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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: toetyper on November 06, 2007, 09:36:51 AM
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i havent heard anything
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I was wondering too how the strike affected games...
- I don't think TPIR is affected
- Temptation probably is...but it could be an improvement (ducks)
- Wheel, Millionaire, J!, and Crosswords I don't know about
NBC did a piece about the strike, and said games would be one of the first affected (right up there with the late nights and soaps) and showed Deal...I would think Deal would be completely immune since there is no writing needed.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'168883\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 08:47 AM\']
- Temptation probably is...but it could be an improvement (ducks)
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You mean they paid someone to come up with lots o' love?
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Well, considering we've all heard about how far ahead Crosswords and Temptation taped, I'd say they probably *won't* be affected, at least unless the strike goes on for months and months.
TPiR, I don't know about--but *somebody* has to write Rich's copy. Is that person WGA-affiliated?
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Unless the mere planning of game shows comes under the jurisdiction of the WGA, I don't think game shows such as TPIR and Deal would be affected, though shows that use a quiz-format, such as Jeopardy, Millionaire and, of course, Temptation, might.
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[quote name=\'rugrats1\' post=\'168889\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 10:42 AM\']
Unless the mere planning of game shows comes under the jurisdiction of the WGA, I don't think game shows such as TPIR and Deal would be affected, though shows that use a quiz-format, such as Jeopardy, Millionaire and, of course, Temptation, might.[/quote]
You're confusing "writing" with "question writing." There are writers on just about every show you can imagine. As Clay said in the post just above yours, Rich Fields doesn't make up what he's going to say. A writer writes it for him to say. Whether those people are union writers is a different issue, but even though a game show might not have Q&A, it still has writers.
As far as question writers go, a month or so ago, before the strike even started, union writers who weren't getting union treatment walked off of Temptation. That show continued to move forward with non-union writers. They may be done with the season by now, but in any case, they're not affected. I'm pretty sure Jeopardy writers are members of the union. I don't know about Millionaire or Crosswords, but I know the producers' goal is to save money wherever possible, so especially with a new show like Crosswords, my guess is that they're non-union.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'168888\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 10:42 AM\']
TPiR, I don't know about--but *somebody* has to write Rich's copy. Is that person WGA-affiliated?
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How hard could it possibly be for someone else to write "eat cookies for a tasty treat"?
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[quote name=\'cool245\' post=\'168893\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 11:26 AM\']
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'168888\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 10:42 AM\']
TPiR, I don't know about--but *somebody* has to write Rich's copy. Is that person WGA-affiliated?
[/quote]How hard could it possibly be for someone else to write "eat cookies for a tasty treat"?[/quote]
In the first place, it doesn't mater, it's still somebody's job.
In the second place, you'd be surprised how much of that stuff actually has to be done. It's time consuming, no matter how simple YOU think it might be.
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Screw the union, I'll write the prize plugs for TPIR. Where do I apply? :)
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"WWTBAM" is union. "DOND" isn't--neither is "...5th Grader?" or "Lyrics," as far as I can tell. "Singing Bee" is. "1v100" is. "PO10" isn't.
In general, whenever you see on network television the "written by" credit, they're union. Cable and syndication, not so much, but if the show's produced by one of the big corporations, "written by" generally means "WGA." Adam Sandler's credit on "TPIR" is "editorial consultant"--the writers on "PO10," which include a "WWTBAM" writer, are credited as "game producers."
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I always thought descriptions for prizes/grocery products are kept in a database, and the necessary text cut & pasted in to the copy each time that item is offered (excluding things such as cars with various options and other prizes whose descriptions might change).
Is this generally how it's done?
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[quote name=\'DJDustman\' post=\'168899\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 12:00 PM\']
Screw the union, I'll write the prize plugs for TPIR. Where do I apply? :)
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I'll be yer assistant....and I start right now. :)
(from the script):
RICH: And here's the STAR of The Price is Right, "Drew Carey"
(later):
RICH: It's....a NEW CAR!
/emphasis mine
//still wouldn't matter, but worth a try
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Syndicated WWTBAM is done taping this week for the season, so I would imagine all the remaining questions were written before the strike started.
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Specifically for TPIR announcing, of course someone had to write that.... but hasn't most of it already been written? It's not like someone has to write "Here it comes! Television's most exciting hour..." over again for each show, and the cookies will still be "a tasty treat" next week; even if this did affect them, as far as I can see they'd just have to stick to products they already use, or that are sponsored by someone supplying their own words. The showcases, now... but it seems like something that could be worked around much better than on another show.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'168892\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 12:26 PM\']
I don't know about Millionaire or Crosswords, but I know the producers' goal is to save money wherever possible, so especially with a new show like Crosswords, my guess is that they're non-union.
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Didn't I read that the crossword clues (and the whole freakin' puzzleboard) were done by the same person or persons who create the daily USA Today puzzles?
If that's the case, they may be union, but not in the WGA union.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'168926\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 01:13 PM\']
Didn't I read that the crossword clues (and the whole freakin' puzzleboard) were done by the same person or persons who create the daily USA Today puzzles?
[/quote]They're edited by Timothy Parker, yes, but that doesn't mean he creates them, it means he oversees other people's work and ensures that it is up to USA Today's high standards.
Also, cruciverbalism is generally a freelance occupation. I doubt there is any union involved.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'168928\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 03:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'168926\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 01:13 PM\']
Didn't I read that the crossword clues (and the whole freakin' puzzleboard) were done by the same person or persons who create the daily USA Today puzzles?
[/quote]They're edited by Timothy Parker, yes, but that doesn't mean he creates them, it means he oversees other people's work and ensures that it is up to USA Today's high standards.
Also, cruciverbalism is generally a freelance occupation. I doubt there is any union involved.
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"the million dollar password is... 'cruciverbalism' "
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'168930\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 02:12 PM\']
"the million dollar password is... 'cruciverbalism' "
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Does it play like the Cashword?
"Crossword."
"Construction."
"Pastime."
/as always, one "M"
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'168903\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 11:17 AM\']Adam Sandler's credit on "TPIR" is "editorial consultant"[/quote]
Is that who puts the showcases together? My wife was asking the same question in the OP, and I suggested that that person might belong to the WGA.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'168936\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 07:37 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'168903\' date=\'Nov 6 2007, 11:17 AM\']Adam Sandler's credit on "TPIR" is "editorial consultant"[/quote]
Is that who puts the showcases together? My wife was asking the same question in the OP, and I suggested that that person might belong to the WGA.
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Him and Stan Blits, generally. Neither will be affected by the strike.
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Writers Guild or not, there has to be better copy word choice than "Gelatin dessert is easy to make and a tasty dessert" when describing a box of Jell-o.
5 cents of every DVD sale or download for that?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'168969\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 07:13 AM\']
Writers Guild or not, there has to be better copy word choice than "Gelatin dessert is easy to make and a tasty dessert" when describing a box of Jell-o.
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"Gelatin dessert provides jiggly goodness as the perfect end to a delicious meal."
/I could write this shiat
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'168976\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 10:48 AM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'168969\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 07:13 AM\']
Writers Guild or not, there has to be better copy word choice than "Gelatin dessert is easy to make and a tasty dessert" when describing a box of Jell-o.
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"Gelatin dessert provides jiggly goodness as the perfect end to a delicious meal."[/quote]
Men like to see it bounce up and down--it's tasty, lively gelatin dessert.
And to keep it clean:
Put fresh or canned fruit in gelatin dessert to make salads that will make your kids gag.
Well, personal experience on my part.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'168981\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 12:32 PM\']
Men like to see it bounce up and down--it's tasty, lively gelatin dessert.[/quote]
Damn, that actually sounds like something off Scrabble.
/Yes, I know that wasn't the point.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'168981\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 09:32 AM\']
Put fresh or canned fruit in gelatin dessert to make salads that will make your kids gag.
Well, personal experience on my part.
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It's all about the texture, man. Apples and mandarin oranges are fine. Canned peaches and pears are tolerable. Marshmallows (not a fruit, I realize) and bananas are NEVER fine. It wants something crisp.
/was served a lot of Jell-O when he was a kid
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'169007\' date=\'Nov 7 2007, 02:50 PM\']
/was served a lot of Jell-O when he was a kid
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Did you ever have this (http://\"http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,1743,149183-243201,00.html\") as a kid? My crazy aunt from Michigan made it all the time and it looked absolutely dreadful.
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Trying to remember if Mom ever made any of the more, erm, stratified Jell-Os. I don't remember it ever being cloudy. Usually she just picked a flavor (usually lime, occasionally peach or strawberry) and a single fruit to add and called it good. Lime with pears or apples was VERY common.
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[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'169067\' date=\'Nov 8 2007, 09:01 AM\'] Did you ever have this (http://\"http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,1743,149183-243201,00.html\") as a kid? My crazy aunt from Michigan made it all the time and it looked absolutely dreadful. [/quote]
I myself have had a variant of it - didn't have the celery, and was kept more on the sugary side. My aunt used to make it all the time. Usually turned out quite good. Exception to the rule, though.
/Keep it simple