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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: entguy1 on June 08, 2006, 01:26:40 PM
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Let's be optimistic and say CBS brings GSM back next summer.
It's your job to pick six new games, six contestants (B- through D-level celebs) and ... do you keep Ricki???
Discuss...
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I already posted my suggestion here (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=10602&view=findpost&p=119569\").
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[quote name=\'entguy1\' post=\'120681\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 12:26 PM\']
Let's be optimistic and say CBS brings GSM back next summer.
It's your job to pick six new games, six contestants (B- through D-level celebs) and ... do you keep Ricki???
Discuss...
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Keep Rikki,drop the celeb contestants.
1. Joker's Wild
2.High Rollers
3.Password 60's version
4 $OTC
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If Chris Lemon isn't available to host and you have no other halfway capable people *checks the bottom of the list*, ah there's Ricki's name.
Let's be REALISTIC. It won't come back, I can almost bet good money on it. For all the time and trouble put forth to authenticate these games and to get mediocre ratings...I just don't see it coming back people.
Press Your Luck is going to be the closest thing we see to an intelligent game...there are going to be questions, right?
So, why the heck is someone thinking they'll do a question/answer game in a proposed future marathon? It would only make the celebs look bad, thus they wouldn't take a paycheck and waste their time on the matter...unless Leslie Nielsen's there.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'120689\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 02:08 PM\']
If Chris Lemon isn't available to host
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As much as I dislike spelling flames...
It's "G-a-m-e-s-h-o-w," not "G-a-z-p-a-c-h-o." Get it right next time. ;-)
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In spite of the fact that I'm actually pretty happy with most of everything that's been done on GSM (especially last night), It doesn't take a genius to see that the ratings aren't good enough to justify doing this again...unless they happen to have kept the sets and CBS has a bad season.
Regardless, If I were doing this, I would...
1. Keep Ricki, but add a Male Co-host for certain shows...
2. Make Randy West the announcer, as his voice fits nearly ANY game show....Rich has done very well, even on Price (my opinion) but I think Randy's better. EDIT: Come to think of it...Rich could be the male co-host..."
3. Have the celebrity who won their prizes surprise the winning person with the truck. Have Rich be the on-air personality.
4. Have each celeb play for an at-home contestant AND a studio contestant.
5. The lineup...Deal, BTC, Tattletales, PYL, CS,MG and Feud.
But that's just me...
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'120689\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 01:08 PM\']
Press Your Luck is going to be the closest thing we see to an intelligent game...there are going to be questions, right?
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You've got to be joking.
If PYL is an "intelligent game", then Hollywood Showdown is a MENSA convention.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'120692\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 11:38 AM\']
You've got to be joking.
If PYL is an "intelligent game", then Hollywood Showdown is a MENSA convention.
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Ah, hypocrisy.
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Two things:
1) David's idea of those six shows would not be physically possible. Having all six of those programs in the same studio would cause such a Black Hole of Suck that it would engulf the entire sound stage and everything for the next six blocks.
2) Press Your Luck can be played intelligently. And there have been people who have done so. Just because you don't like the show doesn't make it anything other than a show you don't like. There's no reason to impugn Hollywood Showdown just because you want to take a swipe at PYL.
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Maybe it's my optimistic view of this, but from the beginning, I thought PYL, TPIR, and FF would be the most recognized formats, and thus the 3 episodes that would do the best during GSM's run (thankfully, only one of those 3 has been played so far, and looking at the ratings, I really hope my prediction will come true)...
Thus, IMHO, I immediately think PYL, TPIR and FF should stay. MG and LMaD should stay too, but replace CS with HS, and have all of the ousted celebs up to that point serve as some of the squares, with maybe Peter Marshall or Tom Bergeron as the center square (the celebs have a shot at answering agree/disagree questions correctly, right?). Replace BTC with $25k Pyramid, and whichever 2 teams who win the first 2 rounds faceoff in the final round with their appointed partner. The first 2 Winner's Circles: $10k, the final Winner's Circle: $25k.
Maybe John O'Hurley could do better than Ricki, but that's the only person I can think of on the top of my head that would have a decent chance of doing well. Otherwise, keep Ricki, at least she'd have the first run of the series behind her belt...
Burton Richardson would be a good announcer, and you could theoretically have true contestants on the show instead of celebrities. It could be advertised as the ultimate test of contestants' true, all-encompassing, game show skill...
Seriously though, with the ratings not being the greatest, I don't see it coming back unless these next few shows blow our minds away... :(
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'120697\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 01:46 PM\']
2) Press Your Luck can be played intelligently. [/quote]
I'll give you one sentence to explain this statement...and how the show wasn't a bunch of goops who couldn't pass The $25,000 Pyramid audition to save their lives.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'120702\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 11:59 AM\']
I'll give you one sentence to explain this statement...and how the show wasn't a bunch of goops who couldn't pass The $25,000 Pyramid audition to save their lives.
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I don't believe Travis is beholden to you for anything.
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Mark:
Please note that FOXSportsFan didn't even call Press Your Luck an "intelligent game." He said it was "the closest thing to an intelligent game" (emphasis mine), which pretty much implies that he thinks it isn't one.
Are you so desperate for a reason to complain that you're willing to make one up?
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'120691\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 11:17 AM\']
...Rich could be the male co-host..."[/i]
3. Have the celebrity who won their prizes surprise the winning person with the truck. Have Rich be the on-air personality.
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Rich was actually the first choice of producers to travel and deliver the prizes. His TPIR taping schedule made that impossible, as well as being the reason he was not "in studio" for some of the tapings. I do like the idea of the celebrities being the ones to deliver prizes. Terrific thought, although probably not practical from a budget standpoint. I was at most every taping, and can tell you that tonights episode is not to be missed!
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The ones that come to my mind would be better titled "Quiz Show Marathon" because there's much more wits and smarts involved instead of the gimmicks, stunts and other influences that each of these seven have.
I'd go:
Password
Pyramid
Jeopardy
Joker's Wild
and, some lesser-knowns such as Go and Chain Reaction.
Heck, if they want to cross-promote with GSN, they could use Lingo.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'120690\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 02:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'120689\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 02:08 PM\']
If Chris Lemon isn't available to host[/quote]As much as I dislike spelling flames...
It's "G-a-m-e-s-h-o-w," not "G-a-z-p-a-c-h-o." Get it right next time. ;-)[/quote]Gazpacho Marathon? Nice try, Zink, but Celebrity Cooking Showdown failed.
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[quote name=\'SteveRep\' post=\'120716\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 02:55 PM\']
The ones that come to my mind would be better titled "Quiz Show Marathon" because there's much more wits and smarts involved instead of the gimmicks, stunts and other influences that each of these seven have.
I'd go:
Password
Pyramid
Jeopardy
Joker's Wild
and, some lesser-knowns such as Go and Chain Reaction.
Heck, if they want to cross-promote with GSN, they could use Lingo.
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If not for that little problem regarding the fact that all but one of those shows are owned by Sony.
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If they tried it again--and remember, this is the network that trots out "Big Brother" every summer, so there's a chance they'd give it another shot--the biggest issue is the contestants.
Not only are these six barely recognizable, there's barely any interaction between them.
The first few Celebrity WWTBAMs were enjoyable because there was banter, competitiveness and good-natured ribbing. You need funny people who know each other, like, say, the casts of Drew Carey's show or "Everybody Loves Raymond." For that matter, celebrity poker is fun to watch.
Maybe it's just because they seem to actually enjoy playing games, as opposed to this group.
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Tattletales and Password would work just fine for this.
My other two suggestions are Celebrity Sweepstakes and, a pretty obscure entry in the US, Call My Bluff. (No I'm not joking)
If they could wrestle with Burt Sugarman for the okay to produce an episode of 'Sweepstakes' for this, it might just click. As for the latter, from what I've seen of it, the US version of Call My Bluff could've been a nice little daytime staple if the bluffs weren't so freakin horrible. At least the UK seemed to get it right. It's also part of the Goodson-Todman library, so rights issues wouldn't be a problem.
--Jamie
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'120712\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 03:32 PM\']
Mark:
Please note that FOXSportsFan didn't even call Press Your Luck an "intelligent game." He said it was "the closest thing to an intelligent game" (emphasis mine), which pretty much implies that he thinks it isn't one.
Are you so desperate for a reason to complain that you're willing to make one up?
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Thank you, Zink. That was my point. It's the closest thing to an intelligent game in the marathon, which says nothing.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'120730\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 04:14 PM\']
Thank you, Zink. That was my point. It's the closest thing to an intelligent game in the marathon, which says nothing.
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I would argue that one would need a relative bit of intelligence to play FF well, but otherwise point well taken.
Doug -- and the countdown to 2000 continues
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'120731\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 05:20 PM\']
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'120730\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 04:14 PM\']
Thank you, Zink. That was my point. It's the closest thing to an intelligent game in the marathon, which says nothing.
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I would argue that one would need a relative bit of intelligence to play FF well, but otherwise point well taken.
Doug -- and the countdown to 2000 continues
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The only argument against Feud is you answering opinion based questions. Press Your Luck throws out 8 knowledge based...ok rudimentary knowledge...okay Stevie Wonder can see the answer-style knowledge questions.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'120733\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 04:31 PM\']
The only argument against Feud is you answering opinion based questions. [/quote]
Which I think takes a little bit of intelligence to pull off. Doesn't mean you're gonna get the answers right every time, but you have a better shot than one not so brainy.
YMMV.
Doug -- and the countdown to 2000 continues
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'120720\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 04:17 PM\']
If not for that little problem regarding the fact that all but one of those shows are owned by Sony.[/quote]
I knew I left something out. I was going to preface my idea with a 'inconsiderate of who-owns-what' disclaimer.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'120702\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 11:59 AM\']
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'120697\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 01:46 PM\']
2) Press Your Luck can be played intelligently. [/quote]
I'll give you one sentence to explain this statement...and how the show wasn't a bunch of goops who couldn't pass The $25,000 Pyramid audition to save their lives.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'120705\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 12:04 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'120702\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 11:59 AM\']
I'll give you one sentence to explain this statement...and how the show wasn't a bunch of goops who couldn't pass The $25,000 Pyramid audition to save their lives.
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I don't believe Travis is beholden to you for anything.
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I'm not, and Mark's reply indicates that he has no interest in my reply. Here goes anyway, for the rest of the group.
Any game can be played intelligently, even if it's not what you would call "An intelligent game" (Which you can't, because intelligence is a trait only found in people and animals). Even so, players could count the number of whammies on the board, and stop when that number is one or two. Use risk analysis to figure out when to pass or when to play. If one player has built up a big spin lead, buzz in early on the fourth question to kill the 3-spin bonus. There are lots of things that can be done to swing the odds in your favor; it so happens that most people chose not to employ those strategies.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'120736\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 05:02 PM\']
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'120733\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 04:31 PM\']
The only argument against Feud is you answering opinion based questions. [/quote]
Which I think takes a little bit of intelligence to pull off. Doesn't mean you're gonna get the answers right every time, but you have a better shot than one not so brainy.[/quote]
And any moron can turn over the top half of a six-answer-plus board. It gets a little harder when you're trying to turn over the bottom of the board.
And it all depends on the material. Now if they had "name a type of philosophy" or "name an element on the Periodic Table..."
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Here goes. As SteveR said, I'm pretending we can get clearances to play all the games. First, get players who can play. Second, I'm okay with Ricki continuing.
Day 1: Pyramid With three games, everyone can play twice. (If they happen to choose three male celebs and three female, naturally you set it up so that all pairings consist of one male, one female.) Teams split the money they win, and the player who wins the most money is that night's winner.
Day 2: SP/P+, but it would just be identified as Password. I figure you'd have time for five puzzles and five bonus rounds, with pairings like this:- Game 1: A&B v. C&D, E sits out
- Game 2: A&C v. B&E, D sits out
- Game 3: B&C v. D&E, A sits out
- Game 4: A&D v. C&E, B sits out
- Game 5: A&E v. B&D, C sits out
Each puzzle is followed by the Alphabetics round. As with Pyramid, teams split their winnings, and the person with the most winnings is that day's winner. (Obviously, if a puzzle is unsolved, we can edit it out.)
Day 3: Scrabble, with the format that they used when games were self-contained
Day 4: WoF
Day 5 or 6: Concentration The one whose prize total is the highest wins.
Day 5 or 6: High Rollers, 2 of 3 games wins
Day 7: Hollywood Squares, self-contained version
My preference would be to include the four losing celebrities among the nine squares.
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I don't know about that Password setup, man. Not that I'm a genius on this topic, but I don't think anybody would allow 5 bonus rounds to be played on one show, even if it is a hour- it's overkill. You have to put something in the second half of the hour that will make viewers want to keep watching.
My quick suggestion? Put Password on Day 3 instead. Have the contestants paired with other celebrities in a tournament format similar to Beat The Clock's, where the bonus round is played by the winner at the end of the show.
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Using Fremantle-owned formats, here's my line-up:
Day 1: The Price is Right (Grand Game, Cliffhangers, One Away)
Day 2: Scrabble (With the one who lost the Showcase Showdown acting as "champion," and the three celebrities remaining in Contestants' Row. Each game won is $500, on top of any bonuses. Bonus Sprint is played for $25,000, or a "fast" car priced somewhere around $30,000.)
Day 3: Distraction (obviously, with stunts clean enough for primetime television.)
Day 4: Press Your Luck
Day 5: Match Game (PM format)
Day 6: Hollywood Squares (I like the idea of using the eliminated celebrities, except I'd add them to the Match Game panel for our 9 squares, with the one who got eliminated in Match Game becoming the center square.)
Day 7: Family Feud
As for celebrities, I'd get anybody I can get, as long as their names aren't Kathy Griffin or Leslie Nielsen.
Also, all of these episodes would air in the span of one week, a la Millionaire and Deal.
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Here's my trip through Fantasy Island:
* The host is Wink Martindale---there could be an Orbitz tie-in
* The announcer is Charlie O'Donnell
* The contestants are NOT celebrities. They are former grand champions.
Brad Rutter, Thom McKee, Rob Griffin, John Hatten, John Goss, Dan Avila.
Sub three ladies for three men if it must be 50:50 guys to gals.
* Make 'em all quiz games.
* Audience members at home or charities share the winnings of the contestants.
* Shows: $otC, Split Second, The Challengers, Twenty One, Tic Tac Dough, Trivia Trap, History IQ.
Jeopardy! is not included since it's still on the air and I don't want to deal with the inevitable comparisons.
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CBS could keep everything in-house and re-do the Nick and MTV games with adult contestants, maybe locate Ken Ober and Jenny McCarthy for nostalgia's sake. The teens of 20 years ago are now pushing 40.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'121037\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 08:01 AM\']
Here's my trip through Fantasy Island:
* The host is Wink Martindale---there could be an Orbitz tie-in
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Okay, I don't understand why you want someone as a host that is a such a caricature that everybody would look on the series as a parody instead of an attempt to drum up interest in the genre.
* Shows:...History IQ
Huh? With all due respect...are you daft?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'121057\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 01:04 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'121037\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 08:01 AM\']
Here's my trip through Fantasy Island:
* The host is Wink Martindale---there could be an Orbitz tie-in
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Okay, I don't understand why you want someone as a host that is a such a caricature that everybody would look on the series as a parody instead of an attempt to drum up interest in the genre.
* Shows:...History IQ
Huh? With all due respect...are you daft?
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Chris, I assume you noticed who posted this...?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'121059\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 11:12 AM\']
Chris, I assume you noticed who posted this...?
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Yes. Is my Sarcasm Detector broken?
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How about commemorating eight games in seven weeks? (Let's assume the rights for most of these can be obtained, even if one or two may not.) Here are my ideas. I'm more or less happy with what's currently on; I'm just tweaking things a bit.
Celebrity contestants: Vicki Lawrence, George Foreman, Adam Carolla, Bruce Vilanch, Tracey Gold, Kirstie Alley, and Margaret Cho. That's right, seven players.
Episode 1: TPIR. Four pricing games - Ten Chances, It's in the Bag, Clock Game, and Switcheroo. Two SCSDs, winners to the Showcases, winner gets a finalist seat.
Episode 2: Beat the Clock. Of the 6 left, pair them off and run one stunt three times. The winning pair gets split up, competing against each other on a second stunt; winner gets a seat. Super Bonus Stunt ends the show.
Episode 3: LMAD. Big Deal winner (or biggest winner) gets a seat.
Episode 4: Card Sharks. 1 vs. 2, 3 vs. 4, winner vs. winner for the last seat. Finish with Money Cards and a survey of 10 associated people (I'm thinking circus performers) to win a car.
Episode 5: Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour. 1 vs. 2 and 3 vs. 4 in two rounds each of Match Game. Winners face each other in Hollywood Squares to go to the finals. End appropriately with the Super Match. (Obvious clearance problem here.)
Episode 6: Press Your Luck. (Make those prize squares easier to read, and fix the sound bugs on those Whammies, please.) The three losers from Episode 5 play to go to the finals.
Episode 7: Family Feud. Fast Money for $25,000 (or $10 a point).
Host: Todd Newton. (Let Ricki Lake do the prize van gig this time.)
Announcer: Rich Fields did well enough, but let's rotate announcers. Randy West and Burton Richardson can join in on the fun.
(I thought about either Scrabble for Ep 5 and MG/HSH for Ep 6, or Tattletales for Ep 6. The only reason I went with PYL was because of Mr. Newton.)
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[quote name=\'GiraffeBoy\' post=\'121078\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 03:45 PM\']
Episode 5: Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour. 1 vs. 2 and 3 vs. 4 in two rounds each of Match Game. Winners face each other in Hollywood Squares to go to the finals. End appropriately with the Super Match. (Obvious clearance problem here.)
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I don't think it would be that hard to license Hollywood Squares for a future Marathon. Remember; the Squares format is owned by King World, a CBS subsidiary. I would think that the owner of the network might loan out a format they own to another production company for a show to go on the network's air (right?).
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'121037\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 11:01 AM\']
* Audience members at home or charities share the winnings of the contestants.
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You notice the Perfesser is back on his rant about how GSM (or any game show that uses celebs) should have the contestants play for home viewers determined by postcards.
Exsqueeze me?
Do they even MAKE postcards anymore? Home viewer contests don't even use 900 numbers any more. Someone wake up the Perfesser, tell him it's not 1966 any more, and then we'll get back to business.
And besides which, with postcards, you have to have people send them in in advance of the taping. With an established, ongoing show, that's much easier to do, but it's NOT going to work for a short-flight miniseries that isn't even live.
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'121107\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 05:00 PM\']
You notice the Perfesser is back on his rant
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I thought the Perfesser had put himself on hiatus, after whining about how burnt out he was maintaining such a high-quality site (tee-hee) for so long. Did I miss something?
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[quote name=\'melman1\' post=\'121111\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 07:49 PM\']
[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'121107\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 05:00 PM\']
You notice the Perfesser is back on his rant
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I thought the Perfesser had put himself on hiatus, after whining about how burnt out he was maintaining such a high-quality site (tee-hee) for so long. Did I miss something?
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I think he's still doing his stuff once a week now, instead of every day.
Doug -- and the countdown to 2000 concludes
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A shame that Stevie B. Wrong is still deemed the source for game shows when he's about as accurate as Dick Cheney's aim on quail hunting.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'121135\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 10:55 PM\']
A shame that Stevie B. Wrong is still deemed the source for game shows when he's about as accurate as Dick Cheney's aim on quail hunting.
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Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
BTW, who deems him as the "source"?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'121144\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 09:24 PM\']
BTW, who deems him as the "source"?
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He does. And the media, being what they are, believes him.
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I don't see him as the be all end all source, it's just if there's a game show topic that makes it mainstream he gets interviewed for better or worse.
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I think he's still doing his stuff once a week now, instead of every day.
But some parts of his site (like FAQ for example) haven't bene updated in months...not that I'm looking, mind you...
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First, I'd make a slight change to the format. Since the point is not only to bring back game shows, and (of course) get ratings, but also to fill schedule time, I'd extend by one episode, and only air one a week. In addition, I'd like to have one 60 minute show prior to the first episode with the "clips" and "retrospectives". Even with 20 minutes of commercials, at eight games, you're talking 5 minutes per "retro". That should be long enough. This way, the beginning and end of each show could still feature the GSM theme and logos, but then immediately head from the "opening" to the "TV Screen opening shot" and that night's game, using all the official and correct music within the game play. If a game runs short, they could do some quick audience participation, or even save the "At Home Contest" for after the show. They could also place the "Prize Delivery" spot there as well, or put that in the commercial breaks.
As for the host, I'd like to try another woman, Vicki Lawrence. Since some games would require a co-host to fit the format, I'd also have Tom Bergeron. As for the players, Doris Roberts, Suzanne Pleshette, Caroline Rhea, Brad Garrett, Kevin James, and Jerry Stiller.
Game One:
Whew!
I'd use 3 sets of front rounds, and one "Gauntlet" for the hour. Let the Celeb who wins the most money in their game be Finalist #1, and play the Gauntlet for bonus money. Winner gets Finalist #1, regardless of bonus outcome. I'm thinking the lines would need to be $100 - $500, instead of $10 - $50, and also $2,500 - $3,500 - and $5,000 on the top line. I would also have $50,000 for the Gauntlet win, with $1,000 or $2,000 per villain if no win.
Game Two:
Super Password
Make the four highest non-winning scorers from Whew! play, and leave the low scorer (Celeb "E") sit out at first. Ties can be settled by coin toss. Instead of the $100-$200-$300-$400 progression, have it be a best 2 out of 3 puzzles wins $5,000 for each Celeb on the winning team(and no Ca$hword). At that point, Celeb "E", and Vicki make pairings with the winning team, splitting them apart, and Tom would host. New 2 out of 3 ensues. If Vicki and her teammate win, they play the bonus, with Tom hosting. If Celeb "E" and partner win, Tom and the winner play while Vicki returns to hosting, and Celeb "E" goes back to the "pool". Winning Celeb automatically gets Finalist #2. Since winning Celeb would have $10,000 (2 wins @ $5,000 ea.), make bonus worth $50,000, for a $60,000 payoff.
Game Three:
Body Language
Four remaining Celebs all play. Normal rules, except multiply amounts by 10. When the game finishes, Tom hosts at that point, and winning team splits, one with Vicki and one with a Celeb from the losing team. They play one "Winner Takes All" puzzle, with the winning team going to bonus for additional money. Tom takes over as partner, and Vicki hosts again if the team without her wins. Celeb who makes the bonus is Finalist #3.
Game Four:
Wheel Of Fortune
I know, it's on the air now. They did TPIR, why not Wheel? Normal rules apply, bonus wheel holds values from $25,000 to $50,000 in multiples of $5,000, as well as some cars. Winner advances as Finalist #4.
Game Five:
Hollywood Squares
One of the Male and one of the Female Celebs become Mr. X and Miss Circle for Hollywood Squares. The 2 Celebs who didn't make it through will join 7 others as the "Square" celebs, and Tom would host, with Vicki among those in the Squares. Winner is Grand Finalist #1.
Game Six:
Tic-Tac-Dough
Might as well have two similar games for the Finals, no? Money increased where needed, and the Dragon, Tic, Tac and money bonus used. Winner becomes Grand Finalist #2.
Game Seven:
Joker's Wild
Money increased as needed, "money" and Devils bonus game. Winning player automatically gets $75,000 for charity, wins additional $50,000 for "win" in bonus. $25,000 additional if devil is hit, therefore no stop rule. Celeb must play it out.
Game Eight:
($250,000) Pyramid
This would bring out the Grand Winner of the current season, against the Grand Winner of Season 2. Donny Osmond would team with Season 1's GW, and Tom Bergeron would team with Season 2's GW. Vicki would host. Celeb earns additional $25,000 for their charity by winning one game, thus $50,000 if they win both.
If the first Celeb wins the Pyramid, it makes an aggregate total of $250,000 in addition to all previous monies from their season (in other words, Pyramid is played for $225,000). If the $225,000 win happens, losing Celeb scores $75,000 additional for their charity, and Grand Finalist who lost from Season 2, and Grand Finalist who lost from Season 1 play second half for a $125,000 Pyramid shot. Both those players get an additional $50,000 for their charities, unless the winner clears the Pyramid.
If the First Celeb loses, second game is still with the Grand Winners, and game play goes as above, with winner attempting to make the aggregate $250,000 by clearing the Pyramid. If neither Celeb clears the Pyramid, player with the highest "money" total from their attempt wins an additional $125,000, and loser gets $75,000.
Questions, comments, etc?
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Ambitous, but a bit much...
Whew and Body Language are too obscure, with their relatively short runs.
Super Password would be cool, but many GS fans would cry foul and say Password Plus instead. Not me though.
Wheel of Fortune would be cool...but if retro is the big thing, why not shopping plus the new end game?
I've said it before and I'll say it again...B and E shows don't rerun or revive well.
And Pyramid is too cerebral for this retro-mindless show.
Like I said, ambitous, but just a bit too much.
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B and E shows don't rerun or revive well.
I'd say the 70s revivals of Joker's Wild and Tic Tac Dough did pretty well.
Just because Kline & Friends buggered it up in 1990 doesn't mean they don't revive well.
--Jamie
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'121750\' date=\'Jun 18 2006, 09:37 PM\']
B and E shows don't rerun or revive well.
I'd say the 70s revivals of Joker's Wild and Tic Tac Dough did pretty well.
Just because Kline & Friends buggered it up in 1990 doesn't mean they don't revive well.
--Jamie
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I knew this was coming...:-) Here's my argument.
I think that even if you were to revive Joker's Wild or Tic Tac Dough now with a modern set, a good host, decent questions and nice prizes, it would still be a one-season wonder.
I think those shows are the typical 70's game shows that don't require a lot of knowledge and are almost purely based on luck. Granted, So is Deal or No Deal, but DOND has that "newness" factor which I don't think TTD or JW could get simply because they've been done before.
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[quote name=\'PalCatIN\' post=\'121742\' date=\'Jun 18 2006, 05:33 PM\']
As for the players, Doris Roberts, Suzanne Pleshette, Caroline Rhea, Brad Garrett, Kevin James, and Jerry Stiller.
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Wow. Somebody REALLY loves Raymond.
And...Suzanne Pleshette? What are you promoting? Bob Newhart reruns from 1974?
Game One:
Whew!
You are aware that the idea here is to use game shows people have HEARD of, right? 'Cuz the geeks who would recognize Whew! are gonna watch regardless.
Game Three:
Body Language
Apparently not.
Questions, comments, etc?
I can sum it up in one word. That word is "no."
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'121750\' date=\'Jun 18 2006, 09:37 PM\']
B and E shows don't rerun or revive well.
I'd say the 70s revivals of Joker's Wild and Tic Tac Dough did pretty well.
Just because Kline & Friends buggered it up in 1990 doesn't mean they don't revive well.
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Both shows were on GSN for years. They must have been doing OK for them to stay on that long. Personally, I'd like to see them get another shot. Even if ratings dropped enough to force them off the schedule in 2003, maybe they'd do better now after a three-year break. Heck...they keep bringing back shows like Body Language, and that couldn't have done that well otherwise they wouldn't keep taking it off in the first place.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'121781\' date=\'Jun 19 2006, 09:03 AM\']
Even if ratings dropped enough to force TJW and TTD off the schedule in 2003, maybe they'd do better now after a three-year break.
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They last had regular berths on the GSN schedule in the SUmmer of 2001. TTD was on weekends only for more than a year prior.
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They last had regular berths on the GSN schedule in the SUmmer of 2001. TTD was on weekends only for more than a year prior.
Wow...has it really been that long? I'd say that after 5 years off the schedule they definately deserve another shot. I think the Barry-Enright library has gone longer without a single appearance on the regular schedule than any other library they have access to :(
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'121795\' date=\'Jun 19 2006, 10:13 AM\']
Wow...has it really been that long? I'd say that after 5 years off the schedule they definately deserve another shot. I think the Barry-Enright library has gone longer without a single appearance on the regular schedule than any other library they have access to :(
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Oh, darn.
The Barry-Enright shows are the ones that should remain sitting in the vault. I'd rather see stuff from the Bob Stewart library...simply because his shows required an IQ higher than 78.
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Ah, so Mark isn't the only one who gets irked everytime "Jumbled Words" pops up on Bullseye.
I A N B R
Jim Lange: Take a look behind you. Unscramble the letters to reveal something you don't need to be apart of this show.
Contestant: Brian?
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Not to mention the word "scrambles" that were oft a fixture of B&E shows kept more of the word in tact than really needed to be. ILOTP would not be out of the ordinary.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'121803\' date=\'Jun 19 2006, 09:45 AM\']Oh, darn.
The Barry-Enright shows are the ones that should remain sitting in the vault. I'd rather see stuff from the Bob Stewart library...simply because his shows required an IQ higher than 78.[/quote]What a shock. Rather than thinking critically, you go for the quick and dirty slam.
Did it occur to you that the questions on Barry's shows were designed to be easy? After "Twenty-one" was canned, that if the questions on "Joker's Wild" were that easy, there would be no charges of rigging. Even when something like a slot machine as the method of determining categories.
For that matter, look at the B&E shows as period pieces. That's what television was like back then. "Jeopardy!" has easy questions, as does "Millionaire." One of my favorite quiz shows, "Temptation," has asked brain burners like "What world river is the anagram of 'line'?" But I still enjoy it. Not in spite of that. It's part of the show. B&E shows were popular then, and Game Show Network owners would get a chance to relive (or see for the first time) a classic part of game show history.
But then you couldn't go off on your "This requires an IQ higher than (some number)" line, which seems to be the only bullet in your gun. Your loss, really.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'121814\' date=\'Jun 19 2006, 01:19 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'121803\' date=\'Jun 19 2006, 09:45 AM\']Oh, darn.
The Barry-Enright shows are the ones that should remain sitting in the vault. I'd rather see stuff from the Bob Stewart library...simply because his shows required an IQ higher than 78.[/quote]What a shock. Rather than thinking critically, you go for the quick and dirty slam.
Did it occur to you that the questions on Barry's shows were designed to be easy? After "Twenty-one" was canned, that if the questions on "Joker's Wild" were that easy, there would be no charges of rigging. Even when something like a slot machine as the method of determining categories.[/quote]
However, it did seem to me that the questions on the early network years of "TJW" were a little more challenging than what the syndication B&E shows ended up with.
The basic formats of the B&E shows are very solid and if given the chance, I would try to revive them in a instant. Unfortunately, the actual shows themselves have not held up well, compared to some other shows of the period, due to material and production, not to mention the extremely weak end games. It's my opinion, but watching those shows again when I first got GSN bears me out--and I don't think my view would've changed during the time since GSN stopped airing them.
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[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'121026\' date=\'Jun 11 2006, 02:12 AM\']
I don't know about that Password setup, man. Not that I'm a genius on this topic, but I don't think anybody would allow 5 bonus rounds to be played on one show, even if it is a hour- it's overkill. You have to put something in the second half of the hour that will make viewers want to keep watching.
My quick suggestion? Put Password on Day 3 instead. Have the contestants paired with other celebrities in a tournament format similar to Beat The Clock's, where the bonus round is played by the winner at the end of the show.
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Truth be told, I only put it there because
1. It was easier to fit in as a 5-player game than anything else, but you could just say that the least-winning celeb from Day 1 sits out.
2. Doing it this way gives you greater control over the playing time. Two best-of-three matches could take a long time or a short time.
Now I'm thinking it could still work with five players, except it would go like this:
Puzzle 1 A&B v C&D. Let's say A&B solve it. (E is the low-scoring player from Day 1.)
Puzzle 2 A&E v. B&C, where A is the higher-scoring of A&B and C is the higher-scoring of C&D from Day 1.
Puzzle 3 and after: Split the team that solved the previous puzzle. Whichever of those players has solved more puzzles is partnered with the person who sat out the previous puzzle. The first player to solve three puzzles plays Alphabetics with the partner on that third puzzle.
Alphabetics: The winner is playing for $1,000 per word or $50,000 for all ten; the player who got him there is playing for a flat $1,000 per word.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'121795\' date=\'Jun 19 2006, 11:13 AM\']
Wow...has it really been that long? I'd say that after 5 years off the schedule they definately deserve another shot. I think the Barry-Enright library has gone longer without a single appearance on the regular schedule than any other library they have access to :(
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The Screen Gems/Columbia Pictures-associated shows have gone longer(Diamond Head, Celeb Charades, Fantasy, Perfect Match 1967, etc.). B&E's last appearances on GSN were on Feast of Favorites Thanksgiving 2002(two episodes each of Joker and Tic Tac), and Thanksgiving 2003(two episodes each of Celeb Bullseye and Joker)
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'121817\' date=\'Jun 19 2006, 02:57 PM\']
However, it did seem to me that the questions on the early network years of "TJW" were a little more challenging than what the syndication B&E shows ended up with.
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Keep in mind that when CBS TJW debuted, the original J!, 3 W's, and Split Second were all still on the air. Ergo, it may still have been fashionable in 1972 to have slightly more difficult questions. The hardest regular questions on the late 70s-1990 B&E shows came from the questions missed by 70-100% of the pollees on PtP. Outside of that, not everyone ran through the Auction and Seesaw categories on TTD(or similar questions on Hot Potato). How difficult were the questions on CBS TTD? I'm thinking at about the difficulty level of the Syndie TJW(which had largely multiple choice questions the first season)
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It's "G-a-m-e-s-h-o-w," not "G-a-z-p-a-c-h-o." Get it right next time. ;-)
Go back to Russia! :-D
Chuck Donegan (The Simpsons-Referencing "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' post=\'122113\' date=\'Jun 22 2006, 10:54 AM\']Keep in mind that when CBS TJW debuted, the original J!, 3 W's, and Split Second were all still on the air. Ergo, it may still have been fashionable in 1972 to have slightly more difficult questions.[/quote]
This is what I think. Since quiz shows were not in vogue when TJW came back in syndication, someone figured harder questions might be a turn-off.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'121753\' date=\'Jun 18 2006, 10:02 PM\']
Wow. Somebody REALLY loves Raymond.
And...Suzanne Pleshette? What are you promoting? Bob Newhart reruns from 1974?[/quote]
Well, actually, only 2 of those celebs are regulars on "Everybody Loves Raymond". As for Suzanne Pleshette, she's done TV as recently as the 2004 Season of"Will & Grace". Jerry Stiller did an episode of Pyramid back in the 70's (as shown on King of Queens in an episode where he watches one of his appearances). Hey, at least people will know 5 of the Stars, if not all 6. I'd never heard of Brande until GSM started airing, and I doubt LOTS of people know Paige.
You are aware that the idea here is to use game shows people have HEARD of, right? 'Cuz the geeks who would recognize Whew! are gonna watch regardless.
Actually, I believe the idea of the original UK version was to pay tribute to the Network, which would be best served by using people who star on the Network (which was not the case with ANY of Season 1's players). In addition, as Ricki so [sarcasm] splendidly [/sarcasm] reminded us at the beginning of each hour, they were there to (depending on the night) pay tribute to... [Ricki] GAME SHOWS! [/Ricki] That said, any game show should be acceptable.
How many people watching do you think had really heard of and/or remembered "Beat The Clock"? Seeing as the last time either was on was the 79-80 TV Season (well, unless you count the 2002 BTC, but I didn't even know there was one till I looked it up on IMDB.com), I'm guessing not many more than knew Whew! In addition, at least all but TTD and TJW used celebrities for at least part of their run.
The only one this season that used Celebs even somewhat regularly, was Match Game. Plus, anybody who likes the Celebs will watch because of that, and once you're hooked on a show (which people would be if it's strong enough to come back), you tend to at least start to watch most of the episodes. Of course, there's also the play-at-home "hook. Whew! being first might be risky, but then again it might just be the corny, "retro" schtick to which some people would cling.
Anyway, not to make a huge argument about it. Just my thoughts based on yours. Anyone else have any thoughts? I'd like to hear what others of you have to say.
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[quote name=\'PalCatIN\' post=\'122588\' date=\'Jun 26 2006, 06:21 PM\']
As for Suzanne Pleshette, she's done TV as recently as the 2004 Season of"Will & Grace".
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A guest shot...on a sitcom on another network that is no longer airing...two years ago.
You know what three-letter word comes next, right?
Actually, I believe the idea of the original UK version was to pay tribute to the Network
Oh, your naivety is adorable. "Making money? Naw, no need. I wanna pay tribute!"
In addition, as Ricki so [sarcasm] splendidly [/sarcasm] reminded us at the beginning of each hour, they were there to (depending on the night) pay tribute to... [Ricki] GAME SHOWS! [/Ricki] That said, any game show should be acceptable.
Something is very wrong with you.
How many people watching do you think had really heard of and/or remembered "Beat The Clock"?...I'm guessing not many more than knew Whew!
VERY wrong. To suggest that as many potential viewers remember a show that ran a hair over a year in relative obscurity compared to one that ran fifteen years in four different formats pretty much proves that your grasp on reality is tenuous at best.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'122589\' date=\'Jun 26 2006, 08:52 PM\']
You know what three-letter word comes next, right?
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Bow....wow. ;)
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ATTN: People thinking there will be a sequel...
I love how long this thing has gone on for. I mean people, we have here a bunch of dingbats going on about a sequel. I think I may have said it earlier, but for the feeble minded, the just plain dumb, and perhaps even the people still living in their parents' basements among us: THERE WILL BE NO SEQUEL!!! A 4.5-5.5 rating for something that took this much effort, and the amount of effort is greatly debatable in some aspects, doesn't justify a sequel. It's a one shot deal. Enjoy it and be thankful CBS let old school game shows see the light of day again on their schedule! Aside from the obvious exception at 11am ET Monday-Friday, it won't happen again any time soon.
And really, why the heck would you want a sequel? If you have so many problems with the host, announcer, music, celebrities, etc., then why in the heck would you want to go through it all again, when you know the company behind this has a track record for screwing things up?
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'122607\' date=\'Jun 26 2006, 11:54 PM\']
ATTN: People thinking there will be a sequel...
I love how long this thing has gone on for. I mean people, we have here a bunch of dingbats going on about a sequel. I think I may have said it earlier, but for the feeble minded, the just plain dumb, and perhaps even the people still living in their parents' basements among us: THERE WILL BE NO SEQUEL!!! A 4.5-5.5 rating for something that took this much effort, and the amount of effort is greatly debatable in some aspects, doesn't justify a sequel. It's a one shot deal. Enjoy it and be thankful CBS let old school game shows see the light of day again on their schedule! Aside from the obvious exception at 11am ET Monday-Friday, it won't happen again any time soon.
And really, why the heck would you want a sequel? If you have so many problems with the host, announcer, music, celebrities, etc., then why in the heck would you want to go through it all again, when you know the company behind this has a track record for screwing things up?
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Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something? Where did all this ranting come from? From what I've read on this board and the summaries threads, the Marathon has been generally well-received, except for some small nits. And from my observations, the nits aren't enough to turn folks away. Hell, I have my nits to pick with Jeopardy, but I still love the show.
As for the 4.5/5.5 rating, yeah it is low, but it is summer so it's expected. Did you even read other threads where it won it's timeslot?
Granted it prolly won't be back for a sequel, but I hardly think it's because of your rant that basically said nothing.
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"Beat the Clock" is Nick's "Double Dare" without the questions and the slime. The general mechanics of the show should be evident to anyone at a glance.
The nostalgia factor that the Ant and Dec show had wasn't as strong here because most of these shows are either still on in first or second run or had been revived recently. The TPIR show made me nostalgic for that morning.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'122609\' date=\'Jun 27 2006, 12:25 AM\']
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' post=\'122607\' date=\'Jun 26 2006, 11:54 PM\']
ATTN: People thinking there will be a sequel...
I love how long this thing has gone on for. I mean people, we have here a bunch of dingbats going on about a sequel. I think I may have said it earlier, but for the feeble minded, the just plain dumb, and perhaps even the people still living in their parents' basements among us: THERE WILL BE NO SEQUEL!!! A 4.5-5.5 rating for something that took this much effort, and the amount of effort is greatly debatable in some aspects, doesn't justify a sequel. It's a one shot deal. Enjoy it and be thankful CBS let old school game shows see the light of day again on their schedule! Aside from the obvious exception at 11am ET Monday-Friday, it won't happen again any time soon.
And really, why the heck would you want a sequel? If you have so many problems with the host, announcer, music, celebrities, etc., then why in the heck would you want to go through it all again, when you know the company behind this has a track record for screwing things up?
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Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something? Where did all this ranting come from? From what I've read on this board and the summaries threads, the Marathon has been generally well-received, except for some small nits. And from my observations, the nits aren't enough to turn folks away. Hell, I have my nits to pick with Jeopardy, but I still love the show.
As for the 4.5/5.5 rating, yeah it is low, but it is summer so it's expected. Did you even read other threads where it won it's timeslot?
Granted it prolly won't be back for a sequel, but I hardly think it's because of your rant that basically said nothing.
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Actually I think I was on the wrong side of a blowout at the game I called last night...comment still stands though. I just find it odd that some people on here aren't happy with what they have. It's a miracle of sorts that this marathon even happened, and now some imply this should be a yearly thing or something. That's all.
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I'm of the opinion that it is not far-fetched to suggest that a couple of the shows could be used as a summer replacement of four or five weeks next season, my preferences would be Card Sharks or Match Game using sets constructed for the specials. Changes I'd make-real people as contestants, half-hour shows (I might be open to having three shows for 40 minutes each to form a two hour weekly block), less filler (we obviously wouldn't need the history lesson every week) and a different host for each show. Maybe have Ricki do MG, Rich Fields for Card Sharks and....what the heck....Dave Price for nighttime TPIR :)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'122623\' date=\'Jun 27 2006, 08:14 AM\']
my preferences would be Card Sharks or Match Game using sets constructed for the specials.
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Card Sharks really stood out to me as the best show of the series thus far by a longshot, with Press Your Luck running second. But I wouldn't use the same sets, which for all of their hard work did still come off as replicas. (Which for the purposes of this series they're supposed to, I'm sure, but it doesn't fly with a standalone show.)
There's no way in nine blue hells I'd let Rikki host it, though, unless someone sat her down and said "Okay, that was how a caricature acts, now he's how to REALLY do it, do it this way or you're vapor"
Frighteningly, I wouldn't mind seeing how Rich Fields did as a host. Not an announcer, a host.
(Here's one out of the blue. Pat Finn, who really wasn't a bad host, he was just saddled with irritating formats. (And if they came up with an original paradigm instead of trying to convince us that travesty he hosted in 1990 was TJW, I think our memories of that show would be far more generous.) I think his style could possibly work on either show. I'd at least be willing to see him try.)
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There's no way in nine blue hells I'd let Rikki host it
Although Ricki's definitely improved, I still think the roles of Todd Newton and Ricki Lake should've been vice versa.
Better still: John O'Hurley as the prize truck fellow, Todd shining as emcee, and Ricki doing whatever it is one does during a sabbatical from showbiz.
Or..Todd remains as the Prize Truck guy and John O'Hurley gives it a whirl as emcee. Either way, Ricki would still be at home eating bonbons.
--Jamie
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The original UK "GSM" may've been a tribute to ITV's game shows and part of ITV paying tribute to itself and its 50th anniversary, but it also was based on the predication that nostalgia can get big ratings numbers, particularly on Saturday night, which is still a big deal over there. All of the big reality shows play on Saturday nights one way or the other and the new "Doctor Who" is on that same night. And IIRC, the combination of nostalgia and Ant and Dec did have ITV beating BBC1 on Saturday nights, hence the U.S. version.
The Beeb didn't do anything like "GSM," but I assume that when they had their 75th anniversary in 1997, they did as many on-air tributes to themselves as ITV did last year, if not more. Early BBC America viewers may remember the 75th anniversary salute promos with Tom Jones, Sting and that well-known Brit Whoopi Goldberg.
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If CBS was to look at this and find something to bring back next summer, I think it's PYL and Match Game, as half-hours that can run back to back or not.
The panel on Match Game was terrific. The questions were good and didn't need penis references to work. All they need is a host who is able to add to the humor. (A full-size set and civilian contestants would be good, too.)
Of the other games, PYL is the one that seems big enough to run in prime time as a summertime diversion. (Card Sharks doesn't seem big enough to me.) Run infrequently enough, it's a great novelty and very exciting. The most exciting game of their lives, for pete's sake. Ricki wasn't too bad on this one, or they could even let Jeff Probst host it.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'122635\' date=\'Jun 27 2006, 01:03 PM\']
Run infrequently enough, it's a great novelty and very exciting.
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And here's your fallacy; you think that CBS will show restraint and not run it into the ground if it gets decent numbers. Remember, this is the network with three different CSI shows. ;)
"The Whammy goes Hawaiian! Press Your Luck: Honolulu! CBS Tuesday!"
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Sad thing is I could hear Roger Rose saying just that, Chris.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'122636\' date=\'Jun 27 2006, 03:07 PM\']
And here's your fallacy; you think that CBS will show restraint and not run it into the ground if it gets decent numbers. Remember, this is the network with three different CSI shows. ;)
"The Whammy goes Hawaiian! Press Your Luck: Honolulu! CBS Tuesday!"
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That's true, but at least they'd be running it. How about Press Your Luck: Criminal Intent?
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'122641\' date=\'Jun 27 2006, 05:22 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'122636\' date=\'Jun 27 2006, 03:07 PM\']
And here's your fallacy; you think that CBS will show restraint and not run it into the ground if it gets decent numbers. Remember, this is the network with three different CSI shows. ;)
"The Whammy goes Hawaiian! Press Your Luck: Honolulu! CBS Tuesday!"
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That's true, but at least they'd be running it. How about Press Your Luck: Criminal Intent?
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Wrong network -- Law & Order: Criminal Intent is on NBC. Otherwise you just know Dick Wolf would be pushing for a Special Whammies Unit spinoff. :-)
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[quote name=\'Playpal\' post=\'120713\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 12:35 PM\']
Rich was actually the first choice of producers to travel and deliver the prizes. His TPIR taping schedule made that impossible, as well as being the reason he was not "in studio" for some of the tapings.[/quote]
You seem to have forgotten to post the fact that Rich wasn't the producers' first choice to announce GSM episodes 2-7 and that another announcer was originally scheduled to do those shows (and, in fact, actually did warm-up the crowd and announce the LMAD episode). That would be another reason Rich wasn't "in studio." He wasn't supposed to really be there as the announcer at all.
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[quote name=\'Win a Pile\' post=\'123051\' date=\'Jul 1 2006, 08:33 PM\']
You seem to have forgotten to post the fact that Rich wasn't the producers' first choice to announce GSM episodes 2-7 and that another announcer was originally scheduled to do those shows (and, in fact, actually did warm-up the crowd and announce the LMAD episode). That would be another reason Rich wasn't "in studio." He wasn't supposed to really be there as the announcer at all.
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Source, please?
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'123053\' date=\'Jul 1 2006, 07:38 PM\']
[quote name=\'Win a Pile\' post=\'123051\' date=\'Jul 1 2006, 08:33 PM\']
You seem to have forgotten to post the fact that Rich wasn't the producers' first choice to announce GSM episodes 2-7 and that another announcer was originally scheduled to do those shows (and, in fact, actually did warm-up the crowd and announce the LMAD episode). That would be another reason Rich wasn't "in studio." He wasn't supposed to really be there as the announcer at all.
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Source, please?
[/quote]
Win A Pile of Crap?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'120728\' date=\'Jun 8 2006, 04:10 PM\']
from what I've seen of it, the US version of Call My Bluff could've been a nice little daytime staple if the bluffs weren't so freakin horrible. At least the UK seemed to get it right. It's also part of the Goodson-Todman library, so rights issues wouldn't be a problem.
--Jamie
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Until recently, I had no idea that Call My Bluff was doing so well in the UK that it stuck around awhile (is it still on there?). I'd love to see it and be able to compare it with the US version since I understand at least one broadcast-quality NBC print survives.
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Until recently, I had no idea that Call My Bluff was doing so well in the UK that it stuck around awhile (is it still on there?). I'd love to see it and be able to compare it with the US version since I understand at least one broadcast-quality NBC print survives
To my knowledge, 'Bluff' ended in 2005 in the UK.
As for the existing US episodes, one with Abe Burrows & Peggy Cass is around in black and white. UCLA has a January test episode with Betty White & Gene Rayburn, also in black and white. Sadly, no color episodes exist.
--Jamie
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I know I'm a late entry in this fantasyland thread, but I'm surprised I haven't seen one particular Fremantle format mentioned I think would be fun in a "future marathon": Blockbusters. Considering some celeb IQs, some of the answers could be pretty good!
P.S. Hey, Jake! How's it goin..?