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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Casey Buck on July 25, 2007, 11:44:24 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/25/arts/tel...25cnd-care.html (http://\"http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/25/arts/television/25cnd-care.html\") (requires registration)
An interesting (and fairly reassuring) excerpt:
Asked to size up Mr. Barker's appeal, Mr. Carey put it this way: "He has good empathy for all the players. He wants them to win. You can hug him. He went from being your dad and your uncle to your grandfather. You know, 'He's Bob, he's on my side.' "
Mr. Carey said he hoped to bring a similar warmth to his new role, and that while he was confident he could extract plenty of humor from his guests' anxieties — mainly through his efforts to try to calm them down — he would not seek to mine laughs by making fun of them. He also said he was confident that whatever dirty jokes he still liked to tell, particularly in places like Las Vegas, would stay in Las Vegas.
Regular viewers of "The Price Is Right," he says, can rest assured that beyond getting used to his blond-brown crew cut in place of Mr. Barker's white mane, little about the show will change. An announcer will still prod contestants from the audience with the signature "Come on down!" And beyond a few touch-ups, the set is also "going to look very familiar."
One change that he and the producers are planning, he said, is periodically to take the show, which is based in Los Angeles, on the road, and broadcast for a week or so from various cities.
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[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'158660\' date=\'Jul 25 2007, 08:44 PM\']
He went from being your dad and your uncle to your grandfather.
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Certainly we know he let at least one employee know who her daddy was.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'158663\' date=\'Jul 25 2007, 08:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'158660\' date=\'Jul 25 2007, 08:44 PM\']
He went from being your dad and your uncle to your grandfather.
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Certainly we know he let at least one employee know who her daddy was.
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No more calls, please. :)
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By the way, here's the line I found interesting...
He acknowledged, for example, that his minimum tip — even for a hamburger at Denny’s, or a Coke at a Cracker Barrel — is typically $100, and sometimes much more.
Suddenly, I hope he comes to Seattle soon. I'd bake him a pizza ANY day. :)
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Just one guys opinion (one who happens to be a host too, albeit on a MUCH smaller level)....
This guy gets 'it'. He realizes the impact Price has had on television and pop culture, yet is realistic enough to know that in the grand scheme of things, it's 'just' a game show.
The more I read and hear from him, the more I'm convinced CBS didn't blow this choice. He has a LOT of work ahead of him in the next few weeks, memorizing the minute details that make TPIR a difficult show to host, but I'm absolutely sure he'll be fine.
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What interested me was the mention that they're thinking of taking the show on the road....The key would be getting the right places to stage it (The Vegas episode a few years back was OK, but they probably needed a different venue..) Like if they did some NYC eps, I wouldn't go to Radio City Music Hall, I would try the Theater at Madison Square Garden (it's a little smaller)
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The problem is that they *need* big in order to be able to load in the set pieces. Unless they develop smallified versions of some of the games to take on the road.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'158688\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 10:44 AM\']
The problem is that they *need* big in order to be able to load in the set pieces. Unless they develop smallified versions of some of the games to take on the road.
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Wouldn't they almost have to? Those set pieces weren't designed to travel any farther from the TV City scene dock to Studio 33 and back again. The Vegas deal was only supposed to be a one-shot.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'158691\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 08:58 AM\']
Wouldn't they almost have to? Those set pieces weren't designed to travel any farther from the TV City scene dock to Studio 33 and back again. The Vegas deal was only supposed to be a one-shot.
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I think they probably would, yeah. Save for some of the newer games, which might have been built to travel. Golden Road or something would be easy, right?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'158693\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 12:05 PM\']
I think they probably would, yeah. Save for some of the newer games, which might have been built to travel. Golden Road or something would be easy, right?
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That has me wondering does TV City still have the slightly smaller-scaled replicas of the TPIR doors used during the Gameshow Marathon. Would it be feasible to use those? HM.
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[quote name=\'pianogeek\' post=\'158695\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 09:10 AM\']
That has me wondering does TV City still have the slightly smaller-scaled replicas of the TPIR doors used during the Gameshow Marathon.
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My memory of Gameshow Marathon (perhaps intentionally) is fuzzy. I thought they did TPiR in 33 and the rest of the series on the Marathon set?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'158703\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 12:54 PM\']
My memory of Gameshow Marathon (perhaps intentionally) is fuzzy. I thought they did TPiR in 33 and the rest of the series on the Marathon set?
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Marathon, including whole TPIR episode, was done at 46(?). (Someone confirm?)
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'158684\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 10:48 AM\']
What interested me was the mention that they're thinking of taking the show on the road....The key would be getting the right places to stage it (The Vegas episode a few years back was OK, but they probably needed a different venue..) Like if they did some NYC eps, I wouldn't go to Radio City Music Hall, I would try the Theater at Madison Square Garden (it's a little smaller)
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Imagine the possibilities....Mountain Climber played on a real mountain in Switzerland!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'158688\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 08:44 AM\']
The problem is that they *need* big in order to be able to load in the set pieces. Unless they develop smallified versions of some of the games to take on the road.
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Big stage, yes. But a big audience, particularly one with balconies, is a bad idea, as we saw in the Vegas episodes.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'158703\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 12:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'pianogeek\' post=\'158695\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 09:10 AM\']
That has me wondering does TV City still have the slightly smaller-scaled replicas of the TPIR doors used during the Gameshow Marathon.
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My memory of Gameshow Marathon (perhaps intentionally) is fuzzy. I thought they did TPiR in 33 and the rest of the series on the Marathon set?
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The only thing Ricki did in 33 was a short intro in front of the doors with black tiles. It looked awful.
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'158713\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 02:11 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'158688\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 08:44 AM\']
The problem is that they *need* big in order to be able to load in the set pieces. Unless they develop smallified versions of some of the games to take on the road.
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Big stage, yes. But a big audience, particularly one with balconies, is a bad idea, as we saw in the Vegas episodes.
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The only thing I could think of for a stage show would be an indoor arena or convention hall, i.e. the Jacob Javitts Center or MSG as suggested earlier. Even something like a basketball arena could work, just section off portions of the audience. Not sure how large your "stage" area might be.
One problem I see with a convention hall might be setting up seating.
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Color me skeptical about them ever taking the TV show on the road again, given all of the problems they had the first (and last) time they did it. I know they priced out doing the show from MSG and they were looking at a cost of $1 million (less people and prizes) to do a week of shows from NY.
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Is there really that much of a novelty to seeing a show on the road? Now that Wheel does it, what, half the year, it doesn't seem that cool unless you happen to be in the visited city. Unless you did play Cliff Hangers on a real mountain. Or had a five-story tall Plinko game.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'158742\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 05:55 PM\']
Or had a five-story tall Plinko game.
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Oooooh. I like where you're going with that.
I'm heading over to the "Ideas for Price is Right" thread. See you there.
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Is there really that much of a novelty to seeing a show on the road?
It buys the cast, crew and company a free trip to the destination city. Never mind that they go through living hell trying to put on the show there.
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'158684\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 10:48 AM\']
What interested me was the mention that they're thinking of taking the show on the road....The key would be getting the right places to stage it (The Vegas episode a few years back was OK, but they probably needed a different venue..) Like if they did some NYC eps, I wouldn't go to Radio City Music Hall, I would try the Theater at Madison Square Garden (it's a little smaller)
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Ya just KNOW Cleveland will be on or near the top of the list! TPiR may have an opportunity to get to Cleveland before Wheel and J! ever do (and WoF & J! have done road trips for HOW many years now???).
I think the Palace Theater on Playhouse Square would be a great venue, plus its about 2-3 blocks away from the CBS affiliate, WOIO.
The last time TPIR sorta came to town was way back when Bob Barker did the ol' Fun & Games circuit down at the old Richfield Coliseum (which was fairly new at the time and has since been torn down).
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'158759\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 07:08 PM\']
I think the Palace Theater on Playhouse Square would be a great venue, plus its about 2-3 blocks away from the CBS affiliate, WOIO.
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Speaking of, has WOIO gone overboard with this news? Surely the 5th place station in the Mkt could use a shot of good news.
/Waiting for the "Price is Right/Wheel of Justice Hour".
//If you don't live in Cleveland, you're missing out on television at it's finest.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'158768\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 08:21 PM\']Speaking of, has WOIO gone overboard with this news? Surely the 5th place station in the Mkt could use a shot of good news.[/quote]
No. I watched WOIO's 11 PM newscast on Monday to see if Drew would be the top story. He was the first thing mentioned on the news, but the whole story didn't come for another 7 or 8 minutes. WJW, the FOX affiliate which was Cleveland's CBS affiliate until the early 90s, briefly mentioned the story in waning moments before the end of the newscast.
I LOL'ed at the Wheel of Justice reference.
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I think the Palace Theater on Playhouse Square would be a great venue
That stage looks awfully small:
http://www.playhousesquare.com/minisites/s...PL_liteplot.pdf (http://\"http://www.playhousesquare.com/minisites/specs/pdf/PSC_PL_liteplot.pdf\")
TPIR is unique in that it requires a sizeable enclosed area, attached to the stage and at stage level, to hold games and prizes. You can't bring TPIR into just any theater and do it. ISTR that they tried to deal with the need for offstage space in Las Vegas by trying to use the built-in stage elevators. This concept looked great on paper but didn't work out quite the way it was supposed to when they got there. Randy probably remembers more about it than I.
The State Theatre in Cleveland:
http://www.playhousesquare.com/minisites/s...ST_liteplot.pdf (http://\"http://www.playhousesquare.com/minisites/specs/pdf/PSC_ST_liteplot.pdf\")
looks a little more promising because it appears to have this little "bonus" area located at the rear of the stage if I'm reading this plot right. If we knew the width of the TPIR doors we could sketch out a little plan (I'm guessing they're 16' wide).
Somebody in Cleveland go into the State Theatre and start taking pictures :-)
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'158776\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 09:57 PM\']
I LOL'ed at the Wheel of Justice reference.
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Good. I aim to make just one person in the room laugh.
/If you can make just one person in the room laugh.
//You probably shouldn't be an aspiring stand-up comic.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'158800\' date=\'Jul 27 2007, 02:25 AM\']Somebody in Cleveland go into the State Theatre and start taking pictures :-)[/quote]
I've been to the State Theatre enough. Heck, I used to work in the office building connected to Playhouse Square. The State's stage is probably wide enough to handle TPiR but it's nowhere near as deep as 33. Also, the area behind Playhouse Square is not large enough to hold however many trucks would transport everything needed for the production. Having 1000 or so people waiting in the foyer of the State with the overflow on Euclid Avenue could be a problem, given the perpetual construction of the Euclid Corridor downtown and because I wouldn't visit downtown Cleveland on Euclid Avenue between Midnight and 5 AM.
The I-X Center (http://\"http://www.ixcenter.com/geninfo/facility.cfm\"), on the other hand...
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The State Theater is 62' from curtain line to back wall. Eyeballing a diagram of 33, it's probably 50' or so from back wall to contestants' row. The other theaters in Cleveland have shallower stages and no offstage space.
The I-X Center, on the other hand...
Yeah, so? I don't see a room at the I-X Center which would be able to handle the lighting and sound requirements of a TV show on the scale of TPIR, not to mention having a theater-style fly gallery, cyc and stage as added conveniences.
Any other game show would be much easier to take on the road, but not TPIR with its vast amount of scenery (including prizes). Drew's idea of taking TPIR all over the US needs a serious reality check.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'158811\' date=\'Jul 27 2007, 08:03 AM\']
Any other game show would be much easier to take on the road, but not TPIR with its vast amount of scenery (including prizes). Drew's idea of taking TPIR all over the US needs a serious reality check.
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Yes but...if you're traveling to major cities, why do you need to schlep prizes around?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'158811\' date=\'Jul 27 2007, 06:03 AM\']
Any other game show would be much easier to take on the road, but not TPIR with its vast amount of scenery (including prizes). Drew's idea of taking TPIR all over the US needs a serious reality check.
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I'm gonna guess that Drew said that, not aware of what a pain in the ass it would be to take the show on the road (since really nobody outside of us geeks has any idea), and that when he gets involved with Roger et. al. he will quickly discovered the logistics of it.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'158811\' date=\'Jul 27 2007, 09:03 AM\']
The I-X Center, on the other hand...
Yeah, so? I don't see a room at the I-X Center which would be able to handle the lighting and sound requirements of a TV show on the scale of TPIR, not to mention having a theater-style fly gallery, cyc and stage as added conveniences.[/quote]
I'm sure the I-X Center has stage capacities. Is a single stage big enough for TPiR? Very doubtful. The A/V and seating issues might be entirely different. If you could mix the audio, video, and seating capabilities of Playhouse Square with the sheer volume of I-X, it would be a near perfect match.
The only other venue which in Cleveland which would be feasible would be Quicken Loans Arena.
/And given the feasibility of this idea, all this debating about what venue in Cleveland could work for TPiR is virtually pointless.
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TPIR has used a single stage for 35+ years.
Even if you found the ideal venue, crowd control would be the downfall, as it was in Las Vegas.
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'158812\' date=\'Jul 27 2007, 09:36 AM\']
Yes but...if you're traveling to major cities, why do you need to schlep prizes around?
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I started to ask the same question--but whether you shlep the prizes or get them delivered from local dealers, you still want prizes on stage. Part of the fun of "Price" is seeing the car roll out on stage, having the model snuggle into Contestants' Row with the jewelery on, etc. Video wall, film-clip, art-card...it's not the same.
/yes, I know they don't put the Eiffel Tower on stage for a trip to France.
//or a 747 for the round-trip airfare for two...
///membership in the mile-high club not included
////that we know of
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'158859\' date=\'Jul 27 2007, 01:06 PM\']
I started to ask the same question--but whether you shlep the prizes or get them delivered from local dealers, you still want prizes on stage.[/quote]You'd still have them on stage. I think Jay is asking why, if you're in a big enough city to find them easily, you would carry the prizes as part of your travelling show instead of borrowing or renting them from someplace local.
And I think the answer to that is: do you want to be caught in Cleveland needing a certain brand of bed and the local stores all happen to be out of it? That just isn't a chance you take.
/do you want to be caught in Cleveland needing a certain brand of bed
//there, fixed that for me
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Cars could be had from local dealers, and possibly trailers and RVs, but that might be the extent of it. It would be a job making sure the local guy had the right make and model of whatever prize you need on hand on the day you need it and that he doesn't sell it before you get there.
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And in the case of the prizes that a local guy might not have, the manufacturer would see to it that the particular item was in the hands of the TPIR people prior to taping.