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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: The Pyramids on June 23, 2007, 08:01:27 AM
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Here is more of the same on Rosie O'Donnell, but also another take on why 'Price' is not on GSN. This columm, by the way, is a great read everyday regardless of the topic.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284975,00.html (http://\"http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284975,00.html\")
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That doesn't explain why the post-Janice eps aren't on. Why not let GSN have those? That way Bob could make some extra scratch without the girls getting any.
They report, I decide.
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Parkinson made sure there was a stain on Barker’s legacy when she sued him for sexual harassment in 1993.
...as he did on hers.
/You knew someone was going to say it.
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[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' post=\'155890\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 12:30 PM\']
Parkinson made sure there was a stain on Barker’s legacy when she sued him for sexual harassment in 1993.
...as he did on hers.
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Just on his legacy?
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My question is, how much say does Bob have over the reruns, now that he stepped down? Didn't he relinquish his EP duties, or will he still have pull as a "consultant", so to speak?
Come to think of it, I thought the reruns issue was a CBS decision?
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'155882\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 08:01 AM\']
Here is more of the same on Rosie O'Donnell, but also another take on why 'Price' is not on GSN. This columm, by the way, is a great read everyday regardless of the topic.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284975,00.html (http://\"http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284975,00.html\")
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The article says that before this summer Price has never been shown in re-runs which of course is BS, but it is FOX news so that is not so surprising. I sure wish these "reporters" would get their facts straight before reporting the BS tho.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'155882\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 08:01 AM\']
Here is more of the same on Rosie O'Donnell, but also another take on why 'Price' is not on GSN. This columm, by the way, is a great read everyday regardless of the topic.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284975,00.html (http://\"http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284975,00.html\")
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Between this and Bob's revisionist history to try to void out 58ish years of NOT caring about animals and NOT asking people to have their pets spayed or neutered, I have little respect for Bob's off-camera personality. He's just another bitter old man who is on a power trip and who likes to pretend bad things he did or people he wronged never existed, and those sorts of people are NOT high in my book.
If every celebrity who decided to ditch fur/go veg(geteri)an decided to cover their tracks from their past like Bob did, so much of TV and film would be un-airable because of their objections it wouldn't be funny.
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[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155898\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 05:24 PM\']Between this and Bob's revisionist history to try to void out 58ish years of NOT caring about animals and NOT asking people to have their pets spayed or neutered, I have little respect for Bob's off-camera personality. [/quote]
While it's fairly well established by now that off-camera-Bob wasn't all sweetness and light, I think this is pretty harsh. In the first place, every indication is that Bob has cared about animals all his life. The fact that he took up his passionate crusade relatively late in life shouldn't count against him, and if he can use whatever power he has to prevent past fur-trimmed episodes from seeing the light of day, why shouldn't he? If anything, it shows a consistency to his beliefs that he's willing to fight that hard. And don't forget, this whole thing more or less started with him walking away from a lucrative and high-profile gig with the Miss Universe folks over what many at the time probably thought was a silly and frivolous issue. I don't care how well-off you are, that takes guts.
His off-camera personality is one thing, but seeing his support of animal rights as anything but honest and heartfelt seems way out of line.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'155903\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 06:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155898\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 05:24 PM\']Between this and Bob's revisionist history to try to void out 58ish years of NOT caring about animals and NOT asking people to have their pets spayed or neutered, I have little respect for Bob's off-camera personality. [/quote]
While it's fairly well established by now that off-camera-Bob wasn't all sweetness and light, I think this is pretty harsh. In the first place, every indication is that Bob has cared about animals all his life. The fact that he took up his passionate crusade relatively late in life shouldn't count against him, and if he can use whatever power he has to prevent past fur-trimmed episodes from seeing the light of day, why shouldn't he? If anything, it shows a consistency to his beliefs that he's willing to fight that hard. And don't forget, this whole thing more or less started with him walking away from a lucrative and high-profile gig with the Miss Universe folks over what many at the time probably thought was a silly and frivolous issue. I don't care how well-off you are, that takes guts.
His off-camera personality is one thing, but seeing his support of animal rights as anything but honest and heartfelt seems way out of line.
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I am all for animal rights, however what he did is a bit too excessive. People screw up things, people make mistakes, most people live with said mistakes and mea cuelpa for them for the rest of their lives and not try to pretend if it didn't exist. Could anyone here imagine a world without The Mary Tyler Moore Show because of the fur coat in the opening in the first season, the ground beef in the grocery cart in the opening, and the fact that the characters of Mary, Lou, and Sue Ann ate meat unlike those who portrayed them?
Personally, I loathe fur and wish a pox on those who buy it and I think it should be illegal, but Bob should have lived with his mistakes like anyone else. Call me when the episode of The Golden Girls with the mink breeding B plot (contrary to the fact that the entire quartet is anti-fur) next airs.
The deal is that nobody from the same boat would do what Bob did, and coupled with his mistreatment of his former models he is a jerk, plain and simple. I hope Dian, Holly, and Janice get the upper hand, they at least have class and are not jerks and should sue Bob into bankruptcy.
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Will Rosie be exclaiming “Come on down!” soon to contestants?
Nope, only Rich Fields will be exclaiming that phrase, Roger Friedman (writer). Sorry, I will only believe in the network's reason for not giving the rerun rights back to Game Show Network.
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[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155907\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 07:03 PM\']I am all for animal rights, however what he did is a bit too excessive. People screw up things, people make mistakes, most people live with said mistakes and mea cuelpa for them for the rest of their lives and not try to pretend if it didn't exist. Could anyone here imagine a world without The Mary Tyler Moore Show because of the fur coat in the opening in the first season, the ground beef in the grocery cart in the opening, and the fact that the characters of Mary, Lou, and Sue Ann ate meat unlike those who portrayed them?[/quote]
First of all, I can easily imagine a world where the MTM Show openings had those first two items edited out of them.
Second of all, did Bob raise a stink about old episodes that featured meat products?
Thirdly and lastly, you can't see where it might take things to another level when you're giving away furs as glamorous prizes that any sensible gurl would be thrilled to win?
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'155910\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 09:32 PM\']
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155907\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 07:03 PM\']I am all for animal rights, however what he did is a bit too excessive. People screw up things, people make mistakes, most people live with said mistakes and mea cuelpa for them for the rest of their lives and not try to pretend if it didn't exist. Could anyone here imagine a world without The Mary Tyler Moore Show because of the fur coat in the opening in the first season, the ground beef in the grocery cart in the opening, and the fact that the characters of Mary, Lou, and Sue Ann ate meat unlike those who portrayed them?[/quote]
First of all, I can easily imagine a world where the MTM Show openings had those first two items edited out of them.
Second of all, did Bob raise a stink about old episodes that featured meat products?
Thirdly and lastly, you can't see where it might take things to another level when you're giving away furs as glamorous prizes that any sensible gurl would be thrilled to win?
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1: I never noticed the former (the first season theme sucked), but every time I've seen it the meat in the cart existed.
2: Not to my knowledge, and I've lurked and such since ATGS.
3: Not in this day and age where fur is a shadow of what it once was. Any sensible girl cares about animals and would protest and beg for cash in lieu of the fur. Fur is a relic and when the old generation dies nobody will care about it anymore.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'155910\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 09:32 PM\']Thirdly and lastly, you can't see where it might take things to another level when you're giving away furs as glamorous prizes that any sensible gurl would be thrilled to win?[/quote]
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155907\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 07:03 PM\']3: Not in this day and age where fur is a shadow of what it once was. Any sensible girl cares about animals and would protest and beg for cash in lieu of the fur. Fur is a relic and when the old generation dies nobody will care about it anymore.[/quote]Those are fairly wide-sweeping generalizations that you've made, and you're in no position to make them. ("Scrabbleship," not Mr. Hutchinson. Robert is on the money here.)
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[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155912\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 10:13 PM\']1: I never noticed the former (the first season theme sucked), but every time I've seen it the meat in the cart existed.[/quote]
Robert was addressing the hypothetical tone of your original question. As far as I know, both images have always remained in the show's opening; he's just saying that if the fur and the meat in the opening really presented a problem, it would be a simple thing to remove them.
The difference between reruns of MTM and reruns of TPIR are so dramatic as to make the analogy pretty weak anyway. If you want to pretend not to recognize that, you're just being obstinate. The bottom line is that Barker has the power, and whether he's acting out of malice, out of fear of embarrassment or out of a genuine and sincere believe that he's doing right by his four-legged friends, it's still his power to wield.
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I suppose that, since we have heard of certain celebrities not clearing their appearances on other shows, Bob could simply not clear his appearances on any Price Is Rights that he so chooses (like, say, the first 5,500 or so).
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'155893\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 03:24 PM\']
My question is, how much say does Bob have over the reruns, now that he stepped down? Didn't he relinquish his EP duties, or will he still have pull as a "consultant", so to speak?
Come to think of it, I thought the reruns issue was a CBS decision?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'155916\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 10:43 PM\']
The difference between reruns of MTM and reruns of TPIR are so dramatic as to make the analogy pretty weak anyway. If you want to pretend not to recognize that, you're just being obstinate. The bottom line is that Barker has the power, and whether he's acting out of malice, out of fear of embarrassment or out of a genuine and sincere believe that he's doing right by his four-legged friends, it's still his power to wield.
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Bob seems to care a LOT more about beings with four legs than he does with people with two legs. An oblivious mink is more important to him than Dian Parkinson, Holly Halstrom, Janice Pennington, Kathleen Bradley, Paul Alter and the rest of the exiled production staff, and all children. Maybe if he treated his two-legged friends with even half the respect of his four-legged friends, I and others wouldn't see him as the jerk he is.
If Bob was even half as good as Betty White, my view of him would be a LOT higher than it is now.
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'155914\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 10:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155907\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 07:03 PM\']3: Not in this day and age where fur is a shadow of what it once was. Any sensible girl cares about animals and would protest and beg for cash in lieu of the fur. Fur is a relic and when the old generation dies nobody will care about it anymore.[/quote]Those are fairly wide-sweeping generalizations that you've made, and you're in no position to make them. [/quote]
Most sensible girls in this day and age have lived in a world where fur has been a liability instead of an asset, marginalized for being a product of murder with the risk of having it being splattered by blood or paint by protesters being very imminent. In turn, they don't want fur because fur is no longer the object of luxury it once was and it's something they can do without. Ask any girl under 30 and the majority will either be against fur or apathetic towards fur.
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[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155929\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 10:12 AM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'155916\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 10:43 PM\']
The difference between reruns of MTM and reruns of TPIR are so dramatic as to make the analogy pretty weak anyway. If you want to pretend not to recognize that, you're just being obstinate. The bottom line is that Barker has the power, and whether he's acting out of malice, out of fear of embarrassment or out of a genuine and sincere believe that he's doing right by his four-legged friends, it's still his power to wield.
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Bob seems to care a LOT more about beings with four legs than he does with people with two legs. An oblivious mink is more important to him than Dian Parkinson, Holly Halstrom, Janice Pennington, Kathleen Bradley, Paul Alter and the rest of the exiled production staff, and all children. Maybe if he treated his two-legged friends with even half the respect of his four-legged friends, I and others wouldn't see him as the jerk he is.
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"...all children"? Where in the world do you get that?
In any event, few of us would disagree that Bob has treated more than a few people like dirt. But that has absolutely no relevance to whether or not his caring about animals is sincere.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'155930\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 10:35 AM\']
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155929\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 10:12 AM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'155916\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 10:43 PM\']
The difference between reruns of MTM and reruns of TPIR are so dramatic as to make the analogy pretty weak anyway. If you want to pretend not to recognize that, you're just being obstinate. The bottom line is that Barker has the power, and whether he's acting out of malice, out of fear of embarrassment or out of a genuine and sincere believe that he's doing right by his four-legged friends, it's still his power to wield.
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Bob seems to care a LOT more about beings with four legs than he does with people with two legs. An oblivious mink is more important to him than Dian Parkinson, Holly Halstrom, Janice Pennington, Kathleen Bradley, Paul Alter and the rest of the exiled production staff, and all children. Maybe if he treated his two-legged friends with even half the respect of his four-legged friends, I and others wouldn't see him as the jerk he is.
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"...all children"? Where in the world do you get that?[/quote]
A post not too long ago that cited that Bob didn't like kids, citing that he'd exile school groups to the far reaches of the audience on Truth or Consequences.
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[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155912\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 10:13 PM\']1: I never noticed the former (the first season theme sucked), but every time I've seen it the meat in the cart existed.[/quote]
That shot is a commentary on the rising cost of beef, especially for a "single girl trying to make it on her own."
A post not too long ago that cited that Bob didn't like kids, citing that he'd exile school groups to the far reaches of the audience on Truth or Consequences.
ToC pulled some contestants from the audience--why would the producers stick a group of ineligible people in such a valuable spot if they can't even play?
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[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155931\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 10:39 AM\']A post not too long ago that cited that Bob didn't like kids, citing that he'd exile school groups to the far reaches of the audience on Truth or Consequences.[/quote]
Underage and potentially restless and distracting audience members are asked to sit in the back at the taping of a TV show, and therefore Bob Barker doesn't like kids? Man.
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[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155931\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 10:39 AM\']
A post not too long ago that cited that Bob didn't like kids, citing that he'd exile school groups to the far reaches of the audience on Truth or Consequences.
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26 weeks of hosting "The Family Game" will do that to a person.
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Do you think the horse has been beaten dead enough yet?
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'155910\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 09:32 PM\']
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155907\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 07:03 PM\']Could anyone here imagine a world without The Mary Tyler Moore Show because of...the ground beef in the grocery cart in the opening...?[/quote]
Second of all, did Bob raise a stink about old episodes that featured meat products?[/quote]
Well, GSN aired the second episode, and they had bacon in Grocery Game that day...so apparently not.
/Yeah, I know the discussion's moved past this point. Just sayin'.
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Let's just admit* that Bob Barker is a potential mass murderer who hates both kids and adults, prays to the god of spaying and neutering every night, and justifies his carnal relations with small farm animals by pretending to love all animals when he really doesn't. Satisfied?
/And by "admit" I mean "say something really outrageously false and see if anyone's sufficiently separated from reality to take it seriously"
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'155936\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 02:14 PM\']
/And by "admit" I mean "say something really outrageously false and see if anyone's sufficiently separated from reality to take it seriously"
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So, it's not true that his neighbor's dog told him to become the evil tyrant he is? ;-)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'155937\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 02:17 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'155936\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 02:14 PM\']
/And by "admit" I mean "say something really outrageously false and see if anyone's sufficiently separated from reality to take it seriously"
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So, it's not true that his neighbor's dog told him to become the evil tyrant he is? ;-)
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Bowling buddy told him.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'155939\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 11:26 AM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'155937\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 02:17 PM\']
So, it's not true that his neighbor's dog told him to become the evil tyrant he is? ;-)
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Bowling buddy told him.
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Get it right. His bowling buddy's dog.
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I can't leave you people alone for a minute, can I? :)
That said, I see that any evisceration I had locked and loaded for Scrabbleship would at this point be redundant. Well done. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'155942\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 03:02 PM\']
I can't leave you people alone for a minute, can I? :)
That said, I see that any evisceration I had locked and loaded for Scrabbleship would at this point be redundant. Well done. :)
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Mammals = Mammals
Minks = Models
Respect all creatures
Good night now!!:)
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Better late than never? You be the judge...
Most sensible girls in this day and age have lived in a world where fur has been a liability instead of an asset, marginalized for being a product of murder with the risk of having it being splattered by blood or paint by protesters being very imminent. In turn, they don't want fur because fur is no longer the object of luxury it once was and it's something they can do without. Ask any girl under 30 and the majority will either be against fur or apathetic towards fur.
You are welcome to your opinion, but you have as much right to claim that your opinion is the right one, or that "sensible girls" agree with you than I do to say that "all members of the Invision Game Show Forum should strap on a clown nose, hip waders and a Wonderbra and carry signs saying "Travis Eberle for King and Tyrant of the World." You just don't get to do that and expect to get away with it. There's a difference between legitimate discussion of principles, and then there's "I'm right, and everyone who disagrees with me is wrong" and you're in the second camp. When you acknowledge that there is another valid viewpoint, I'll happily engage in discussion.
/Oh, please. Anyone who would have his followers wearing hip waders would surely abuse whatever powers he was given. Seriously, you didn't think I'd be a good and just king, did you?
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[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155943\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 12:06 PM\']
Mammals = Mammals
Minks = Models
Respect all creatures
Good night now!!:)
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What in the bleeding hell are you talking about?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'155935\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 01:12 PM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'155910\' date=\'Jun 23 2007, 09:32 PM\']did Bob raise a stink about old episodes that featured meat products?[/quote]Well, GSN aired the second episode, and they had bacon in Grocery Game that day...so apparently not.
/Yeah, I know the discussion's moved past this point. Just sayin'.
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No, I appreciate the reply--I was genuinely curious.
Everyone else already explained what I meant before. I would add that the spelling of "gurl" was deliberate, as I think I was trying to emphasize the different attitude in giving it away as a glamorous prize. Or something. I'm not really sure.
Chris: Worst. Concentration rebus explanation. Ever.
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[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155929\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 10:12 AM\']
Most sensible girls in this day and age have lived in a world where fur has been a liability instead of an asset, marginalized for being a product of murder with the risk of having it being splattered by blood or paint by protesters being very imminent. In turn, they don't want fur because fur is no longer the object of luxury it once was and it's something they can do without. Ask any girl under 30 and the majority will either be against fur or apathetic towards fur.
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So you speak for all females under the age of 30? And you need to realize that the idea of them being sensible is your opinion alone, and not try to foist that idea on others.
And I'm pretty sure a fur coat is still a luxury, and that the expensiveness is more of a deterrent than the idea of being splattered by radical fascist bullies like those of PETA.
/PETA's HQ is literally down the street from my job.
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Back to the topic at hand, how many CBS or syndicated TPIR episodes not emceed by Bob Barker has GSN shown? What I'm getting at is, is Barker trying to convey the impression that from 1972 forward no one else emceed the show? I've heard that GSN didn't show Dennis James episodes because there were too many episodes with furs; I'm not sure I buy that. With Barker gone, will they show eps emceed by James/Kennedy/Davidson? Or with Janice/Dian/Holly?
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What I'm getting at is, is Barker trying to convey the impression that from 1972 forward no one else emceed the show?
Would it surprise me if that was the case? No.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'155953\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 07:16 PM\']
Back to the topic at hand, how many CBS or syndicated TPIR episodes not emceed by Bob Barker has GSN shown?[/quote]
GSN has shown the Kennedy syndicated episodes in the past, as well as one daytime episode in which Dennis subbed for Bob.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'155953\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 07:16 PM\']
how many CBS or syndicated TPIR episodes not emceed by Bob Barker has GSN shown? [/quote]
I think they shown at least one Dennis James daytime episode from 1974, when Bob Barker was sick and couldn't make the taping. They also shown all (I think) the Kennedy episodes as well. Nothing from the nighttime version that starred James or Barker.
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'155953\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 07:16 PM\']
I've heard that GSN didn't show Dennis James episodes because there were too many episodes with furs; I'm not sure I buy that.
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Personally, I don't buy that either, since I think there were several James episodes each season with no furs present. My theory is that Viacom (now CBS Paramount TV) still owned the tapes, and dealing with another company other than Goodson or Fremantle was too much red tape. This was also the reason why the Davidson TPIR wasn't on GSN (as they were distributed by Paramount), and neither were the Cullen $25K Pyramids (also Viacom).
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'155956\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 07:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'155953\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 07:16 PM\']
Back to the topic at hand, how many CBS or syndicated TPIR episodes not emceed by Bob Barker has GSN shown?[/quote]
GSN has shown the Kennedy syndicated episodes in the past, as well as one daytime episode in which Dennis subbed for Bob.
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Just 'cause I'm curious, does anyone know how many Kennedy episodes they aired?
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[quote name=\'rugrats1\' post=\'155957\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 06:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'155953\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 07:16 PM\']
how many CBS or syndicated TPIR episodes not emceed by Bob Barker has GSN shown? [/quote]
I think they shown at least one Dennis James daytime episode from 1974, when Bob Barker was sick and couldn't make the taping. They also shown all (I think) the Kennedy episodes as well. Nothing from the nighttime version that starred James or Barker.
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'155953\' date=\'Jun 24 2007, 07:16 PM\']
I've heard that GSN didn't show Dennis James episodes because there were too many episodes with furs; I'm not sure I buy that.
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Personally, I don't buy that either, since I think there were several James episodes each season with no furs present. My theory is that Viacom (now CBS Paramount TV) still owned the tapes, and dealing with another company other than Goodson or Fremantle was too much red tape. This was also the reason why the Davidson TPIR wasn't on GSN (as they were distributed by Paramount), and neither were the Cullen $25K Pyramids (also Viacom).
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If Goodson could license Viacom-distributed "WML?" and "Feud" to GSN, they could license Viacom-distributed "TPIR." The reason they didn't license the 1994 version is because Paramount, for some reason, owns the copyright on those shows. Every other Viacom-distributed G-T show has Fremantle (as Goodson's successor) owning the copyright on the shows (even the early syndicated "WML?" shows had to have had the copyright transferred to G-T from CBS at some point).
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This may be a foolish question, but why would GSN have *wanted* that version when they already had more episodes of the much more popular daytime version than they could ever have time to air?