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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Ian Wallis on March 01, 2007, 09:01:31 AM
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For most of us, the rose seems to have come off the thorn for Deal or No Deal a while back, but I'm wondering how many people here actually still make a point of watching it regularly?
I was trying to catch pretty well every episode up until a month or so ago, but I've hardly watched it since and I haven't really missed it.
I'll still watch it if I happen to catch it, or a promo looks interesting, but it's not "appointment television" any more.
Anyone else?
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I just got a TV at my office in work so I don't sit in silence, and I'm able to watch the Monday episodes again if I care to. At the beginning of this season, I watched it pretty frequently (this was before I got my new job). It was getting a lot better about dumping the constant needless surprises and stunts, but this sweeps period was just awful, and I am basically done with it. I don't miss an episode of 1VS100 if I'm not out with people by that time; that show is appointment television for me, but in regards to DoND, whatever. To me, it's just a buffer before Heroes now if I've already seen Daily Show/Colbert Report for that day.
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I'm pretty much the same way.
When it was first on, I wouldn't miss it for anything. Then I would only watch the last 10 minutes or so.
Once they started bringing in these special guests, surprise family members, and more importantly, consistent obnoxious contestants, that was it for me.
I sampled a bit of 1 vs. 100, and really didn't care much for it. Audience screaming and applauding at everything really lost it for me. I don't care how good the game is, if the audience goes wacky for everything, I can't watch.
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I like to support a show when it is first starting out, or if it is in danger of being cancelled. After I know it is here to stay, I pretty much stop watching. Usually only in the company of others do I watch established shows. I haven't watched WOF in 20 years or so.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'147241\' date=\'Mar 1 2007, 10:01 AM\']
For most of us, the rose seems to have come off the thorn for Deal or No Deal a while back, but I'm wondering how many people here actually still make a point of watching it regularly?
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I do watch it regularly, but I've found I enjoy it far more on Tivo's "one arrow fast forward" setting. Near the end of the game, I might watch it at regular speed.
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DoND is like TPiR for me...I can watch an hour long episode off the DVR in about 5-7 minutes. Play at regular speed for the exciting parts. Since the NBC promos pretty much give away the outcome of the show 75% of the time, I don't feel a need to watch.
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Interesting thread, Ian.
I have made sure to watch all of the Canuck deal episodes because for some reason it's engaging to watch people from my country play for the money, and there is a more "homey" feel to it. I enjoy the audience as they really get into it.
And I watch the Quebecoise version (Le Banquier) when I'm around. Interesting point to note: they play two episodes (wed-thurs) and almost always get through three players exactly.
As for the US version though, nope.
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If I'm ever in the mood, I grab an ep of the Australian edition off the intarweb. Howie's? Nope.
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[quote name=\'curtking\' post=\'147246\' date=\'Mar 1 2007, 10:30 AM\']I do watch it regularly, but I've found I enjoy it far more on Tivo's "one arrow fast forward" setting. Near the end of the game, I might watch it at regular speed.[/quote]
I'll even do two-arrow a lot of the time. I'll stop if there's some oddball thing happening (unlike a lot of you, I get a kick out of what weird things they'll come up with) and I'll watch in regular speed if there's big money left at the end. It's still on my season pass, though I don't end up seeing every episode, and I'll cancel it for the smallest thing (Foxworthy's show Wednesday, for example).
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Our newsroom has TVs on both sides of the room, all on the local stations, so it's hard for me not to see what's going on. I occasionally watch to see what oddball stunt they've come up with, but for the most part, I'll get an occasional glance, shrug, and go back to what I was doing.
The stunts, obnoxious manufactured contestants, even more obnoxious peanut gallery, and even more obnoxious audience turned me away from this show. As for 1 vs. 100, the applauding every decision is dumb, esp. when you know when the contestant has chosen a wrong answer. As much as I hate cheering for everything (on any TV show), I can tolerate it on 1 vs. 100.
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I record it for the most part, but if I miss an episode because there are other things I have to record, it's no big deal. Maybe because it's starting to swerve into overkill territory or because I forget it's on occasionally, I haven't really watched lately.
Telemundo's "Vas O No Vas", however, I try to catch. My lackluster Spanish aside, I enjoy the question round and the host's outgoing personality. Yeah, others might watch for the Bomboletz, and that's okay too.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'147250\' date=\'Mar 1 2007, 11:37 AM\']
If I'm ever in the mood, I grab an ep of the Australian edition off the intarweb. Howie's? Nope.
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What's the Aussie BitTorrent site?
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I'm still looking at every episode, but I have to admit that it's become more of a chore--especially with stunts like having the choir singing the "Tater Cake" song the other night--which wasn't really a song!
At least most nights, if I don't fall asleep, there's usually "J!" to cleanse my palate on the DVR. One can quibble about the minor tweaks in recent years, but it's still Old Dependable for me.
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Usually only in the company of others do I watch established shows. I haven't watched WOF in 20 years or so.
I'm the same way. During the '80s, I watched Wheel and Jeopardy almost every night, but in the past 20 years I've rarely watched. I'll still catch it on occasion, such as season premieres, double dollars or a 74-game winning streak; but WWTBAM is on at 7 where I live, and for me that takes priority over Wheel.
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haven't watched in months. I will still grab a UK version on the internet from time to time.
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[quote name=\'pianogeek\' post=\'147269\' date=\'Mar 1 2007, 02:19 PM\']
What's the Aussie BitTorrent site?
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diwana.org.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'147247\' date=\'Mar 1 2007, 10:41 AM\']
DoND is like TPiR for me...I can watch an hour long episode off the DVR in about 5-7 minutes. Play at regular speed for the exciting parts. Since the NBC promos pretty much give away the outcome of the show 75% of the time, I don't feel a need to watch.
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You summed it up there. The NBC version has now got too much hype, people screeching and not concentrating on the game. Also I detest what I call "the subs bench". We only have one supporter sitting in the audience (two at most) for the games here. Plus Noel hates supporters who take over the contestant and control the game.
Also its a spoiler free zone on Channel 4 as well.
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[quote name=\'TravisP\' post=\'147341\' date=\'Mar 2 2007, 06:26 PM\']
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'147247\' date=\'Mar 1 2007, 10:41 AM\']
DoND is like TPiR for me...I can watch an hour long episode off the DVR in about 5-7 minutes. Play at regular speed for the exciting parts. Since the NBC promos pretty much give away the outcome of the show 75% of the time, I don't feel a need to watch.
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You summed it up there. The NBC version has now got too much hype, people screeching and not concentrating on the game. Also I detest what I call "the subs bench". We only have one supporter sitting in the audience (two at most) for the games here. Plus Noel hates supporters who take over the contestant and control the game.
Also its a spoiler free zone on Channel 4 as well.
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Gee, isn't America great?
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'147241\' date=\'Mar 1 2007, 09:01 AM\']
For most of us, the rose seems to have come off the thorn for Deal or No Deal a while back, but I'm wondering how many people here actually still make a point of watching it regularly?
I was trying to catch pretty well every episode up until a month or so ago, but I've hardly watched it since and I haven't really missed it.
I'll still watch it if I happen to catch it, or a promo looks interesting, but it's not "appointment television" any more.
Anyone else?
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I used to have my DVR set up to tape the series. I got rid of it several months back. With a new baby, I don't have time to watch a lot of tv. I lost interest in the overexposure of the show. I am sure that because of this, Endemol execs haven't been able to stop their tears :)
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Gee, isn't America great?
Other game shows I have seen in the past and present have been fine, but I find Deal where they have gone "over the top" in their presentation, also their countless gimmicks and changes to the game board hasn't help. Okay, we do have the occasional gimmick (and countless puns), where The Banker & Noel pokes fun at a contestant. Other that that, its mostly concentrating on the game.
We've had more games than NBC though, it will be our 400th this Monday.
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It's not really interesting drama for me anymore. Entertaining myself by trying to guess the offers doesn't even work anymore. The contestants are interchangeable and rarely memorable, despite the producers' attempts to make every single game seem like the BEST. THING. EVER.
At this point, it's more entertaining to predict/make fun of the direction of the show when I watch it than to actually pay attention to the game. For example, did you know that you could swap the supporters' bench introductions with MXC "contestant" "introductions" and not tell the difference?
Reading the Bother's Bar UK Deal summaries at lunch has become practically a daily ritual (and I'll come back and watch the more interesting episodes). I really don't feel that broken up over missing our version.
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How can anybody be interested in the show when NBC sucks the drama out of the following episode by spoiling it during the credits or commercial breaks on other NBC shows? Despite that, my TiVo snags every episode. If NBC didn't ruin the outcome of the game, I'll take my time to watch it. Otherwise, I'll triple fast forward to the end of the offer which NBC spoiled.
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In the last few episodes, I was starting to get interested when the first and second offers were actually interesting sums of money, as least in terms of the relative payoffs. I still have major problems with someone being offered $80,000 for opening the right six cases, but it's an improvement over the "Your offer is $14,000." "No deal!" <thunk!> that we get every other episode.
I think there are two fundamental problems with the show: one that can't be fixed, one that the producers choose to not fix. First is the insanely top-heavy money tree that guarantees $100,000 or more will be offered to all but the unluckiest players. In this, the producers shot their wad early by sticking to the board that they have. I wonder how many Average Viewers would notice if the $400,000 spot was replaced by $2, but I would be willing to say that almost everyone would notice if the top values were cut to 50-100-200-500k, then the million, and scaling back of the middle values as well.
Second, as we know, is the contestants, and as long as the show remains fresh in the public consciousness, we're going to have a circus two times a week.
To go back to the original question, I will listen to the episodes on my radio if I'm at work and the signal comes in properly. If not, it's no big loss. If I had a Tivo, I'd probably two-arrow until the rounds of open-offer-open-offer, and then probably single-arrow through the rest.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'147394\' date=\'Mar 3 2007, 08:33 PM\']
but I would be willing to say that almost everyone would notice if the top values were cut to 50-100-200-500k, then the million, and scaling back of the middle values as well.
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And that doesn't fix the problem, which is that as long as that million exists, it's going to inflate the hell out of the payouts.
Mind you, it's obvious that NBC doesn't find this to be a problem.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'147397\' date=\'Mar 4 2007, 04:57 AM\']
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'147394\' date=\'Mar 3 2007, 08:33 PM\']
but I would be willing to say that almost everyone would notice if the top values were cut to 50-100-200-500k, then the million, and scaling back of the middle values as well.
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And that doesn't fix the problem, which is that as long as that million exists, it's going to inflate the hell out of the payouts.
Mind you, it's obvious that NBC doesn't find this to be a problem.
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I don't see why that's a problem, the game is essentially Big Money Chicken after all, the game doesn't seem to work very well unless your top value is a very large jump to the one before. It's the $750,000 that ruins it really.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'147397\' date=\'Mar 3 2007, 11:57 PM\']And that doesn't fix the problem, which is that as long as that million exists, it's going to inflate the hell out of the payouts.
Mind you, it's obvious that NBC doesn't find this to be a problem.[/quote]
I'd respond with "My, but spending other people's money is fun!" but this is the reverse... "My, but saving NBC's money is fun!" doesn't have the same emphasis. ;-)
I agree with Mr. Brig about the $750,000 being a square peg in a circle hole. Put $2500 in place of the $750K and the board has a little more risk and is less top-heavy.
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I'm sure NBC is charging enough to advertisers (and eventually the advertisers are charging us) to more than cover the expenses. So in a sense, it is our money they are spending. My, NBC spending our money is fun!
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It's an occasional watch for me, but what I don't like about the show has already been mentioned: top-heavy board, over-the-top contestants, surprises/gimmicks for every contestant, games going ungodly long...
If they fixed the board, ditched the surprises and tightened up gameplay (you should be able to get 2 games in, not one, in an hour's time), you'd have a better experience. And it would make more sense to have the rooting section introduced before the game starts, not after the second (or was it third?) deal offer.
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Count me in with the "Used to Watch It/Tivo It Faithfully" crowd.
I cannot even recall the last time I watched an episode. When I do see an occasional episode, it looks like I'm watching one of those sitcom shows in which one of the major cast members goes on a game show and does everything but play the game the way normal people would.
Even if the 26 models were to wear thong bikinis from here on out on the show, I still don't think I would make it appointment TV each night that it's on because of the other annoying aspects of the show.
(However I would tape a few eps, splice out the annoying stuff and make sure I have a well stocked supply of BB&B merchandise on hand).
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[quote name=\'TonicBH\' post=\'147454\' date=\'Mar 5 2007, 05:04 AM\']
If they fixed the board, ditched the surprises and tightened up gameplay (you should be able to get 2 games in, not one, in an hour's time), you'd have a better experience. [/quote]
A quick comment: one of the Canuck Deal episodes had two full games in the hour slot and although it was a bit rushed it was a welcome one, the game flowed much nicer.
Mods: I don't think this is a spoiler as I haven't pointed to a specific episode, and they've all aired, but if you deem it to be please feel free to remove it!
R.
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So, slightly related: Last night I was at the grocery, and in the checkout line I got into a conversation with the girls in front of me about House, since the good doctor was on the cover of one of the magazines; I think it was TV Guide. The checker had never seen it, and we were extolling the virtues of the show to her.
The girls get checked out and go on their way, and I move up to the checkstand, and the checker shrugs and says "I like Deal Or No Deal, but sometimes I just can't watch it; some of those contestants just drive me UP THE WALL. They JUST WON'T SHUT UP."
So I was satisfied knowing that the idiots they cast on that show don't just piss off the hardcore fans; they piss off the average viewers too. :)
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Also given I haven't seen every single US DoND. Can anybody confirm what is the oldest player they have had as a contestant on the show so far? As I am wondering if their audition process have a age limit.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'147468\' date=\'Mar 5 2007, 01:15 PM\']
So, slightly related: Last night I was at the grocery, and in the checkout line I got into a conversation with the girls in front of me about House, since the good doctor was on the cover of one of the magazines; I think it was TV Guide. The checker had never seen it, and we were extolling the virtues of the show to her.
The girls get checked out and go on their way, and I move up to the checkstand, and the checker shrugs and says "I like Deal Or No Deal, but sometimes I just can't watch it; some of those contestants just drive me UP THE WALL. They JUST WON'T SHUT UP."
So I was satisfied knowing that the idiots they cast on that show don't just piss off the hardcore fans; they piss off the average viewers too. :)
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And just what it'll be like if the syndicated version is set up like the British and Australian versions, with future contestants replacing the models--22 to 26 annoying people! Oh, joy!
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[quote name=\'TravisP\' post=\'147475\' date=\'Mar 5 2007, 05:12 PM\']
Also given I haven't seen every single US DoND. Can anybody confirm what is the oldest player they have had as a contestant on the show so far? As I am wondering if their audition process have a age limit.
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There was an Italian contestant from a few weeks ago that appeared to be in his late-50s, if not early-60s. He reminded me a lot of the "spicy meatball" guy from the Alka Seltzer commercials.
/I can't believe I ate the whole thing!
//That's what she said!