" seems totally half baked.  You'd have thought the one guy last week would have been arrested or something.  I mean come on, smuggling? Isn't that illegal?
Title: Article about 'Moment of Truth' and effects on employment
Post by: TLEberle on February 09, 2008, 02:44:55 AM
[quote name=\'GrandMasterGalvatron\' post=\'177427\' date=\'Feb 8 2008, 07:00 PM\']Bah...didn't even watch it this week, but the "drama" seems totally half baked.  You'd have thought the one guy last week would have been arrested or something.  I mean come on, smuggling? Isn't that illegal?[/quote]It's possible that the statute of limitations expired, or that it was something (relatively) innocuous like bringing certain fruits into Canada.

/Personally, I doubt it was innocuous, or else they wouldn't have asked. But you never know.