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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: rugrats1 on October 07, 2007, 08:47:39 PM
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According to the latest article from Variety (http://\"http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117973600.html?categoryid=14&cs=1\"), the 2008 syndicated version of "Deal or No Deal" will not only play for lower stakes, but will also feature much less models -- three of them. The other cases will be held by "civilians", in hopes that they will play in a future episode, like the British version.
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Wonderful.
Although I would have liked to see them go all the way and use 26 civilians.
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I found this more interesting than any news item about DoND.
At least two more new syndicated gameshows are in the works for 2008-09, both offshoots of network-primetime games: “The Power of 10,” from Sony Pictures TV, and “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader,” from Twentieth TV.
I'm really curious how they will do Power of 10 as to not make it seem completely cheap and keep that whole 10 theme.
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It's slowly appearing that the new syndication model for game shows is completely opposite of the original model.
Old way : 5 day a week daytime Network Success leads to one night per week nighttime syndication offer.
New way : One night per week nighttime Network Success leads to five days per week daytime syndication offer.
I'm not sure which one is better.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'165869\' date=\'Oct 7 2007, 09:29 PM\']
It's slowly appearing that the new syndication model for game shows is completely opposite of the original model.
Old way : 5 day a week daytime Network Success leads to one night per week nighttime syndication offer.
New way : One night per week nighttime Network Success leads to five days per week daytime syndication offer.
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And with the exception of Millionaire, the dailies offer lowered stakes, while the weekly syndie shows offered much more (Kennedy NTT, Dawson Feud, Fleming J!, MGPM, etc.). Then again, the contestants continued winning on the daytime shows, and could build up just as much, if not more, than the weekly contestants who appear once. Either way, I'm not complaining, but I do find it ironically humorous.
Would love to see how they're going to make a half-hour show of the two slowest game shows in primetime...assuming they will be 30 minutes.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'165870\' date=\'Oct 7 2007, 09:40 PM\']
Would love to see how they're going to make a half-hour show of the two slowest game shows in primetime...assuming they will be 30 minutes.
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I think it was mentioned that DOND will be 30 minutes.
On the same token, I envision that the syndie DOND will run much faster than the nighttime version, with less stalling.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'165868\' date=\'Oct 7 2007, 09:21 PM\']I'm really curious how they will do Power of 10 as to not make it seem completely cheap and keep that whole 10 theme.[/quote]
It's come to this: We consider one million dollars "cheap".
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'165868\' date=\'Oct 7 2007, 09:21 PM\']
I'm really curious how they will do Power of 10 as to not make it seem completely cheap and keep that whole 10 theme.
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$100-1K-10K-100K-1M, I'd wager. That'd seem to me to be just fine.
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It's come to this: We consider one million dollars "cheap".
When did I ever say that? That was implied and shouldn't have been, probably by my wording.
The easy fix for the show is to divide the money by 10. A vast majority of the winners during the summer season were $1K and $10K winners. Transfer that to the easy fix for a daytime version and you have a majority of $100 and $1K winners. Sorry, maybe I've been jaded by the new bigger money shows, but a majority of $100 and $1K winners is cheap and horribly boring.
And I don't think $1M is cheap nor is it some giant figure as it was around ten years ago because essentially everyone offers it now. It's standard to me by this point. I have no problem with it. I'll start to become horribly bored by winnings that make Crosswords seem rich.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'165879\' date=\'Oct 7 2007, 09:55 PM\']but a majority of $100 and $1K winners is cheap and horribly boring.[/quote]
$1000 in my pocket is neither cheap or boring to me.
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'165867\' date=\'Oct 7 2007, 06:01 PM\']
Although I would have liked to see them go all the way and use 26 civilians.
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Um, I'm not sure where you got the idea that it *wouldn't* work that way. The three models don't necessarily have to be case models.
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And just for extra incentive, with only 3 models & the rest civilians, why not offer a guessing game like tha Austraillian version for, say $1,000? I wouldn't mind seeing that.
As for 5th Grader?, it might work as a strip except do the ladder like this:
$50,000**
$25,000
$10,000
$7,500
$5,000
$2,500*
$1,000
$750
$500
$250
*milestone marker
**11th question = double the 10th question or $100,000
As for Po10, simply dividing everything by 10 from the prime time version works for me. Not sure if Sony's willing to pick up another one besides WoF & J!
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The easy fix for the show is to divide the money by 10. A vast majority of the winners during the summer season were $1K and $10K winners. Transfer that to the easy fix for a daytime version and you have a majority of $100 and $1K winners. Sorry, maybe I've been jaded by the new bigger money shows, but a majority of $100 and $1K winners is cheap and horribly boring.
Some extras that we've talked about on PoX could be added to make the game a bit more easily to swallow prize-wise...extra cash for a correct guess, etc.
Something tells me that we won't see cheap prize budgets if the correct people are behind the show. I don't see any of the major networks allowing their prime shows to be cheapened to T$ levels.
/Right on the nose! You've won 3 nights in beautiful...downtown...Encino! Tell 'em about it, Johnny!
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'165894\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 07:41 AM\']
/Right on the nose! You've won 3 nights in beautiful...downtown...Encino! Tell 'em about it, Johnny!
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I believe his name is Ed.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'165932\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 12:10 PM\']
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'165894\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 07:41 AM\']
/Right on the nose! You've won 3 nights in beautiful...downtown...Encino! Tell 'em about it, Johnny!
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I believe his name is Ed.
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I don't know what to say to this.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'165933\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 03:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'165894\' date=\'Oct 8 2007, 07:41 AM\']
/Right on the nose! You've won 3 nights in beautiful...downtown...Encino! Tell 'em about it, Johnny!
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I don't know what to say to this.
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Other than that Burbank's priced out of their league?
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Need I point out that the Variety writer cheated Howie out of four models.
The Hollywood Reporter article:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/conten...1065e6093c47523 (http://\"http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i23389b356d961fd2b1065e6093c47523\")
Just says that the future contestants will stand with the models and doesn't say how many. Now there may be 22 cases in the syndicated version, but Mr. Dempsey didn't indicate that.
Other suggestions on speeding up:
If you're going to have to open with the models' walk (and if you're having civilians in the group, that may be dangerous), do it within ten seconds of start--run the animation, when the circle goes through, have Howie say "Ladies, please," and do the walk. When that ends, have him do the "hi, ladies--hi, Howie" bit and then start the show.
Have the contestant already up there on stage--the Million Dollar Mission thing has revealed that the contestants are not in the audience during the show, since if they were, they would know all about the whole Million Dollar Mission and not be so surprised when Howie tells them (yeah, I know some of you think that's staged, anyway, but still...)
Howie intros the peanut gallery wherever you want to have it without chatting with them. (You'd say get rid of them completely, but it's not going to happen.)
At this point, he does not need to explain the Banker's function--just go right to the phone ringing and "here's the Banker." He does need to say frequently that the case packing is random, but not every day--and he doesn't need to make $250,000 a big deal every day.
And since they won't be straddling, they won't need to use my suggestion of having Howie do the recap instead of going to Joe Cipriano and the tape package (which I assume no one sees in the studio anyway).
And most importantly--cut down the pause between "open the case" and the case opening. Those pauses get so ridiculous...
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It's come to this: We consider one million dollars "cheap".
We've become a bit desensitized to it, haven't we?
For the record, I still think it should be the top prize offered on television.
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Just got word from NBC that there will be 22 cases.
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If it is 22 case, it's looking like it will be the UK version of openings probably (5-3-3-3-3-3)...I also heard 3 models, and I'm trying to figure how they'll work into the show (a Banker's Model probably is one, but what about the other two?)
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'165879\' date=\'Oct 7 2007, 09:55 PM\']
It's come to this: We consider one million dollars "cheap".
The easy fix for the show is to divide the money by 10. A vast majority of the winners during the summer season were $1K and $10K winners. Transfer that to the easy fix for a daytime version and you have a majority of $100 and $1K winners. Sorry, maybe I've been jaded by the new bigger money shows, but a majority of $100 and $1K winners is cheap and horribly boring.
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I dunno...I think more contestants would walk at $10k instead of going for $100k...and I don't think it's that bad to see a rash of 'non-big-winning' contestants if there exists a possibility of a contestant winning a large sum like 100k or even a million if they get lucky.