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Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: cmjb13 on January 28, 2007, 07:55:44 AM
Per tvgameshows.net:

GSN will preview the shows in its two-hour classic block March 3 from 8-10 p.m. (ET/PT). Back-to-back episodes move into their regular time slot of 11 p.m. to 12 midnight Tuesdays through Fridays beginning March 6, replacing Match Game.

Thoughts?
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: tyshaun1 on January 28, 2007, 09:12:05 AM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'144754\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 07:55 AM\']
Per tvgameshows.net:

GSN will preview the shows in its two-hour classic block March 3 from 8-10 p.m. (ET/PT). Back-to-back episodes move into their regular time slot of 11 p.m. to 12 midnight Tuesdays through Fridays beginning March 6, replacing Match Game.

Thoughts?
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Personal feelings aside (AKA Bleccch...), I think is a good move by GSN, considering I often hear commenting about replacing the better "Al" on Home Improvement (yes I've heard several people say that Richard Karn was better) with "J. Peterman" on Seinfeld. Plus they're putting it on at a time slot I generally don't watch anyway, no skin off my hide.

Tyshaun
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on January 28, 2007, 09:26:37 AM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'144754\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 07:55 AM\']
Thoughts?
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No, it doesn't sound to me like there were many of those involved here.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: tvwxman on January 28, 2007, 09:42:46 AM
Just when I think GSN is 'getting it', they pull as dumbass move like this.

There is absolutely nothing to gain from this, unless they're going to be getting in bed with Freemantle on a more regular basis, in which case they should be picking up Ohurley's TTTT as well. Does this lay the groundwork for a "Temptation" second run in the future? Didn't they do that with Squares a few years ago?

And to the poster above who suggests there are people who believe Karn is better than OHurley as a quiz host, you have GOT to be kidding me. Karn goes down as one of the worst game show hosts ever. I'd rank him below Benirschke, Wayne, and Swann.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: tyshaun1 on January 28, 2007, 09:50:49 AM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'144757\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 09:42 AM\']
And to the poster above who suggests there are people who believe Karn is better than OHurley as a quiz host, you have GOT to be kidding me. Karn goes down as one of the worst game show hosts ever. I'd rank him below Benirschke, Wayne, and Swann.
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Seriously Matt, I've had the show on in my store a time or two since O'Hurley took over, and the first things I hear people say are "Where's Al? He was better that that guy is......." Don't get me wrong, I was as dumbfounded as you are, and a couple "you'll take first blood!" and "20-thousand-DOLLARS!" sets 'em straight, but that's what people have said (to me, anyway).
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 28, 2007, 09:57:02 AM
Isn't it interesting that they say "Where's Al?"  He couldn't get past that role, I guess.  Of course, if they said "Where's Richard?" you'd probably mistakenly assume they meant Dawson.  I'm not going to go out of my way to watch it, as GSN's prime time shows don't appeal to me, but if it gets younger numbers for GSN, bully for them.

Younger numbers=more advertisers=more money to buy library product.  Wait, maybe that equation doesn't hold water, but oh well.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: The Pyramids on January 28, 2007, 10:04:26 AM
The same source says its also going on weekend afternoons. I wonder if this means its replacing the Dawson / Combs hour on the two days I get to watch it. I feel bad for all of you 'Match Game' fans who will see it leave the nightly schedule.

O'Hurley 'Truth' or 'Feud 94' would have been a much better acquisition than this in my opinion.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: tpirfan28 on January 28, 2007, 10:56:44 AM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'144757\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 09:42 AM\']
Just when I think GSN is 'getting it', they pull as dumbass move like this.

There is absolutely nothing to gain from this, unless they're going to be getting in bed with Freemantle on a more regular basis, in which case they should be picking up Ohurley's TTTT as well. Does this lay the groundwork for a "Temptation" second run in the future? Didn't they do that with Squares a few years ago?
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As much as I want to believe this is a dumbass move on the part of GSN...I'm compelled to think not.  There are a lot of moves they could have done that would be a lot worse. (Survivor anyone?  Fear Factor?  Heck...any reality stuff?)  At least they pulled a game show.

/could have pulled "Rich List" and "Show Me the Money" and I wouldn't complain too loudly
//get "Chair" or "Chamber" and I'm done
///and I don't even have GSN
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: DoorNumberFour on January 28, 2007, 11:00:06 AM
I don't get it.

I think more people watch the 11p-12a Match Game(s) than, say, the 9a showing.

Personally, it's appointment viewing for me.

Why would there be reason to replace it with a version of Family Feud that's rather infamous for being inferior to the other versions?

Is there a demand to end the night with 2 episodes of Karn's Feud?

Why wouldn't they air this during the day?
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: gsfan85 on January 28, 2007, 11:15:33 AM
Wait a second...the night it says GSN is previewing the episodes from 8-10PM...wasn't that supposed to be the night they aired 4 Trebek Double Dare episodes?

Adam
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 28, 2007, 11:16:03 AM
I would venture a guess that GSN (and maybe cable operators) would like a prime time sked that is somewhat contemporary (produced within the last decade or so.)  If it doesn't work, they can just put it on where "Amazing Race" is now.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: PasswordPluster on January 28, 2007, 11:17:51 AM
What's even worse is the classic block that this version of Feud is occupying originally had Alex Trebek's Double Dare scheduled for 2 hours. I guess once again the viewers get cheated from a better game show to a recent show that easily could've been scheduled the week after the Trebek block.

In the case of that and in this viewers eyes, even though I've spoken positively about this version of FF, for GSN this is not a good change
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: The Pyramids on January 28, 2007, 11:33:48 AM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'144764\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 12:16 PM\']
I would venture a guess that GSN (and maybe cable operators) would like a prime time sked that is somewhat contemporary (produced within the last decade or so.)  If it doesn't work, they can just put it on where "Amazing Race" is now.
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Thats what I noticed too. In fact w/ this the line-up will be made up of shows from the last seven years from 6PM through midnight.

While I'm here I will say one nice thing abut Richard was how he was capable of creating a suspenseful final triple round from year two on. Unfortunately if they start w/ the '02 season we just revisit the awful 'one-strike-whoever has the most points at the end of the round wins' fourth round again.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: mbc793 on January 28, 2007, 01:26:32 PM
I'm scratching my head in total confusion, I still don't get it. By the looks of things however, I will never get GSN's move.  I don't know if it's confirmed by GSN or not if it is, I do not know what to say. I don't know everything; I read the sources and try and understand it. I'm going to shut up and take the ridicule.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: clemon79 on January 28, 2007, 01:35:51 PM
[quote name=\'mbc793\' post=\'144771\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 10:26 AM\']
Well that may be the case, they probably did acquire all four seasons of Karn's Family Feud.
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How do you know this?
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: mbc793 on January 28, 2007, 01:40:50 PM
To be honest..I don't know this. I read about it and I thought that meant all four seasons..now yes I don't know a lot (I admit) and I misread or misunderstood everything. So I'd take full blame for that.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: clemon79 on January 28, 2007, 01:55:26 PM
[quote name=\'mbc793\' post=\'144773\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 10:40 AM\']
To be honest..I don't know this.
[/quote]
Right. Then I'd suggest refraining from posting things you don't know.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: BrandonFG on January 28, 2007, 02:06:27 PM
They should air it in a block with the ABC version...the promos write themselves...

"See one Richard chew the fat, and then see another Richard chew the scenery! It's a full hour of Feud, next on G-S-N!"

Oh boy, GSN gets to squeeze the credits to promote another mediocre, if not, lame show. Joy.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: mbc793 on January 28, 2007, 02:10:18 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'144774\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 12:55 PM\']
[quote name=\'mbc793\' post=\'144773\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 10:40 AM\']
To be honest..I don't know this.
[/quote]
Right. Then I'd suggest refraining from posting things you don't know.
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Well clemon at the risk of further embarassment I will refrain from posting things I do not know. I will take your advice and I thank you.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: tvwxman on January 28, 2007, 04:45:05 PM
[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'144762\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 11:00 AM\']
I don't get it.

I think more people watch the 11p-12a Match Game(s) than, say, the 9a showing.

Personally, it's appointment viewing for me.
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The scary part of this is, unless i'm mistaken, GSN doesn't have a west coast feed...meaning the Karn-age airs at 8PM weeknights on the left coast.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on January 28, 2007, 04:52:26 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'144780\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 03:45 PM\']
The scary part of this is, unless i'm mistaken, GSN doesn't have a west coast feed...meaning the Karn-age airs at 8PM weeknights on the left coast.
[/quote]

Except that they do, so it won't. GSN launched the west coast feed a couple or so years ago.

(They could have picked something better to acquire, but they COULD have done worse.)
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 28, 2007, 05:26:01 PM
[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'144781\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 04:52 PM\']Except that they do, so it won't. GSN launched the west coast feed a couple or so years ago.[/quote]
However, at least one large cable operation in Burbank only offers the east coast feed to its subscribers (at least they were when I visited in December).  It's a little jarring to see Playmania at 9pm.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on January 28, 2007, 06:46:10 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'144782\' date=\'Jan 28 2007, 04:26 PM\']
  It's a little jarring to see Playmania at 9pm.
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From the couple of times I tried watching the show, it's a little jarring to watch whatever the time on the clock is...
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: JerrysFeudinAgain on January 28, 2007, 11:52:32 PM
If there's any bright side to this,at least it's not Louie's version.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: comicus on January 29, 2007, 01:47:55 AM
So, if we're led to understand correctly, then a rare, exquisite broadcast of the original Double Dare with Alex Trebek is getting bumped in favor of Flannel Feud, which will then remain part of the regular lineup.

Yup.  That did it.  That's the kick in the pants I needed to downgrade my Dish package.  Bye-bye, GSN, hello an extra $13 a month.

/we've still got Page O Clips, after all...
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: BrandonFG on January 29, 2007, 01:51:21 AM
[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'144790\' date=\'Jan 29 2007, 01:47 AM\']
/we've still got Page O Clips, after all...
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And Jamie doesn't squeeze the credits! ;-)

/I'm a purist.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Craig Karlberg on January 29, 2007, 03:27:57 AM
Somehow, GSN manages to pyll a wool over my eyes on this one.  I didn't see this move comming.  I don't mind putting Karn's Feud on at 11 PM Tuesdays-Fridays, but a preview marathon in place of the 1976 Double Dare?  I don't like it one bit.  Now I'll have to find something else to watch that night(March 3).

To Jamie:  Don't woory, the Page O' Clips will still be a place I'll fall back on to get my fill of 1970s game shows
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Ian Wallis on January 29, 2007, 08:45:41 AM
Well...I guess I don't have to rush to get GSN on a digital package just yet...
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: dad1153 on January 29, 2007, 06:24:19 PM
Although I'm sad to see the 11PM 'Match Game' hour go (its a great alternative to the local news and the lame monologues from Leno and Letterman while I wait for Jimmy Kimmel to come on) that show can actually afford to air less episodes for a while.  Four 'MG' episodes per day is a tall order for me even with a DVR.  I never warmed up to Karn's personality-free hosting style and actually liked and watched Louie's 'Feud' when he hosted (so sue me!).  I guess I might tune in once in a while when there's nothing on at 11PM.  The only good that will come of Karn's version of 'Feud' airing again is a chance for the witty posters in this forum to once again come up with creative ways of inserting that 'I'm going to... double/triple the points' gag line he became infamous for around these parts.
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Blanquepage on January 29, 2007, 07:07:23 PM
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GSN will preview the shows in its two-hour classic block March 3 from 8-10 p.m. (ET/PT).

I would maintain an attitude of total indifference if they weren't canning the Double Dare marathon in favor of this.

Did Fremantle offer these FF tapes to GSN on a freakin' library clearance sale or what?

--Jamie
Title: GSN acquires rights to Karn Family Feud
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 30, 2007, 01:39:30 AM
I don't know how stations get their programming these days, but if Karn FF is on a format compatible with what GSN runs, they wouldn't have to "convert" old tapes, as they do with the old stuff.