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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Shredder on June 18, 2003, 09:37:52 AM
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Does anyone have the schedule for guests in June/July? I need to know when Bruce Goldburg is making an appearance..
Thanks :).
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[quote name=\'Shredder\' date=\'Jun 18 2003, 06:37 AM\'] I need to know when Bruce Goldburg is making an appearance..
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At the risk of having to turn in my Pop Culture membership card, who's Bruce Goldburg?
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Heh, NY Radio Show Producer, start of his own Radio Game SHow, 'Beat the Brucer'..
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[quote name=\'Shredder\' date=\'Jun 18 2003, 08:58 AM\'] Heh, NY Radio Show Producer, start of his own Radio Game SHow, 'Beat the Brucer'.. [/quote]
And he's booked on PYRAMID? Holy \"D\" List, Batman!
Gawd, if this is the caliber of celebrity they're looking for, maybe they'll call ME to be a guest. Of course, with my luck, they'll put me up against Hal Sparks, who had better have the game down pat by now having been on it something like 15 weeks.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 18 2003, 12:34 PM\'] [quote name=\'Shredder\' date=\'Jun 18 2003, 08:58 AM\'] Heh, NY Radio Show Producer, start of his own Radio Game SHow, 'Beat the Brucer'.. [/quote]
And he's booked on PYRAMID? Holy "D" List, Batman!
Gawd, if this is the caliber of celebrity they're looking for, maybe they'll call ME to be a guest. Of course, with my luck, they'll put me up against Hal Sparks, who had better have the game down pat by now having been on it something like 15 weeks. [/quote]
If I'm not mistaken, didn't they have some sort of Radio DJs week earlier in the season? At least, I thought this was the show where I caught a DJ week. Of course, if not, then yes, this is pretty damn low on the totem pole, lower than Henry Polic II. :-P
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jun 18 2003, 10:39 AM\'] If I'm not mistaken, didn't they have some sort of Radio DJs week earlier in the season?
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Even then, here is a list of nationally recognized DJ's / radio personalities:
Howard Stern, Don Imus, Danny Bonaduce, Mark Thompson & Brian Phelps (actually, Mark & Brian playing against each other would be a cool show), Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Pinsky, Rush Limbaugh, and MAYBE Tom Leykis. Once you start getting into the Mancow Mullers of the business, you're going downhill fast.
I've never even HEARD of this Goldburg fellow, and I'm at least close enough to the industry that if he was any kind of a major player at all, I would have.
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There was an interesting article in the paper awhile back mentioning that
A) He's on a 55 game winning streak on his radio quiz show
B) He won $2,700 on Jackpot in '74
C) He won on Whew
D) He won on Blockbusters
I'd venture a guess that he's pretty bright.
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Heh, they'd of had him on Jeapordy instead of Pyramid, but since they are an ABC owned station, this isn't possible. A 'Celebrity' version, perhaps, but not sure on the rules of such contestant submissions.
And if anyone wants, I can upload a segment of the Quiz show if anyone is curious. Their always looking for a trivia nut to try and beat him.
I'm getting sick of him winning myself, heh, but I've been told that this Pyramid appearance is sometime in July.
Now I just need a guest list.
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Even then, here is a list of nationally recognized DJ's / radio personalities:
Howard Stern, Don Imus, Danny Bonaduce, Mark Thompson & Brian Phelps (actually, Mark & Brian playing against each other would be a cool show), Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew Pinsky, Rush Limbaugh, and MAYBE Tom Leykis. Once you start getting into the Mancow Mullers of the business, you're going downhill fast.
And thanks to his \"AI\" and \"AJ\" gig (and his upcoming daily talk show gig), we have to add Star 97 LA's Ryan Seacrest to the list, even if we don't want to.
But I refuse to add Valentine or Clear Channel's champion voice tracker Randi West.
And note that I didn't say Dunkelman. Take that, Dalton Ross.
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I think Bruce Goldberg used to work on American Top 40.
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Since the issue of \"Pyramid's\" guest list came up, let me fire this out there for discussion: Since the celebrities are in large part Hal Sparks and radio deejays, wouldn't the show be better off without them?
They haven't been able to draw decent stars since the 70s, so it's not as if that's a big part of the appeal. And they could still do a celebrity-partner week once in a while, whenever Betty White, Dick Clark or Vicki Lawrence happen to be driving by on taping day.
It would be more exciting to me to see a family pair (or \"Lingo\"-style team) celebrating a big win, you wouldn't have celebrities to blame for lousy clues, and think what they could do with all the time spent explaining what exactly qualifies the \"celebrity\" as a celebrity.
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Wasn't the problem with having family or friends partnered that they could be too familiar. Clues like \"Uncle George works in a...\" or \"The first name of our cousin in Oregon..\" etc.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jun 28 2003, 04:22 PM\'] Wasn't the problem with having family or friends partnered that they could be too familiar. Clues like "Uncle George works in a..." or "The first name of our cousin in Oregon.." etc. [/quote]
Exactly. The LAST thing you want is two people playing that game that know each other well. All of the \"inside\" clues would make for horrendously bad television.
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Such a scenario Chris and Jimmy describe is what didn't help the family pair episodes of Pyramid tried in 1979.
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I hadn't seen the family pair episodes, so thanks for pointing that out.
Well, what about teaming up two total strangers, as on \"You Bet Your Life\"? They could switch strangers after the first round. Or what if they were strangers but had the same job, as on \"Hot Potato\"? Or what if they got sort of creative? Stay-at-home moms versus stay-at-home dads? Bald guys versus toupee wearers? Blonde versus brunette week?
I'd go for anything to keep them from inviting Leeza Gibbons back. But what do you think of it?
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jun 29 2003, 01:10 AM\'] I hadn't seen the family pair episodes, so thanks for pointing that out.
Well, what about teaming up two total strangers, as on "You Bet Your Life"? They could switch strangers after the first round. Or what if they were strangers but had the same job, as on "Hot Potato"? Or what if they got sort of creative? Stay-at-home moms versus stay-at-home dads? Bald guys versus toupee wearers? Blonde versus brunette week?
I'd go for anything to keep them from inviting Leeza Gibbons back. But what do you think of it? [/quote]
Strangers who have the same job could still wind up with inside clues, but at least unlike relatives or friends you wouldn't have to worry about them working out some kind of code.
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Such a scenario Chris and Jimmy describe is what didn't help the family pair episodes of Pyramid tried in 1979.
Indeed...the ep that's been floating around has a mom offering \"Bobby is your...\" as a clue for 'cousin' to her son.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")
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THose \"known only between the family/friends\" kind of clues are sometimes given in the Pyramid-like \"30 second shootout\" game on the PAX run of Supermarket Sweep(where a player has 30 seconds to communicate as many words on a card to their teammate, the first letters of which are clues to a grocery item or brand name)
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They could just make inside clues illegal, worthy of a cuckoo.
The bigger point is, they'd be far better off figuring out some way to ditch celebrities if they can't attract entertaining, well-known ones.
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Yeah, but a cuckoo on an inside clue...couldn't that get extremely subjective?
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jul 1 2003, 06:28 PM\'] They could just make inside clues illegal, worthy of a cuckoo.
The bigger point is, they'd be far better off figuring out some way to ditch celebrities if they can't attract entertaining, well-known ones. [/quote]
To your first point: How could a judge be sure a clue was illegally \"inside\"?
To your second, no. They gain nothing by ditching celebrities in favor of an all-civilian format. The 1970s Pyramid had \"stars\", but the better Pyramid in terms of game play was in the 80s, when being a star was less inportant to Bob Stewart than whether you could play his little game well.
What the current Pyramid did in the first season was find itself, both in how they were going to judge and what sort of celebrities they were going to be able to get. I think what you'll see next season are a lot more returning \"good players\", regardless of how far up they go on the celeb-o-meter.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jul 1 2003, 11:28 AM\'] They could just make inside clues illegal, worthy of a cuckoo.
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That would be so gray-area as to be completely unenforcable. I suppose the rest of the clue rules have some gray areas as well, but at least you can gauge when someone has stepped too far over the line. I just don't see how you'd do that with something like this.
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I was thinking of the clues noted earlier, such as \"Shirley is your ________.\" If it was just a matter of mentioning specific people, it might not be that hard to judge, but I suppose other things could come up, too. So I'll grant that partners who know each other isn't the way to go.
I still think that lousy, no-talent celebrities bring down the show, though. It makes the Pyramid seem bush league, and the game is so good it shouldn't be that way.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Jul 1 2003, 07:12 PM\'] I still think that lousy, no-talent celebrities bring down the show, though. It makes the Pyramid seem bush league, and the game is so good it shouldn't be that way. [/quote]
I don't agree that it reflects poorly on the show, but it certainly isn't as entertaining. I was watching Scott Hamilton on the $100K show today. I love Scott Hamilton. I've had the honor of seeing him skate live once. And damn, does he suck at Pyramid. (In the WC, anyhow.) I don't think it made the show bad, it just meant that Scott Hamilton sucked at Pyramid. C'est la vie.
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Scott didn't do too much better on the current season of Donny Pyramid either IIRC. But he's better than Krayzelburg.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 1 2003, 09:13 PM\'] Scott didn't do too much better on the current season of Donny Pyramid either IIRC. But he's better than Krayzelburg. [/quote]
With apologies to Jeremy, I've suffered from foot fungus that played the game better than Krayzelburg. :)
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Bruce Goldberg will appear during Pyramid's Second Season as a contestant...not a celeb.
Stephen