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Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: Gus on November 07, 2007, 09:40:05 PM
I believe I read that the soap operas have enough scripts to last a few months yet.

If the strike goes long enough, might that mean the (likely temporary) return of daytime network game shows?
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: chris319 on November 07, 2007, 09:50:14 PM
Extremely doubtful. The daytime game shows that are on now are doing poorly and the networks don't develop game shows any more.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: Joe Mello on November 07, 2007, 10:36:21 PM
But what happens if the strike does go on long enough to hinder the soaps and such?

I'm hoping for the WCS in June, personally.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: clemon79 on November 07, 2007, 11:12:20 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'169050\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 07:36 PM\']
But what happens if the strike does go on long enough to hinder the soaps and such?
[/quote]
They will air repeats. It will be spun as "Classic Insert Soap Name Here."

Why is this such a difficult concept to grok? We have three networks with YEARS of material in their vaults. Why are they gonna spend money to make new stuff in an emergency?
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: Joe Mello on November 07, 2007, 11:17:40 PM
As long as there is hope......

So this will be true for the syndicated stuff as well?
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: clemon79 on November 07, 2007, 11:37:59 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'169054\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 08:17 PM\']
As long as there is hope......
[/quote]
There isn't. You're deluding yourself if you think there is.
Quote
So this will be true for the syndicated stuff as well?
Stop. Please. Just. Stop.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: Kevin Prather on November 07, 2007, 11:43:47 PM
here are the game shows i think should be brought back while the strike is happening bullseye, pyramid, password, classic concentration, hot potato, chain reaction, pitfall, hit man, press your luck, daytime wheel of fortune and they should bring back chuck wollery and susan stafford and bring back the shopping and the 175$ space and the ceramic dalmation, also match game 70s, not the 90s version because it wasnt as good as the 70s version so it should be the 70s version ok thats what i want to see.

/just my opinion!
//don't like it, you're a jerk and an idiot.
///The above was satire.
////Please don't send me to the IB.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: tpirfan28 on November 08, 2007, 08:56:09 AM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'169056\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 11:43 PM\']
classic concentration
[/quote]
I seriously thought about NBC doing this...but then I remembered they'd just add another three hours to Today.

[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'169056\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 11:43 PM\']
chain reaction
[/quote]
If Dylan Lane were to host, TV=OFF is a better option.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: weaklink75 on November 09, 2007, 08:42:49 PM
Well here's what I know of for game/reality competition shows the nets have ready:

NBC:

-Deal or No Deal

-American Gladiators

-A few eps of 1 vs 100 have been taped, but I think it's a WGA show

-ditto for Singing Bee- a few eps taped, but again, I think it's under the WGA

-The Biggest Loser

-Celebrity Apprentice

(NBC is probably going to be the most hurt, as they really don't have a lot of other backup material)

FOX
-American Idol

-Nothing But the Truth

-Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader?

-I'm not sure if Don't forget the Lyrics is a WGA show or not

(even with the 24 postponement, it's probably in the best shape since American Idol can fill a lot of holes)

ABC

-DWTS (they've been adlibbing)

-Duel

-The Bachelor

(about in the same boat as NBC is)

CBS

-Survivor (rumored to be All-Stars from the seasons after the last All-Star Edition)

-Million Dollar Password

-Big Brother (they're looking an eye towards an early February start-and not a celeb edition that's been rumored- this is per their casting director)

-I wouldn't be at all shocked if they do some more TPIR MDS specials-it could also introdouce a lot more people ot Carey's style...

(since procedurals rerun well-CBS is probably in the best shape)


CW

-America's Next Top Model

-Beauty and the Geek

-Farmer Takes a Wife

-Crowned (mother/daughter multi-week beauty pagent)

-Search for the next Pussycat Doll

(CW has been a wreck all season, so who knows what this would do..)
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: rigsby on November 09, 2007, 08:55:42 PM
[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'169245\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 07:42 PM\']
(CW has been a wreck all season, so who knows what this would do..)
[/quote]

Attempts to contact the CW's fan base (to find out what this would do) were not successful, as she had gone to bed.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: tvwxman on November 09, 2007, 09:24:04 PM
[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'169245\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 08:42 PM\']
(CW has been a wreck all season, so who knows what this would do..)
[/quote]
You want a wreck? Three Words:

My Network TV
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: BrandonFG on November 09, 2007, 09:34:54 PM
[quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'169248\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 08:55 PM\']
Attempts to contact the CW's fan base (to find out what this would do) were not successful, as she had gone to bed.
[/quote]
I lol'd.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: uncamark on November 13, 2007, 01:15:31 PM
[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'169245\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 07:42 PM\']
FOX
-American Idol

-Nothing But the Truth

-Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader?

-I'm not sure if Don't forget the Lyrics is a WGA show or not[/quote]

It isn't.

You can add "Hell's Kitchen" coming back in the spring and this "When Women Ruled the World" or something like that.

Also, "Nothing"'s been renamed "Your Moment of Truth."

At NBC, you can add "Amne$ia" with your host Denny Miller.

And at ABC you can add "Dance Wars:  Bruno v. Carrie Ann," which is an Americanization of the BBC's "DanceX" and a spinoff from "DWTS/SCD."  Not to mention "National Bingo Night" next month.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: weaklink75 on November 13, 2007, 01:50:41 PM
I'm not sure if "When Women Ruled the World" is competitive reality or not (if it's more like "Real World"  than "Survivor"), so I didn't count it in the list....


Buzzerblog is saying Duel is gonna be shown as a week-long stunt in mid-December...I think out of all the new shows, Duel has the most interesting format to me.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: itiparanoid13 on November 13, 2007, 02:36:12 PM
I haven't heard or read a single thing about NBN recently which is leaving me to believe that ABC rightly ditched it for Duel.  I can only hope.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: clemon79 on November 13, 2007, 04:03:43 PM
[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'169408\' date=\'Nov 13 2007, 11:36 AM\']
I haven't heard or read a single thing about NBN recently which is leaving me to believe that ABC rightly ditched it for Duel.  I can only hope.
[/quote]
With a comment like that, I'll be amused as hell if Duel is a huge flop.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: tpirfan28 on November 13, 2007, 04:08:45 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if NBN gets launched very quickly if the strikes lasts too long.

Now here's a question for you with more TV knowledge than me...ESPN has NBA games every Wednesday and Friday.  Since they now have this whole "ESPN on ABC" deal, could they shift games over to ABC to fill voids?  Or are contracts specific to ESPN and ABC individually?
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: clemon79 on November 13, 2007, 05:00:08 PM
There are usually separate contracts for cable and network deals for sports, so I'm guessing that The Mouse can't swap a game from their cable entity to their network one without getting permission from the league.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: TLEberle on November 14, 2007, 12:11:38 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'169417\' date=\'Nov 13 2007, 01:03 PM\'][quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'169408\' date=\'Nov 13 2007, 11:36 AM\']I haven't heard or read a single thing about NBN recently which is leaving me to believe that ABC rightly ditched it for Duel.  I can only hope.[/quote]With a comment like that, I'll be amused as hell if Duel is a huge flop.[/quote]Here's my understanding of the rules for Duel:

Players have ten chips to place next to the four answers to a question. Chips next to wrong answers are removed, chips next to right answers are refunded (they may be multiplied, that part wasn't made clear.) If you don't have a chip next to the right answer, you're out of the game.

At least Caesar's Challenge had the slot machine and the chrome. This is just People Answering Questions. There must be something I'm missing.

/And yet, PokerFace sits on the bench, waiting for the coach to put him in.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: colonial on November 14, 2007, 08:59:06 AM
[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'169408\' date=\'Nov 13 2007, 02:36 PM\']
I haven't heard or read a single thing about NBN recently which is leaving me to believe that ABC rightly ditched it for Duel.  I can only hope.
[/quote]

According to this Futon Critic article, Duel is actually taking NBN's week-long stunt slot.  NBN may return sometime next year...

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7496 (http://\"http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7496\")
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: tvmitch on November 14, 2007, 09:36:31 AM
Here is a TV Squad article (http://\"http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/11/14/more-reality-television-planned-as-wga-strike-continues/\") that lists all the "Plan B" shows for the WGA strike. Nothing we don't know here, but it sums up all the network options well.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: Unrealtor on November 14, 2007, 01:55:56 PM
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'169487\' date=\'Nov 14 2007, 08:36 AM\']
Here is a TV Squad article (http://\"http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/11/14/more-reality-television-planned-as-wga-strike-continues/\") that lists all the "Plan B" shows for the WGA strike. Nothing we don't know here, but it sums up all the network options well.
[/quote]

One thing missing there that I expected to find was more primetime editions of TPIR. It would seem like something easy (and relatively cheap) to produce, and make a natural pair with Po10, with Drew's obligatory jokes about doing one show in NYC and one from "CBS Television City in HOOOOOOOLYWOOD!" (as Rich Fields puts it.)

While I'm thinking about it, this thread seems like a good place to ask: Aren't Jeopardy's writers WGA? If so, does anybody know what the plan is when they run out of new game material?
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: Mike Tennant on November 14, 2007, 02:38:20 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'169401\' date=\'Nov 13 2007, 01:15 PM\'][quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'169245\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 07:42 PM\']-Nothing But the Truth[/quote]Also, "Nothing"'s been renamed "Your Moment of Truth."[/quote]Apparently, naming your show Nothing But the Truth practically guarantees its name will change very early in its run.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: uncamark on November 14, 2007, 02:41:52 PM
[quote name=\'Unrealtor\' post=\'169520\' date=\'Nov 14 2007, 12:55 PM\']
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'169487\' date=\'Nov 14 2007, 08:36 AM\']
Here is a TV Squad article (http://\"http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/11/14/more-reality-television-planned-as-wga-strike-continues/\") that lists all the "Plan B" shows for the WGA strike. Nothing we don't know here, but it sums up all the network options well.
[/quote]

One thing missing there that I expected to find was more primetime editions of TPIR. It would seem like something easy (and relatively cheap) to produce, and make a natural pair with Po10, with Drew's obligatory jokes about doing one show in NYC and one from "CBS Television City in HOOOOOOOLYWOOD!" (as Rich Fields puts it.)

While I'm thinking about it, this thread seems like a good place to ask: Aren't Jeopardy's writers WGA? If so, does anybody know what the plan is when they run out of new game material?
[/quote]

Well, when you've been on 23 years, you've got all that material, most of it timeless enough that it could be reused and no one would know the difference.  Not even the geeks, since GSN isn't rerunning 80s shows these days.  (Yes, "J!"'s writers are union.)

Just for pickiness, Rich never says "Television City."  Ever since 33 was "renamed," the opening says "From the Bob Barker Studio at CBS in Hollywood..."  From the fact that Goodson shows barely included the "Television City in Hollywood" tag, I suspect that Goodson was against using it and used his clout to avoid it.  One week early in "TPIR"'s run had Johnny O saying in the opening "A fortune in fabulous prizes could go to these people here at Television City in Hollywood..." and "Feud" had Gene add TV City to the standard signoff, but that's about it.  No other Goodson show had the TV City tag in announcer's copy.
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: JasonA1 on November 14, 2007, 04:21:10 PM
"Television City" made its way into one of the variations of the "Tattle Tales" opening when it came back in '82.

-Jason
Title: Quick thought/question about the writers strike.
Post by: clemon79 on November 14, 2007, 06:10:19 PM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'169539\' date=\'Nov 14 2007, 01:21 PM\']
"Television City" made its way into one of the variations of the "Tattle Tales" opening when it came back in '82.
[/quote]
Places, plz.