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Does DOND still thrill you? Is the novelty wearing off or is it just as exciting for you as day one?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'132218\' date=\'Sep 20 2006, 03:43 PM\']
Does DOND still thrill you? Is the novelty wearing off or is it just as exciting for you as day one?
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Not just wearing, flat-out worn. But I think I've made that pretty clear. :)
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I flipped by the premiere on Monday. Basically confirmed why I haven't watched it since episode 4, 12/05.
-Jason
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At least--unlike WWTBAM--there is the extra enticement of the home game where anyone who plays has a chance of winning. BTW, I missed the name of the home game winner for 9/19. Is it up on the official site yet?
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It hasn't thrilled me since I came to the realization that nobody, not even a Deal or No Deal contestant, will gamble the kind of money offered on that show for a chance to win it all.
But since there are very few prime time shows that I care about, I still will usually turn it on for background noise while I do something else. It certainly doesn't take a large portion of my attention to follow what's going on.
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Scott Robinson
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Kind of, but not really. It's a few faults of the presentation and format is what kills the series. I know something is wrong when I prefer Edmonds and O'Keefe's versions to Mandel's.
I swear, sometimes it appears to be "This is Your Life" with a game element attached to it.
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The US version could be canceled tomorrow and my life wouldn't be affected one bit for reasons I mentioned in another thread, hack useless bits, annoying/obnoxious contestants, etc. I've mentioned it all before.
That said, I've seen several episodes of the UK format and love it. As has been discussed elsewhere, since the contestants are on for quite a while you get to know them and they don't have to "cast" the contestants as much as they do on the US version. If that's how they work the syndi version next year, I'll check it out.
-edit- I guess I didn't really answer the question asked. Does it STILL thrill me? Assuming my "level of thrill" is the same as it was first season, the honest answer would be "yes, it thrills me to the same degree".
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When it debuted in December, I enjoyed it. Not so much because it was a new game show. Not so much because of the luster, but because it had a natural feel to it. The contestants and audience were happy to be there, but they weren't over-the-top obnoxious. When it returned in February or March, we got church choirs, cheerleading chants, and it became a game show, circus, concert, and "This is Your Life" all rolled into one. It literally became a dog-and-pony show. I've said it a few times, but Howie only needs to say a few words to the family section, then shut them up, esp. the kids.
If the syndie version is the way that the December preview week was, I'll watch. If it looks like it's produced by Barnum and Bailey, I'll pass.
Treasure Hunt was fun because it was meant to be cheesy. D/ND wants to have all this cheesy action, but take itself seriously at the same time.
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I think I may have a differing opinion because I don't watch Deal all that much because of other commitments. Therefore, there's still something interesting in the game, especially if you play Armchair Banker. I still think games are more open-ended than, say, Millionaire, so that could always provide for a good time.
It was a nice complement to Viking, though, when it was concurrently running on ESPN.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'132218\' date=\'Sep 20 2006, 06:43 PM\']
Does DOND still thrill you? Is the novelty wearing off or is it just as exciting for you as day one?
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It's just as exciting for me today as it was on day one. Zero excitement then, zero excitement now.
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For me, the novelty has not worn off one bit.
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To me it's a thrill, but not a good kind of thrill. The suspense is rather painful and the resolution is almost always a letdown or at best a relief, not a happy culmination (like Joe Trela winning on Millionaire). Kind of like when I was a kid, I loved rollercoasters...weeeeeeeee! But if I were to ride one and end up heaving my guts out, and spending the rest of the day in bed tanked up on Pepto-Bismol, chances are I'm not going to want to jump right back on that rollercoaster. I mean, what am I getting out of it.
The only reason I've been taping it this week is because the promos implied (correctly, it turns out) that show records would be broken. A network history record was actually broken Tuesday night by Kimberly. I adored Kimberly but have to admit some of the other contestants have been a bit grating.
Having said that...the church choirs, etc. (and tomorrow, that football team) actually, to me, add to the show. I would like to see a little less of the family though, and when Howie starts manipulating spouses...excuse me, I'm going to be sick.
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When I realized that a player had to work really, really hard to walk out with less than a five-digit payout, it was over for me.
And, sadly, I think that was during episode 3.
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Based on what I saw of Monday's show, the answer for me is "yes, when they're actually airing gameplay." Unfortunately, though, that's not what's on the air during the vast majority of any given broadcast.
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As I've said a few times...DOND never has excited me. Never will.
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[quote name=\'Thad Dixon\' post=\'132251\' date=\'Sep 20 2006, 07:46 PM\']
For me, the novelty has not worn off one bit.
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If you're surprised, raise your hand.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132264\' date=\'Sep 20 2006, 09:03 PM\'][quote name=\'Thad Dixon\' post=\'132251\' date=\'Sep 20 2006, 07:46 PM\']For me, the novelty has not worn off one bit.[/quote]
If you're surprised, raise your hand.[/quote]<puts hand down to the floor>
And to answer the question: my initial thrill level was a 1 out of 5 (it's silly to rate things on a 0-to-10 scale, since most humans can't separate that sort of thing into more than six or seven categories at most). After seeing Big-Assed Money Week, Yes You Can Have That Pony, Enjoy Your Hummer, and every other trite audience manipulating drivel stunt, that number has levelled off to zero of five. Never in my twenty-three years of watching game shows has a show so quickly and unashamedly worn out its welcome for me. And I was all set to give it a go too.
So, yeah, the "thrill" of watching people with no math skills turning down absurd amounts of money has worn off. Pardon me while I trundle over to the sink to stir up a Metamucil drink.
I'll stick to Andrew, Emma the Money Lady and the Australian Deal, thanks.
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In the beginning, when DoND was presented to us as simply a big-money game show and nothing more, I loved it. When it came back, the thrill quickly went away. It's like NBC is scared to admit that it's a game show, so they throw in all this other crap like family reunions, military husbands via satellite, ponies (I actually missed that one, thank God) and Celine f***in' Dion hoping that people don't go "oh my God, this is a GAME SHOW I'm watching! Screw this!" and change the channel. Not to mention the contestants upstaging Howie more often than not is beyond annoying.
P.S.- In that one episode, when Howie said "this is Deal or No Deal, where dreams come true!", I almost swore the show off forever.
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Last December when it first debuted, I was tickled to death to see DoND when it was very simple without all the cheesiness. Now, it seems to me it's turned into an instant party-;like atmospkere since February. Even though I'm still a bit thrilled to see this show, it's not as much as before. When someone finally hits the Big One, it'll go down to the point of mediocrity & monotony. Untill then, I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
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No, it does not thrill me anymore. The "Mo' Money" syndrome is making it unwatchable, two records fall in two nights, with a potential for a third new record if the six million dollar person isn't braindead and plays it right removes all the fun for me. Kill the gimmicks, play it more like the UK version- thats what Id like to see.
The thrill is gone.
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Personally, the show is still entertaining, but it feels like the end of a fireworks show... with the 4 shows this week and the escalating top prizes, I ask myself: "How will they top THIS?" Will it be a letdown when $1 mil is the top prize again?
It will be interesting to see the ratings for this first week-can they recpature the audience? And will they insist on dropping in extra shows to saturate their schedule? Hopefully not-I'd love to see what happens with a once-a-week schedule, and how long it would last...
One thing that bothers me: these mind-numbing values the banker offers seem to have little effect on the contestants. On an average game show, like TPIR, the mere announcement of "Plinko for $50,000" elicits more real emotion than these contestants who come to expect they'll get 6 digit offers and an offer of a *mere* $50,000, as much as it is for the average American, is nothing in this environment. I'd like to see a little more 'realism'-if these people stop and think for a minute, $50,000 is still a LOT of money-not something to immediately shout "NO DEAL" and move on. If they're indifferent over that amount of money, will we as viewers soon follow suit?
Matt
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No. Give me a $1,000,000 Chance Of A Lifetime rerun anytime.
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$50,000 is still a LOT of money-not something to immediately shout "NO DEAL" and move on.
Far be it from me to defend them, but it's the same principle found when $1,000 in TPIR's "Pass the Buck" is an immediate reason to go on, but $1,000 on the Punchboard makes contestants think a bit. $50,000 is a holy grail on "Price," but on "Deal" it's not much. I'd love $22,000, but I know if I'm a DoND contestant, that figure is one I'd find among the first two or so offers; one that is diddly compared to what I should see up the road.
-Jason
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Personally, the show is still entertaining, but it feels like the end of a fireworks show... with the 4 shows this week and the escalating top prizes, I ask myself: "How will they top THIS?" Will it be a letdown when $1 mil is the top prize again?
That's what I was thinking. Once they return to the regular episodes it will seem like a letdown.
For me, I think the novelty has worn off. Seeing them hand out these outrageous sums two nights in a row, just because it's premiere week and they have to offer millions of dollars, is a bit much. There has been talk on this forum that the board is too top-heavy. Couldn't be more true this week!
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I have felt no compulsion to watch this week. I never really grew to HATE the show: I actually appreciated some of the unique offers they had last season, and I can get a certain amount of joy even out of mumbling "don't quit, you moron, you have three huge amounts left". What tipped the scales negatively, for me, were the irritating contestants and families (they weren't all irritating, but a lot were), and above all, how Freakin'(tm) SLOW the show moved. Producers, how can you expect me to enjoy Howie's stalling tactics when they so rapidly became nothing *more* than that?
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The thrill is going, no doubt. Things are getting just a little too predictable (although Matty, as obnoxious as he was, was still an attracting influence on Monday night).
Of course, the bad thing is that as much as we can legitimately complain, the show is still the only thing NBC has going for it other than football. Tuesday night can be brushed off as going against "Dancing" and the fact that "Studio 60"'s audience dropped off as it went on from "DOND"'s heights are pretty much clues that NBC's going to have Snot Bomb do the show pretty much as he's been doing it.
And since the Jill Hennessy and Nikki Cox shows don't start until Oct. 20, it looks like we're getting another month of Friday night "DOND."
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'132327\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 02:39 PM\']
I never really grew to HATE the show
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Let me qualify and say I don't _hate_ the show, either, because honestly that requires some emotional investment. I simply don't care about it and have no great urge to be in front of my TV at 8:00P on nights when it's on. If I'm there and there's nothing else on, sure, because it's still a game show and that beats a repeat of Emeril I've already seen six times. But I'm sure not planning my night around it.
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'132331\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 02:54 PM\']
and the fact that "Studio 60"'s audience dropped off as it went on from "DOND"'s heights
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And man, is THAT a shame, because I absolutely LOVED Studio 60. Hit me right in the place that was vacated when West Wing finished up, and it's about the TV business, which always rules.
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This thread brings up a problem I had never considered before: predictability. The show is so devoid of gamesmanship that it is becoming predictable.
Speaking of predictions, I still say that if it makes it to 2008 it won't make it very far.
We have compared this show to Treasure Hunt many times. You can't fault Treasure Hunt for being predictable. What kept Treasure Hunt and LMAD going for so many years was the element of surprise.
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i'm grateful for DoND for one reason and one reason only : it's opened up dumbass executive minds that up until December 2005 thought that no one would watch a prime time game show. There's more on the horizon now for one reason : Howie and the girls. And for that, I say, thank you endemol. Doesn't mean i'm going to watch though.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'132331\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 02:54 PM\']
and the fact that "Studio 60"'s audience dropped off as it went on from "DOND"'s heights
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And man, is THAT a shame, because I absolutely LOVED Studio 60. Hit me right in the place that was vacated when West Wing finished up, and it's about the TV business, which always rules.
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Why do I like Studio 60? It's the best of his two previous shows : West Wing and Sports Night.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132336\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 05:21 PM\']
is THAT a shame, because I absolutely LOVED Studio 60. Hit me right in the place that was vacated when West Wing finished up, and it's about the TV business, which always rules.
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I loved "Studio 60" too! That rant Judd Hirsch gave at the start of the show was BRILLIANT, it sold me right away!
-Joe R.
/We're eating worms for money!
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I don't believe this question has ever been brought up before so here goes.
To those Invisioners from the foreign lands (England, Australia, etc...):
Have your local versions of DonD, or other game shows of the past got gonzo-crazy with creating extra-spectacular episodes with extra money jackpots, celebrity versions, etc? If so, were these "very special episodes" done too often, not at all, or were done well without overkilling the show?
I just want to get a feel how other countries deal with the "mo' money syndrome for extra ratings" factor.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'132352\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 07:57 PM\']
I don't believe this question has ever been brought up before so here goes.
To those Invisioners from the foreign lands (England, Australia, etc...):
Have your local versions of DonD, or other game shows of the past got gonzo-crazy with creating extra-spectacular episodes with extra money jackpots, celebrity versions, etc? If so, were these "very special episodes" done too often, not at all, or were done well without overkilling the show?
I just want to get a feel how other countries deal with the "mo' money syndrome for extra ratings" factor.
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I will speak on behalf of the Australian version. Fortunately - we haven't seen the need to really ramp up the hype. Apart from the occasional cross-promotional weeks (like this week with "Dancing With the Stars"), and the introduction of the "Double or Nothing" feature and Double Deal Friday (where a home contestant wins the same amount as the studio player) - nothing much has changed format or money wise since the introduction of the 1/2 hour daily version of the show at the start of 2004. There have been the very occasional prime-time versions (with $2,000,000 top prizes) but gratefully - they have been used sparingly. Our contestants are rarely as "obnoxious" as some of those I've seen on the US version - contestants go on the show primarily to have fun, and perhaps pick up some doe along the way. 'Casting' for the show is minimal (I auditioned many months ago and was accepted - and I'm pretty ordinary). And unlike the US version, all contestants on our podium can win money - so the love is shared around.
"Deal" has worked well for the Seven Network - they have a consistent performer which pays the bills and brings viewers in for the important primetime hours (where they have increased their ratings significantly over the past two years). They certainly won't be relinguising the rights to the format any time soon.
As a sideline however - I much prefer the UK version. I think it will be a real stayer - as it has suspense and character which will hold viewers.
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[quote name=\'pownster\' post=\'132359\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 07:41 PM\']
As a sideline however - I much prefer the UK version.[/quote]
This surprises me, because I think your version is far superior. The UK version has too much of a...hmm. A non-chromey feel. And as I've said before, without chrome, this game is complete crap as a TV show.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132360\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 10:04 PM\']
[quote name=\'pownster\' post=\'132359\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 07:41 PM\']
As a sideline however - I much prefer the UK version.[/quote]
This surprises me, because I think your version is far superior. The UK version has too much of a...hmm. A non-chromey feel. And as I've said before, without chrome, this game is complete crap as a TV show.
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I think what helps the show is a lower top prize. YES -- LOWER THE BUDGET OMGBBQWTF!!!1!1!
I could watch DoND AUS/UK daily with no problem... but I can understand the comments in the thread. Nothing against the models, but AUS is done at such a well pace and UK is casted/played well that it's fun to tune in to see if someone can win.
I still like NBC's Deal but I'm very curious to see how they cast/format the syndie version.
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I have seen two and a half episodes of the UK Deal. It's only the second incarnation of the show I've viewed, but I like it better than ours. However, I thought after those episode that this incredible ramping of drama by Noel/the show couldn't possibly hold up for **6** days a week, all year.
To any regular viewers, either across the pond or here via Torrent, what's your impression in that regard?
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'132364\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 11:53 PM\']
However, I thought after those episode that this incredible ramping of drama by Noel/the show couldn't possibly hold up for **6** days a week, all year.
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The thing about UK Deal is that the drama it presents varies more than our version: compare the can-you-top-this mentality here against the highs and lows on the UK version. Witness the anti-drama, for lack of a better phrase, of contestants wanting to "earn" their way into 1p club or one of the lower prizes, as one recent contestant demonstrated (i.e. Emi's desire to win 50p is spoiled by winning 10 GBP).
Noel does a good job convincing me, the viewer, of seeing the shallow format as an actual game the contestant is playing and everybody on stage has their part to play. I also like that the dealer seems more omnipresent. For example, any comment from the boxholder/contestant can affect offers or even the banker's temperament.
The only gimmickry I notice on UK Deal comes from Noel himself (e.g. pulling out lucky hats, writing on contestant's hands, or just being hyper). Even when his antics ensue the show still retains a sense of normalcy instead of degenerating into a circus.
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I still find DoND thrilling. Sure the game isn't much and a high majority of the contestants are annoying, but the suspense of the show can be incredible. Plus, Howie is still a pretty darn good host.
Having said all this, I'm sure I will be insulted, flamed and called names because I do not share the opinion of the majority. (EDIT: I'm being sarcastic with that)
-Joe R.
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All I will say is this...
DonD is thrilling.... in the first three minutes of the show when the models bring down those suitcases. ;-D
OH YEAH!!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132360\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 04:04 AM\']
[quote name=\'pownster\' post=\'132359\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 07:41 PM\']
As a sideline however - I much prefer the UK version.[/quote]
This surprises me, because I think your version is far superior. The UK version has too much of a...hmm. A non-chromey feel. And as I've said before, without chrome, this game is complete crap as a TV show.
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But the UK one very much markets itself as an anti-game, placing a lot more emphasis on the personalities and interplay of the contestants and the Banker (who is properly funny), most of which you'll have seen every day waiting in the wings for their go for the best part of a month. Thusly when it's their turn to play, it feels much more important - they've each had to invest time and emotion on the way to the chair, just as you have as a viewer.
The money ladder has always stayed the same, but on special occasions they have the contestants dress up, and they sometimes increase the possible prizes for the home viewer telephone game.
This all being said... I'm in love with the French version, which is essentially the UK show but with comedy sound effects and Vangelis.
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[quote name=\'jdhernandez\' post=\'132371\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 03:29 AM\']
All I will say is this...
DonD is thrilling.... in the first three minutes of the show when the models bring down those suitcases. ;-D
OH YEAH!!
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And from what I understand, when seeing the show in person, that process happens over and over and over again, thereby adding to the 'gasm.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132336\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 05:21 PM\']... is THAT a shame, because I absolutely LOVED Studio 60. Hit me right in the place that was vacated when West Wing finished up, and it's about the TV business, which always rules.[/quote]Two more words: Amanda Peet.
[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'132350\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 08:24 PM\']I loved "Studio 60" too! That rant Judd Hirsch gave at the start of the show was BRILLIANT, it sold me right away![/quote]Network executives might want to take note, because Hirsch's words were more fact than than fiction!
If you think Monday was a big drop-off, here's how the dust settled after that big three-way car crash that was the 9:00 hour last night, as reported by Zap2it:
Grey's Anatomy (ABC): 15.7/23
CSI: Original Recipe (CBS): 13.5/20
Deal or No Deal (NBC): 6.5/10
Looks like CSI jumped the shark by casting Danny Bonaduce as a corpse. (It's a two-parter, so we'll see him alive next week.)
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' post=\'132386\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 11:17 AM\']
Two more words: Amanda Peet.
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I'd hit it with the force of an angry god. :)
CSI: Original Recipe
I lol'd.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'132372\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 06:46 AM\']
This all being said... I'm in love with the French version, which is essentially the UK show but with comedy sound effects and Vangelis.
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Because nothing says "comedy sound effects" like Vangelis... ;)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132360\' date=\'Sep 21 2006, 11:04 PM\']
The UK version has too much of a...hmm. A non-chromey feel. And as I've said before, without chrome, this game is complete crap as a TV show.
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You know, I think that may be one of the things I like best about it. It seems to me proof that cardboard can be as exciting as *!titanium!* *!briefcases!* *!held!* *!by!* *!models!*.
In the same way that "What's My Line?" never needed dressing up. Though WML is, of course, the far superior *game*.
But, y'know, t'each his own.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'132369\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 02:15 AM\']
I still find DoND thrilling. Sure the game isn't much and a high majority of the contestants are annoying, but the suspense of the show can be incredible. Plus, Howie is still a pretty darn good host.
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Since I had rated DoND as #25 on my list, I guess people would infer from that that I find it thrilling, or still find it thrilling. I do like the show, and Howie has demonstrated that he's more than capable of handling the format. But to say it "thrills" me would be overstating it, I think.
/Oh yeah, the other 52 reasons to watch. Slipped my mind. Briefly.
Doug
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' post=\'132386\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 02:17 PM\']
Grey's Anatomy (ABC): 15.7/23
CSI: Original Recipe (CBS): 13.5/20
Deal or No Deal (NBC): 6.5/10
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It looks like no one yet is using this to proclaim that the end of DoND is a lot closer at hand than we thought, and that's good. A show like DoND is a "default" show, something to watch when there's "nothing else on". The game will probably continue to do fine on Mondays where the competition is not nearly as fierce, and as for Thursday, NBC can either move it to a different night, drop it, or just leave it where it is as inexpensive counterprogramming. But it was never going to make a dent against the two dramatic powerhouses, and bless NBC for not dropping Studio 60 there as originally planned.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'132391\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 02:34 PM\']Oh yeah, the other 52 reasons to watch. Slipped my mind. Briefly.[/quote]
Ha ha, slip.
6.5 is still better than what most of NBC was last year, wasn't it? It's a nice figure, though. Not set-the-world-on-fire large, but not GSN's-kicking-our-hindquarters small. I think the panic button comes at the low 5's, but that's just me.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'132392\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 01:49 PM\']
A show like DoND is a "default" show, something to watch when there's "nothing else on".
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That was the genius behind "Dateline NBC" and "Whose Line Is It Anyway," too. I like to think a prime time "Match Game" revival could work the same way.
I watch the show very rarely but am tired of Howie's suspenseful tosses to commercial. Good lord, before every stinking break? And this thing's going to be on EVERYDAY?
And would anyone who knows budgets predict if they can actually afford 26 models in syndication?
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'132399\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 01:31 PM\']
I watch the show very rarely but am tired of Howie's suspenseful tosses to commercial. Good lord, before every stinking break? And this thing's going to be on EVERYDAY?
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To his credit, he's gotten MUCH better at them. In the beginning, he was telegraphing the hell out of them, and you could see it coming down Main Street whenever he was about to do one. Now he either makes the camera turn and does it immediately, or plays the telegraphing up intentionally for comedic value. So clearly he's gotten more comfortable in his role, which is only gonna make him a better host.
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[quote name=\'jdhernandez\' post=\'132371\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 03:29 AM\']All I will say is this...
DonD is thrilling.... in the first three minutes of the show when the models bring down those suitcases. ;-D
OH YEAH!![/quote]
I showed my students Monday's Deal, specifically where you could see me quite clearly--when the models brought down the cases. Your eyes, Mr. JD, were locked on the model bringing down the player's case, watching every globule of saline jiggle with even the slightest motion.
I rest my case.
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'132373\' date=\'Sep 22 2006, 07:51 AM\']And from what I understand, when seeing the show in person, that process happens over and over and over again, thereby adding to the 'gasm.[/quote]
Oh yeah!!!! Er, um, yeah. I need to shower.
/ Woulda done the same as JD if I turned all the way around.
// My kids noticed I was looking straight at Anya the whole time. As I told them, I have taste in ladies.
/// No BB&Bs near Culver Studios, darnit.
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It thrills me for a few seconds until I realize that no one has yet one the dang million dollars. and um..right moving on.
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/// No BB&Bs near Culver Studios, darnit.
Silly boy:
http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps2.py?Pyt=Typ&...CI8fgbZqjgYxJQ- (http://\"http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps2.py?Pyt=Typ&name=Bed+Bath+%26+Beyond&desc=(310)+202-8510&csz=Culver+City+CA+90230&country=us&cs=9&ed=u81alK160SyQHm.NCWVamGEALiBkO8zVg.PH8hCa3pW4pKmrseWOyQZ8ubnRgCI8fgbZqjgYxJQ-\")
They're everywhere.
They have it set so that you str8 men vaporize when trying to enter a BB&B alone. That's why the only heteros you see in there are grudgingly accompanying their wives or g/fs. Gay guys don't vaporize no matter what; that's why you see so many of them (us) in there.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'132440\' date=\'Sep 23 2006, 04:11 AM\']Silly boy:
http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps2.py?Pyt=Typ&...CI8fgbZqjgYxJQ- (http://\"http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps2.py?Pyt=Typ&name=Bed+Bath+%26+Beyond&desc=(310)+202-8510&csz=Culver+City+CA+90230&country=us&cs=9&ed=u81alK160SyQHm.NCWVamGEALiBkO8zVg.PH8hCa3pW4pKmrseWOyQZ8ubnRgCI8fgbZqjgYxJQ-\")
They're everywhere.
They have it set so that you str8 men vaporize when trying to enter a BB&B alone. That's why the only heteros you see in there are grudgingly accompanying their wives or g/fs. Gay guys don't vaporize no matter what; that's why you see so many of them (us) in there.
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Great call, Chris, as always. I didn't see any in the general area, not that I was looking for one after the Deal taping. Honestly.
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Great call, Chris, as always. I didn't see any in the general area, not that I was looking for one after the Deal taping. Honestly.
You're telling me that you would not have vaporized had you gone into BB&B by yourself? Okee.
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I blame girl #1. She started this whole mess.
And yes, straight, single men do find themselves in BB and B due to the fact that there are many non-decorating elements in there, particularly small kitchen appliances. It's not all about the towels, kids.
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[quote name=\'Robair\' post=\'132472\' date=\'Sep 23 2006, 11:15 AM\']
And yes, straight, single men do find themselves in BB and B due to the fact that there are many non-decorating elements in there, particularly small kitchen appliances. It's not all about the towels, kids.
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I can spend hours just roaming through the kitchen gadgets.
/not that there's anything wrong with that
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Getting back to the topic at hand (what are you BB&B fans snickering at??), I'm with the group that says dropping to million dollar jackpots will make the show more of a snorefest than now. Just puttering around with some ideas for the show overall. What do you think?
(a) Howie and the contestant are the only ones on stage until the first two rounds are done. Let the contestant feel the pressure of making the first choices by themselves with only the audience as a whole shouting advice.
(b) After the first 11 cases are gone, then bring on the family and/or friends to encourage as the choice of cases grow smaller.
© if there are any gimmicks (church choirs/video links, etc), wait until after the third round to bring them into play.
(d) and the biggie...why don't they do something like the state lotteries do? The game is done - if the million dollar case is not chosen or has been eliminated by a pick, come up with some system connected with the game that adds money to the $1 million to create a carry-over effect of "Gee, how much is it worth next show?" In the old Break The Bank radio show, the amount of money contestants had when they were eliminated from the game went into the jackpot. If the pot was already at $1,000 and a team lost with, say, $600, the contestants got the $600 and the sponsor matched the $600 and put it in the bank - making the next game's bank $1600. What if the banker's last unclaimed offer or the highest amount left on the board is added to the million so it has the potential of growing with each show? "The next contestant has a chance to win $1,345,000 on DoND!"
Just some ideas.
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' post=\'132545\' date=\'Sep 24 2006, 05:05 PM\']
What if the banker's last unclaimed offer or the highest amount left on the board is added to the million so it has the potential of growing with each show? "The next contestant has a chance to win $1,345,000 on DoND!"
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In time, this would give us a theoretically possible billion-dollar cash jackpot. I'm a big fan of progressive jackpots, but I think that would skyrocket it too much and too quickly. Plus, what would that do to the value of the bank offers in some circumstances? I like the idea, Ol' Guy, but that would wreak havoc on the budget.
By the by, the billion-dollar sentence above is in memory of what Pat Sajak would say in reference to the Jackpot space on the wheel in the late 1980s on the daytime edition of Wheel Of Fortune.
True, the above sentence along with this one could have been preceded by a slash, but I'm a slash celibate.
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The jackpot needs to stay put, plain and simple. Modify it at all, and you run the risk of permanently damaging the game.
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They're not going to give away a prize which approaches 0.3% of the entire market capitalization of General Electric Co.
Mounting jackpots work when the money would not otherwise be given away. Based on figures to date, they need to keep their awards around $120,000 per week.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'132568\' date=\'Sep 24 2006, 07:58 PM\']
Mounting jackpots work when the money would not otherwise be given away. Based on figures to date, they need to keep their awards around $120,000 per week.
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Per week, or per show? 'Cuz the way they throw money around on this thing, they might be a little closer to the latter.
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My issue with the game now is that it's becoming a bother to view, which is why I rarely watch it anymore. I just stop watching because I'm afraid what they are going to offer next. They've already offered hair and a pony. It's becoming a bother to keep up with the increasing jackpots constantly. I think the first episode of the season, with the $1M and $2M games done in one hour, was the best because they trimmed out the crap and left the good bits in there. It's becoming a bother to even comprehend some of the incredibly dumbass offers "The Banker" is giving and the fact that the Banker that is still completely void of any personality is absolutely insane at this point, being that should be THE part they play up the most. And obviously, the answer is no: it still does not thrill me because NBC will spoil any thrill in the preview during the first minute or so. I am a big DoND fan (I still feel the Dutch version is the best), but the NBC one is just becoming annoying more than anything to me. I could stand it last season. This season, I really don't know what happened, I guess my senses finally started again.
I just want 1 vs 100 to come soon, it should be a nice change of pace. However, I swear to god, if they put a pony as one of the 100......
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'132570\' date=\'Sep 24 2006, 09:03 PM\']
I just want 1 vs 100 to come soon, it should be a nice change of pace. However, I swear to god, if they put a pony as one of the 100......
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For Chrissakes, don't give them ideas.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'132570\' date=\'Sep 24 2006, 11:03 PM\']
I just want 1 vs 100 to come soon, it should be a nice change of pace. However, I swear to god, if they put a pony as one of the 100......
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Of course not, don't be preposterous, they'd never do anything like that.
The pony will be the "1."
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Some of you have been touching on my main point, which was they've been messing with the values anyway, as one million doesn't seem to be the top limit these days. And it's not like I hadn't thought of the potential for multi-million dollar payouts...I was fishing for some suggestions for a more logical, workable idea for a possible escalating big payoff. Personally, if a decent way to do it could be established, I could live with a 5 mil top limit, but something that could see the high end creep up a bit from game to game I don't think would hurt. After all, around the offfice, you hear employees ask, "Hey, what's the Michigan lottery pot up to now?" A little more excitement than top values going arbitrarily from 1 to 3 to 5 then back to only a flat 1 mil for several months seems anti-climactic. They started the problem by creating ratings-gimmick amounts in the first place. What makes one person worthy of a $3 mil payoff and another only $1 mil? They screwed with it, and it's going to hurt them.
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' post=\'132580\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 09:49 AM\']
They started the problem by creating ratings-gimmick amounts in the first place. What makes one person worthy of a $3 mil payoff and another only $1 mil? They screwed with it, and it's going to hurt them.
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Indeed it is. In 2001, WWTBAM should not have added a $10000 bonus for each show in which the top dollar wasn't won as one-time payoff. Going back to "only a million" every time took more than a bit of the razzle-dazzle away. Same with DOND and their occasional boosts to the booty.
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You can't do this. Part of the problem with the show is that the Big One is at a million. Why? Human nature.
Having a million-dollar top prize is what is driving up the bank offers, and when you get into those disgusting amounts of money, most humans are gonna walk. On the other hand, with the Aussie show, given, say, $.10 and the Big One (which Down Under is $200K, in case you've been living under a rock) is gonna generate a bank offer right around $100K. Which isn't chicken feed, for sure, but isn't oh-my-god-are-you-insane high enough that nobody would turn it down. Given the same situation on our show, I don't care what the contestant said on their application form, they're not playing on when offered a sure thing of $500K.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'132582\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 10:54 AM\']
Indeed it is. In 2001, WWTBAM should not have added a $10000 bonus for each show in which the top dollar wasn't won as one-time payoff. Going back to "only a million" every time took more than a bit of the razzle-dazzle away. Same with DOND and their occasional boosts to the booty.
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I must disagree. No increase in the WWTBAM money, no house for me.
--Mike
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On the other hand, with the Aussie show, given, say, $.10 and the Big One (which Down Under is $200K, in case you've been living under a rock) is gonna generate a bank offer right around $100K. Which isn't chicken feed, for sure, but isn't oh-my-god-are-you-insane high enough that nobody would turn it down.
You really hit my point why I feel a syndicated series of DOND will do much better than a network version. I've done some drugs in my time, but I will and would never be baked enough, and hopefully no one would as well, to risk $500K on a gamble between $100 and $1,000,000. However, you will some people risk a sum such as $100,000 for $100 or $200,000; which makes for a much more exciting show. That and we can trim the crap out. Hopefully by the time the syndie show comes out, we can decide to either give The Banker a personality or just get rid of him. Sadly, I doubt either will happen.
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Here's what I would like to see in a Syndie DonD:
• Make the top prize $250,000
• Make the contestant open one more case per round than the current game (to speed up the games).
• Have their rooting families/friends in the background shot the way they do in Millionaire with *limited*
banter.
• Have a 4-shot screen when revealing the case -- Contestant, Close-up on the case, The model opening
the case, and their friends/family members -- to show the instantaneous reactions.
(The one thing I cannot stand on the current show is showing the obvious edited delayed reactions of the
contestants, family, host,... after the case is opened).
• I would also like to see George Gray tapped as host of the syndie version. He did a good job in "Link"
(and in many cases better than Anne Robinson), and I think he could throw in some well-timed humor in
"Deal" as well.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'132587\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 01:28 PM\']
Here's what I would like to see in a Syndie DonD:
• Have their rooting families/friends in the background shot the way they do in Millionaire with *limited*
banter.[/quote]
With this show prolly being 30 mins., I'd have as little banter as possible, so we can see more game play. Do a quick intro of the family, and shut them the hell up. And I'm not just saying that because the rooting section irritates me on the NBC version. ;-)
• I would also like to see George Gray tapped as host of the syndie version. He did a good job in "Link"
(and in many cases better than Anne Robinson), and I think he could throw in some well-timed humor in
"Deal" as well.
Plus, he also had a soul patch! ;-)
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'132584\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 11:59 AM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'132582\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 10:54 AM\']
Indeed it is. In 2001, WWTBAM should not have added a $10000 bonus for each show in which the top dollar wasn't won as one-time payoff. Going back to "only a million" every time took more than a bit of the razzle-dazzle away. Same with DOND and their occasional boosts to the booty.
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I must disagree. No increase in the WWTBAM money, no house for me.
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Oh, I liked the increase. I didn't like how after the $2.18M was won that the bonus didn't start over again.
Glad you got your house, though.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'132587\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 10:28 AM\']
Here's what I would like to see in a Syndie DonD:
• Make the top prize $250,000
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• I would also like to see George Gray tapped as host of the syndie version. He did a good job in "Link"
(and in many cases better than Anne Robinson), and I think he could throw in some well-timed humor in
"Deal" as well.
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Excellent ideas both.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'132587\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 12:28 PM\'] Here's what I would like to see in a Syndie DonD:
• Make the top prize $250,000
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Sounds good.
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'132587\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 12:28 PM\']
• Make the contestant open one more case per round than the current game (to speed up the games).
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The Australian version uses the 6, 5, 4, etc. ladder fine for a half-hour show, so why can't we use that here?
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'132587\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 12:28 PM\']
• Have their rooting families/friends in the background shot the way they do in Millionaire with *limited* banter.
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No, I think the way they do it on Howie's version is fine. Just needs to be shortened a bit.
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'132587\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 12:28 PM\']
• Have a 4-shot screen when revealing the case -- Contestant, Close-up on the case, The model opening the case, and their friends/family members -- to show the instantaneous reactions. (The one thing I cannot stand on the current show is showing the obvious edited delayed reactions of the contestants, family, host,... after the case is opened).
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One, I would rather have it where audience members opened the cases and earned money for guessing the contents correctly. And two, if I were to do that, I'd rather set it up with the money chain and 3 "stacked" shots in the center: The contestant on top, the case in the middle, and the family on the bottom.
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'132587\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 12:28 PM\']
• I would also like to see George Gray tapped as host of the syndie version. He did a good job in "Link" (and in many cases better than Anne Robinson), and I think he could throw in some well-timed humor in "Deal" as well.
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I don't think I'd like a host that teases the contestants on this type of show. It was good for TWL, but not good for this.
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I don't think I'd like a host that teases the contestants on this type of show.
I don't think that was his intention at all when he suggested George Gray. He saw his humor fitting the show - not his ability in being smarmy with contestants.
-Jason
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Funny this comes up because, last night, thanks to not having any homework left to work on (dangerous, huh?), I started brainstorming ideas for the syndie DoND.
Here were some I came up with; do with them what you please...;) :
-Make the top prize $200,000; it would still be one of the biggest prize purses on syndie shows!
-Reduce the number of cases to something like, maybe, 20 to make a concentrated effort to get a game in in the half hour.
-GET RID OF THE FAMILIES/GIMMICKS! I would have no problem with the family, say, sitting in the front row of the audience and having the contestant maybe turn to them for help, but I'd rather see it done like TTD did it instead of making them seem like contestants themselves. And, I think the gimmicks are self-explanatory.
-For the people holding the cases, I'd reserve the models for the nighttime version and instead have a weekly pool of contestants (a la Jackpot). When a person's case is selected, he/she makes a guess as to what's in it. If he/she is correct, then he/she wins $50,000 minus $2,000 for each case revealed prior. Draw the main game contestants from this weekly pool (but each player only gets one shot at picking cases!), and that way, if somebody crapped out, he/she has a chance to win some decent money (or vice versa).
I don't really have any good suggestions for a possible host, but George Gray isn't too bad of an idea. I certainly loved him on TWL.
Anthony
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[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' post=\'132596\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 12:42 PM\']
If he/she is correct, then he/she wins $50,000 minus $2,000 for each case revealed prior.
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Neverminding the budget issues that this notion carries, (which are massive: say the first three picks get lucky and make the right call? Goodbye, prize budget) the ramification that I see here is that it turns DonD into a political game. A player might avoid picking another player early (which would give them the chance to win more than if they were picked late) because they've already won a lot, or because they didn't pick the current player early in their game, or etc. It's a layer I think the show just doesn't need.
(Yes, I am well aware that the Australian show has the Megaguess. One, it's worth a lot less, two, it's a one-shot, and three, the players "on the podium" never get a chance to pick cases, and vice versa.)
(I'm also well aware that I'm giving the contestant coordinators WAY too much credit to suggest they would ever pick someone smart enough to realize this.)
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> if somebody crapped out, he/she has a chance to win some decent money (or vice versa).
No! That's where the drama is!
Given that the UK, a puny country, can have a £250,000 top prize daily (in an afternoon slot, pulling 2.5-3m viewers), why the hell couldn't you lot have a $500,000 top prize for a daily version?
I predict Syndie DOND US to be point missing and terrible.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'132601\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 02:31 PM\']
why the hell couldn't you lot have a $500,000 top prize for a daily version?
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Because it would still leave the board topheavy.
I predict Syndie DOND US to be point missing and terrible.
Well, can't argue with you there.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132602\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 10:34 PM\']
[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'132601\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 02:31 PM\']
why the hell couldn't you lot have a $500,000 top prize for a daily version?
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Because it would still leave the board topheavy.
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Well it depends on how you make the board, doesn't it? The average UK payout manages to be about £16,000 - hardly anything compared to the top prize really. Our top box is also two-and-a-half times the second prize, so there's a proper premium for keeping it in the game.
It would be interesting to see what way they go though - a daily version like the Aussie show is actually a dying format, pretty much every new daily version around the world now follows the European route of having the contestants stay on until they play. This would probably be an administrative nightmare to do in the States though, although since you only seem to get two weeks holiday a year, it makes it much more important you don't lose, no?
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I've always wondered how the UK contestants seem so willing to stay on the show for days and days and days and days. Just how much vacation time do the average Brits get? It'd have to be something really high for me to say "I'd justify spending a chunk of that to tape a game show."
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'132592\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 01:40 PM\']
I don't think I'd like a host that teases the contestants on this type of show.
I don't think that was his intention at all when he suggested George Gray. He saw his humor fitting the show - not his ability in being smarmy with contestants.
-Jason
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Exactly! Just like some people were thinking that Howie was going to be too crazy for DOND when he was first named. George would be a good fit because I think he knows when to use the cattle prod on a contestant if they are taking too long to make a decision and when to have a little fun with them.
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'132606\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 11:56 PM\']
I've always wondered how the UK contestants seem so willing to stay on the show for days and days and days and days. Just how much vacation time do the average Brits get? It'd have to be something really high for me to say "I'd justify spending a chunk of that to tape a game show."
-Jason
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Four to six weeks on average. I get eight, but then I'm very very good. Taping normally requires about a fortnight.
Several people quit their jobs to get on our show. At least one of them ended up with a prize that was single figure.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'132609\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 04:33 PM\']
Several people quit their jobs to get on our show. At least one of them ended up with a prize that was single figure.
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A screencap of that is a PWNED picture waiting to happen. :)
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DoND does not thrill me anymore. Mo' money syndrome killed it for me.
I'm personally looking forward to the syndie version. I would hope for a money structure like the Aussie version, complete with a car up for grabs. The only change would be for a top prize of $250,000. No more.
Please. Don't screw this up.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'132605\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 06:41 PM\']It would be interesting to see what way they go though - a daily version like the Aussie show is actually a dying format, pretty much every new daily version around the world now follows the European route of having the contestants stay on until they play. This would probably be an administrative nightmare to do in the States though, although since you only seem to get two weeks holiday a year, it makes it much more important you don't lose, no?[/quote]
Well, since syndicated game shows normally tape 5 shows in a day, it's not as bad (it would take any given person about a week to be called up) but there is the potential for a long stay. I think it would be a little more accomodating if there was something along the lines of TPIR Live in that you are eligible to play X number of times and after that, you're merely a spectator. It would still be a bit of a logistical nightmare, but more for the staff (who can find ways to schedule appearances) than the civilians.
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And all of these little tweak-ettes are going to compensate for the lack of a game?
The half-hour version will be better by dint of the fact that a pint of s**t is preferable to a quart of s**t.
/Deck chairs
//Titanic
///Rearranging
////Ice berg
/////Ahead
//////Look out!!!
///////WHAM!!!
////////Out of slashes -- bye.
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The game's never been there before, so I don't see how you'd think there would be a change to that.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'132635\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 08:28 PM\']
The game's never been there before, so I don't see how you'd think there would be a change to that.
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I think that's his point.
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Tonight's show was a bit annoying. The contestant's dream was to be able to fly to her husband's home country, because his parents have never seen their daughter. She had quite a bit of money, $55,000, but got greedy, lost a big value, and was left with an offer of $4,000. I truly felt bad for her; worse that I've really felt for any other contestant. I had a sinking feeling they would get the parents on somehow regardless. I just kept hoping they wouldn't, but they brought the parents on anyway. I might be a complete jerk, but I think DOND needs that certain level of disappointment every now and then to make people realize "Hey, money is money. Let's get the money for what we need and get out of here", not "Well screw it and No Deal the entire time, since if I need something bad enough, NBC will just buy it for me." The scene reminds me of one VERY similar from a UK episode (Mike has a video of it. (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/video/index.html\") It's Trevor's game). I don't want to sound completely, uh, evil, but that gutted feeling is OK every now and then. NBC ruined what could have been a terrific lesson to all future contestants.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'132640\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 09:30 PM\']
She had quite a bit of money, $55,000, but got greedy,
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I truly felt bad for her;
Mutually exclusive concepts, in my eyes. You roll the dice on that show, you get no sympathy from me when they come up snake-eyes.
I had a sinking feeling they would get the parents on somehow regardless. I just kept hoping they wouldn't, but they brought the parents on anyway.
If you were the least bit surprised, you haven't been watching NBC.
NBC ruined what could have been a terrific lesson to all future contestants.
Do you really think that NBC wants to send future contestants a message that they should play prudently and make sure they take away some money?
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I think that the timing was a little off. If I had to go through with this, I'd have waited until the game formally ended and then introduce the family. That way, rational heads would prevail (not to say that it didn't in this instance).
/Stupid me thought it was domestic airfare they needed.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'132616\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 09:19 PM\']
I think it would be a little more accomodating if there was something along the lines of TPIR Live in that you are eligible to play X number of times and after that, you're merely a spectator.[/quote]
The Atlantic City run used to be that one was eligible 4 times (same for Feud). They recently changed it so you can play as many times as you want. However, once you are called, you have to wait out a few weeks before you be eligible again. Not sure if it's the same for the Vegas run.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'132640\' date=\'Sep 25 2006, 11:30 PM\']
Tonight's show was a bit annoying. The contestant's dream was to be able to fly to her husband's home country, because his parents have never seen their daughter. She had quite a bit of money, $55,000, but got greedy, lost a big value, and was left with an offer of $4,000. I truly felt bad for her; worse that I've really felt for any other contestant. I had a sinking feeling they would get the parents on somehow regardless. I just kept hoping they wouldn't, but they brought the parents on anyway. I might be a complete jerk, but I think DOND needs that certain level of disappointment every now and then to make people realize "Hey, money is money. Let's get the money for what we need and get out of here", not "Well screw it and No Deal the entire time, since if I need something bad enough, NBC will just buy it for me." The scene reminds me of one VERY similar from a UK episode (Mike has a video of it. (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/video/index.html\") It's Trevor's game). I don't want to sound completely, uh, evil, but that gutted feeling is OK every now and then. NBC ruined what could have been a terrific lesson to all future contestants.
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Did they really have to trot out that now old and tired phony-satellite-link-that-intentionally-goes-whacko bit? It's been done to death on the daytime talk shows:
"Look--it's your family on our big screen! Say 'Hello' to...uh...ooooops! Heh-heh, seems we've lost out signal...awwww...too bad..."
And if you can't guess what happens next, you'd probably think there is that one elusive episode out there where Gilligan and the castaways actually get off that island for good!
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Watched some DOND Friday night. The contestant was grating, the game uncompelling, tuned out. Bla.
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I've really been enjoying the past few episodes. While they have not been thrilling. It's been rather refreshing to see smaller wins, weaker boards late in the game, people taking early deals, bad luck and gambles not working out.
Seeing "smaller" offers on a "weak" board makes the game more exciting and compelling. $1/$5,000/$1,000,000 and the offer is $300,000 should be a no-brainer, but $1/$5,000/$100,000 and the offer is $30,000 can be really difficult. That's how DoND should be done.
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'133285\' date=\'Oct 3 2006, 08:30 AM\']
Seeing "smaller" offers on a "weak" board makes the game more exciting and compelling. $1/$5,000/$1,000,000 and the offer is $300,000 should be a no-brainer, but $1/$5,000/$100,000 and the offer is $30,000 can be really difficult. That's how DoND should be done.
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You have discovered why the topheaviness of the board is a Bad Thing. Congratulations.