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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: tpirfan28 on April 16, 2007, 12:18:10 PM
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Link (http://\"http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i674437445f73b54e867b485f00841a35\")
Apparently the "Price" tryouts had expiring options last Friday. The three in the topic (Steines, Hamilton, and Newton) had their options picked back up...so (apparently) those three are the final three to succeed Barker.
Thoughts? Opinions? Go Todd.
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If by "Go Todd" you mean "Go Todd, go as far away from the Price studios as you can", then yes, "Go Todd". None are exactly making me overjoyed, but I suppose Steines could do well. He doesn't make me want to claw my eyes out at least. I really don't know about Hamilton, positively or negatively, so I'm staying clear of him for a bit.
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YES! Todd's still in the running.
I've seen the live show several times, and knowing his personality, hosting style and just listening to contestants, Todd is the best bar none. He represents the first in the new generation of hosts, and I would be so excited to see him get the job. (Now if only the new generation would be allowed to grow with more shows... but that's another story.)
The others, I'm not so sure about. Hamilton, I could see it working well, cuz he knows how to have fun, especially after Dancing. But the age thing bothers me. And Steines... I'm not sure. I'm just so scared of his being another Billy Bush debacle. Granted, Billy was saddled with the worst incarnation of Deal known to man, but even then, I didn't feel completely inspired.
The one thing I'm surprised in throughout this whole process is that Marc Summers wasn't considered for an audition. He was excellent in the live show, even a better conversationalist than Todd. He was easily my #2 choice. Ah well.
So bottom line, my vote remains with Todd.
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I'm supporting Steines myself, since he's from my state of Iowa! :-)
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'150280\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 11:18 AM\']
Thoughts? Opinions? Go Todd.
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YES! Todd's still in the running.
Any particular reason you guys are rooting so hard for Todd? My opinion is he would be the worst of the three mentioned, and I don't even know who this Steines guy is.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'150288\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 03:52 PM\']
Any particular reason you guys are rooting so hard for Todd?
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I think Brian explained his rooting pretty well: He's seen Todd do the live show and was impressed. That seems a reasonable enough explanation to me.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'150288\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 02:52 PM\']
I don't even know who this Steines guy is.
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He's from ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'150288\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 03:52 PM\']
Any particular reason you guys are rooting so hard for Todd? My opinion is he would be the worst of the three mentioned, and I don't even know who this Steines guy is.
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Experience. He has it...the other's don't. And I think Hamilton is too old (quick turnover).
Kinda disappointed my personal choice of David Ruprecht wasn't picked to audition.
For some reason, I would have LOVED to see Dave Price's reaction to this news.
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I think they should go for George and Todd to co-host; George doing the one-bid and Todd the pricing games, then Todd can ease into both jobs after George has his fill of it. This probably shouldn't be a consideration but, how tall is Todd?
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'150287\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 02:18 PM\']
I'm supporting Steines myself, since he's from my state of Iowa! :-)
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I didn't know Steines is a fellow Iowa native. I'll have to check him out more closely on "ET"--a show he might do well to leave if he gets the TPIR hosting job, since about half the content now is Anna Nicole/Dannilynn-based and most Hollywood veteran deaths are pretty much ignored, plus there's that occasional nonsense with the 'toon M&Ms, etc. If Don Ho doesn't warrant a mention by these folks tonight, I hope they hear from a lot of PO'd Hawaii residents.
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[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'150297\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 03:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'150287\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 02:18 PM\']
I'm supporting Steines myself, since he's from my state of Iowa! :-)
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I didn't know Steines is a fellow Iowa native.
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Here's the proof, he's from Dubuque!:
http://www.etonline.com/about/bio/47532/index.html (http://\"http://www.etonline.com/about/bio/47532/index.html\")
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Oh, he's from DUBUQUE! That changes everything...
(remembering the first time I went through Dubuque on U.S. 20 and driving under a pedestrian bridge with the city's slogan at the time: "DUBUQUE: A PLACE TO LIVE.")
Talk about low expectations.
(wouldn't mind Newton if he's the Hollywood Showdown Newton, not the W!: TANPYL newton.)
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'150300\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 04:12 PM\']
Oh, he's from DUBUQUE! That changes everything...
(remembering the first time I went through Dubuque on U.S. 20 and driving under a pedestrian bridge with the city's slogan at the time: "DUBUQUE: A PLACE TO LIVE.")
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My former boss used to say IOWA stood for Idiots Out Wandering Around. And he lived there. Hmmm...
I'd definitely like to see Todd Newton get the job. He always seemed to have excellent rapport with the contestants on Powerball Instant Millionaire, rooting them on and what not. If you look at George Hamilton long enough he looks more than a little like Bob Barker. As for Mr. Steines, I recognize him but rarely watch ET.
Matt
Nebraska: the Good Life!
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If I had my pick of these three, I would have to say Todd would be my favorite. Only because he's been around the genre for the last 5 or so years, and from first hand accounts from people here who've seen him in action as audience memebers, to colleagues such as Randy West who've on numerous occasions in this forum gave Todd a glowing review...it shows me that Todd has the respect for the past and the drive for the future that could make him a revered emcee many years from now. All George Hamilton has going for him is his endless tan and a lifetime supply of Ritz Chips, and for Mark Steines...who the hell is he again?
As far as the Barker Replacement Sweepstakes goes:
You know...I really don't mean to be sour, but I really could give a s*** who succeeds Bob anymore.
I've been watching this whole thing unfold for how many years now between here and "the board that shall not be named" , and I've come to this simple conclusion....
For those of us fans who are "Old School" emcee lovers, no matter who CBS/Fremantle picks, we're still going to whine, bitch, and complain about who would have been better suited for the job and how TPIR is going to be a funeral waiting to happen.
For those of us fans who are "New School" emcee groupees, who have only limited knowledge about the "golden era" of game shows, and outside of Bob have no idea of who Kennedy, Narz, Lange, Martindale, and a host of others are, but may have grew up on the likes of Marc Summers and J.D. Roth. We'll always remember Bob, and hope that the newer, younger host can in time grow into his position and succeed as well as Bob has for the past 35 years on the show.
Bottom line here is that we are ALL still going to watch because TPIR is not really about the host anymore, it's about the games that are played, and the people that play them. I've watched the show over the last 20+ years go from a pretty much Geritol and Centrum Stresstabs geared audience to an audience comprised of people of all ages, races, religions, etc. These people today all come together in hopes of a thrill, a dream, a memory, and so on. No matter who walks out of those big doors come September, we will all still be watching.
I am now done with the 20 Mule Team Borax soap box now....I'll leave it here on the side in case someone wants to launder their Grrranimals.
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[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'150309\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 06:15 PM\']
Bottom line here is that we are ALL still going to watch because TPIR is not really about the host anymore, it's about the games that are played, and the people that play them.
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And you would be wrong. I don't watch TPiR much anymore, and don't plan to in the future...maybe when they pick some decent contestants will it be worth watching again.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'150310\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 07:19 PM\']
And you would be wrong. I don't watch TPiR much anymore, and don't plan to in the future...maybe when they pick some decent contestants will it be worth watching again.
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Are you sure you're speaking of TPIR and not Deal Or No Deal??? :-)
What I would like to see in place come September is a better 'dress' code. Limit sweatshirts, T-shirts, etc... to only those found in regular clothing stores. College name attire, or tops with home cities or states could remain acceptable, but let's put an end to the "Lets Make A Deal"-type signs/pictures/sayings on fabric.
Then perhaps the contestant coordinators who are there this fall can concentrate on finding contestants with personalities rather than contestants with witty "All Hail Bob & TPIR" sayings or pictures across their chests.
If nearly every other game show out there can maintain some sort of dress code, so can Price!
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'150300\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 02:12 PM\']
(remembering the first time I went through Dubuque on U.S. 20 and driving under a pedestrian bridge with the city's slogan at the time: "DUBUQUE: A PLACE TO LIVE.")
Talk about low expectations.
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I live in North Seattle, and work in Redmond. On my commute to work each day, I pass through the city of Bothell, which has the following sign at the city limits:
BOTHELL: FOR A DAY....OR A LIFETIME
Pretty ominous.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'150314\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 08:13 PM\']
What I would like to see in place come September is a better 'dress' code. Limit sweatshirts, T-shirts, etc... to only those found in regular clothing stores. College name attire, or tops with home cities or states could remain acceptable, but let's put an end to the "Lets Make A Deal"-type signs/pictures/sayings on fabric.
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I've suggested that as well, and I definitely agree. I'd love to see the contestants dress the way they did in the mid-to-late-80s, maybe polo shirts and jeans for males (at the very least), and maybe blouses and jeans for females. Dress like you're going on a game show and not like you're going to Wal-Mart at 3 in the morning.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'150317\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 05:28 PM\']
I've suggested that as well, and I definitely agree. I'd love to see the contestants dress the way they did in the mid-to-late-80s, maybe polo shirts and jeans for males (at the very least), and maybe blouses and jeans for females. Dress like you're going on a game show and not like you're going to Wal-Mart at 3 in the morning.
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But, that said, it IS a game show, and not church.
That said, the problem is self-fixing, it doesn't require any kind of official dress code or anything like that.
The only reason the whole costume thing happened on Let's Make A Deal was because someone did it once, and got picked. I have to think that would work in the other direction, too. If the Price people don't PICK the jackbag in the Who Farted hat and the B0B R00LZ T-shirt, and start picking the person dressed in the tasteful polo & Dockers, that's gonna trickle downhill and people are gonna realize that's how you dress if you want to be on the show.
(It might also help if they figured out some kind of ticketing system that didn't require getting in line the night before, too. I'm not putting on nice clothes to sleep on the sidewalk all night, either.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'150316\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 07:23 PM\']
I live in North Seattle, and work in Redmond. On my commute to work each day, I pass through the city of Bothell, which has the following sign at the city limits:
BOTHELL: FOR A DAY....OR A LIFETIME
Pretty ominous.
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** And I'm guessing the syllabification isn't bot-hell, is it? Does it rhyme with Othello without the final 'o'?
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[quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' post=\'150282\']The one thing I'm surprised in throughout this whole process is that Marc Summers wasn't considered for an audition. He was excellent in the live show, even a better conversationalist than Todd. He was easily my #2 choice. Ah well.[/quote]
When I read that Bob Barker was retiring, I immediately thought of Marc Summers as a potential replacement (and I wasn't even aware that he'd emceed the stage show).
In addition to his ideal personality and hosting experience, I think back to how good he was at explaining the rules of the numerous physical challenges (a talent that could have been carried over to the pricing games). Additionally, an entire generation of game show fans (now within an age range that's highly desirable to advertisers) grew up watching Marc host Double Dare. That familiarity could have been a major asset.
I also immediately thought of Todd Newton, however, and I hope that he lands the gig.
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I personally rooted for Marc Summers to get the job, mainly for one reason: If he could recognize all those obstacles---allegedly without cue cards-----then he could easily learn all the pricing games. I will say, though, that I haven't seen him do the stage show, so I really have no other reference to work from.
Todd would have been my other choice, and as the one who lives 45 miles north of me said, if we can get "HoSho Todd" instead of "Whammy! Todd", he could be a pretty good choice indeed.
I can't say anything about Steines, but I have to be honest----I could see The Toasted One having some potential if he gets chosen.
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I know Marc used cue cards to explain the rules of DD, as evidenced in one episode where he explains the rules, then walks to the cue card guy, tearing up the cards and proclaiming "I do not need these anymore!"
It would be ideal if the new host was announced on one of the upcoming primetime shows (most likely the Million Dollar one) If that's the case, I'm sure that whomever on here might be lucky enough to attend one of those tapings will find it VERY hard to remain silent as to who got the gig.
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Won't matter. It'll be on G-R.net in twelve seconds.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'150322\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 05:45 PM\']The only reason the whole costume thing happened on Let's Make A Deal was because someone did it once, and got picked. I have to think that would work in the other direction, too. If the Price people don't PICK the jackbag in the Who Farted hat and the B0B R00LZ T-shirt, and start picking the person dressed in the tasteful polo & Dockers, that's gonna trickle downhill and people are gonna realize that's how you dress if you want to be on the show.[/quote]Sometimes I wonder about that. I figure if the whole group is trying to get the show done as quickly as possible, they would pick nine random people from the crowd and Stan could go write the showcase skit or come up with another trip cue. It would be no worse than most of the contestant lineups he picks.
But apparently they actually do some sort of "test" in the line, even though it's only a few sentences worth of conversation. So, what criteria are they using to pick their contestants? There's been more than one show I remember where all nine contestants had some sort of homemade homage shirt, and they're no better or worse players than anyone else. So obviously, that "test" isn't doing anything but taking up time.
I'm not even sure what my point was anymore. I suppose, like most of the show, if they wanted quality, they could accomplish that goal with a minimal increase in effort. That they aren't just shows that the people in charge want to get the show in the can and go home.
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Again, I must post the Barker-Steines connection...
He soon moved to KSPR-TV in Springfield, MO, where he served as sports anchor from 1988 to 1991
Mark Steines in Springfield, MO (http://\"http://www.stevetommey.com/ksprtv/steines.jpg\")
Wouldn't it be nice if Bob's replacement cut his teeth in the same place he did? :)
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One question.
If Mark Steines does get the job, will he wait until it is officially announced to comment, or will he announce it on Entertainement Tonight?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'150340\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 03:14 AM\']
Sometimes I wonder about that. I figure if the whole group is trying to get the show done as quickly as possible, they would pick nine random people from the crowd and Stan could go write the showcase skit or come up with another trip cue. It would be no worse than most of the contestant lineups he picks.
But apparently they actually do some sort of "test" in the line, even though it's only a few sentences worth of conversation. So, what criteria are they using to pick their contestants? [/quote]
Not sure of the exact "test" they are doing in qualifying potential contestants, but it's a safe assumption that one aspect is which person out of the group of 20 UCLA students will represent their group as a contestant. This is to assure that of the 300 or so eligible audience members (or those who want to be in the contestant pool), a 'group' is not represented by more than one contestant.
If they were to make more of a random selection of audience members, I would think they would keep the group restrictions intact.
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[quote name=\'trustno1\' post=\'150345\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 01:23 AM\']
One question.
If Mark Steines does get the job, will he wait until it is officially announced to comment, or will he announce it on Entertainement Tonight?
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Now, why do you think he would jeopardize his newfound employment windfall by announcing ANYTHING before his employers cleared him to?
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[quote name=\'mcsittel\' post=\'150323\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 06:02 PM\']
** And I'm guessing the syllabification isn't bot-hell, is it? Does it rhyme with Othello without the final 'o'?
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Depends on how you pronounce Othello. :) If you stress the O in front, "Oh" then "thello", the answer is no.
It's both-ell, with the "both" part pronounced like the beginning of bought rather than the word both, and the ell part is more like the ending of legal than the letter L.
As to the hosts, I thought it was a joke when I read George Hamilton. I mean seriously, do they want to be doing another host search in a couple of years?
Never seen Steines in my life, so have nothing to say about him. Sure he would be fine, if he made it this far. I'd tend to go with the guy with previous hosting experience.
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The irony (or coincidence?) is that Bob Goen left ET to do game shows and his replacement Mr. Steines may have to do the same.
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I too was rooting for Summers as he started at CBS as a page. For him it would have been like coming full circle as he paged for TPIR and MG, so he saw both Rayburn and Barker in their prime doing their thing.
Newton does have the game show experience on his side, along with the fact that he has not only hosted other game shows, but also the live show, and has also hosted the DVD version of the game....it really sort of puts him in the lead as far as actual hands-on contact with the show.
No slights to Steinnes and Hamilton, but I think Newton may be our new host.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'150359\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 09:02 AM\']
The irony (or coincidence?) is that Bob Goen left ET to do game shows and his replacement Mr. Steines may have to do the same.
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It would only be ironic if Goen went back to ET. It's coincidental, if anything.
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Lookie, Lookie.... (http://\"http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/17/john-ohurley-come-on-down/\")TMZ.com reports that John O'Hurley is the "front runner" for the job.
<sarcasm mode off>
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'150377\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 02:23 PM\']
Lookie, Lookie.... (http://\"http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/17/john-ohurley-come-on-down/\")TMZ.com reports that John O'Hurley is the "front runner" for the job.
<sarcasm mode off>
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.............Aaaaaand they updated to say that O'Hurley loves doing Feud, "hated" doing Price and would only take it if they offered a ton of money. And then tried to back it up by saying that this is a ploy to drive down the contracts for Steines and Newton. Love them internets!
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'150381\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 03:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'150377\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 02:23 PM\']
Lookie, Lookie.... (http://\"http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/17/john-ohurley-come-on-down/\")TMZ.com reports that John O'Hurley is the "front runner" for the job.
<sarcasm mode off>
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.............Aaaaaand they updated to say that O'Hurley loves doing Feud, "hated" doing Price and would only take it if they offered a ton of money. And then tried to back it up by saying that this is a ploy to drive down the contracts for Steines and Newton. Love them internets!
Tyshaun
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They did an update to an update saying that O'Hurley didn't hate Price because he never hosted it.
Oh my aching head.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'150391\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 04:27 PM\']
[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'150381\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 03:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'150377\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 02:23 PM\']
Lookie, Lookie.... (http://\"http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/17/john-ohurley-come-on-down/\")TMZ.com reports that John O'Hurley is the "front runner" for the job.
<sarcasm mode off>
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.............Aaaaaand they updated to say that O'Hurley loves doing Feud, "hated" doing Price and would only take it if they offered a ton of money. And then tried to back it up by saying that this is a ploy to drive down the contracts for Steines and Newton. Love them internets!
Tyshaun
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They did an update to an update saying that O'Hurley didn't hate Price because he never hosted it.
Oh my aching head.
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I have tix to see Todd Newton today in Las Vegas!!!! I can't wait! My vote is for Todd.
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[quote name=\'David Levy\' post=\'150325\' date=\'Apr 16 2007, 08:20 PM\']In addition to his ideal personality and hosting experience, I think back to how good he was at explaining the rules of the numerous physical challenges (a talent that could have been carried over to the pricing games). Additionally, an entire generation of game show fans (now within an age range that's highly desirable to advertisers) grew up watching Marc host Double Dare. That familiarity could have been a major asset.[/quote]Funny you should mention that, I too was always fascinated at how well Marc Summers was at explaining the rules of all the physical challenges. At first he held a card that seemed to have the information on it, but he rarely even looked down at it. I'd love to hear him explain some of the pricing games. And I'd definitely root him on if he was still in the running, but my vote has to go to Todd. Again, non-Whammy! Todd. Powerball Todd or Hollywood Showdown Todd. Not screaming, jumping up and down, foaming at the mouth Todd.
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'150340\' date=\'Apr 17 2007, 02:14 AM\']But apparently they actually do some sort of "test" in the line, even though it's only a few sentences worth of conversation. So, what criteria are they using to pick their contestants? There's been more than one show I remember where all nine contestants had some sort of homemade homage shirt, and they're no better or worse players than anyone else. So obviously, that "test" isn't doing anything but taking up time.[/quote]I always wondered this as well. And it's no wonder more than half the people I talk to don't even know how the selection process works. Who can blame them for thinking it's a random selection when half the people called up on stage have no idea what they're doing? (See this woman (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxS7sDUnmTI\").) I was always under the impression that people were interviewed and selected based on how well they played the game. When I tell people I'm going to the show in May they either think it's a random selection or think I've taken a test or something to qualify and that I'm actually going to be a contestant. Here's an excerpt from the article titled "The Guide to Visiting TPiR (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=10\")" over at G-R.net...
The pages will gather the audience members into small groups of about ten people or so. Each group then stands in front of the two contestant coordinators. In turn, each person has about ten or fifteen seconds to be the best they can be while one of the contestant coordinators speaks directly to them. If the contestant coordinators like you, then they'll write your number down on their clipboard. If they don't like you, then they'll write your number down on another part of the clipboard.
So, according to this person, it's just whether or not they like your personality. I agree though, I'd say either streamline the process including a way to find contestants that know what they're doing, or just make it a random selection. Granted, what they've been doing the last 35 years has worked, but that was with Barker at the helm. Maybe with the focus of the show changing mainly from the host to the contestants (like it already has been for some time now) it's time for a change.
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And apparently, in the Phiadelphia Inquirer yesterday, it is stated the O'hurley and Hamilton are the front runners. See the article here. (http://\"http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20070421_Dave_on_Demand___Stepping_down__stepping_up.html\")
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[quote name=\'Card Shark\' post=\'150726\' date=\'Apr 22 2007, 08:17 AM\']
And apparently, in the Phiadelphia Inquirer yesterday, it is stated the O'hurley and Hamilton are the front runners. See the article here. (http://\"http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20070421_Dave_on_Demand___Stepping_down__stepping_up.html\")
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That was more of an wry commentary piece than an article, but the rhetorical question remains: If you had to have been on "Dancing with the Stars" to be considered, where's Tom Bergeron?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'150727\' date=\'Apr 22 2007, 07:35 AM\'] If you had to have been on "Dancing with the Stars" to be considered, where's Tom Bergeron? [/quote]
Even though it's rhetorical, I'm answering it:
He's probably stuck in a contract with ABC/Disney (remember, he does AFV, too).
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[quote name=\'WhammyPower\' post=\'150729\' date=\'Apr 22 2007, 08:41 AM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'150727\' date=\'Apr 22 2007, 07:35 AM\'] If you had to have been on "Dancing with the Stars" to be considered, where's Tom Bergeron? [/quote]
Even though it's rhetorical, I'm answering it:
He's probably stuck in a contract with ABC/Disney (remember, he does AFV, too).
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Well, in that case, I'd be willing to watch TPIR on ABC again to make it happen. I switched in '63, I can switch in '07.
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Had Tom been in contention right now it would have been a no-brainer who should host.
The previous poster had a good point how Todd has experience on his side.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'150738\' date=\'Apr 22 2007, 04:38 PM\']
Had Tom been in contention right now it would have been a no-brainer who should host.
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Considering the apparent lack of brains the people at CBS currently have when it comes to TPIR (re: Rich Fields), I doubt that Bergeron would have gotten said job regardless of whether he was the best possible candidate.
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IIRC, H2 was done in the same studio as TPIR, so it's not like Tom is unfamiliar with the surroundings. H2 was also on the CBS O&O's so the suits know who he is.