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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Matt Ottinger on October 08, 2007, 02:38:28 PM
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Drew's not-really-new Price Is Right is the subject of today's cover story in the Life section of USA TODAY.
Yes, it's online (http://\"http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/celebwatch/celebwatch.htm?loc=interstitialskip\") for those of you who are averse to actual printed material. Lots of stuff we've already talked about, but a few interesting tidbits. Among the things I didn't know:
Bob Barker never had his own dedicated dressing room. He used the same one that Bill Maher and Y&R actresses used. Carey will have his own (it's not finished yet).
Carey has a 17-year-old son.
Carey's not interested in a cute name for the models collectively, hoping instead that they gain attention as individuals. (THERE'S a change from Barker!)
Carey wants to take the show on the road, and would like more frequent celebrity visits. He's asked Kathy Kinney to play Mimi as a guest model! That'll set off the LFaT.
In short, the article portrays Carey as someone who "gets it", who's aware of the traditions and nostalgia, but also someone who's not afraid to poke fun at the inherent silliness of guessing the price of birdseed and arthritis cream.
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I liked that article...I think Drew is gonna be a good fit for the show (and the pricing game concept they're working on for Drew as stated in the article isn't far-fetched, as they've done that theme in a few of the foreign versions)..
\and if they want to do that other guest-appearance mentioned in the article, they'd better have Hope Solo with them
\\Girl got jobbed at the World Cup, and the coach should be fired
\\\Yes, I'm one of the few people who actually will watch a soccer game from beginning to end on TV...
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'165927\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 11:38 AM\']
Carey wants to take the show on the road, and would like more frequent celebrity visits. He's asked Kathy Kinney to play Mimi as a guest model! That'll set off the LFaT.
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Someone's head just asploded.
/your opinion of MIMI, please
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Carey has a 17-year-old son.
I thought the article said that Syd had a 17-year old son...but it was so strangely worded, Im probably wrong.
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'165934\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 03:12 PM\']
Carey has a 17-year-old son.
I thought the article said that Syd had a 17-year old son...but it was so strangely worded, Im probably wrong.
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That's how I read it too...I'll go back and re-read it now.
{37 simulated minutes later}
Yeah, the article implies Vinnedge has the teen son.
/What's LFaT?
//I think I got a 1060 on mine.
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'165934\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 03:12 PM\']I thought the article said that Syd had a 17-year old son...but it was so strangely worded, Im probably wrong.[/quote]
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'165938\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 03:26 PM\']
Yeah, the article implies Vinnedge has the teen son.[/quote]
OK, that's probably the better interpretation of a strangely-worded sentence. My apologies.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'165931\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 03:09 PM\']/your opinion of MIMI, please
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I smirked.
If they can have Tyra Banks on the show, how about a fairly polar opposite to Tyra Banks?
/Would be a good April 1 prank.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'165927\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 02:38 PM\']
Bob Barker never had his own dedicated dressing room.
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Bob Eubanks shared the room with Barker when he was doing "Card Sharks." In his autobiography, he tells a great story about seeing the "WGMC" sign for the first time and thinking it was stupid when somebody explained what it meant. Between tapings he pulled down the sign, hid it underneath a couch, and left. The next day, Jonathan Goodson called him in a panic because Barker wanted to know where the sign was and refused to start the TPIR taping until it was located. Eubanks' response: "What sign?"
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'165943\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 03:47 PM\']
Barker wanted to know where the sign was and refused to start the TPIR taping until it was located. [/quote]
There was a time, long, long ago, when we might have questioned the absurdity of that statement. Any more, it just seems right in character, doesn't it? All the more reason that I'm surprised he never demanded his own personal space. I've been in that building, I know there's room.
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'165943\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 12:47 PM\']
Eubanks' response: "What sign?"
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And with this, Eubanks' stock just raised about fifty points in my eyes.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'165938\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 02:26 PM\']/What's LFaT?[/quote]
"Loyal Friend and True" if I'm not mistaken.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'165947\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 04:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'165938\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 02:26 PM\']/What's LFaT?[/quote]
"Loyal Friend and True" if I'm not mistaken.
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Correct. Around here you've probably seen at least some LFaTs referred to as "fanb0iz."
Some of us prefer to believe that there is a difference between the two, though we concede that the behavior of some fans tends to blur the distinction. :-)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'165927\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 02:38 PM\']
Carey wants to take the show on the road, and would like more frequent celebrity visits. He's asked Kathy Kinney to play Mimi as a guest model! That'll set off the LFaT.
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Didn't the practice of celebrity visits really dwindle in the last...oh...fifteen years or so? I know of the Tyra Banks visit...was the one prior to that Ray Comb's visits in the early 90's?
Haha...Mimi as a model. I would love that.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'165948\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 01:23 PM\']
Some of us prefer to believe that there is a difference between the two, though we concede that the behavior of some fans tends to blur the distinction. :-)
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Oh, no question there's a difference. We just don't seem to see it very much around here.
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'165950\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 01:28 PM\']
Didn't the practice of celebrity visits really dwindle in the last...oh...fifteen years or so? I know of the Tyra Banks visit...was the one prior to that Ray Comb's visits in the early 90's?
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I could swear that Adam Sandler (the actor) did a walk-on to pimp Happy Gilmore.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'165954\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 03:38 PM\']
I could swear that Adam Sandler (the actor) did a walk-on to pimp Happy Gilmore.
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You're correct; it was during a Showcase IIRC.
The part of the article for me was Drew's "Punchboard's basically Plinko with slips of paper." Not to stray off-topic too much, but if PoX goes through to syndication and he hosts, he's going to rack up the frequent flier miles REAL quick. Wonder if Davies would move the set out to LA?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'165945\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 02:57 PM\']
[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'165943\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 12:47 PM\']
Eubanks' response: "What sign?"
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And with this, Eubanks' stock just raised about fifty points in my eyes.
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So he's up to 51? :-)
The trouble with having Mimi on is if they put her in front of the new set or, heaven help us, the new turntable, she'll blend in.
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[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'165974\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 05:42 PM\']
The part of the article for me was Drew's "Punchboard's basically Plinko with slips of paper."
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Actually, he didn't say "Punchboard." He said "Punch a Bunch"...or really, he tried to, but it came out "Punch a Buck." I got a kick out of that and "Barker's Bargain Bin." :-)
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I wouldn't be too quick to lay the blame for "Bin" and "Buck" at Drew's feet. Those are the sorts of things that newspapers have been known to transcribe incorrectly. (It could be Drew, of course.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'165945\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 12:57 PM\'][quote name=\'Adam Nedeff' ost='165943\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 12:47 PM\']Eubanks' response: "What sign?"[/quote]And with this, Eubanks' stock just raised about fifty points in my eyes.[/quote]I still can't stand his hosting style, but that owns. Completely and thoroughly.
If there's anything I like more than pricking the conceit of people who have egos too large for their own good, I don't know what it is.
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'165948\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 01:23 PM\'][quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'165947\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 04:13 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'165938\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 02:26 PM\']/What's LFaT?[/quote]"Loyal Friend and True" if I'm not mistaken.[/quote]Correct. Around here you've probably seen at least some LFaTs referred to as "fanb0iz."
Some of us prefer to believe that there is a difference between the two, though we concede that the behavior of some fans tends to blur the distinction. :-)[/quote]I don't see a problem with having the two subsets of fans. I know how the games are played, and I know which ones have hacks that can be employed to increase the winning percentage. But I also realize that it's still just a game show, and should be treated as such.
/And I also think it's funny to have Mimi as a guest model, or something like that.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'165947\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 04:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'165938\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 02:26 PM\']/What's LFaT?[/quote]
"Loyal Friend and True" if I'm not mistaken.
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Ahh, OK. Thanks. :-)
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'166026\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 01:05 AM\']
/And I also think it's funny to have Mimi as a guest model, or something like that.
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I wouldn't mind seeing celebrity visits within the showcases. If you don't have the time to do any of the creative 3+ minute showcases like in the old days, having surprise celebs wouldn't be such a bad idea.
/Go Tribe!!!
//To the NY Yankees Fans: Sorry!!! (Bwahahahahaaa)
///Mr. Torre, Mr. Steinbrenner would like see you in his office now!
////George Costanza as the next Manager???
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I can't believe anyone who's been in studio 33 and seen the dressing room that's been used over the decades by Jack Benny, one or both of George Burns or Gracie Allen, Ed Sullivan, Red Skelton, Carol Burnett, Mary Tyler Moore, Dennis Miller and 1,001 game show emcees would think CBS would build an annex exclusively to house Bob Barker and his gigantic ego. C'mon, that's all rental space. When it's set up for Pictionary it's Alan Thicke's dressing room. When it's set up for Now You See It it's Jack Narz'/Chuck Henry's dressing room. I hate to burst anyone's bubble but it is not hallowed ground.
From now on, anyone who refers to 33 as "The Bob Barker Studio" and is not saying it in jest is a fanb0i[/b].
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166067\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 01:47 PM\']
From now on, anyone who refers to 33 as "The Bob Barker Studio" and is not saying it in jest is a fanb0i[/b].
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Including Rich Fields?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166067\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 02:47 PM\']
I can't believe anyone who's been in studio 33 and seen the dressing room that's been used over the decades by Jack Benny, one or both of George Burns or Gracie Allen, Ed Sullivan, Red Skelton, Carol Burnett, Mary Tyler Moore, Dennis Miller and 1,001 game show emcees would think CBS would build an annex exclusively to house Bob Barker and his gigantic ego.[/quote]
And yet they're building one for Drew Carey, so if Bob had demanded one, does it seem likely they would have refused (other than on the grounds that they couldn't build one big enough for his ego)?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166067\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 02:47 PM\']
I can't believe anyone who's been in studio 33 and seen the dressing room that's been used over the decades by Jack Benny, one or both of George Burns or Gracie Allen, Ed Sullivan, Red Skelton, Carol Burnett, Mary Tyler Moore, Dennis Miller and 1,001 game show emcees would think CBS would build an annex exclusively to house Bob Barker and his gigantic ego. [/quote]
Well, the story made it clear that they're doing precisely that for Drew. So since it's clear they're capable of doing it, and Drew at least gives the appearance of being less demanding than the other guy, it's just somewhat surprising that Bob Barker and his gigantic ego hadn't successfully lobbied for it earlier.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166067\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 02:47 PM\']From now on, anyone who refers to 33 as "The Bob Barker Studio" and is not saying it in jest is a fanb0i. [/quote]
Setting aside the comments you made about the dressing room (which were reasonable), the fanb0i barb is stretching things a bit. They call it the Bob Barker Studio.
Things get names. It happens. After all, if someone wants to know where you live, do you give them latitude and longitude coordinates? No, you give them a city name or a street name.
A couple of miles from my house sits the Senator Lloyd J Bentsen parkway. They also call it US 59. Either works, and because I choose one name over the other doesn't make me a Bentsen fanb0i.
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[quote name=\'rigsby\' post=\'166068\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 12:38 PM\']
Including Rich Fields?
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We already know Fields is a Barker sycophant. He doesn't even have to speak to prove that.
[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'166071\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 12:47 PM\']
Setting aside the comments you made about the dressing room (which were reasonable), the fanb0i barb is stretching things a bit. They call it the Bob Barker Studio.[/quote]
They call it the Bob Barker Studio because someone slapped a plaque on the outside of the place proclaiming it to be so. I would hazard to guess that anyone who actually works in that industry, in that area, calls it "Studio 33".
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'166071\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 03:47 PM\']
Setting aside the comments you made about the dressing room (which were reasonable), the fanb0i barb is stretching things a bit. They call it the Bob Barker Studio.
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Cut Chris some slack. He's just trying to head off any potential effort toward the Jillian Reynolds Studio. ;-)
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'166074\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 01:04 PM\']
Cut Chris some slack. He's just trying to head off any potential effort toward the Jillian Reynolds Studio. ;-)
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Who wants to bet there is a couch over at Fox with a plaque on it?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'166073\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 03:01 PM\']
They call it the Bob Barker Studio because someone slapped a plaque on the outside of the place proclaiming it to be so.[/quote]
And I always wonder if that rankled Carol Burnett (who started using 33 five years before Barker did). It seems like in subsequent specials Burnett did in 33 since the plaque was hung that she's taken opportunities to make some jokes at Barker's expense (none of which I can remember specifically).
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'166077\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 04:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'166074\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 01:04 PM\']
Cut Chris some slack. He's just trying to head off any potential effort toward the Jillian Reynolds Studio. ;-)
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Who wants to bet there is a couch over at Fox with a plaque on it?
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That's not plaque.
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[quote name=\'bclark71\' post=\'166080\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 04:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'166077\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 04:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'166074\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 01:04 PM\']
Cut Chris some slack. He's just trying to head off any potential effort toward the Jillian Reynolds Studio. ;-)
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Who wants to bet there is a couch over at Fox with a plaque on it?
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That's not plaque.
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Winner!
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'166081\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 01:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'bclark71\' post=\'166080\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 04:52 PM\']
That's not plaque.
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Winner!
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Seconded. VERY well played. :)
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We already know Fields is a Barker sycophant.
This is a man who kissed Bob Barker. In public. In front of photographers.
They call it the Bob Barker Studio because someone slapped a plaque on the outside of the place proclaiming it to be so. I would hazard to guess that anyone who actually works in that industry, in that area, calls it "Studio 33".
They call it the Bob Barker studio because 43 had been proclaimed the William Bell studio. Barker, in his unbridled vanity, decided that 33 should likewise be named eponymously, notwithstanding the previously-named talent who had gone before him. There are VERY few other studios in Hollywood named after specific performers. Can anyone name some?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166086\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 02:38 PM\']
They call it the Bob Barker studio because 43 had been proclaimed the William Bell studio. Barker, in his unbridled vanity, decided that 33 should likewise be named eponymously,[/quote]
Was the whole thing really his idea? Seriously?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166086\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 05:38 PM\']
They call it the Bob Barker Studio because someone slapped a plaque on the outside of the place proclaiming it to be so. I would hazard to guess that anyone who actually works in that industry, in that area, calls it "Studio 33".
They call it the Bob Barker studio because 43 had been proclaimed the William Bell studio. Barker, in his unbridled vanity, decided that 33 should likewise be named eponymously, notwithstanding the previously-named talent who had gone before him. There are VERY few other studios in Hollywood named after specific performers. Can anyone name some?
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I'm not calling you out on this story, but I am curious about something:
Do we know this for a fact? Or did someone in the studio/organization/fanboizworld come up with the title for the studio? I understand that a lot of us adults don't share the same adoration for Barker that some of the kiddies do, but I'd like to know just how much of this was his ego, compared to someone else merely feeding his ego.
/World of difference in the two.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'166087\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 02:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166086\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 02:38 PM\']
They call it the Bob Barker studio because 43 had been proclaimed the William Bell studio. Barker, in his unbridled vanity, decided that 33 should likewise be named eponymously,[/quote]
Was the whole thing really his idea? Seriously?
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It sure wasn't Holly Hallstrom's.
Based on what I know of the players involved, I can't imagine otherwise. The person closest to Barker at CBS was Barbara Hunter Welsh, and I can't imagine her initiating that campaign, nor can I imagine Charles Kappelman (former head of TV City) doing so, either.
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Oh, and before everyone makes a pilgrimage to Musso and Frank's thinking it, too, is hallowed ground, fuggedaboudit. It's close to Barker's house, but the food is thoroughly unspectacular. Been there once, won't be back.
Canter's on the other hand, has become an unofficial hangout for some of us, not because the food is so spectacular (more interesting than Canter's), but because it's, um, there.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166089\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 06:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'166087\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 02:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166086\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 02:38 PM\']
They call it the Bob Barker studio because 43 had been proclaimed the William Bell studio. Barker, in his unbridled vanity, decided that 33 should likewise be named eponymously,[/quote]
Was the whole thing really his idea? Seriously?
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It sure wasn't Holly Hallstrom's.
Based on what I know of the players involved, I can't imagine otherwise. The person closest to Barker at CBS was Barbara Hunter Welsh, and I can't imagine her initiating that campaign, nor can I imagine Charles Kappelman (former head of TV City) doing so, either.
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I'm curious though why it took so long. The studio was named after Bell in 1992.
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Do we know this for a fact? Or did someone in the studio/organization/fanboizworld come up with the title for the studio? I understand that a lot of us adults don't share the same adoration for Barker that some of the kiddies do, but I'd like to know just how much of this was his ego, compared to someone else merely feeding his ego.
It is my own surmise. In days of yore, game show emcees negotiated their salaries with, and were paid by, a show's packager. Barker made so much money that his salary was negotiated with CBS (according to reports I've read). If we go with published estimates that he was making $10 million per year, plus the additional $1 million+ that it cost to tape five shows over four days (rather than six shows over three days) to accomodate his desire for a shorter workday, we have to ask ourselves this question: If he was costing CBS $11 million+ per year, why would they need to stroke his ego even further by naming a studio after him? You have to remember that CBS is run by business executives, not game show fanb0iz.
Oh, and let's not forget the zillions he cost in out-of-court settlements.
Far greater talents have roamed that lot and worked that studio.
Note to lawers: all of the above is my personal opinion.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166139\' date=\'Oct 10 2007, 12:29 PM\']
If he was costing CBS $11 million+ per year, why would they need to stroke his ego even further by naming a studio after him? You have to remember that CBS is run by business executives, not game show fanb0iz.[/quote]
Is your point that it wasn't CBS's idea to name the studio after him? That wouldn't surprise me at all. Still, egos are stroked all the time to keep the talent happy, regardless of how much money they get paid, and no matter whose idea it was, CBS did name the studio in his honor.
Is it outrageous to anyone with a sense of history that Bob Barker's name is on Studio 33 instead of a much bigger star? Of course it is. But those stars weren't on the payroll when it was time for someone's ego to be stroked. You have to remember that CBS is run by business executives, not television historians. It cost CBS $59.95 (and some vague, bemused annoyance on Carol Burnett's part) to hang a plaque on the wall and keep the old man happy for a while. Seems like money well spent.
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Speaking as an amateur television historian and amateur game show fanb0i, I plan to sue CBS for discrimination for not letting me run the place.
Besides, they can always rename the place. Look at college football stadiums. Get somebody who brings in enough money, and the former big donor's name is on the scrap heap. If Drew makes more money for CBS than Bob did, watch for the Drew Carey studio.
Sane number of letters, by the way, and they can save the R, E and A.
Just to get back to the original topic, the more I hear from Drew and the more his sense of comfort and humor grows while working on the show, the better, I think, it will get. At least, I'm looking forward to it.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166092\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 05:13 PM\']
Canter's on the other hand, has become an unofficial hangout for some of us, not because the food is so spectacular (more interesting than Canter's), but because it's, um, there.
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It's also close to Jon Brion's show at Largo. Not that this Minneapolitan has seen it in several years.
Johnny Jacobs referred to the Chuck Barris Stages in openings to (at least) the Newlywed Game. Is that simply because Chuck's the one who rented them, or did he actually have a studio?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166086\' date=\'Oct 9 2007, 04:38 PM\']
They call it the Bob Barker studio because 43 had been proclaimed the William Bell studio. Barker, in his unbridled vanity, decided that 33 should likewise be named eponymously, notwithstanding the previously-named talent who had gone before him. There are VERY few other studios in Hollywood named after specific performers. Can anyone name some?[/quote]
The only other one I've come across is the George Burns Stage (stage 1 if I recall correctly) at Hollywood Center Studios. You can see the plaque outside the stage here (http://\"http://www.hollywoodphotographs.com/detail.asp?cat=42&im=%2D1&offset=256&ID=4097\").
While not a performer specifically, there is a stage at KTLA in named for longtime newscaster Larry McCormick.
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Is your point that it wasn't CBS's idea to name the studio after him?
I think I've made that abundantly clear by now. To put it more succinctly, they didn't take the initiative in naming the studio after him.
CBS is run by business executives, not television historians.
Having been taken on the Grand Tour of the place more than once, it would surprise you how much the old-timers at TV City have a sense of the history of the place. A fair amount of TV history has been made there.
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[quote name=\'bricon\' post=\'166153\' date=\'Oct 10 2007, 02:07 PM\']
While not a performer specifically, there is a stage at KTLA in named for longtime newscaster Larry McCormick.
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They've also renamed their newsroom as the "Hal Fishman Newsroom" in the Summer of 2000, in honor of the KTLA's News at Ten newscaster Hal Fishman for serving forty years. He passed on this past July due to colon cancer. (Hal's feature (http://\"http://ktla.trb.com/extras/ktla/60th/hal.html\") in KTLA-5 CW's Celebrating 60 Years web site.)
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If RCA executives were like benevolent civic leaders, studio 1 in Burbank would have been named The Johnny Carson Studio long ago. I suppose 8H would be The Arturo Toscanini Studio. In New York we do have The Ed Sullivan Theater.
While not a performer specifically, there is a stage at KTLA in named for longtime newscaster Larry McCormick.
Weren't they going to name the newsroom after Stan Chambers until Hal Fishman threw a hissy fit and they wound up naming the newsroom after him?
And leave us not forget Lucy's El Adobe with its "Artists' Entrance" ;-)
What was the deal with the Chuck Barris stages? Flight of fancy on Chuck's part?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166156\' date=\'Oct 10 2007, 02:34 PM\']
What was the deal with the Chuck Barris stages? Flight of fancy on Chuck's part?
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His shows (late-70s/early-80s) were taped at...Metromedia? Hollywood Center? An L.A. TV studio? I always thought it was a goofy novelty, completely of the Chuckie variety.
/Damn you, GSN and your scrunched credits!!!
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'166180\' date=\'Oct 10 2007, 05:18 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166156\' date=\'Oct 10 2007, 02:34 PM\']
What was the deal with the Chuck Barris stages? Flight of fancy on Chuck's part?
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His shows (late-70s/early-80s) were taped at...Metromedia? Hollywood Center? An L.A. TV studio? I always thought it was a goofy novelty, completely of the Chuckie variety.
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Dating Game and Newlywed Game started out at KTLA in the late '70's, $1.98 Beauty Show was at NBC. The "Chuck Barris Stages" were at Television Center Studios, now known as Ren-Mar Studios. One would assume he had a dedicated lease on a stage there and ran with the name.
I know that Dating Game, Three's A Crowd and Gong Show taped at Television Center Studios at one point.
There is some neat history to the Ren-Mar lot - it was the Desilu-Cahuenga lot, home to the original "Dick Van Dyke Show", and the second home to "I Love Lucy". More on the studio can be found here (http://\"http://www.renmarstudios.com/History.html\").
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[quote name='chris319' date='Oct 10 2007, 01:34 PM' post='166156']
If RCA executives were like benevolent civic leaders, studio 1 in Burbank would have been named The Johnny Carson Studio long ago. I suppose 8H would be The Arturo Toscanini Studio. In New York we do have The Ed Sullivan Theater.
I remember reading that NBC Burbank 1 was already named The Bob Hope Theater.
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I remember reading that NBC Burbank 1 was already named The Bob Hope Theater.
Now that you remind me, I've heard stories about Hope having an ownership interest in it. Why RCA would need Bob Hope's money is an interesting question, and makes me wonder whether that saga is so much urban mythology.
Speaking of Bob Hope, they renamed Burbank airport after him posthumously. I think the idea indeed came from benevolent civic leaders and was not inspired by Hope's own vanity. The airport code remains BUR, though.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166188\' date=\'Oct 10 2007, 04:17 PM\']
Now that you remind me, I've heard stories about Hope having an ownership interest in it. Why RCA would need Bob Hope's money is an interesting question, and makes me wonder whether that saga is so much urban mythology.[/quote] The story I was told is that when NBC had overgrown the Sunset/Vine facility and was looking for a site to build a new TV complex their uber-star Bob Hope sold them the land in Burbank. Hope owned lots of Valley real eatate, including much of the property in adjacent Toluca Lake. Studio 1 was built to specifications that included input from Hope, and featured some advanced acoustical designs for the 1950s. I've told that story to so many audiences in that studio that it has already been upgraded from urban myth to probable reality ;-)
Speaking of Bob Hope, they renamed Burbank airport after him posthumously. I think the idea indeed came from benevolent civic leaders and was not inspired by Hope's own vanity. The airport code remains BUR, though.
And I'm convinced they need to have an impressionist record the PA announcements. "Hi, this is Bob Dont-park-in-the-white-zone Hope reminding you that passengers are allowed only one carry-on bag. Mine is Phyllis Diller!. But I wanna tell ya..."
Randy
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'166234\' date=\'Oct 10 2007, 10:26 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'166188\' date=\'Oct 10 2007, 04:17 PM\']
Now that you remind me, I've heard stories about Hope having an ownership interest in it. Why RCA would need Bob Hope's money is an interesting question, and makes me wonder whether that saga is so much urban mythology.[/quote] The story I was told is that when NBC had overgrown the Sunset/Vine facility and was looking for a site to build a new TV complex their uber-star Bob Hope sold them the land in Burbank. Hope owned lots of Valley real eatate, including much of the property in adjacent Toluca Lake. Studio 1 was built to specifications that included input from Hope, and featured some advanced acoustical designs for the 1950s. I've told that story to so many audiences in that studio that it has already been upgraded from urban myth to probable reality ;-)[/quote]
And Hope continued to tape his specials in Studio 1. Even though by the end of his active period they were shot without an audience, whenever he appeared on Carson to plug the special (and show outtake clips), the Carson audience was always asked to stay, they pulled out his curtain and then he came out and taped the opening monologue and his closing for his specials with the Carson audience for that night. I would imagine that hardly anyone left when they were told that Hope would do his monologue.
Of course, that reveals that when Hope looked over to his right and said, "Les?" and Les Brown and His Band of Renown would play "Thanks for the Memory" under his closing--well, the music was canned. (Unless Doc's band stuck around and Les conducted them playing the music.)
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'165934\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 03:12 PM\']
Carey has a 17-year-old son.
I thought the article said that Syd had a 17-year old son...but it was so strangely worded, Im probably wrong.
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i agree - i think they meant Syd not drew. I know Syd has an older daughter (went to the same school years ago as a friend of mine).