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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: TimK2003 on January 12, 2007, 10:23:29 AM
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Not sure of the exact terminology, but this is a question regarding the official network slides, art cards and/or stills that were used on screen for a number of different reasons:
* Technical Difficulties
* Program Pre-emption
* Promo Plug
* "We Now Join 'Hit Man' (i.e.) already in progress".
How long did each network use those all-purpose stills? I want to say that NBC used them the longest -- through the mid-80s?
And for nostalgia sake, were there any favorites or interesting stills that stood out, in your opinions?
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'143028\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 10:23 AM\']
Not sure of the exact terminology, but this is a question regarding the official network slides, art cards and/or stills that were used on screen for a number of different reasons:
* Technical Difficulties
* Program Pre-emption
* Promo Plug
* "We Now Join 'Hit Man' (i.e.) already in progress".
How long did each network use those all-purpose stills? I want to say that NBC used them the longest -- through the mid-80s?
And for nostalgia sake, were there any favorites or interesting stills that stood out, in your opinions?
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There's a picture over at Golden-Road.net with a still from the Kennedy-era "TPiR", which leads to either '85 or '86.
(It's in the Gallery->Price in the USA->Remember When?->The Hosts.)
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CBS had a terrific one, if not more, with a great cartoon of a man taking dozens of nuts and bolts out of the camera. They were a classy operation.
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Slightly off this particular topic, but...
I was watching a clip show the other day and it had the clip from MG where Gene Rayburn took to a whompin' the poor cue card guy with his own cardboard. Funny, of course, but what caught my eye was the offstage easel with the art card-singular. Never dawned on me - but of course it should have - that they would have two or three items (in this case, the art for the end-of-show parting gift plug and the ticket plug) on the same card, to save having to put new cards up with every change.
Not that it's surprising they did that, it's just that the thing finally clicked in. Which is why I'm not in TV production. (When I was a kid, I pictured a TV studio having all kinds of individual studios for each particular show it was doing - one for the news, one for the kids show, one for the Packers show, one for the noontime cooking show, one for Dialing for Dollars...never occured to my 7-year-old mind you just needed one big room and people to put up and take down sets.)
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'143035\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 10:59 AM\']
Funny, of course, but what caught my eye was the offstage easel with the art card-singular.
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I had always wondered how they did that until I saw Price for the first time in 2000. I guess I thought it was more difficult than it really was.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'143028\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 10:23 AM\']And for nostalgia sake, were there any favorites or interesting stills that stood out, in your opinions?[/quote]
I like the two I own--a Hit Man slide (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/hitmanslide.jpg\") and something I acquired off of eBay a few months back, a Wheel of Fortune art card with Chuck Woolery (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/wheelartcard.jpg\") which is very 70s. They make great desktop wallpaper (read: take it and enjoy!) until several of your students see your desktop and ask about the freaky looking guy whose name isn't Pat Sajak.
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'143081\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 07:32 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'143028\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 10:23 AM\']And for nostalgia sake, were there any favorites or interesting stills that stood out, in your opinions?[/quote]
I like the two I own--a Hit Man slide (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/hitmanslide.jpg\") and something I acquired off of eBay a few months back, a Wheel of Fortune art card with Chuck Woolery (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/wheelartcard.jpg\") which is very 70s. They make great desktop wallpaper (read: take it and enjoy!) until several of your students see your desktop and ask about the freaky looking guy whose name isn't Pat Sajak.
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As far as the "Hit Man" slide, that's EXACTLY what my original post referred to, as far as the network-produced slides go.
I can say that I have seen art cards & slides used by local stations (moreso the independent stations) all the way into the early 90's. What was WXON -- TV 20 in Detroit used to have slides/cards going into and out of most, if not all, of their breaks.
WXON had some great ones, as I recall, for Love Connection, The Newlywed Game, and Perfect Match (The Goen Version), to name a few.
If anybody has any game shows with the art cards/slides intact, link an image -- it would be pretty interesting to see how they did them in each local market.
Now as far as that Woolery card...if that picture doesn't make you think of "Naturally Stoned", I don't know what does!! That would have made one helluva picture sleeve for Chuck's one-hit-wonder 45.
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'143081\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 06:32 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'143028\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 10:23 AM\']And for nostalgia sake, were there any favorites or interesting stills that stood out, in your opinions?[/quote]
I like the two I own--a Hit Man slide (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/hitmanslide.jpg\") and something I acquired off of eBay a few months back, a Wheel of Fortune art card with Chuck Woolery (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/wheelartcard.jpg\") which is very 70s. They make great desktop wallpaper (read: take it and enjoy!) until several of your students see your desktop and ask about the freaky looking guy whose name isn't Pat Sajak.
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There's another one that I'm assuming is also an art card, that surfaced on "Naturally Stoned". It's basically Chuck holding an index card, and Wheel of Fortune is in a stereotypically-70s font (If anyone remembers the old Taco Bell logo, it was a font similar to that).
Somewhere out there in cyberspace, there's an art card from Dawson Feud, with a pic that I believe has been published in a few game show books. Judging by the "Come on Along!" graphic, I'd guess it's from the 1982 TV season...I'll look for the Feud one.
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Here you go. (http://\"http://pics.livejournal.com/jasona1/pic/0007krc3\")
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'143094\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 07:58 PM\']
Here you go. (http://\"http://pics.livejournal.com/jasona1/pic/0007krc3\")
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Indeed. Thank you.
/Gold star.
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Anybody feel like kickin' it old school?
Wish I had more...
Concentration (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/concen.jpg\")
The Price Is Right (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tpir.jpg\") (One of my favorite pix of Bill)
To Tell the Truth (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tttt.jpg\") (OK, not so old)
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On LMaD, when a TV was displayed, they usually had a card of Monty in front of a curtain, pointing at the "logo", which was printed on the card (so in other words, Monty was pointing in the air). Were any of those ever used for slides?
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Here's another one I have which I didn't mention, a very colorful Name That Tune slide from late in the Tom Kennedy run (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/namethattune.jpg\"). Again, 1024x768, perfect as desktop wallpaper.
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I just recently saw somewhere ABC's "in case of emergency" instructions for this year's Dick Clark New Year's special that made reference to them having a show title graphic ready to put on the air, just in case. I know that, at least as of a few years ago, they did have a standardized-design show title "slide" ready to go for each of their shows. Nothing fancy like the art cards in this thread -- the design I'm familiar with had the show title in white serif italic lettering over a background of repeating ABC logos. (If they are still using these, I wouldn't be surprised if they changed the design during the "yellow" era.)
I know one of those graphics did end up on the air for quite a while on October 17, 1989 -- it said "WORLD SERIES."
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Sometimes you will see those graphics on ABC's soaps when they are joined in progress with a booth announcer informing us what we missed.
Tim mentioned Ch. 20 in Detroit. I interviewed for a job there in 1988, but I didn't get it, and I'm pretty sure for the reason I'm about to describe. I answered an ad in the paper for the job and got a call to interview. The gentleman asked me to come to the station on a Wednesday at 4:30pm, which I thought was a little odd to schedule an interview on the half-hour, but hey I needed the job, so why quibble?
The first thing the guy said to me when I got to the station at 4:30 was "Ya know, you were supposed to be here at 4." Needless to say I never heard from him again.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'143102\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 09:36 PM\']
Anybody feel like kickin' it old school?
Wish I had more...
Concentration (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/concen.jpg\")
The Price Is Right (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tpir.jpg\") (One of my favorite pix of Bill)
To Tell the Truth (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tttt.jpg\") (OK, not so old)
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The Concentration one reminds me of the style of some "coming up" slides NBC used following The Nighttime Ford Show with Tennessee Ernie Ford in 1960-61..I have about 11 of these shows on VHS from the Ford Show run..One show they advertised in the slides was "Wagon Train"
The Concentration slide had to be from the Monday night Spring-Summer 1961 run..
OT (but not really) The NBC "snake" logo brings back memories..I never reaized for a long time that they ever used any other logo before the mid 70's..
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'143102\' date=\'Jan 12 2007, 09:36 PM\']
Anybody feel like kickin' it old school?
Wish I had more...
Concentration (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/concen.jpg\")
The Price Is Right (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tpir.jpg\") (One of my favorite pix of Bill)
To Tell the Truth (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tttt.jpg\") (OK, not so old)
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That last one is interesting...obviously you have Garry and the Three C's, but they had Gene Rayburn as the fourth panelist. Did they do a batch of these with other fourth-people? Was Gene considered a semi-regular by the producers, so they used him on the slide to get the idea across of "hey, we always have four people on the panel?"
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My first memory of any television is a Baffle art card.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'143125\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 04:47 AM\']My first memory of any television is a Baffle art card.[/quote]
"So that's how they get the words on the screen". My reaction at a taping of Art Fleming's J! when I saw the camera swing to an art card on an easel for "Final Jeopardy". The low-tech S&P requirements simply had the easel far enough downstage to not be visible to the contestants. But as an audience member in studio 6A, I had plenty of time to study the answer. Oh, and I asked for and have kept the card (yellow lettering on black) all these years.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'143154\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 11:34 AM\']
Oh, and I asked for and have kept the card (yellow lettering on black) all these years.
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So what's the answer? :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'143166\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 01:03 PM\']So what's the answer? :)[/quote]
You don't really want to send me rummaging through storage. But it was something like "Outside of North America, last year this country was the #1 destination for American tourists"
And the correct question was a surprise for me... I didn't think it was an obvious choice.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'143182\' date=\'Jan 14 2007, 12:01 AM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'143166\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 01:03 PM\']So what's the answer? :)[/quote]
You don't really want to send me rummaging through storage. But it was something like "Outside of North America, last year this country was the #1 destination for American tourists"
And the correct question was a surprise for me... I didn't think it was an obvious choice.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Before you start the Final J! music, and before I put my response in the form of a question, Randy, what year are we talking here? :-P
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'143183\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 08:18 PM\']Before you start the Final J! music, and before I put my response in the form of a question, Randy, what year are we talking here? :-P [/quote]
Approx 1970. I was still in my mother's womb. She sat on the aisle with her legs spread so I could see! ;-]
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'143185\' date=\'Jan 14 2007, 12:28 AM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'143183\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 08:18 PM\']Before you start the Final J! music, and before I put my response in the form of a question, Randy, what year are we talking here? :-P [/quote]
Approx 1970. I was still in my mother's womb. She sat on the aisle with her legs spread so I could see! ;-]
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So *that's* what made Don Pardo's hair turn gray overnight!!!
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OK, I found the old art card. The Final Jeopardy answer is:
"Outside of North America and Europe, the country most visited by U.S. tourists". [cue music]
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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What is Israel?
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What is China?
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What is Australia?
/It's a country AND a continent!
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'143185\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 08:28 PM\']
Approx 1970. I was still in my mother's womb. She sat on the aisle with her legs spread so I could see! ;-]
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There's a joke about widescreen televisions in here somewhere. :)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'143203\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 10:40 PM\']
What is Australia?
/It's a country AND a continent!
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And a dessert topping!
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'143201\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 10:35 PM\']
What is Israel?[/quote]
We have a wiener! A freakin' Ken Jennings! And I thought it was a tougher question than that. Nicely done!
You receive the new major Encyclopedia International from Grolier Incorporated, the source authority for the preparation of questions and answers used on Jeopardy!
Randy
tvrandywest
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Here ... http://home.earthlink.net/~crussmason/cncphot.htm (http://\"http://home.earthlink.net/~crussmason/cncphot.htm\") ... you'll find another slide for the Hugh Downs Concentration, similar but not identical to the one posted earlier.
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'143213\' date=\'Jan 14 2007, 04:23 AM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'143201\' date=\'Jan 13 2007, 10:35 PM\']
What is Israel?[/quote]
We have a wiener! A freakin' Ken Jennings! And I thought it was a tougher question than that. Nicely done!
You receive the new major Encyclopedia International from Grolier Incorporated, the source authority for the preparation of questions and answers used on Jeopardy!
Randy
tvrandywest
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Gosh, thanks. I have to admit might not have gotten it had I not been watching the show that day. :)