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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: FOXSportsFan on June 23, 2006, 01:35:05 AM
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Time to preface this with a warning:
I don't necessarily know the validity from this person's posting (for all I know it could be bowling buddy time or it could be legit). That said, this claim comes from a site (which I frequent) where both fans of the TV news industry and individuals from the broadcast TV industry talk about TV News and TV in general.
Okay, that being said...here's the link: The New Price Host May Be Known? (http://\"http://www.tvnewstalk.net/forum2/index.php/topic,5802.0.html\")
I, of course, am very skeptical of this having truth, and I even showed my skepticism in said thread. But, I figure since it sparked some opinions from all angles on that forum, why not let you folks in and debate the pros and cons and such, eh? It's a different look at that whole "Who Will Replace Barker?" angle than I bet most of y'all had in mind. I'm skeptical, but hey, with CBS you never know, right?
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I have not one friggin' idea who Dave Price is.
Which is why there is no way in nine blue hells this rumor has a single shred of accuracy to it.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'122202\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 01:39 AM\']
I have not one friggin' idea who Dave Price is.
Which is why there is no way in nine blue hells this rumor has a single shred of accuracy to it.
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And if Chris Lemon doesn't know him? Audience?
Audience (yelling): HE DOES NOT EXIST!
Chris, I'm not disagreeing with you...I'm skeptical, as I mentioned. Do I think it could happen? In this day and age, never say never. I made the point in the very thread about how one would think the stage show would be deemed, whether higher ups say something or not, a training ground for a probable successor.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'122207\' date=\'Jun 22 2006, 10:43 PM\']
And if Chris Lemon doesn't know him? Audience?
Audience (yelling): HE DOES NOT EXIST!
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Well, for a job that high-profile? Yeah.
My point is, I consider myself fairly well-versed in the matter of personalities in the television industry, and despite the fact that he's on The Morning Show Nobody Watches Unless It's To See The Recent Ejectee From Whatever Reality Show CBS Is Current Pimping, this was the first time I have ever heard his name.
And if he's that far off of MY radar, what the hell is the average peripheral television watcher gonna think? Hint: it has something to do with the remote control and wondering if Elizabeth Hasselbeck has stopped wearing bell bottoms yet.
If CBS is seriously considering replacing Barker with that much of a nobody (and trust me, they're not, unless Les Moonves is really that p-whipped by Dave's coworker), then that's a shark and a landing ramp I see rapidly getting smaller in my rear-view mirror.
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Of course, Conan O'Brien's name was on the tip of everyone's tongue when it came time to find Letterman's replacement at NBC.
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That makes a lot of sense to hire him. Then they can rename the show "Dave Price is Right".
/Ithankya
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'122201\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 12:35 AM\']
I, of course, am very skeptical of this having truth[/quote]
Words to all Kleist's who may post on the board in the future.
I could make a post on a message board and say Jenny Craig is going to host a revival of Dog Eat Dog and have just about as much validity.
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Guess what? I'm going to be the Executive Producer of The Price Is Right when Barker kicks the bucket. Yes, that's right, me, Chris Clementson. It's a deal I made when Howard Felsher hired me in 1978.
The first problem with this story is that the employer of the TPIR emcee is FremantleMedia, not CBS. Fremantle owns the show, 'member? I don't see where the TPIR emcee job is CBS' to use as a bargaining chip with a local yokel who has no prior experience doing game shows. This story also implies that all of these Harrah's shows have turned up naught in terms of a replacement for Barker.
Will TPIR continue without Barker? You bet. If not for Barker's leviathan ego, an orderly transition should be arranged to a new emcee while Barker still has the strength to pass the microphone, rather than after he buys the farm. The notion that the show cannot succeed without Barker is hogwash.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'122202\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 12:39 AM\']
I have not one friggin' idea who Dave Price is.
Which is why there is no way in nine blue hells this rumor has a single shred of accuracy to it.
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Gawd.
I knew Dave Price as a weather guy at WBBM/Chicago (he was a high profile hire who turned out to be a dud but managed to get a network gig anyway).
OTOH, some good TV personalities came out of weather--Pat Sajak, David Letterman, Rich Fields. . .
OK, two out of three ain't bad. :-)
Doug
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Include Pat Finn and the count evens to 2 and 2.
I guess Dave Price is decent based on what little of him I watch, but I'd have my doubts about him on a high-energy show like Price, which already has one weatherman to its credit (more than two and the show would have to become "The Climate's Right"). Besides, he looks too much like a grown-up Milhouse.
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'122228\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 04:52 AM\']
Of course, Conan O'Brien's name was on the tip of everyone's tongue when it came time to find Letterman's replacement at NBC.
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Point absolutely taken, but you must admit that's the exception rather than the rule.
I'd also suggest that the Price gig is higher-profile (and therefore in need of a better-recognized name) than a 12:30a talk show.
I'm not suggesting that Dave Price couldn't do the job. But then, I think I could do the job too. And either hire would make about as much sense.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122245\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 10:05 AM\']
The notion that the show cannot succeed without Barker is hogwash.
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Everything you said before that I'm with, except for this. I think we should identify what is defined by the word "succeed". If you mean have a long, healthy run (say 10+ years) on television post-Barker, I don't necessarily believe so. People are going to equate this show with Bob for some time (as well they should), and odds are when someone new comes along the look and feel of the show will greatly modernize. Gradual change has worked for the show...complete overhaul (think Mr. Davidson's version) not so much.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'122279\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 01:22 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122245\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 10:05 AM\']
The notion that the show cannot succeed without Barker is hogwash.
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Everything you said before that I'm with, except for this. I think we should identify what is defined by the word "succeed". If you mean have a long, healthy run (say 10+ years) on television post-Barker, I don't necessarily believe so. People are going to equate this show with Bob for some time (as well they should), and odds are when someone new comes along the look and feel of the show will greatly modernize. Gradual change has worked for the show...complete overhaul (think Mr. Davidson's version) not so much.
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No, I can't prove it, but you're absolutely wrong on this. This is a cash cow that will likely remain on the CBS schedule until CBS feels that it's local affiliates can completely run daytime better than them. Replacing Bob with an unknown entity will only save CBS millions in production costs. And if someone pulls a Rolf, they'll replace em and do it again, until they get it (not right, but rather) cost efficient.
The same can be said for Pat, Vanna, Alex, Regis, Kellly, Jeff Probst, Howie, and everyone else who tries to wrangle big money as the 'star' of a show. The days of 'host' being the most important entity on a game show are long over. The shows may not be going anywhere, but the hosts will.
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I'd also suggest that the Price gig is higher-profile (and therefore in need of a better-recognized name) than a 12:30a talk show.
Are you kidding? Watch Conan some time. He ain't exactly selling diabetes supplies, Medicare supplements and mobility scooters.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122285\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 01:50 PM\']
I'd also suggest that the Price gig is higher-profile (and therefore in need of a better-recognized name) than a 12:30a talk show.
Are you kidding? Watch Conan some time. He ain't exactly selling diabetes supplies, Medicare supplements and mobility scooters.
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He isn't? I thought the masturbating bear promoted the effects of diabetes...
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The notion that the show cannot succeed without Barker is hogwash.
Everything you said before that I'm with, except for this.
Sorry, it's already been proven. A good friend of this board explained to me that the audiences at the live shows get every bit as frenzied about TPIR at Harrah's as they do at studio 33, even though a) they're not going to be on TV, b) the odds are that they won't win any prizes, and c) they're not going to see Barker. This last one surprised me as it shoots the theory that TPIR audiences come to Hollywood to idolize Barker. With Bob out of the way they can pay the new emcee a fraction of Barker's salary and go back to a three-day taping schedule which will save them close to if not more than $1 million per year. TPIR can continue with the same geriatric accounts it has now (Procter & Gamble and S.C. Johnson don't buy TPIR) but with a much higher profit margin.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122288\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 02:06 PM\']
The notion that the show cannot succeed without Barker is hogwash.
Everything you said before that I'm with, except for this.
Sorry, it's already been proven. A good friend of this board explained to me that the audiences at the live shows get every bit as frenzied about TPIR at Harrah's as they do at studio 33, even though a) they're not going to be on TV, b) the odds are that they won't win any prizes, and c) they're not going to see Barker. This last one surprised me as it shoots the theory that TPIR audiences come to Hollywood to idolize Barker. With Bob out of the way they can pay the new emcee a fraction of Barker's salary and go back to a three-day taping schedule which will save them close to if not more than $1 million per year. TPIR can continue with the same geriatric accounts it has now (Procter & Gamble and S.C. Johnson don't buy TPIR) but with a much higher profit margin.
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But there's enough familiarity in place *similar set and props* to appease folks. I really doubt that whoever takes over after Bob is going to inherit the same set and feel that the current daytime version has.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'122293\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 11:38 AM\']
But there's enough familiarity in place *similar set and props* to appease folks. I really doubt that whoever takes over after Bob is going to inherit the same set and feel that the current daytime version has.
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Why wouldn't they? What fool is going to say "Yeah, I'll take the Price job. But you HAVE TO CHANGE THE SET."?
They would incur the added expense necessary to change the set if they thought it would improve the viewership of the show. And, this just in: they seem to be doing just fine there.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122285\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 10:50 AM\']
Are you kidding? Watch Conan some time. He ain't exactly selling diabetes supplies, Medicare supplements and mobility scooters.
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Sure. But Conan didn't catch on and gain acceptance for the first year or two, either, remember. And in 1993 in the 12:30a time slot, a network was willing to give someone time to catch on. Do you seriously see CBS giving a new unknown host in this day and age two years catch on? 'Cuz I don't.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'122296\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 11:47 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122285\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 10:50 AM\']
Are you kidding? Watch Conan some time. He ain't exactly selling diabetes supplies, Medicare supplements and mobility scooters.
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Sure. But Conan didn't catch on and gain acceptance for the first year or two, either, remember. And in 1993 in the 12:30a time slot, a network was willing to give someone time to catch on. Do you seriously see CBS giving a new unknown host in this day and age two years catch on? 'Cuz I don't.
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You miss the point entirely. First, TPIR is Fremantle's property, not CBS'. Second, NBC's Late Night franchise attracts major advertising accounts (beer, cars and movies largely) while TPIR doesn't even attact the household products accounts (P&G, S.C. Johnson, CP) that it used to. Conan sells Lexuses while Barker sells The Scooter Store. Which show do you think is considered the bigger deal by its respective network brass?
Fremantle will audition some new emcees, among whom might be some of the Harrah's emcees and even Rich Fields, Barker will point to his successor and utter "Rosebud" before going into eternal slumber.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122300\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 12:58 PM\']
You miss the point entirely.
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I'm not sure I miss it so much as I think we may be making two different ones. But your comments are well-taken.
Fremantle will audition some new emcees, among whom might be some of the Harrah's emcees and even Rich Fields, Barker will point to his successor and utter "Rosebud" before going into eternal slumber.
Which begs the question: WILL Barker even do that? I'm not sure his ego will allow him to believe that it's a torch that CAN be passed. He might just do the show until he croaks (probably after missing an Inspiration Putt*) and then Fremantle will have to decide what to do with absolutely no Seal Of Approval. (Not that such a Seal is necessary in the least, but I'm just sayin'.)
* /ratfarts!
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You know, I don't watch the show these days (haven't for about 25 years, I think), but it seems to me that it would show a little class and and a lot of grace on Barker's part to do the same thing for **his** replacement that Ralph Edwards did for him on "T or C", back in the 50s. Which I consider to be one of the nicest hosting transitions that I've ever seen... right up there with Garry M. & Joe G. on TTTT.
From all accounts, though, that seems-- shall we say, **unlikely** to happen.
-Kevin
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But keep in mind.. they had a whole "temp auditions" period for Rod's replacement.. but then Rich got the position.
Now, take the GSM - it was a super surprize that RICKI LAKE was chosen for the Marathon rather than Todd Newton, yet it happened. They decided to teach someone so distant from game shows the methods to hosting a game show - yet they totally bypass the guy that would have run CIRCLES around them, with almost little need for rehearsals.
You can't tell me that CBS doesn't have their hand in the cookie jar when it comes to saying who or what goes on with the show.. every production company out there has to answer to the higher brass of the network - since they are the ones ultimately held accountable for what happens when someone tunes to their channels.
So would Dave Price REALLY be that much of a stretch? It's just like saying why did Conan sign a deal to host the Tonight Show in FIVE YEARS.. what happens if he gets tired of this circuit in three? WhatEVER would the Tonight Show do!!
Last I remember Barker being interviewed - he's on a year-to-year contract basis. (Correct me if I'm wrong) But could CBS just turn around and do what they did to Rather? "Well Bob, we really appreciate you bringing all the viewership and ratings to our network.. and you've been a great asset.. BUT it's time for you to go; we're not renewing your contract. Enjoy retirement.. get out."
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'122303\' date=\'Jun 23 2006, 03:13 PM\']
Which begs the question: WILL Barker even do that? I'm not sure his ego will allow him to believe that it's a torch that CAN be passed. He might just do the show until he croaks (probably after missing an Inspiration Putt*) and then Fremantle will have to decide what to do with absolutely no Seal Of Approval.
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I don't know, for some reason I'm thinking of the end of the movie "Network."
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But could CBS just turn around and do what they did to Rather? "Well Bob, we really appreciate you bringing all the viewership and ratings to our network.. and you've been a great asset.. BUT it's time for you to go; we're not renewing your contract. Enjoy retirement.. get out."
Did you not read what I posted before? Are you even aware that I used to work in daytime network television? First, please explain how a contract can be voided by someone who is not a party to that contract. How can a contract between Bob Barker and FremantleMedia be voided by CBS? Yes, CBS could cancel the show (which is a cash cow for them) and that would result in a gigantic P.R. gaffe: "CBS cancels TPIR because Barker won't step down".
Joe Schmoe is the head of research and development for Intel. Apple president Steve Jobs comes along and tells him, "Well Bob Joe, we really appreciate you bringing all the viewership innovation and ratings cutting-edge technology to our network products.. and you've been a great asset.. BUT it's time for you to go; we're not renewing your contract. Enjoy retirement.. get out."
Is there not something wrong with the above picture? Would the words "Blow me, Jobs, I don't have an employment contract with you" not be appropriate?
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[quote name=\'MrGameShow\' post=\'122354\' date=\'Jun 24 2006, 11:12 AM\']
But keep in mind.. they had a whole "temp auditions" period for Rod's replacement.. but then Rich got the position.
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you know I've had it with the way this very talented announcer has been taken to task on this board. After Johnny Olsen died there was a time where Gene Wood was fill in before an unknown named "Rod Roddy" took over.
OK kids, where is your "evidence" that Rich Fields is not qualified for this job, or at least is less qualified than someone else. Evidence being the key word, please show how his vocal talents are lesser than some other hack.
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'122428\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 02:06 AM\']
you know I've had it with the way this very talented announcer has been taken to task on this board. After Johnny Olsen died there was a time where Gene Wood was fill in before an unknown named "Rod Roddy" took over.
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Where's your evidence that he was "unknown"? Wasn't he the narrator on Soap?
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'122428\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 12:06 AM\']
After Johnny Olsen died there was a time where Gene Wood was fill in before an unknown named "Rod Roddy" took over.
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Um, he wasn't unknown. In the least.
please show how his vocal talents are lesser than some other hack.
He screams. (This makes him a very good match for Rikki Lake.) He doesn't know where to enunciate. I'm told his warmup is wholly unremarkabke. There were better candidates. We SAW better candidates. (One of them posts to this board.)
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He screams.
I cringe at Rich Fields' "COME ON DOOOOOOOWN!" every time Gameshow Marathon commences. It's so freaking grating.
--Jamie
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'122428\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 02:06 AM\']
you know I've had it with the way this very talented announcer has been taken to task on this board. [/quote]
If you seem to be having a problem with discussion about a game show announcer on a game show forum, there's certainly nothing forcing you to continue reading posts that apparently clash with your view of things. Last time I checked Our Beloved Executive Producing Overlords weren't holding you at gunpoint and forcing you to read the board.
[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'122428\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 02:06 AM\'] After Johnny Olsen died there was a time where Gene Wood was fill in [/quote]
And a list of about a half-dozen others....
[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'122428\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 02:06 AM\']
before an unknown named "Rod Roddy" took over.
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Soap, for which Rod first gained any attention, debuted ten years earlier, and was well into rerun syndication at that point. A lot of people fondly remember that show, and anyone who heard more than three seconds of any of his other work could probably connect him with "the announcer on Soap". And don't forget about that little show called Press Your Luck...
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Initially, I admit, I didn't think Rich's TPiR work was that bad...but after two-plus years, it's getting old - he can give all the importance and gusto in the world to a toaster, then fall flat on a car in the same show. Of the announcers to try out for the job after Rod's death, Rich definitely wasn't the worst, but I can think of at least three or four who were better based on the on-air performances (yes, including the obvious one).
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'122425\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 12:14 AM\']
I don't know, for some reason I'm thinking of the end of the movie "Network."
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So who opens fire, Barker's Beauties or their lawyers?
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'122428\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 02:06 AM\']
you know I've had it with the way this very talented announcer has been taken to task on this board. After Johnny Olsen died there was a time where Gene Wood was fill in before an unknown named "Rod Roddy" took over.
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Many of those on the board I am sure agree with you that Rich Fields *is* a talanted annoucer. However, most announcers don't fit with every announcing job out there. Just like how game show hosts are not a good fit for *every* game show. Simply put, Rich Fields is not that good of a fit on TPiR. Another example of a poor announcer/show fit, IMHO was John Kramer doing "The Newlywed Game". He sounded too abrasive and loud, yet when he did "The Weakest Link", he was an excellent fit.
In regards to Ron Roddy being an "unknown" prior to succeeding Johnny Olsen on TPIR, lets look at Rod's resume as to shows heard or seen across the entire country:
• SOAP
• WHEW!
• HIT MAN
• BATTLESTARS
• PRESS YOUR LUCK (EDIT -- How did I forget this one initially???)
• THE NEWLYWED GAME (special ABC Week)
not to mention a few fill-in gigs and pilot ep gigs.
Now lets look at Rich Fields' *national* resume, Pre-TPiR:
<crickets chirping>
I rest my case.
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Many of those on the board I am sure agree with you that Rich Fields *is* a talanted annoucer. However, most announcers don't fit with every announcing job out there. Just like how game show hosts are not a good fit for *every* game show. Simply put, Rich Fields is not that good of a fit on TPiR.
I can't imagine a show where his over-the-top delivery, his shouting, his sustaining of every long vowel and his exaggerated inflection would be appropriate. All of those things are within his control. If he would just turn off the vocal gimmickery he might be halfway decent.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'122438\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 08:53 AM\']
In regards to Ron Roddy being an "unknown" prior to succeeding Johnny Olsen on TPIR, lets look at Rod's resume as to shows heard or seen across the entire country:
• SOAP
• WHEW!
• HIT MAN
• BATTLESTARS
• PRESS YOUR LUCK (EDIT -- How did I forget this one initially???)
• THE NEWLYWED GAME (special ABC Week)
not to mention a few fill-in gigs and pilot ep gigs.
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Happens to the best of us.
Was Rod doing both concurrently, or was PYL cancelled when Rod got the TPiR job (I always forget)?
Doug
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122441\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 09:15 AM\']
I can't imagine a show where his over-the-top delivery, his shouting, his sustaining of every long vowel and his exaggerated inflection would be appropriate.
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WWE?
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'122433\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 06:13 AM\']
Soap, for which Rod first gained any attention, debuted ten years earlier[/quote]
Just a simple correction, it was eight years earlier at the time. However, that doesn't make your point incorrect, as I remember that Rod got A LOT of voice-over work to do, and he was also on T.V. a lot promoting the show (He was one of its biggest fans.), so it's hard for fans to not remember him as the Soap announcer. Plus he was using that voice on Press Your Luck, so if they didn't recognize him on Soap, they'll surely remember him from Press Your Luck, which was on I believe 30 MINUTES before TPiR...
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122427\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 02:54 AM\']
Did you not read what I posted before? Are you even aware that I used to work in daytime network television? First, please explain how a contract can be voided by someone who is not a party to that contract. How can a contract between Bob Barker and FremantleMedia be voided by CBS? [/quote]
I don't think CBS will void a contract over this....but hell, in this day and age, stranger things have happened.
With all due respect, Chris, I think the rules have changed a little. You're absolutely right in who Barker does his dealings with, and who ultimately cuts the checks..... However, if and when Barker hangs it up, AND CBS decides to keep the cash cow going, CBS is 'likely' going to 'suggest' who they'd like to see try out for the role of host on TPIR. And 'likely', Dave Price's name is going to be 'suggested'. He's not a local yokel as you called him, he's the nationally-seen weatherman on the same networks daily early morning news show.
Now, whether or not Fremantle listens to CBS is another story. But i'd bet good money that the selection of the new host of TPIR will be handled A LOT differently than it used to be. Which I'm assuming in the good old days of G/T, B/E, H/Q, and the rest, was "Here's a show we have in Development : X will be hosting it."
Thinking back to the way LMAD 2004 was developed, I remember an uproar here over the massive list of folks who should have been selected to host the show instead of Billy Bush..... he was picked because that's who NBC wanted, not Monty. And ultimately, we know who got the final call....
I honestly (and unfortunately) believe that CBS will try the same forceful stunt when Barker retires.
Matt (who, on the record, thinks Dave Price is WRONG for the show. So is Rich Fields as host).
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'122442\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 10:17 AM\']
Was Rod doing both concurrently, or was PYL cancelled when Rod got the TPiR job (I always forget)?
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Seems like it might've been concurrent. He started TPiR around early-1986, didn't he? January/February? PYL would've had about 9 months left.
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Something that's been bugging me...
I can totally see CBS pushing for the "Early Show" weatherman to get the Price gig, but when his last name is PRICE, you're just asking for viewers to dismiss it as being a corny stunt that he got the job because of his last name.
If they want to promote (and cross-promote!) from within, Saturday co-anchor Russ Mitchell would be a stronger choice.
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The way the linked-to post was framed, Dave Price was "lured" to CBS by being offered Barker's job (with FremantleMedia) starting with the 2009 season. First, this tells us that Barker will be unconditionally forced out by the 2009 season, i.e. his retirement is a done deal in 2009. Second, it tells us that all of the Harrah's emcees who have been honing their skills on the stage show have been dealt out of the job. Third, it tells us that CBS is using employment with an outside contractor as a bargaining chip for employment with CBS. Fourth, it tells us that every executive at Fremantle has gone into a coma to allow CBS to dictate that an unknown quantity with zero emcee or live audience experience will take over their mainstay U.S. game show. Fifth, the fact that we are hearing about this from an Internet gossip page and not directly from the parties involved is just a tad bit questionable. Yes, improbable things have happened before, but if this one comes to pass the TV business is in worse shape than we all thought.
Billy Bush..... he was picked because that's who NBC wanted, not Monty. And ultimately, we know who got the final call....
Neither you nor I were privy to the negotiations, but it's possible that Monty (the producer) couldn't come up with anyone better. LMAD was a limited series to begin with, and we all saw how Billy Bush worked out.
Had Puzzlers gone to series in 1980, the emcee would have been one Pat Sajak, who likewise had zero game show experience at the time. The stakes would have been much lower with Puzzlers, which may or may not have lasted 26-weeks (or as it turns out, not at all). With TPIR you're talking about replacing an emcee who has been associated with the show for 30+ years, and a show with much higher visibility at that.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'122451\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 10:35 AM\']
Something that's been bugging me...
I can totally see CBS pushing for the "Early Show" weatherman to get the Price gig, but when his last name is PRICE, you're just asking for viewers to dismiss it as being a corny stunt that he got the job because of his last name.
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Hmmm...think Randy West might want to change his last name to Right?
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'122428\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 03:06 AM\']
you know I've had it with the way this very talented announcer has been taken to task on this board. [/quote]
If Rich Fields is "very talented," Patrick Wayne was the best host in the history of Tic Tac Dough.
(And this is from someone who doesn't mind Rich all that much, but still feels he shouldn't have gotten the job.)
OK kids, where is your "evidence" that Rich Fields is not qualified for this job, or at least is less qualified than someone else. Evidence being the key word, please show how his vocal talents are lesser than some other hack.
Look at some of the people he was up against, and ask me that question again.
If that's not "evidence," I don't know what is.
While Rich may be a fair announcer, I can think of at least 20 other announcers who would have been better suited for the job.
As far as I'm concerned, narzo, you have no right to criticize any of us.
As a matter of fact, if anyone has noticed, narzo's had one of his posts cited by Harvey and Chartier as their reason why they consider their board superior to ours. Why? Because the message they've apparently gotten from your post is that we don't deal with trolls, and they feel that because of that they should be let back on the board (although we all know it's not the only reason).
So, narzo, why don't you do us all a favor and take a hike. And take Soria with you, please.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'122471\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 01:20 PM\']
So, narzo, why don't you do us all a favor and take a hike. And take Soria with you, please.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that telling Narzo to leave because you don't like his opinion is just as hypocritical as Narzo himself telling us to stop bagging on Rich Fields because he doesn't agree with our opinion of him.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'122471\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 03:20 PM\']
So, narzo, why don't you do us all a favor and take a hike. And take Soria with you, please.
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I was with you until this. This is completely unfair. Soria's a tool and gets off on being one; narzo just expressed an opinion. While it is an unpopular one, it's a valid one. He shouldn't be chastized for thinking Rich Fields is being treated harshly since he's obviously a fan.
I will add this--no, Rich Fields isn't the most qualified, and he could be better. But I think though we as a community are so harsh on him because the brass passed up an obviously more qualified candidate that posts here frequently.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' post=\'122475\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 04:54 PM\']
I was with you until this. This is completely unfair. Soria's a tool and gets off on being one; narzo just expressed an opinion. While it is an unpopular one, it's a valid one. He shouldn't be chastized for thinking Rich Fields is being treated harshly since he's obviously a fan.
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I wasn't chastizing narzo because of his opinion. It is valid, and he is entitled to it. I don't agree with it entirely, but I don't deny him it. (Maybe I shouldn't have lumped him together with Soria, but still.)
And in response to you, Chris, I wasn't telling narzo to take a hike because of his opinion.
What I was chastizing narzo for was the post in question that I cited before (in which he called us all "brats"). Harvey noted it recently on ATGS as another example of his perceived hypocrisy of Matt, Dave, and Chris in banning him from the board for being a troll, yet allowing people whom he (and only he) considers trolls to continue posting.
Those were my reasons- take them for whatever you feel they're worth.
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[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'122428\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 02:06 AM\']
[quote name=\'MrGameShow\' post=\'122354\' date=\'Jun 24 2006, 11:12 AM\']
But keep in mind.. they had a whole "temp auditions" period for Rod's replacement.. but then Rich got the position.
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you know I've had it with the way this very talented announcer has been taken to task on this board. After Johnny Olsen died there was a time where Gene Wood was fill in before an unknown named "Rod Roddy" took over.
OK kids, where is your "evidence" that Rich Fields is not qualified for this job, or at least is less qualified than someone else. Evidence being the key word, please show how his vocal talents are lesser than some other hack.
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Wait a sec here. First off, what we do know is Johnny Olson and "Hot Rod" were professional announcers before their time on TPIR. Rich Fields is a friggin' meteorologist by trade. At least he might be better at meteorology than some of the schlubs that claim to be doing so in Dallas.
Rich isn't that bad on the surface. It is possible that the same people behind Whammy (and Newton's behavior) are behind Fields' delivery, and thus he sounds so crackin' high pitch to some of you.
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I think Rich Fields would do better hosting a show than annoucing one.
The guy this topic is about, I dislike I can get both NBC and CBS morning shows here in the UK on my satellite dish, and his hosting style is bleh, much better just to switch over to NBC and watch Al Rocker :D
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'122478\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 05:11 PM\']
What I was chastizing narzo for was the post in question that I cited before (in which he called us all "brats"). Harvey noted it recently on ATGS as another example of his perceived hypocrisy of Matt, Dave, and Chris in banning him from the board for being a troll, yet allowing people whom he (and only he) considers trolls to continue posting.
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Excuse me? You're worried about the opinion of a guy who traveled several hundred miles just to sneak back onto a board where he's not wanted, and who truly believes that his alleged "right" to post to that board is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States of America?
If you're going to criticize narzo for posting something that provokes Harvey, then we might as well shut down the whole damn board now, because Harvey considers the mere existence of this board, of some of its members, and of the moderators to be provocation.
Criticize narzo's post if you must (and I'm not thrilled with the characterization of our membership as "brats" either), but your criticism should be based on the post's merits or lack thereof, not on what a bigoted, obsessed, drooling knuckledragger from Dayton thinks.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'122457\' date=\'Jun 25 2006, 01:22 PM\']
The way the linked-to post was framed, Dave Price was "lured" to CBS by being offered Barker's job (with FremantleMedia) starting with the 2009 season. First, this tells us that Barker will be unconditionally forced out by the 2009 season, i.e. his retirement is a done deal in 2009. Second, it tells us that all of the Harrah's emcees who have been honing their skills on the stage show have been dealt out of the job. Third, it tells us that CBS is using employment with an outside contractor as a bargaining chip for employment with CBS. Fourth, it tells us that every executive at Fremantle has gone into a coma to allow CBS to dictate that an unknown quantity with zero emcee or live audience experience will take over their mainstay U.S. game show. Fifth, the fact that we are hearing about this from an Internet gossip page and not directly from the parties involved is just a tad bit questionable. Yes, improbable things have happened before, but if this one comes to pass the TV business is in worse shape than we all thought.
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Agreed on everything above, esp considering that, yes, we're basing this on internet speculation. Knowing Dave Price (not personally, but hey, we weathermen do travel in the same small circles), it would not surprise me at all that he's the one sharing the questionable 'fact' that he's getting TPIR when Bob stops. My point is simply that the CBS suits are silly enough to let him have a whack at it, despite better hosts being out there. Hell, i'd even go so far to bet that they attempt to pull something off like Julie Chen's double duty as hosts of both Early Show and Big Brother.
And yes, Chris, the TV business 'is' in worse shape than we think.
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I think Rich Fields would do better hosting a show than annoucing one.
That may indeed be the case. He does have experience emceeing state lottery shows (none of which I have seen) but I did see the clip he was in where the Big Wheel was moved. He does drop the cheesy announcer schtick when interacting with others on camera, which gives rise to the question, why not drop the cheesy announcer schtick all the time?