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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: pyrfan on September 25, 2006, 08:24:38 PM
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What's the deal with GSN and the Nancy Lane/Robert Reed week of "Password Plus"? After skipping it at least three times during different cycles, they finally showed the first two episodes last week...only to skip the remaining three and jump to the Judy Norton-Taylor/Ron Masak week today. There shouldn't be any clearance issues; Nancy and Robert have both been shown on different games on the network. Any speculation?
While I'm on the subject, I saw some (in my opinion) bogus calls last week on those two days. In one instance, they accepted the contestant's answer of "bath" for the password BATHTUB. These are two completely different words; "bath" is not a form of "bathtub." In another instance, the contestant answered "Edward Kennedy" when the password was EDWARD. Allen Ludden asked the contestant what his answer was, and the contestant replied, "Edward," which the judge accepted. The way I see it, if they were going to have two-word passwords on the show (which is a totally separate gripe for me), then they have to accept "Edward Kennedy" as his answer, not "Edward." I know that there was no word authority on the show, but these seem like obvious errors in judgment to me. Anyone else think so?
Man, times like these, it would be great if one of our moderators used to work on "Password Plus"...
Brendan
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' post=\'132611\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 08:24 PM\']
In another instance, the contestant answered "Edward Kennedy" when the password was EDWARD. Allen Ludden asked the contestant what his answer was, and the contestant replied, "Edward," which the judge accepted. The way I see it, if they were going to have two-word passwords on the show (which is a totally separate gripe for me), then they have to accept "Edward Kennedy" as his answer, not "Edward." I know that there was no word authority on the show, but these seem like obvious errors in judgment to me. Anyone else think so?[/quote]
If I were the judge, I still would've given it to him. While there may have been a bit of extraneous information attatched, the first word out of his mouth was "Edward", which was indeed the desired word. I would've given credit and moved on.
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' post=\'132611\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 08:24 PM\']
What's the deal with GSN and the Nancy Lane/Robert Reed week of "Password Plus"? After skipping it at least three times during different cycles, they finally showed the first two episodes last week...only to skip the remaining three and jump to the Judy Norton-Taylor/Ron Masak week today. There shouldn't be any clearance issues; Nancy and Robert have both been shown on different games on the network. Any speculation?[/quote]
Synching up with the days, maybe? Monday shows airing on Monday?
Best I can tell.
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Password Plus's greatest flaw IMO was not having Dr. Stockwell or some other word authority back to keep the basic password playing of the game challenging.
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' post=\'132611\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 07:24 PM\']
What's the deal with GSN and the Nancy Lane/Robert Reed week of "Password Plus"? After skipping it at least three times during different cycles, they finally showed the first two episodes last week...only to skip the remaining three and jump to the Judy Norton-Taylor/Ron Masak week today. There shouldn't be any clearance issues; Nancy and Robert have both been shown on different games on the network. Any speculation?
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I wonder if since three eps were not shown that the tape housing those eps was unable to be converted. I seem to recall seeing that master tapes contained three eps.
As to why they aired the first two eps last week after skipping them previously, I'm not sure. Perhaps GSN's attitude this time around (assuming that those two were able to be converted and the others not) was, "We got 'em--we might as well show 'em." Speculation.
Doug
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A number questionable calls were made on P+. A word authority wouldn't have helped because he/she was only concerned with the acceptability of clues, not answers.
"Bath" is not an acceptable response when the password is "bathtub", I agree.
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Not only were the Password Plus episodes skipped, 11 episodes of Body Language were also skipped this morning. They started today with a Tuesday episode.
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[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' post=\'132626\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 09:35 PM\']
Not only were the Password Plus episodes skipped, 11 episodes of Body Language were also skipped this morning. They started today with a Tuesday episode.
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They always skip those eps. I think they skip the one week because Betty Thomas is on them. (They also skipped her "Password Plus" episodes.) For the other week, I would guess that Fern Fitzgerald didn't clear her appearances; Roger E. Mosley was the other celeb, and we've seen him a lot on GSN. Why they always skip the Monday episode of the Mary Ann Mobley/Nathan Cook week, I have no idea.
Brendan
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P+ would've avoided a lot of grief if they enforced Form-of-the-word. Plurals are okay when they're word+s, but otherwise you need the right form.
I was also not a big fan of two-word passwords.
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They always skip those eps. I think they skip the one week because Betty Thomas is on them. (They also skipped her "Password Plus" episodes.) For the other week, I would guess that Fern Fitzgerald didn't clear her appearances; Roger E. Mosley was the other celeb, and we've seen him a lot on GSN. Why they always skip the Monday episode of the Mary Ann Mobley/Nathan Cook week, I have no idea.
Doug's right in that there are three episodes per tape. I think GSN purposly skips entire tapes if there are any episodes on there that haven't been cleared, which would lead to parts of other weeks (such as the Mary Ann Mobley/Nathan Cook episode) also being skipped.
Again...speculation...but this kind of thing has happened in others instances on GSN too.
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' post=\'132638\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 11:20 PM\']
They always skip those eps. I think they skip the one week because Betty Thomas is on them. (They also skipped her "Password Plus" episodes.) [/quote]
Why would they skip her episodes? Is there a clearance issue or some other reason?
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' post=\'132638\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 12:20 AM\']
For the other week, I would guess that Fern Fitzgerald didn't clear her appearances[/quote]
Marilee Stone played Body Language? Daggone, I didn't know she made any game show appearances. Those would've been interesting to see. Wonder why she doesn't want them shown. Pity.
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Was Betty Thomas on the "Fun Factory" ep GSN showed a few years back?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'132655\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 09:13 AM\']
[quote name=\'pyrfan\' post=\'132638\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 12:20 AM\']
For the other week, I would guess that Fern Fitzgerald didn't clear her appearances[/quote]
Marilee Stone played Body Language? Daggone, I didn't know she made any game show appearances. Those would've been interesting to see. Wonder why she doesn't want them shown. Pity.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't she on the premiere week of MGHS (or some very early week)?
Not that those would ever see the light of day broadcastwise.
Doug -- and the countdown to 2300 begins
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'132658\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 07:28 AM\']
Not that those would ever see the light of day broadcastwise.
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One would think they stand at least a small chance, considering that half of the show is the Greatest Game Show Of All Time, Dammit(tm).
(Yeah, I know.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132661\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 10:13 AM\']
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'132658\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 07:28 AM\']
Not that those would ever see the light of day broadcastwise.
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One would think they stand at least a small chance, considering that half of the show is the Greatest Game Show Of All Time, Dammit(tm).
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Love the reference.
But is it urban legend that the shows were never to be rerun because Rayburn didn't want them rerun, or is that legit?
Doug -- and the countdown to 2300 continues
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Someone recently brought to light an interview with Gene from around GSN's launch where he expressed interest in having those shows rerun. Presumably, the ownership (with Orion in there, the ownership of Squares being a bit of a mess, etc) keeps it from being run again.
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And of course, lack of general viewer interest vs. costs/headache, but....
-Jason
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Was Betty Thomas on the "Fun Factory" ep GSN showed a few years back?
Good catch! She was, and I wonder if it has to do with different contracts that could have been signed at the time. Betty wasn't very well known then, and that may have been her first break into network television. By the time Hill Street Blues rolled around, she probably had different contract and higher status that gave her rights of refusal for re-airing whenever she appeared on an outside show.
It's kind of like music issues on some of Chuck Barris's shows. On the late '70s Newlywed Game, several cues are dubbed over on many of the episodes, but those same cues were heard in the clear as early as 1997 when GSN aired the '80s Treasure Hunt. It was explained to me one time that when these shows were originally produced, nobody thought that cable reruns would become a factor. By the 1980s when cable started catching on, contracts were different - that's probably why those same cues weren't dubbed over on the '80s Barris shows.
Clear as mud? :)
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'132665\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 11:43 AM\']
Someone recently brought to light an interview with Gene from around GSN's launch where he expressed interest in having those shows rerun. Presumably, the ownership (with Orion in there, the ownership of Squares being a bit of a mess, etc) keeps it from being run again.
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And of course, lack of general viewer interest vs. costs/headache, but....
-Jason
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From what I understand, the Orion library is now owned by Sony, so Sony would have to cut a deal with Sony, which as we've seen in the past is quite a hassle.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'132658\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 09:28 AM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'132655\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 09:13 AM\']
[quote name=\'pyrfan\' post=\'132638\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 12:20 AM\']
For the other week, I would guess that Fern Fitzgerald didn't clear her appearances[/quote]
Marilee Stone played Body Language? Daggone, I didn't know she made any game show appearances. Those would've been interesting to see. Wonder why she doesn't want them shown. Pity.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't she on the premiere week of MGHS (or some very early week)?
Not that those would ever see the light of day broadcastwise.
Doug -- and the countdown to 2300 begins
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Fern did MGHS three times, and her first appearance on the show is on the trading circuit. She was the center square on the Wednesday episode of that week.
Brendan
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'132670\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 11:27 AM\']
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'132665\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 11:43 AM\']
Someone recently brought to light an interview with Gene from around GSN's launch where he expressed interest in having those shows rerun. Presumably, the ownership (with Orion in there, the ownership of Squares being a bit of a mess, etc) keeps it from being run again.
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And of course, lack of general viewer interest vs. costs/headache, but....
-Jason
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From what I understand, the Orion library is now owned by Sony, so Sony would have to cut a deal with Sony, which as we've seen in the past is quite a hassle.
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Although it seems like Sony has either dropped out or is a minority player at MGM, since MGM/UA Distribution is back in business feature film-wise (after it seeming that every MGM would also have a Columbia logo). It also seems to me that MGM's TV syndication division is back in business.
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' post=\'132700\' date=\'Sep 26 2006, 06:43 PM\']
Fern did MGHS three times, and her first appearance on the show is on the trading circuit. She was the center square on the Wednesday episode of that week.
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Merilee Stone was the center square? Geez, as if Bowzer's hosting wasn't enough to kill it. . .
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And Fern Fitzgerald's Dallas co-star Ken Kercheval, who played Cliff Barnes also did MGHS. He also appeared on Pyramid, SP, Celebrity Bullseye and HS Marshall and Davidson. I think he also did P+.
Recently, Ken got arrested for drunk driving in Indiana where he was attending some Italian event. I saw it on ET. Boy, I guess Ken was playing his character when he got cuaght for DUI. Nowadays, Ken wears glasses and looks sort of like Jack Nicholson.
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[quote name=\'BobbyLankford_83\' post=\'132929\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 09:54 AM\']
Recently, Ken got arrested for drunk driving in Indiana where he was attending some Italian event. I saw it on ET. Boy, I guess Ken was playing his character when he got cuaght for DUI.[/quote]
How so? Was he blaming his troubles on the Ewings?
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[quote name=\'BobbyLankford_83\' post=\'132929\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 09:54 AM\']
Recently, Ken got arrested for drunk driving in Indiana where he was attending some Italian event. I saw it on ET.
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You mean ET covered something other than Tomcat and/or Brangelina?
/I must track down whoever coined those phrases.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'132949\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 01:05 PM\']
You mean ET covered something other than Tomcat and/or Brangelina?
/I must track down whoever coined those phrases.
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If you'd like to borrow all six of my squirt guns for this purpose, you are welcome to them.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'132945\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 12:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'BobbyLankford_83\' post=\'132929\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 09:54 AM\']
Recently, Ken got arrested for drunk driving in Indiana where he was attending some Italian event. I saw it on ET. Boy, I guess Ken was playing his character when he got cuaght for DUI.[/quote]
How so? Was he blaming his troubles on the Ewings?
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Good one, Don. From what I saw he had too much wine at an Indiana. And in recent years Kercheval has had lung cancer sugery, having been a heavy smoker.
I guess his liver got pickled like Hagman's did.
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[quote name=\'BobbyLankford_83\' post=\'132929\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 08:54 AM\']
Recently, Ken got arrested for drunk driving in Indiana where he was attending some Italian event.
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Anyone think Karlberg got invited?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'132978\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 07:20 PM\']
[quote name=\'BobbyLankford_83\' post=\'132929\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 08:54 AM\']
Recently, Ken got arrested for drunk driving in Indiana where he was attending some Italian event.
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Anyone think Karlberg got invited?
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If anything, he gate-crashed.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'132949\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 12:05 PM\']
[quote name=\'BobbyLankford_83\' post=\'132929\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 09:54 AM\']
Recently, Ken got arrested for drunk driving in Indiana where he was attending some Italian event. I saw it on ET.
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You mean ET covered something other than Tomcat and/or Brangelina?
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and Anna Nicole's baby drama
/Personally, if I slept with Anna Nicole, it's not something I'd want to publicize.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'132945\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 11:21 AM\']
[quote name=\'BobbyLankford_83\' post=\'132929\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 09:54 AM\']
Recently, Ken got arrested for drunk driving in Indiana where he was attending some Italian event. I saw it on ET. Boy, I guess Ken was playing his character when he got cuaght for DUI.[/quote]
How so? Was he blaming his troubles on the Ewings?
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Maybe he was trying to audition for the role of the drunkard Digger Barnes in the upcoming "Dallas" movie?
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'133479\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 04:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'132945\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 11:21 AM\']
[quote name=\'BobbyLankford_83\' post=\'132929\' date=\'Sep 29 2006, 09:54 AM\']
Recently, Ken got arrested for drunk driving in Indiana where he was attending some Italian event. I saw it on ET. Boy, I guess Ken was playing his character when he got cuaght for DUI.[/quote]
How so? Was he blaming his troubles on the Ewings?
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Maybe he was trying to audition for the role of the drunkard Digger Barnes in the upcoming "Dallas" movie?
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Oh, that'd be sweet. I wonder how Jack Narz would do in that role.