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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: cmjb13 on January 14, 2008, 09:56:07 AM
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There have been discussions about bringing Barker back for occasional CBS specials hosting a clip show. This brings up a good argument.
Do you bring him back thus relying on the past and showing viewers that the past was better? If you bring him back and the show does good numbers, they'd probably bring him back for more. Would he overshadow Drew? Not to mention the various comparisons to Drew's current work. I'd like to think the idea was considered with the eventual goal of it happening.
Your thoughts?
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'174802\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 09:56 AM\']Do you bring him back thus relying on the past and showing viewers that the past was better? [/quote]
You do realize that's not a universally held fact of the universe, don't you?
Everybody's always going to say the past is better, and that's why there are nostalgia specials. Fans have been saying that the current SNL isn't as good as SNL from five years ago every year for the last few decades.
Aside from the fact that Barker hosting clip shows would be problematic on several levels (there just aren't that many good clips, plus...well...you'd have to deal with Barker), it's unlikely that a clip show would do anything but positively draw attention to the fact that the show is still on the air.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174806\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 10:06 AM\']
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'174802\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 09:56 AM\']Do you bring him back thus relying on the past and showing viewers that the past was better? [/quote]
You do realize that's not a universally held fact of the universe, don't you?
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No more different than than thinking that the present is better. To each his own.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'174809\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 10:52 AM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'174806\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 10:06 AM\']
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'174802\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 09:56 AM\']Do you bring him back thus relying on the past and showing viewers that the past was better? [/quote]
You do realize that's not a universally held fact of the universe, don't you?
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No more different than than thinking that the present is better.
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Exactly. That's why Matt said "not a *universally held fact*"
'T any rate, no. You don't. Clip shows, maybe. You don't bring Bill Clinton back to do the State of the Union.
/unless Hillary is elected?
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For me the scale goes like this:
1980 Barker is better than 2008 Drew is better than 2007 Barker.
If that makes any sense. Price is a lot more fun with Drew now, but Drew doesn't hold a candle to Barker in his prime. (Yet.) I don't see any reason to bring Barker back for primetime specials.
Regis back to host Super Millionaire, yes, because he was the primetime Millionaire host. If there was a primetime Price host, then it would be his/her job.
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I think as long as Drew is holding his own in terms of ratings, there's no reason to bring back Barker. Someone asked Bob during a commercial of his last show if he would come back to guest host or for a special, and Bob simply answered "I hadn't thought about it". Also, would Bob come back if he couldn't also be the executive producer? I don't think so.
Does anyone know if Drew happened to be in a situation where he'd miss a fair number of TPIR tapings due to illness or whatever, if they would get someone to guest host? (No, I don't want this to be a "who could host if Drew was temporarily unable to" thread) Is it in Drew's contract that he is the sole TPIR host? Certainly would be an opportunity for Todd Newton or Mark Steines to get a shot at the show.
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Right now, Drew's showing up for the tapings and they're back to a schedule where only a severe illness would make them consider a substitute. I don't think it's worth discussing until the time comes, if it does come.
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I think Bob should host a clip show, but only if they are clips of Drew's version. :)
Seriously, Bob is retired, why would he do a clip show?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'174819\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 09:53 AM\']
Seriously, Bob is retired, why would he do a clip show?
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Because some people are apparently still having a hard time getting over the concept of His Royal Bobness (deservedly) being run out of town.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'174802\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 09:56 AM\']
Your thoughts?
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Judas Priest on a pony!
For leventy billionth time, we'd get to hear Bob say, "She came on down and they came on out".
Pass.
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Given all the fuss that was given to Bob's retiring, I say let him stay
retired. Seeing him will only fuel more Bob/Drew comparisons. One
possibility would be on a prime-time special, to have Drew talk with
Bob on the phone. Small talk like "Hey Bob, how's your golf game?
Any new lawsuits lately?" Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'174839\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 02:57 PM\']
Given all the fuss that was given to Bob's retiring, I say let him stay
retired. Seeing him will only fuel more Bob/Drew comparisons. One
possibility would be on a prime-time special, to have Drew talk with
Bob on the phone. Small talk like "Hey Bob, how's your golf game?
Any new lawsuits lately?" Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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In case anyone else is unaware, the Invision software has had built-in word wrap since we moved here from ezBoard, and probably before then as well.
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I'm one of the biggest Bob Barker fans around (or one who openly admits it on this board), but it IS time to let go. I enjoy Drew and have no reason to compare him to Barker. Let him do his thing and let CBS prepare for any unexpected occurrences.
As for primetime, Drew will fit in very well (see 10, Power of).
The Inquisitive One
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'174812\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 11:22 AM\']I don't see any reason to bring Barker back for primetime specials.
Regis back to host Super Millionaire, yes, because he was the primetime Millionaire host. If there was a primetime Price host, then it would be his/her job.
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The Price Is Right Special.
The Price Is Right Salutes.
The Price Is Right $1,000,000 Spectacular.
All primetime series, and all hosted by Barker.
Not that I'm saying I think this is necessarily a good idea -- I'm just pointing out that this particular argument doesn't hold up too well.
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'174814\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 11:54 AM\']Does anyone know if Drew happened to be in a situation where he'd miss a fair number of TPIR tapings due to illness or whatever, if they would get someone to guest host? [/quote]
Drew already missed a few tapings in late October due to illness. Granted, it was just a few tapings, and IIRC they made up the episodes by adding some extra tape dates. Should Drew come down with a severe illness that would cause him to miss multiple weeks of shows, I don't see why a guest host couldn't step in.
Many hosts have had subs for some weeks due to illness (Ludden, Barker?), but is this a forgotten practice?
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[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' post=\'174888\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 07:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'174814\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 11:54 AM\']Does anyone know if Drew happened to be in a situation where he'd miss a fair number of TPIR tapings due to illness or whatever, if they would get someone to guest host? [/quote]
Drew already missed a few tapings in late October due to illness. Granted, it was just a few tapings, and IIRC they made up the episodes by adding some extra tape dates. Should Drew come down with a severe illness that would cause him to miss multiple weeks of shows, I don't see why a guest host couldn't step in.
Many hosts have had subs for some weeks due to illness (Ludden, Barker?), but is this a forgotten practice?
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The only glaring problem that I see with that they would have to learn (x times 6) games (where x = number of shows getting a sub)...very hard to do, unlike when Dennis did the show in '74, because he already knew the games.
If they abosolutely had to go with someone whose last name wasn't Barker, I'd say Doug Davidson, since he's had experience hosting several of the show's games (yes I do realize it was 14 yrs ago).
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[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' post=\'174888\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 07:28 PM\']Drew already missed a few tapings in late October due to illness. Granted, it was just a few tapings, and IIRC they made up the episodes by adding some extra tape dates.[/quote]
Actually, it was the other way around -- they added some tapedates, and then Drew got sick during them.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'174889\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 06:34 PM\']
[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' post=\'174888\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 07:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'174814\' date=\'Jan 14 2008, 11:54 AM\']Does anyone know if Drew happened to be in a situation where he'd miss a fair number of TPIR tapings due to illness or whatever, if they would get someone to guest host? [/quote]
Drew already missed a few tapings in late October due to illness. Granted, it was just a few tapings, and IIRC they made up the episodes by adding some extra tape dates. Should Drew come down with a severe illness that would cause him to miss multiple weeks of shows, I don't see why a guest host couldn't step in.
Many hosts have had subs for some weeks due to illness (Ludden, Barker?), but is this a forgotten practice?
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The only glaring problem that I see with that they would have to learn (x times 6) games (where x = number of shows getting a sub)...very hard to do, unlike when Dennis did the show in '74, because he already knew the games.[/quote]
His limited repertoire of games. The only game he did on those shows, IIRC, that he didn't do on the syndicated show was Hi-Lo. Otherwise, it was just Any Number/Five Price Tags/Double Prices/Bonus Game/Clock Game/Most Expensive/Grocery Game. (Over the course of his run, the only later games they added were Lucky Seven and Shell Game--once again, IIRC.)
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Oh, good God. He is retired. Let him stay retired. Let's all move on with our lives.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'175014\' date=\'Jan 15 2008, 05:48 PM\'][James's] limited repertoire of games. The only game he did on those shows, IIRC, that he didn't do on the syndicated show was Hi-Lo. Otherwise, it was just Any Number/Five Price Tags/Double Prices/Bonus Game/Clock Game/Most Expensive/Grocery Game. (Over the course of his run, the only later games they added were Lucky Seven and Shell Game--once again, IIRC.)
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You rang? ;-)
The games used in the first season were Any Number, Bonus Game, Double Prices, Grocery Game, Clock Game, Double Bullseye (which, based on people's recollections and on what isn't accounted for in the show's stats, was probably played twice), Five Price Tags, Most Expensive, and Range Game.
In the second season, they added Lucky Seven and removed Double Prices and Most Expensive; in the third, they added Shell Game and Money Game, reinstated Most Expensive, and played Double Prices a single time; in the fourth, they added 1 Right Price and Race Game; and in the fifth, they added Cliff Hangers, Danger Price, 3 Strikes, Dice Game, and Hurdles.