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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: sotcfan2004 on September 24, 2007, 09:08:16 PM
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Portland, OR's KPDX 49, the local MyNetworkTV, has ceased airing Temptation weekdays at 9am in favor of such quality infomercials as "Build Your Wealth" and "The Ab-Lounger". I first noticed this via DirecTV on-screen listings and subsequently confirmed it with Barbara Levey, the station's programming manager. Reason given: piss-poor ratings. The timeslot previously held back-to-back eps of Cheaters, so who knows what the future holds.
I had a feeling this would happen sooner or later, just wasn't banking on sooner.
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"Temptation" shot itself in the foot right off the bat by having most of its stations air the show on the very low-rated MyNetworkTV affiliates. They also didn't help themselves with the flawed game format.
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I would have said after the November Sweeps- but still, that's a real itchy trigger finger....and Portland's a decent-sized market too..
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[quote name=\'sotcfan2004\' post=\'164711\' date=\'Sep 24 2007, 09:08 PM\']
Portland, OR's KPDX 49, the local MyNetworkTV, has ceased airing Temptation weekdays at 9am in favor of such quality infomercials as "Build Your Wealth" and "The Ab-Lounger".
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Nice to know they are replacing it with similar programming. :)
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[quote name=\'sotcfan2004\' post=\'164711\' date=\'Sep 24 2007, 06:08 PM\']
Portland, OR's KPDX 49, the local MyNetworkTV, has ceased airing Temptation weekdays at 9am in favor of such quality infomercials as "Build Your Wealth" and "The Ab-Lounger". I first noticed this via DirecTV on-screen listings and subsequently confirmed it with Barbara Levey, the station's programming manager. Reason given: piss-poor ratings. The timeslot previously held back-to-back eps of Cheaters, so who knows what the future holds.
I had a feeling this would happen sooner or later, just wasn't banking on sooner.
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Damn; I never even got to see a single episode. Wait a minute, I guess that's not a bad thing... :)
Interestingly, KPDX is one of only two MyNetworkTV affiliates to not use the "My" branding or logo; they call themselves "PDX 49".
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On a GS-related note, game show lovin' Portlanders will be happy to know that KOIN 6 (local CBS aff.) has reverted Family Feud to its original back-to-back time slot of 9am-10am from the insomniac slot of 2:07am. Truth be told, if I had to choose between the Feud and Temptation, John O'Hurley would get my vote any day of the week.
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[quote name=\'sotcfan2004\' post=\'164718\' date=\'Sep 24 2007, 09:37 PM\']
Truth be told, if I had to choose between the Feud and Temptation, John O'Hurley would get my vote any day of the week.
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Oh, but to hear O'Hurley selling Rossi's Godiva chocolates and bathrobes. Or, "what if I gave you this crisp $100 bill?" in his best J. Peterman voice. That would have been good.
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Interestingly, KPDX is one of only two MyNetworkTV affiliates to not use the "My" branding or logo; they call themselves "PDX 49".
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Is the other one OK43 in Oklahoma City? There was to be more stations that not wanting to associate themselves with the "MY."
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'164714\' date=\'Sep 24 2007, 10:20 PM\']
[quote name=\'sotcfan2004\' post=\'164711\' date=\'Sep 24 2007, 09:08 PM\']
Portland, OR's KPDX 49, the local MyNetworkTV, has ceased airing Temptation weekdays at 9am in favor of such quality infomercials as "Build Your Wealth" and "The Ab-Lounger".
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Nice to know they are replacing it with similar programming. :)
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It'd be interesting to see what kind of ratings those pull in (for comparison)
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This is a bit shocking...and the worst part is that the early cancellations/time slot moves, if they happen, will be in the larger markets capable of analyzing overnight ratings.
But then again, this is the era when networks cancel primetime shows after one or two low-rated airings on a routine basis, so maybe it's not completely unexpected.
/Just deleted about 10 hours of Temptation off the DVR last night, sight unseen.
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So Don Howard.... (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=10261&view=findpost&p=114326\")still have this wish?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'164740\' date=\'Sep 25 2007, 08:26 AM\']
So Don Howard.... (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=10261&view=findpost&p=114326\")still have this wish?
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The difference is that the show that made it to air is far from the show that Sale was. Would I like to see Press Your Luck come back? Sure, I think it would be fun. Do I want to see Whammy! again? Christ no.
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I tried to stomach another ep of Temptation yesterday, and after watching Rossi do his best emotionless emotions yet, this is the anology I came up with:
Fremantle is the Clear Channel of Game Shows!!!
Game shows, like radio staions, in the 70's were fun, bright, upbeat and creative. Each game show had it's own look and style. And for many shows, just as many people tuned in to see the host/personality as they did for the gameplay.
And much like how Clear Channel bought up tons of these fun stations in the 90s, and turned them into homogenized, uncreative, repetitive stations void of personality, Fremantle acquired the Goodson/Todman and Grundy libraries and then butchered the formats in any new reincarnations.
However, Clear Channel does leave morning drive alone at most stations so there is actually personality and creativity for 4 hours per day. Fremantle's "Morning" show in syndication is O'Hurley's Feud, everything else they have tried to bring back on the air has been utter crap!
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'164745\' date=\'Sep 25 2007, 10:43 AM\']
However, Clear Channel does leave morning drive alone at most stations so there is actually personality and creativity for 4 hours per day. Fremantle's "Morning" show in syndication is O'Hurley's Feud, everything else they have tried to bring back on the air has been utter crap!
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It is here your comparison dies. Ever heard of "Wake Up With Whoopi"? Or worse, have you ever heard "Wake Up With Whoopi"? And furthermore, a couple months back, Cheap Channel fired the morning host of the #2 station in Chicago, who was a longtime runaway number 1 in his target demo. Why? So they could replace him cheaply with the syndicated Steve Harvey morning show.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'164745\' date=\'Sep 25 2007, 11:43 AM\']
Fremantle is the Clear Channel of Game Shows!!!
Game shows, like radio staions, in the 70's were fun, bright, upbeat and creative. Each game show had it's own look and style. And for many shows, just as many people tuned in to see the host/personality as they did for the gameplay.
And much like how Clear Channel bought up tons of these fun stations in the 90s, and turned them into homogenized, uncreative, repetitive stations void of personality, Fremantle acquired the Goodson/Todman and Grundy libraries and then butchered the formats in any new reincarnations.
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Honestly, based on your analogy, I'd put Endemol in that category. Everything about their shows looks the same...won't go into the reasons, we've discussed them ad nauseum.
However, Fremantle still doesn't GET IT. I have no problem with the show changing up the 80s format. But the execution is piss-poor, if not horrible. Changes made for no rhyme and reason. You can't rush the excitement on a show like "Temptation" and force someone out the door within five days, then just say "Kthxbye!" and offer them lots of love. And if you're not going to offer consolation prizes, don't rub it in the contestants face by saying "We have lots of love". That's a heaping load of condescending bullstink and whoever wrote that should be slapped.
I gave this show a chance, and I'll watch it when it's on, but I can't go out of my way when the producers won't go out of theirs to make this show work.
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Since the Mays gang sold Clear Channel to a private equity firm, it's going to be loads of fun as the bean counters from hell lean on managers for profitability. The manager of the Grand Rapids group told a friend over lunch it was breaking his heart to have to let long-time good employees go because the stations were forced to meet tighter budget numbers. The gods must be smiling on him. His wife took a job position in California, and he managed to hook up with the west coast branch of another radio group. He was certain the axe was aimed at his neck, too. After all, what's good when you can get cheap? I'm guessing the new guys in charge will make it Cheaper Channel - if such a thing could be done.
Fremantle = Clear Channel. I kinda like that...
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'164745\' date=\'Sep 25 2007, 11:43 AM\']
Fremantle is the Clear Channel of Game Shows!!!
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How appropriate. I've long said that CC is sucking the soul out of local radio. FM appears to be doing the same thing to game shows. The only difference is that as CC implodes, FM continues to grow.
However, it's personal for me, CC deprived the poor people of Defiance, Ohio of the best DJ they ever had!
The two roads nearly crossed on so many levels, though. Just months before Jacor bought us out (and maybe one more month after CC bought them), the low power TV station we also ran (WDFM-TV) considered showing Pearson's MG98 (a year or so before they would become FM).
/Maybe I wasn't that good of a dj at 18.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'164740\' date=\'Sep 25 2007, 11:26 AM\']
So Don Howard.... (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=10261&view=findpost&p=114326\")still have this wish?
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Sure do. Unfortunately, it has yet to come true. And that includes the Brooke Burke tent wish.
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[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' post=\'164790\' date=\'Sep 25 2007, 05:55 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'164745\' date=\'Sep 25 2007, 11:43 AM\']
Fremantle is the Clear Channel of Game Shows!!!
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How appropriate. I've long said that CC is sucking the soul out of local radio. FM appears to be doing the same thing to game shows. The only difference is that as CC implodes, FM continues to grow.
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I would also like to add to the analogy mix:
Cedar Fair is the Clear Channel of Amusement Parks!!
(I spent the last 2 hours in various blogs lamenting the closing of the "Old" rides-based Geauga Lake Amusement Park in favor of the "New" Geauga Lake Waterpark.)
/Kennywood Rocks
//Except for the Exterminator (urp!)
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'164823\' date=\'Sep 25 2007, 10:27 PM\']
Cedar Fair is the Clear Channel of Amusement Parks!!
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Except they run Cedar Point, arguably the best roller coaster park in the country.
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Seeing as how I've worked at Cedar Point and for Clear Channel I feel so... dirty right now.
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(I spent the last 2 hours in various blogs lamenting the closing of the "Old" rides-based Geauga Lake Amusement Park in favor of the "New" Geauga Lake Waterpark.)
Even if attendance has dipped for the last 10 years?
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'164831\' date=\'Sep 26 2007, 08:50 AM\']
(I spent the last 2 hours in various blogs lamenting the closing of the "Old" rides-based Geauga Lake Amusement Park in favor of the "New" Geauga Lake Waterpark.)
Even if attendance has dipped for the last 10 years?
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While true that attendance had dropped (a lot of it due to Sea World's demise), from what I understand it's the way they handled the situation. When Six Flags owned the park, they grew it too big too fast and the Customer Service was way below standards. When Cedar Fair/Point bought it they didn't do much to turn that image of bad service and high costs for everything around.
Not to tell anyone in advance that you have one last time to ride the rides before they go away is not great PR -- even if it were only a month before the park closed for the season would have been somewhat respectful.
Being a member of the American Coaster Enthusiats for many years, most of the larger amusement parks that have fallen by the wayside in the last decade have given past and present visitors advance notice of their last hurrah. Even it was a business decision to cut overall costs, at least they were upfront about it and those who wanted to patronize could do so.
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/Kennywood Rocks
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You got that right!!
As a Pittsburgh native, I sure enjoy coming up for the summer and riding the Thunderbolt and Jack Rabbit. Hated to hear about Geauga Lake, that was a cool place.
Oh well, so much for staying on topic.
Don