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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: ChrisLambert! on May 03, 2007, 07:09:03 PM
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1. Poor planning that the "two words noone wants to hear" ("No Bingo!") include one word that, by itself, one wants to hear.
2. Why in Regis's name do they need a referee to announce there's no bingo? Wouldn't that be obvious?
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'151445\' date=\'May 3 2007, 04:09 PM\']
2. Why in Regis's name do they need a referee to announce there's no bingo? Wouldn't that be obvious?
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It looks like (and Gawd, I fervently hope this is the case, but then this is the network that passed on Poker Face in favor of Show Me Teh Shatner) the ref is being played for laughs.
Which begs the question, what the HELL are they doing using him in that context in the promo?
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I just don't see anyone watching this. To me it looks very boring.
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[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'151455\' date=\'May 3 2007, 05:56 PM\']
I just don't see anyone watching this. To me it looks very boring.
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Figured all of that out from a thirty-second flash-cut promo, did you?
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After watching (and in participating in) an episode, can you tell us if you think the program is remotely worth watching?
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[quote name=\'Timsterino\' post=\'151460\' date=\'May 3 2007, 09:09 PM\']For a short time, yes. There is an audience participation element that will make the show engaging, at least for a moment or two. I found the show entertaining but not the most brain stimulating hour of television, then again neither is Deal or No Deal.
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Exactly.
Deal or No Deal is a game that doesn't ask anything of its contestants, is based completely on luck and builds to a relatively dramatic finish. Just like bingo. I'm sure ABC powers-that-be see the similarities and are hoping to tap into the same appeal. Even my wife gets it. She said "It's not really bingo, it's like extreme bingo for kids."
Exactly.
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[quote name=\'Timsterino\' post=\'151460\' date=\'May 3 2007, 08:09 PM\']
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'151459\' date=\'May 3 2007, 09:05 PM\']
After watching (and in participating in) an episode, can you tell us if you think the program is remotely worth watching?
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For a short time, yes. There is an audience participation element that will make the show engaging, at least for a moment or two. I found the show entertaining but not the most brain stimulating hour of television, then again neither is Deal or No Deal.
I have to see how it plays out on TV because they taped the contestants out of order. I will explain more later.
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There will be two things that I think will make people watch the show, at least for a little while, if not longer -- first, the visual of the two and a half story bingo sphere -- and second, the chance to win at home as well (and by doing more than just texting a briefcase number). And hopefully you'll find the contestants and the games they're playing interesting and/or entertaining as well!
Beyond that, you'll just have to watch! :-)
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A fifty-page disclosure agreement?
What's on there--"If Audience Member reveals the outcome of any program, Producer will have the right to send Ed Sanders and a crew to his or her residence to tear the rooms apart and reclaim anything from our friends at Sears?"
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I didn't have to sign any disclosure agreement. ABC sent me a DVD of the first game. The first contestant plays a game called "The Bingo 500". All the contestant has to do is guess whether the next ball drawn will be higher or lower, press a button, and let the ball roll to the model who reads the number. If the contestant is right, the number on the ball is added to their point total. Audience members mark the number off of their card regardless. If the player gets to 500 before anyone in the audience gets a Bingo, he wins $50,000. If someone in the audience gets a Bingo, (s)he wins $5,000. In the giant hopper are a few prize balls as well. If one is drawn, the player must win the game to walk away with the prize(s). Also included are two black balls but Ed doesn't say what they do so your guess is as good as mine.
The show's horribly boring. At least when watching Deal or No Deal you can yell at morons who make dumbass decisions. All the contestant does is say the word "Higher" or "Lower" and presses a button. That's it. At least they aren't playing regular Bingo, but it's not much more exciting. The giant Bingo-plex thing isn't that impressive either, to be completely honest. The Mob panel is a lot cooler. This is literally a tall clear ball with a few tubes for the balls to enter/leave. The show isn't 100% awful, but it's just not fun whatsoever. Also, it just didn't seem like there was a true contestant. He got to talk about 5 seconds and they randomly flashed a picture of his wife and children on the screen. It seems like there's barely anyone to root for or against, and that's not good. I was also hoping they would make the bingo ref a comical figure and make it some sort of joke. Nope; he was played pretty seriously. This was the rough cut, so the editing will be better, but the game won't be. There is apparently going to be some variety of rounds, but if they are like this, it's going to get old 25 minutes into the show.
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Question: How's the pacing? Jeopardy-esque or DoND-esque?
If it's more Jeopardy-esque, and they have, say, six different bingo games in "rotation", then it'll be more bareable to watch. DoND-esque pacing and one or two games? Not good.
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It's 3 Bingo games. The first two acts of the show took up one audience game of Bingo + the Bingo 500. The pacing is rather slow. It takes about 10-15 seconds to reveal the ball, they put the total on the screen if able to, then the go through the audience. They take a bit to see if anyone has a Bingo. If not, the "Bingo Commissioner" screams "NO BINGO. PLAY ON!" The crowd screams like morons, a giant graphic goes on the screen that says "PLAY ON", and then the host cues anyone who is one away from a Bingo to stand up. It took forever. I'll count how many balls were in play, but I can't say that more than 15 balls were played by remembering the episode. I'll pop the DVD in and check again when I get back from the office.
Edit: Sorry for the double post prior to this. The forum crapped up on me.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'151811\' date=\'May 8 2007, 01:47 PM\']
Edit: Sorry for the double post prior to this. The forum crapped up on me.
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Actually, that was me. Gazpacho.
I dunno, I think they might have a winner here. The play-along-at-home thing seems much better-thought-out than I thought it was gonna be, and a LOT of people are gonna try that out. Any pacing issues, I suspect, will be edited down in post. That they're mixing it up by playing bingo-themed games with the main contestant instead of just bingo feels like it could work, and the chrome might even out any game-quality issues.
Heaping helpings of crow if I'm wrong, of course, but I'm totally willing to give this a shot with an open mind.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'151819\' date=\'May 8 2007, 05:41 PM\']
Heaping helpings of crow if I'm wrong, of course, but I'm totally willing to give this a shot with an open mind.
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So am I...but that's because I'm in a trance over that huge ball jumbler.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'151820\' date=\'May 8 2007, 02:49 PM\']
So am I...but that's because I'm in a trance over that huge ball jumbler.
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That's the chrome to which I refer. I plan to Tivo it for at least the first night based solely on that. :)
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Honestly, I think the first-to-500/get a Bingo competition is actually quite clever. It almost seems like they put a new twist on the one-vs.-the-house that everyone else uses. From that alone, it sounds like they found a way to make Bingo somewhat engaging. Will it get old? Who knows.
I'm willing to give this a chance, just off the fact that Alex mentioned three games in one show. 1 vs. 100 moves fairly well, but I don't even think they get three contestants on average.
Two questions: 1) does the first to Bingo get to play as the contestant? 2) in the event of a wrong higher/lower guess, I'm assuming the number on the ball isn't add to the contestant's point total, but they take the risk of someone getting their Bingo first.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'151823\' date=\'May 8 2007, 03:17 PM\']
Two questions: 1) does the first to Bingo get to play as the contestant?
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I would be shocked if that were the case, because it means anyone in the audience, none of whom were screened by incompetent contestant coordinators, could be the next central contestant. Those days are over.
2) in the event of a wrong higher/lower guess, I'm assuming the number on the ball isn't add to the contestant's point total, but they take the risk of someone getting their Bingo first.
Makes sense. The longer the game goes, the larger the chance of someone beating them out
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Yes, if someone guesses incorrectly, the total isn't added. I'm guessing there's going to be a variety of rounds. They only sent me the first game. If they don't have enough, though, it's going to get old very quickly. To be honest, I was bored after the first game. It didn't evoke any positive or negative emotion out of me. I don't know if contestants carry over if they win or if an audience member comes down or what happens with the black balls. They are supposed to send me the finished episode soon, so we'll see what exactly happens.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'151828\' date=\'May 8 2007, 05:36 PM\']
Yes, if someone guesses incorrectly, the total isn't added. I'm guessing there's going to be a variety of rounds. They only sent me the first game. If they don't have enough, though, it's going to get old very quickly. To be honest, I was bored after the first game. It didn't evoke any positive or negative emotion out of me. I don't know if contestants carry over if they win or if an audience member comes down or what happens with the black balls. They are supposed to send me the finished episode soon, so we'll see what exactly happens.
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There will indeed be a variety of rounds, much as TPIR has its own variety of pricing games. I'm not sure how many different games the producers finally settled on, but I'll estimate between half a dozen and a dozen different kinds of rounds that will air.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'151811\' date=\'May 8 2007, 04:47 PM\']
It's 3 Bingo games. The first two acts of the show took up one audience game of Bingo + the Bingo 500. The pacing is rather slow.[/quote]
If the audience game and the Bingo 500 were two separate occurences, then I don't think the pacing is all that slow. A round per segment is pretty good by today's standards, and even 1 per 2 segments isn't all that terrible.
Also note that Bingo isn't exactly a high-octane game to begin with. Granted 10 seconds is probably a little too long to check for Bingo, some people are slower than others.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'151918\' date=\'May 9 2007, 10:26 AM\']
If the audience game and the Bingo 500 were two separate occurences, then I don't think the pacing is all that slow. [/quote]
It's my understanding that the two games happen concurrently.
And whether or not it's slow is all gonna be in how fast they draw the balls. Now, they need to get enough balls into play such that people at home think they might have a chance to win, so I'm not sure if it's going to be a problem or not. But I don't see how you, not having seen it, can make any kind of an educated assumption about the show's pacing.
Also note that Bingo isn't exactly a high-octane game to begin with. Granted 10 seconds is probably a little too long to check for Bingo, some people are slower than others.
Considering that a lot of people can check nine cards in that amount of time (and that it's not time-dependent for the folks at home, and they will edit out studio lag to a fine paste, bet on it), no, that's not unreasonable.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'151920\' date=\'May 9 2007, 02:05 PM\']
Considering that a lot of people can check nine cards in that amount of time (and that it's not time-dependent for the folks at home, and they will edit out studio lag to a fine paste, bet on it), no, that's not unreasonable.
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My mother in her prime could do 32 cards without markers. I'm just glad she has appointment TV again.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'151929\' date=\'May 9 2007, 12:47 PM\']
My mother in her prime could do 32 cards without markers. I'm just glad she has appointment TV again.
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Did she have a big floppy hat and a metric assload of lucky charms? :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'151920\' date=\'May 9 2007, 02:05 PM\']
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'151918\' date=\'May 9 2007, 10:26 AM\']
If the audience game and the Bingo 500 were two separate occurences, then I don't think the pacing is all that slow. [/quote]
It's my understanding that the two games happen concurrently.
And whether or not it's slow is all gonna be in how fast they draw the balls. Now, they need to get enough balls into play such that people at home think they might have a chance to win, so I'm not sure if it's going to be a problem or not. But I don't see how you, not having seen it, can make any kind of an educated assumption about the show's pacing.[/quote]
If they get too many balls into play, people may turn off out of principle. ^^;
At last informal glance, a segment took anywhere between 7 and 10 minutes. From what was described about the procedure, plus some computations about how long it would take to draw 500 points, it should take about 45 seconds-1 minute per ball, which is a little slower than desired, but like I said, the game doesn't lend itself to being fast.
/My work schedule can't come soon enough
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'151937\' date=\'May 9 2007, 04:23 PM\']
Did she have a big floppy hat and a metric assload of lucky charms? :)
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Strangely no hats or charms, although the few times I ventured into the bingo hall I usually left frightened.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'151960\' date=\'May 9 2007, 07:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'151937\' date=\'May 9 2007, 04:23 PM\']
Did she have a big floppy hat and a metric assload of lucky charms? :)
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Strangely no hats or charms, although the few times I ventured into the bingo hall I usually left frightened.
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At bingo halls I seemed to win at everything BUT bingo. Pull-tabs, the special games, etc. Walked out once with over $500 without winning a single bingo game.
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Went on the ABC web site to get some info on the home viewer game, which they're calling "a seeded instant win game" to avoid gambling charges and to reflect the fact that it's a pre-taped show where the producers already know the outcome.
Cards will be available the Friday before each week's telecast and will drop off at midnight Thursday before the telecast. Each page will have three cards on it, one for each game and given color-coding (with the color names on there for people with black-and-white printers). Ed will announce before each game which card is being used.
If you get a traditional five-in-a-row bingo before each game ends, you are a winner and have from the end of the telecast in your time zone until 6 p.m. ET Monday to go to the site and claim your prize. Since I assume the cards will have an alphanumeric code on them, that will determine which prize you win.
The big home viewer prizes each week are $50,000 cash and a $10,000 Kmart gift card. Other prizes will include special ABC-themed "fantasy" prizes (trips to the sets of ABC shows, the "Dancing With the Stars" finals, etc.), along with Kmart stuff, cash and various ABC swag.
So now you know about the home viewer part.
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Here's a linky (http://\"http://abc.go.com/primetime/nationalbingonight/index?pn=prizes\") to the official Prizes page. I'll probably play along...the possibility of a free $5 KMart gift card and/or a Rascal Flatts CD free would be worth my time, I guess.
What made me lol a little bit was one of the Blue Card "drawing prizes"...a trip to New York City to visit the set of The View. I only wanna go if the Donald and Rosie are on the same show.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'152025\' date=\'May 10 2007, 01:30 PM\']
Went on the ABC web site to get some info on the home viewer game, which they're calling "a seeded instant win game"
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Well, because that's exactly what it is. On the back end, when you ask to have a card printed out, some randomizer decides whether you are one of the 50,000 winners or whatever or not (I can't remember if it's "50,000 winners" or "1 in 50,000 will win), for each of the three games. If you are, it gens you up a winning card, if you're not, it doesn't. The actual "bingo" part of it is chrome, but it's interesting chrome. There's no more gambling here than there is when you get french fries at M.C. Donald's and check to see if you got Boardwalk.
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Bump for a reminder...cards are now available for tonight's broadcast, if you plan to watch/play along.\
The BigAssed Ball Jumbler will start jumblin' at 9/8C. (see below)
/apologies if that sounds like a bad porno
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'152676\' date=\'May 18 2007, 02:36 PM\']
Bump for a reminder...cards are now available for tonight's broadcast, if you plan to watch/play along.\
The BigAssed Ball Jumbler will start jumblin' at 8/7C.
/apologies if that sounds like a bad porno
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You sure about that start time?
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He had better not be. It starts at 9
EST EDT, 8 Central.
Edit: There, Robert, ya ass. ;)
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'152679\' date=\'May 18 2007, 03:40 PM\']
He had better not be. It starts at 9 EST, 8 Central.
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That's thanks to a completely bad memory. Chad's right.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'152676\' date=\'May 18 2007, 03:36 PM\']Bump for a reminder...cards are now available for tonight's broadcast, if you plan to watch/play along.[/quote]
Cards have been available since at least Monday.
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Is there any way I can mention that it's actually 9 EDT without being an ass?
No? Well, crap.
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There you go. Big meanie.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'152724\' date=\'May 18 2007, 03:44 PM\']
Is there any way I can mention that it's actually 9 EDT without being an ass?
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Well, if it's 8 EST, then the OP was in fact correct originally, since 8 EST and 9 EDT are the same thing, right? :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'152729\' date=\'May 18 2007, 06:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'152724\' date=\'May 18 2007, 03:44 PM\']
Is there any way I can mention that it's actually 9 EDT without being an ass?
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Well, if it's 8 EST, then the OP was in fact correct originally, since 8 EST and 9 EDT are the same thing, right? :)
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I live in Indiana...cut me some slack. I could spew a time and probably be with two hours of a show.
/gotta love screwing with time zones
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In other news, according to ABC, 3 million cards were printed out for NBN before last Friday. Which begs the question we've posed about Playmania before: if ABC is making money off this venture, even if the ratings aren't that great, it would continue, right? I would have to imagine that the sponsors coughed up a good bit of money.
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Locally, I saw a spot for a Bingo hall, which I don't think had ever advertised on TV before.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'152962\' date=\'May 21 2007, 07:57 AM\']
Locally, I saw a spot for a Bingo hall, which I don't think had ever advertised on TV before.
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They did the same thing here with the local spots, for the bingo hall at the Muckleshoot. Seen tons of Muckleshoot Casino ads (have a hoot, at Muckleshoot!), but I'd never seen one specifically for the bingo.