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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: byrd62 on August 14, 2007, 09:00:18 AM
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Over half a century ago, Mark Goodson & Bill Todman, with the help of Bob Stewart, conceived of a show that started as Three of a Kind, which became a Mike Wallace-hosted pilot called Nothing But the Truth, which then went to a long run through 5 different versions as To Tell the Truth.
Now, the L.A. Times is reporting that Fox has ordered a game show using the TTTT pilot's title, NBTT, but is, instead, a show based on a format that's been a hit on TV in Colombia, but was originally developed by Studs creator Howard Schultz. It involves a contestant answering incriminating questions while hooked to a polygraph. If that contestant answers 21 incriminating questions without being caught in a fib by the polygraph, $50,000 is the prize.
http://www.calendarlive.com/printedition/c...oll=cl-calendar (http://\"http://www.calendarlive.com/printedition/calendar/cl-et-detector10aug10,0,6973606.story?coll=cl-calendar\")
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Sounds sickening, wouldn't you think?
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Yep, Sky One are doing a version in the UK.
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[quote name=\'byrd62\' post=\'160517\' date=\'Aug 14 2007, 09:00 AM\']
Sounds sickening, wouldn't you think?
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Um, this is FOX we're talking about. We are not surprised.
Dean
dscungio@att.net (dscungio@att.net)
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I knew this sounded familiar. I was digging through my BuzzerBlog archives from the Blogger era, and I found when they were originally casting this show for NBC. This was back in September 2006. Seems they passed on it, which is a good thing.
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Muchos years ago on America 2-Night with Martin Mull, there was a great gag interview with Sherman Hemsley of The Jeffersons hooked up to a lie detector. Paraphrased -
Barth: Nice to have you here, Sherman.
Sherm: Delighted to be here. (BUZZ)
Barth: Sorry to hear you lost out to ***** in the recent Emmys.
Sherm: Well, he deserved... (BUZZ)....he was the better..(BUZZ)....I think it was fixed!
Barth: I'm sure you wanted that Emmy.
Sherm: Well, it's not an indicator of true talent...(BUZZ)....it's just a trinket..(BUZZ)...I wanted that sucker real bad!
Jerry: But it must be great being a star. Except when you have to make all those promotional tours. It must be tough going from city to city and being stuck in hotel rooms all alone every night.
Sherm: .....(silence)....
All that to say...let's go straight to the Celebrity version. THAT I'd watch....
PS, friend Byrd - At about the same time TTTT was in development, the show People Are Funny played a game called Detecto, where a contestant questioned three people claiming to be something, such as a Southern senator. There was quite the row between G-T and John Guidel over who took whose format.
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' post=\'160532\' date=\'Aug 14 2007, 10:15 AM\']
PS, friend Byrd - At about the same time TTTT was in development, the show People Are Funny played a game called Detecto, where a contestant questioned three people claiming to be something, such as a Southern senator. There was quite the row between G-T and John Guidel over who took whose format.
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Interesting to hear, as I hadn't heard that before. Any more details? Not to mention the fact that Goodson got ticked over Bamboozle...
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Didn't F. Lee Bailey do this first?
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I say we can the debates and just have each of the presidential candidates appear as a contestant on this show. It would be more entertaining and more informative.
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FOX's new slogan: "Scraping the bottom of the barrel for over 20 years!"
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I didn't realize Maury would be on in primetime. Learn something new every day. ;)
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And how soon we forget "Hot Seat." Not the Wally George talk show, but the Jim Peck/H-Q relationship game on ABC.
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'160582\' date=\'Aug 14 2007, 03:07 PM\']
Didn't F. Lee Bailey do this first?
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Yes, come to think of it...just over a quarter-century ago...F. Lee and polygrapher Ed Gelb did a show called Lie Detector, but there were no cash prizes at stake then.
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[quote name=\'byrd62\' post=\'160517\' date=\'Aug 14 2007, 06:00 AM\']Now, the L.A. TimesIf that contestant answers 21 incriminating questions without being caught in a fib by the polygraph, $50,000 is the prize.
Sounds sickening, wouldn't you think?[/quote]No moreso than Who Wants to Win My Kidney? before we learned the jig is up. I remember hearing about this, hoping that it would die in Pilot Hell, but here we are. I'm completely unsurprised that we've come this far. I can only imagine the kind of question that they'd ask.
I suppose this would be a nadir in the cycle of the genre. I hope so.
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[quote name=\'byrd62\' post=\'160517\' date=\'Aug 14 2007, 09:00 AM\']
Now, the L.A. Times is reporting that Fox has ordered a game show using the TTTT pilot's title, NBTT, but is, instead, a show based on a format that's been a hit on TV in Colombia, but was originally developed by Studs creator Howard Schultz. It involves a contestant answering incriminating questions while hooked to a polygraph. If that contestant answers 21 incriminating questions without being caught in a fib by the polygraph, $50,000 is the prize.Sounds sickening, wouldn't you think?
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I know many of you were up all night wondering about this possible Fox addition.
Well,....it's official. (http://\"http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6469022.html\")
I think it should've been called, "Are You Smarter Than A Lie Detector" :-p
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And Jerry Springer is hosting the UK version! Amazing.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'160803\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 08:42 AM\']
And Jerry Springer is hosting the UK version! Amazing.
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Seriously? Cause that's inspired casting.
I thought Jerry missed his calling as a gs host after watching him do "Greed".
This is right up his alley, if it's true.
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How long before they use the question "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
Mike Darnell must be feeling really cocky about now--I wonder if he would've grabbed this show back in November at the height of the whole O.J. "If I Did It" debacle.
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NBC just announced a new show premiering next Tuesday (as long as it tests okay) called "Don't Tell a Lie!" in which a contestant who can answer a mere 17 questions truthfully will win $2,000,000. There will be two "lielines," a chance to "cross your fingers" and to have someone from the audience answer the question. Gilbert Gottfried is tabbed to host, unless his Fox gig comes through, then it will be Carrot Top, as these are the only late-80s stand-up comics still available.
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I see bannination in somebody's future...
(in other words: source, please.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'160866\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 04:58 PM\']
I see bannination in somebody's future...
(in other words: source, please.)
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I think he was being sarcastic. (self-WHOOOOOOOOOSH inserted here) But using a certain three-letter abbreviation would be cause for bannination....
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'160870\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 02:08 PM\']
I think he was being sarcastic. (self-WHOOOOOOOOOSH inserted here) But using a certain three-letter abbreviation would be cause for bannination....
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I, for one, am confused.
(And if it was sarcasm, it was very poor sarcasm that really came off as posting unsubstantiated rumor as fact.)
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I think Lie Detector was Ralph Andrews last show to air. One of the "subjects" was Bo Gritz, who lived here in Westchester (Los Angeles) with his stunning wife Claudia for awhile. He flunked questions about his "Rambo style" incursion into Viet Nam.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'160873\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 05:15 PM\']
I, for one, am confused.
(And if it was sarcasm, it was very poor sarcasm that really came off as posting unsubstantiated rumor as fact.)
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I gathered it was a sarcastic reverse on Fox's OMG GOTTA RUSH A RIPOFF TO AIR philosophy of game shows as of recent history (see Lyrics, Don't Forget The and Chamber, The). And it was poorly disguised as a unsubstantiated rumor.
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[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'160874\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 05:19 PM\']
I think Lie Detector was Ralph Andrews last show to air. One of the "subjects" was Bo Gritz, who lived here in Westchester (Los Angeles) with his stunning wife Claudia for awhile. He flunked questions about his "Rambo style" incursion into Viet Nam.
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Couldn't have been the last. I think that goes to Yahtzee, which aired the January after Lingo premiered. Lie Detector was from 1983. Unless it's a different one by the same name.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'160882\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 04:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'160873\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 05:15 PM\']
I, for one, am confused.
(And if it was sarcasm, it was very poor sarcasm that really came off as posting unsubstantiated rumor as fact.)
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I gathered it was a sarcastic reverse on Fox's OMG GOTTA RUSH A RIPOFF TO AIR philosophy of game shows as of recent history (see Lyrics, Don't Forget The and Chamber, The). And it was poorly disguised as a unsubstantiated rumor.
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And not just game shows (see "Spouses, Trading" and "911, Nanny").
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'160873\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 05:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'160870\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 02:08 PM\']
I think he was being sarcastic. (self-WHOOOOOOOOOSH inserted here) But using a certain three-letter abbreviation would be cause for bannination....
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I, for one, am confused.
(And if it was sarcasm, it was very poor sarcasm that really came off as posting unsubstantiated rumor as fact.)
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I'm sorry, Chris, but if you weren't thrown towards it being sarcastic (and your clues should have been Gilbert Gottfried and Carrot Top), you need to get a new detector.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'160992\' date=\'Aug 17 2007, 10:25 AM\']
I'm sorry, Chris, but if you weren't thrown towards it being sarcastic (and your clues should have been Gilbert Gottfried and Carrot Top), you need to get a new detector.
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Are you seriously telling me that you would completely and totally rule out the possibility of that happening? After they hired Bob Saget? After Drew Carey got the biggest gig in the industry? After Set For Life?
If you are, then you're snarking for the sake of snarking. Which I can't say surprises me.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'161000\' date=\'Aug 17 2007, 01:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'160992\' date=\'Aug 17 2007, 10:25 AM\']
I'm sorry, Chris, but if you weren't thrown towards it being sarcastic (and your clues should have been Gilbert Gottfried and Carrot Top), you need to get a new detector.
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Are you seriously telling me that you would completely and totally rule out the possibility of that happening? After they hired Bob Saget? After Drew Carey got the biggest gig in the industry? After Set For Life?
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I was being sarcastic, and I apologize that it wasn't funnier or more apparent.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'161000\' date=\'Aug 17 2007, 02:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'160992\' date=\'Aug 17 2007, 10:25 AM\']
I'm sorry, Chris, but if you weren't thrown towards it being sarcastic (and your clues should have been Gilbert Gottfried and Carrot Top), you need to get a new detector.
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Are you seriously telling me that you would completely and totally rule out the possibility of that happening? After they hired Bob Saget? After Drew Carey got the biggest gig in the industry? After Set For Life?
If you are, then you're snarking for the sake of snarking. Which I can't say surprises me.
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Oh, get a grip, Lemon. Seriously. I'm not the one that didn't get the joke. And considering your curmudgeonly attitude when it comes to certain jokes, I can't say THAT surprises me.
Come on...Gilbert Gottfried and CARROT TOP as serious considerations? Those are two guys I would definitely rule out.
(Don't need to apologize, Neumms...some people got it, others didn't. Not your fault.)
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Chris has a point that given some of the talent choices we've seen of late, Gilbert Gottfried and Carrot Top aren't out of the realm of possibility. Also, considering some of the idiocies we've seen in concepts (and considering that Fox is, well, Fox), Neumms's description isn't as farfetched as it should have been. That said, the line "as these are the only late-80s stand-up comics still available" was a clear clue, IMO, that it was a joke.
Bottom line: Neumms's post came off to me more as an April Fools-type "let's reel 'em in and then surprise them at the end" thing rather than as an obvious attempt at humor. No harm was done but you all know how we feel about April Fools jokes.
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Huh. I had it pegged as a joke from the moment I started reading it (silly literal name describing the show's content, less work for more money, etc.). Oh, well.
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Well it's gonna premiere January 23rd (http://\"http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20071107fox03\")....Right after an American Idol episode of course. $500,000 is the top prize. Mark L. Walberg is hosting if you didn't hear earlier.
\subject to change of course if the strike is settled quickly
\\odds of that happening is about the chance of seeing Frosty in Hades
\\\24 fans aren't gonna be happy with the revised schedule either....
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'169065\' date=\'Nov 8 2007, 07:28 AM\']
Well it's gonna premiere January 23rd (http://\"http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20071107fox03\")....Right after an American Idol episode of course. $500,000 is the top prize. Mark L. Walberg is hosting if you didn't hear earlier.
\subject to change of course if the strike is settled quickly
\\odds of that happening is about the chance of seeing Frosty in Hades
\\\24 fans aren't gonna be happy with the revised schedule either....
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Someone on Nikki Finke's blog (the place to go for what's going in Hollywood this week) said that Fox's reality department is in the dumps right now because they can't seem to find anything that will work. Mea culpa, of course, but only two new shows in this schedule ("Truth" and "When Women Ruled the World") seems to be a lot less than I expected Mike Darnell and the boys to bring it when they're needed. We may just get those unaired episodes of "Nashville" on anyway.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'160882\' date=\'Aug 16 2007, 02:44 PM\']
I gathered it was a sarcastic reverse on Fox's OMG GOTTA RUSH A RIPOFF TO AIR philosophy of game shows as of recent history (see Lyrics, Don't Forget The and Chamber, The).
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Does this mean since Password is coming back that we can expect You Don't Say! to air after The Simpsons? :^)
-Kevin
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[quote name=\'TwoInchQuad\' post=\'169115\' date=\'Nov 8 2007, 02:22 PM\']
Does this mean since Password is coming back that we can expect You Don't Say! to air after The Simpsons? :^)
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The host would have to stand off to the left. When is ANYTHING owned by News Corp on the left?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'169117\' date=\'Nov 8 2007, 05:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'TwoInchQuad\' post=\'169115\' date=\'Nov 8 2007, 02:22 PM\']
Does this mean since Password is coming back that we can expect You Don't Say! to air after The Simpsons? :^)
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The host would have to stand off to the left. When is ANYTHING owned by News Corp on the left?
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Alan Colmes to the white courtesy phone please! Geraldo Rivera to the white courtesy phone please!
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' post=\'169144\' date=\'Nov 8 2007, 06:57 PM\']
Alan Colmes to the white courtesy phone please!
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Colmes can't answer. Hannity hasn't given him permission.