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Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on May 08, 2006, 05:47:11 PM

I mean, he DID have the most wins out of anybody from his season. The reason can't be because he competed in the UToC, because Kermin did too.

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: TLEberle on May 08, 2006, 06:05:52 PM

Sure it can. "By participating in and receiving a fifth-round bye in the UToC, you waive any claim to participate in the Plain Vanilla Tournament of Champions. For your consideration, you will win a minimum of $250,000."

Where do I sign?

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: uncamark on May 09, 2006, 03:00:32 PM

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'118018\' date=\'May 8 2006, 05:05 PM\']
Sure it can. "By participating in and receiving a fifth-round bye in the UToC, you waive any claim to participate in the Plain Vanilla Tournament of Champions. For your consideration, you will win a minimum of $250,000."

Where do I sign?
[/quote]

An admirable display of restraint on Friedman's part, considering that there were probably some at Sony and KW wanting him to bring back Jennings--he realizes that the show was around for a long time before KenJen and will be around a long time after.

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: Matt Ottinger on May 09, 2006, 03:40:53 PM

[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'118092\' date=\'May 9 2006, 03:00 PM\']An admirable display of restraint on Friedman's part, considering that there were probably some at Sony and KW wanting him to bring back Jennings--he realizes that the show was around for a long time before KenJen and will be around a long time after.[/quote]
I almost hate to say this, but there is the matter of objective fairness to Ken.  If Kermin Fleming (the 2004 College champ) is in the current ToC field, then the powers-that-be decided that he was entitled to participate in the regular Tournament of Champions for which he qualified, even though he had also participated in their Ultimate tournament.  This is the regular Tournament of Champions for which Ken has qualified.  Every other multi-day champion prior to Ken got to participate in a regular ToC as well as the Ultimate Tournament.  Ken will not have that opportunity.

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: clemon79 on May 09, 2006, 03:56:05 PM

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'118096\' date=\'May 9 2006, 12:40 PM\']
I almost hate to say this, but there is the matter of objective fairness to Ken...Every other multi-day champion prior to Ken got to participate in a regular ToC as well as the Ultimate Tournament.  Ken will not have that opportunity.
[/quote]
I'd agree if every other multi-day champion also got a bye into the final round and a guaranteed $250,000 payday even if he just stood there and performed the theme from "Jaws" with the old hand-in-the-armpit trick.

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: zachhoran on May 09, 2006, 07:01:00 PM

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'118096\' date=\'May 9 2006, 03:40 PM\']

I almost hate to say this, but there is the matter of objective fairness to Ken.  If Kermin Fleming (the 2004 College champ) is in the current ToC field, then the powers-that-be decided that he was entitled to participate in the regular Tournament of Champions for which he qualified, even though he had also participated in their Ultimate tournament.  

[/quote]

Frank Spangenberg and Bob Blake did Super Jeopardy! before their regular season TofC occurred.

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: TLEberle on May 09, 2006, 10:06:56 PM

[quote name=\'zachhoran\' post=\'118104\' date=\'May 9 2006, 04:01 PM\']Frank Spangenberg and Bob Blake did Super Jeopardy! before their regular season TofC occurred.
[/quote]Who was the alternate for "Super Jeopardy"?


[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'118120\' date=\'May 9 2006, 07:05 PM\']
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' post=\'118104\' date=\'May 9 2006, 04:01 PM\']Frank Spangenberg and Bob Blake did Super Jeopardy! before their regular season TofC occurred.
[/quote]Who was the alternate for "Super Jeopardy"?
[/quote]

You can find the answer to that, and other information at soaringsites.com.

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: inturnaround on May 11, 2006, 09:36:45 AM

Can a contestant decline their berth in the ToC? I suspect they can, though I'm not saying that's what happened here.

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: zachhoran on May 11, 2006, 09:45:31 AM

[quote name=\'inturnaround\' post=\'118194\' date=\'May 11 2006, 09:36 AM\']
Can a contestant decline their berth in the ToC? I suspect they can, though I'm not saying that's what happened here.
[/quote]

One contestant did decline their berth on Super Jeopardy! in Summer 1990, as per Alex at the top of one episode, becasue they were running for political office at the time. There are at least two players who would have qualified for the UTofC, i.e. Amanda Goad and Larry McKnight, who would have been invited based on being a five-time winner with $48K+ or having won a tournament, that declined for whatever reason. Bill Dickenson and one other player who escapes me at the moment made the tournament because of them declining.

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: clemon79 on May 11, 2006, 10:25:27 AM

[quote name=\'inturnaround\' post=\'118194\' date=\'May 11 2006, 06:36 AM\']
Can a contestant decline their berth in the ToC? I suspect they can, though I'm not saying that's what happened here.
[/quote]
You're kidding, right?

"You VILL play in the TOC! Get back to Culver City! SCHNELL!"

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: TLEberle on May 11, 2006, 09:26:08 PM

[quote name=\'zachhoran\' post=\'118197\' date=\'May 11 2006, 06:45 AM\']One contestant did decline their berth on Super Jeopardy! in Summer 1990, as per Alex at the top of one episode, becasue they were running for political office at the time. [/quote]

INCORRECT!

As per Harry Friedman as per his book "Inside Jeopardy!" one contestant declined because someone in his family was getting married. As per me, you're losing your touch. As per me, you ought to get your facts straight. As per me, there are a handful of people on this board that still care about your tripe. As per me, do it for them!

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: zachhoran on May 11, 2006, 09:41:31 PM

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'118254\' date=\'May 11 2006, 09:26 PM\']

INCORRECT!

As per Harry Friedman as per his book "Inside Jeopardy!" one contestant declined because someone in his family was getting married.

[/quote]

Friedman is not the writer's last name, it's Eisenberg.

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: TLEberle on May 11, 2006, 09:48:16 PM

Well done, Zach. I forgot to underline "Friedman."

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: clemon79 on May 11, 2006, 10:27:28 PM

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'118260\' date=\'May 11 2006, 06:48 PM\']
Well done, Zach. I forgot to underline "Friedman."
[/quote]
Winnar!

Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: Kevin Prather on May 12, 2006, 01:38:12 AM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'118204\' date=\'May 11 2006, 07:25 AM\']
"You VILL play in the TOC! Get back to Culver City! SCHNELL!"
[/quote]

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Title: Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
Post by: GS Warehouse on May 12, 2006, 01:14:52 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'118204\' date=\'May 11 2006, 10:25 AM\']"You VILL play in the TOC! Get back to Culver City! SCHNELL!"[/quote]
You forgot to add "Dance, monkey!  Dance"!