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Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: chad1m on December 02, 2006, 12:00:07 AM
As we all (should) know, today is the twelfth anniversary of God's gift to lovers of new Cadillacs and turtle wax, Game Show Network. I was wondering if there was a schedule floating around of what aired on the first day of broadcasting? It would be interesting to compare how different/similar it is to today. Thanks for any help!
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: ChuckNet on December 02, 2006, 12:23:17 AM
During their first day, they ran a marathon featuring an ep of every show in their library @ the time, which resulted in some rarities not seen again until the Dark Period or later (The New Treasure Hunt, BtB '76, Diamond Head, Hollywood Connection, Camouflage, Bullseye, etc.), in addition to more common stuff (Tattletales, WoF, etc.).

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 02, 2006, 01:42:49 AM
In order of airing (which appeared to be chronological by their original airdates):

What's My Line?
Beat the Clock
I've Got a Secret
To Tell the Truth
Password
The Dating Game
The Newlywed Game
The Perfect Match
All About Faces
Juvenile Jury
The Joker's Wild
The Parent Game
Match Game '73
The New Treasure Hunt
Tattletales
Now You See It
Wheel of Fortune
The Diamond Head Game
Break the Bank
The Fun Factory
Family Feud
Double Dare
Hollywood Connection
Card Sharks
Tic Tac Dough
The $1.98 Beauty Show
Jeopardy!
Celebrity Charades
Three's a Crowd
Joker! Joker! Joker!
Play the Percentages
Camouflage
Bullseye
Blockbusters
Fantasy
Child's Play
Hot Potato
Body Language
Trivia Trap
Bumper Stumpers
All About the Opposite Sex
Hold Everything
The Quiz Kids Challenge
Ruckus

Notably absent from Day One:  The Price Is Right in ANY form and The Gong Show.  The Bob Stewart library was acquired later.
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: Craig Karlberg on December 02, 2006, 03:28:24 AM
Seeing that first day line-up made me wonder why I waitec 4 years before I got GSN even on a part-time basis.  I'm curious about some of those rarities like Fantasy, All About the Opppsite Sex & Hold Everything.  The others like Diamond Head Game & Rockus I'd personally wanna forget.  Strange TPIR wasn't even considered untill they actually acquired the rights to air those shows again before they dropped them for good a few years ago.
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 02, 2006, 10:05:02 AM
[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'139326\' date=\'Dec 2 2006, 03:28 AM\'] I'm curious about some of those rarities like Fantasy, All About the Opppsite Sex & Hold Everything.  The others like Diamond Head Game & Rockus I'd personally wanna forget.  Strange TPIR wasn't even considered untill they actually acquired the rights to air those shows again before they dropped them for good a few years ago.[/quote]
I understand and appreciate your curiosity, but trust me, once you saw those other ones, you'd wanna forget them too.

Also, it's not as though TPIR "wasn't even considered".  GSN would have loved to show one of the most popular game shows of all time.  They weren't able to get the rights to it along with the other Goodson-Todman shows.
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 02, 2006, 10:23:25 AM
In response to TPiR...

Isn't that and Feud '94 on a completely separate contract?
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: PYLW on December 02, 2006, 10:59:25 AM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'139339\' date=\'Dec 2 2006, 10:23 AM\'] In response to TPiR...

Isn't that and Feud '94 on a completely separate contract? [/quote]

Correct. Question, would their be any way to make a seperate Feud '94 contract if they REALLY wanted to air it?
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: JasonA1 on December 02, 2006, 11:05:39 AM
I believe in the not-too-distant past (meaning a time when TPIR wasn't on the schedule) they ran a Dawson '94 as part of a marathon.

-Jason
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: SRIV94 on December 02, 2006, 12:22:04 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'139325\' date=\'Dec 2 2006, 12:42 AM\']
In order of airing (which appeared to be chronological by their original airdates):

Tattletales
Now You See It
Wheel of Fortune
The Diamond Head Game
Break the Bank
[/quote]
I didn't have GSN then, but I'm assuming the WoF ep shown was a syndie Sajak ep, yes?

Which would make it really out of place if GSN were trying to run the eps in chronological order.

Just an observation.  YMMV.

Doug
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: dzinkin on December 02, 2006, 12:28:19 PM
[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'139341\' date=\'Dec 2 2006, 10:59 AM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'139339\' date=\'Dec 2 2006, 10:23 AM\'] In response to TPiR...

Isn't that and Feud '94 on a completely separate contract?[/quote]Correct.
[/quote]
Not so fast.  It makes sense that Feud '94 would have had to be licensed separately because it was in first run when GSN signed on, and when GSN acquired rights to TPIR it made sense to get Feud '94 at the same time.  Who's to say that such an arrangement is still in place or necessary?
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 02, 2006, 01:25:56 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'139346\' date=\'Dec 2 2006, 12:28 PM\']
Not so fast.  It makes sense that Feud '94 would have had to be licensed separately because it was in first run when GSN signed on, and when GSN acquired rights to TPIR it made sense to get Feud '94 at the same time.  Who's to say that such an arrangement is still in place or necessary?
[/quote]
I was just referencing the past contract, becuase I remember somewhere saying that during the "Dark Period" (which I didn't see, nor did I know about GSN at the time), TPiR and Feud '94 were together on that separate contract, and didn't go bye-bye.

I'd assume that Feud '94 probably will be (or already is) part of another G-T contract renewal, unless Dawson doesn't want those shown again.
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: Blanquepage on December 02, 2006, 01:54:58 PM
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I didn't have GSN then, but I'm assuming the WoF ep shown was a syndie Sajak ep, yes?

Correct. I believe the episode on this debut marathon came from 1983.

--Jamie
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: Allstar87 on December 02, 2006, 10:02:52 PM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'139342\' date=\'Dec 2 2006, 11:05 AM\']
I believe in the not-too-distant past (meaning a time when TPIR wasn't on the schedule) they ran a Dawson '94 as part of a marathon.
[/quote]

The most recent time they showed an ep. was Halloween '04; GSN didn't even mention it was going to air, so it surprised a lot of viewers.
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: ChuckNet on December 02, 2006, 10:20:36 PM
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Correct. I believe the episode on this debut marathon came from 1983.

Yep...in fact, it was the 3rd syndie ep, which featured a rather unusual "extra wheel prize" (for the era, anyway): $500 cash, its corresponding space denoted by a single dollar sign.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 02, 2006, 11:36:43 PM
[quote name=\'cool245\' post=\'139392\' date=\'Dec 2 2006, 11:12 PM\']
Does anyone know what the first show to air after the debut marathon was?[/quote]
Match Game '73, followed by Family Feud and a Password with guest host Jack Clark.  This was their regular prime time lineup (along with other B&W classics), and with host segments and call-in games, each show ran about 40 minutes.  (Remember the promos that game the times in "-ish"?)
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: snowpeck on December 03, 2006, 12:06:12 AM
From what I can gather, as earlier stated, FF94 was not included in the original G/T package because it was still in first-run.  I assume (it makes sense) that when the contract was renewed (either at the 98 renewal or a later one) that that season was then included in the regular package.  It's just that there's not much opportunity for them to air that version.  It's admittedly the least popular of the ones they have and is it really worth it to schedule a whole hour for an unpopular version of Feud?  

Greg
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: Ian Wallis on December 03, 2006, 03:06:58 PM
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During their first day, they ran a marathon featuring an ep of every show in their library @ the time, which resulted in some rarities not seen again until the Dark Period or later (The New Treasure Hunt, BtB '76, Diamond Head, Hollywood Connection, Camouflage, Bullseye, etc.), in addition to more common stuff (Tattletales, WoF, etc.).

That's true, but that marathon was repeated in its entirety on GSN's first anniversary 12/1/95.
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: Ian Wallis on December 03, 2006, 03:15:28 PM
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Notably absent from Day One: The Price Is Right in ANY form and The Gong Show. The Bob Stewart library was acquired later.

Even though Price is Right wasn't on their original schedule, clips from it were featured in their orignal promos.  Remember "Mr Hostman"?

Also, during an early Club AM, Laura Chambers answered a letter from a viewer regarding The Gong Show, and responded by saying "...yes we do have it, but we have no plans to air it this season..."
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: aaron sica on December 03, 2006, 03:26:18 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'139428\' date=\'Dec 3 2006, 03:15 PM\']
Even though Price is Right wasn't on their original schedule, clips from it were featured in their orignal promos.  Remember "Mr Hostman"?
[/quote]

I thought I remembered something about GSN having to remove all the fur coat episodes from their library before they were able to air TPiR...
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: Ian Wallis on December 03, 2006, 03:35:50 PM
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I thought I remembered something about GSN having to remove all the fur coat episodes from their library before they were able to air TPiR...

That's exactly right...and that's probably why it didn't debut on the regular GSN schedule until Dec 1996.
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: That Don Guy on December 03, 2006, 07:09:54 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'139432\' date=\'Dec 3 2006, 03:35 PM\']
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I thought I remembered something about GSN having to remove all the fur coat episodes from their library before they were able to air TPiR...

That's exactly right...and that's probably why it didn't debut on the regular GSN schedule until Dec 1996.
[/quote]
And even then, occasionally one slipped through (almost always in a showcase, where it would have been easy to miss).

(And to whoever wanted to see Fantasy; it was a game show in name only - almost every episode consisted of people being rewarded with "fantasies" for doing good deeds in their lives and/or needing something badly.  The only game show elements I remember are (a) occasionally somebody got 30 seconds in whatever that booth that has the money being blown around inside it (like the one in the Diamond Head end game) is (in this case, I think all of the bills were $50s - and somebody grabbed over 100 of them in 30 seconds once), and (b) I might be confusing this with The Fun Factory, but didn't Fantasy have the game with the four contestants where there were four prizes, one of which was expensive, and the contestants secretly chose a prize, and won it if nobody else chose it?)

-- Don
Title: GSN's First Day?
Post by: clemon79 on December 03, 2006, 07:29:06 PM
Nope, right on the money, the Fantasy Fountain and the pick-a-unique-prize-and-win-it game were the only two regular game elements on the show.

(And the one Fountain to which you refer, they didn't really "grab" 100 of them, they were just lucky enough to have a huge glut of them fall into their bag when the thing shut down.)