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Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: LA the DJ on April 06, 2006, 09:22:19 PM
As I was watching Price today, I noticed something as one of the contestants was celebrating and I got a good look at the side of one of the cameras, and I noticed an "HD" logo on the side of it. Does this mean that Price will be making the upgrade soon, or is that just there as an option to those taping in 33?
Anyone in the know?
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: Chief-O on April 06, 2006, 10:47:31 PM
If anything, CBS is just future-proofing all of its studios. They would probably want HD cameras in the studio in the event that someone else wants to do an HD show in there. I doubt Price will ever go widescreen, let alone HD.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: clemon79 on April 06, 2006, 10:50:21 PM
[quote name=\'Chief-O\' post=\'115536\' date=\'Apr 6 2006, 07:47 PM\']
If anything, CBS is just future-proofing all of its studios. They would probably want HD cameras in the studio in the event that someone else wants to do an HD show in there. I doubt Price will ever go widescreen, let alone HD.
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Um, if the show is still around in three years, they don't have much of a choice. :)
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: dzinkin on April 06, 2006, 11:00:14 PM
The only game shows that have confirmed plans to air in HD are Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy!.  Price will undoubtedly make the move eventually but to my knowledge there's been no formal announcement.

(For what it's worth, I can't find Barker on any of the lists of "Best Looking/Worst Looking Stars in HD" on tvpredictions.com. ;-)

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'115538\' date=\'Apr 6 2006, 10:50 PM\']
Um, if the show is still around in three years, they don't have much of a choice. :)
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I thought the FCC rules mandated only a switch to digital, not necessarily HD.   Have I missed something along the way?
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: clemon79 on April 06, 2006, 11:03:29 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'115540\' date=\'Apr 6 2006, 08:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'115538\' date=\'Apr 6 2006, 10:50 PM\']
Um, if the show is still around in three years, they don't have much of a choice. :)
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I thought the FCC rules mandated only a switch to digital, not necessarily HD.   Have I missed something along the way?
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I don't know, but I have to think if terrestrial television signals are gonna die in 2009, and they have to provide a digital hi-def signal, there is little to no point to continuing to produce normal-res programming.

Frankly, this "doubt" smacks of more oh-noes-don't-change-anything-on-my-favorite-show.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: Particleman on April 06, 2006, 11:04:29 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'115540\' date=\'Apr 6 2006, 11:00 PM\']
I thought the FCC rules mandated only a switch to digital, not necessarily HD.   Have I missed something along the way?
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No, you are correct.  Just because a broadcast doesn't mean it's an HD broadcast.  I read an article on this awhile ago and can't directly quote it right now.

Of the slew of digital channels available from my cable service, only a handfull are in HD.

Personally, I'd like to see it happen but it would only show just how old and banged up a lot of their props are.  :)
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: mystery7 on April 06, 2006, 11:33:49 PM
[quote name=\'Particleman\' post=\'115542\' date=\'Apr 6 2006, 11:04 PM\']
Personally, I'd like to see it happen but it would only show just how old and banged up a lot of their props are.  :)
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HD would also show how old and banged up ol' Barker is. And I'm not sure I'd like to see that.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: FeudDude on April 06, 2006, 11:55:22 PM
[quote name=\'mystery7\' post=\'115543\' date=\'Apr 6 2006, 11:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'Particleman\' post=\'115542\' date=\'Apr 6 2006, 11:04 PM\']
Personally, I'd like to see it happen but it would only show just how old and banged up a lot of their props are.  :)
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HD would also show how old and banged up ol' Barker is. And I'm not sure I'd like to see that.
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Heh, I was thinking more along the lines of how old and banged up the set is...but good point there. :)
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: LA the DJ on April 07, 2006, 12:28:01 AM
I don't think it will necessarily reveal how bad things are. After all, many shows have made the switch to HD without massive changes. Granted, some of the props would need touchups, However, it's not like "Oh, no, HD is here, no more old people on TV!". TV gets better, the propmakers will get better, the makeup artists will get better.

They could also go to something like 720p, which is not the highest definition, but a definite upgrade.

Then again, this could be something that happens after Bob is gone.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: Timsterino on April 07, 2006, 12:43:06 AM
[quote name=\'Chief-O\' post=\'115536\' date=\'Apr 6 2006, 10:47 PM\']
If anything, CBS is just future-proofing all of its studios. They would probably want HD cameras in the studio in the event that someone else wants to do an HD show in there. I doubt Price will ever go widescreen, let alone HD.
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I don't doubt it at all. It is going to happen. In several years they will not have a choice in the matter.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: remlap on April 07, 2006, 09:21:04 AM
[quote name=\'Particleman\' post=\'115542\' date=\'Apr 7 2006, 04:04 AM\']

Of the slew of digital channels available from my cable service, only a handfull are in HD.
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Thats the problem though isnt it in the US over the air network HD, old NTSC tv wont be able to manage ATSC thats in HD, least with digital cable or satellite theres the option of switching on the non high def version of the show if you got an older tv set.

I love HD, good thing the UK has it sorted and has over the air thats digital and will have seperate HD stations when the analogue band switches off.

HD still in the testing phases in the UK, cabled rolled it out and satellite is starting mid May, and BBC trailing tests over the air in London.

But for now im happy with HD promo videos of Zebra and other animals from Africa, and the odd classic music concert.

[quote name=\'nWo_Whammy\' post=\'115554\' date=\'Apr 7 2006, 05:28 AM\']
They could also go to something like 720p, which is not the highest definition, but a definite upgrade.[/quote]

CBS airs all its HD content in 1080i I think, but 720p is in my oppinon a little nicer because of that little p aka progressive scanning.

Now if anything id rather see PiR shot in widescreen (which doesnt mean HD, but sadly most assocaite it with HD there) and have more lighting in the studio.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: Jay Temple on April 10, 2006, 01:31:46 AM
Just a side remark on the down-side of high-res images: I read a couple years ago that porn helped the VCR and cable TV catch on big, but that it wouldn't do the same for DVD's and HDTV, because those formats would reveal the imperfections of the models.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: clemon79 on April 10, 2006, 01:36:24 AM
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'115781\' date=\'Apr 9 2006, 10:31 PM\']
Just a side remark on the down-side of high-res images: I read a couple years ago that porn helped the VCR and cable TV catch on big, but that it wouldn't do the same for DVD's and HDTV, because those formats would reveal the imperfections of the models.
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The guys who watch pr0n aren't overly worried about imperfections of the models, believe me. :)
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: DjohnsonCB on April 10, 2006, 02:03:40 AM
A bit of good news/bad news I learned about watching CBS and other networks in HD recently:  The good news is that CBS allows full end credit runs with their original show music and credit display with no promos or credit crunches...but for some reason, it's only on their sitcoms, not anything else like "Ghost Whisperer".

The bad news is there's a lot of digitized breakup and broken up audio during a hard rain or worse, at least around here, so I have to switch over to the same show in blotchy analog on my huge set in order to follow what's being said.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: remlap on April 10, 2006, 08:26:09 AM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'115784\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 07:03 AM\']
A bit of good news/bad news I learned about watching CBS and other networks in HD recently:  The good news is that CBS allows full end credit runs with their original show music and credit display with no promos or credit crunches...but for some reason, it's only on their sitcoms, not anything else like "Ghost Whisperer".

The bad news is there's a lot of digitized breakup and broken up audio during a hard rain or worse, at least around here, so I have to switch over to the same show in blotchy analog on my huge set in order to follow what's being said.
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You recieving your CBS station from over the air?

If you have to switch to analogue its most likely its their digial UHF transmitter, which everyone knows isnt as powerful as VHF.

Oh Weird Al.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: DjohnsonCB on April 10, 2006, 09:49:55 AM
[quote name=\'remlap\' post=\'115792\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 07:26 AM\']
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'115784\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 07:03 AM\']
A bit of good news/bad news I learned about watching CBS and other networks in HD recently:  The good news is that CBS allows full end credit runs with their original show music and credit display with no promos or credit crunches...but for some reason, it's only on their sitcoms, not anything else like "Ghost Whisperer".

The bad news is there's a lot of digitized breakup and broken up audio during a hard rain or worse, at least around here, so I have to switch over to the same show in blotchy analog on my huge set in order to follow what's being said.
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You recieving your CBS station from over the air?

If you have to switch to analogue its most likely its their digial UHF transmitter, which everyone knows isnt as powerful as VHF.

Oh Weird Al.
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I get them all from digital cable; the CBS station had a recent change of ownership, so they were finally able to settle their differences with Cox Cable over retrans fees and allowed their HD signal back on cable earlier this year.

I don't think I've seen any serious breakup on the CBS station, probably because they invested more bucks in what they say is a better HD system.  Over the air, it's Ch. 45 (or 3-1).  The real breakup happens on the NBC and Fox stations.  To keep the signals coming in during good weather, I had to buy a Radio Shack signal booster and feed my cable through it, but it does a good job.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: BrandonFG on April 10, 2006, 10:01:49 AM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'115784\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 02:03 AM\']
A bit of good news/bad news I learned about watching CBS and other networks in HD recently:  The good news is that CBS allows full end credit runs with their original show music and credit display with no promos or credit crunches...but for some reason, it's only on their sitcoms, not anything else like "Ghost Whisperer".
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That's interesting, but for me, it seems moot. I say that because most shows nowadays use a default black background, prolly because of how the networks set up credits to be split-screened. There are some exceptions ("Cold Case" reruns on TNT come to mind), but it's just something I noticed.

Would still love to have that "feature" with the CBS sitcoms at least.
Title: TPiR HD?
Post by: uncamark on April 10, 2006, 12:13:11 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'115800\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 09:01 AM\']
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'115784\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 02:03 AM\']
A bit of good news/bad news I learned about watching CBS and other networks in HD recently:  The good news is that CBS allows full end credit runs with their original show music and credit display with no promos or credit crunches...but for some reason, it's only on their sitcoms, not anything else like "Ghost Whisperer".
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That's interesting, but for me, it seems moot. I say that because most shows nowadays use a default black background, prolly because of how the networks set up credits to be split-screened. There are some exceptions ("Cold Case" reruns on TNT come to mind), but it's just something I noticed.

Would still love to have that "feature" with the CBS sitcoms at least.
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On the VOD offerings of CBS programs that Comcast is running for 99 cents a pop, the credits are ungeneric and actual sound--"Survivor"'s credits are split screen with the tossed player's goodbye on the left-hand side and there's the flame sound over the Mark Burnett logo (the "Survivor Entertainment" and "Castaway Productions" logos are accompanied by the horn sound from the theme).  "TAR" has the theme playing over the credits, but silence on the logos (not even a thunderclap for the Bruckheimer logo).

What makes them less of a deal for those of us with DVRs (or VCRs) is that the commercial breaks are full-length.  Even if there are fewer paid spots, all of the rest, including the local station breaks, are filled by the same five PSAs over and over and mostly-generic promos, unlike most cable channel VODs, which do shorten or eliminate the breaks (Yay, Oxygen!).  There's also no Survivor of the Week or "TAR" Team of the Week features on the VOD versions, although the Febreeze Family Moment is on "Survivor."  The fact that you have to touch the fast-forward every ten minutes or so make them not worth the 99 cents.