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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: JTFriends1 on August 30, 2003, 01:56:11 AM
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Head to www.wheeloffortune.com for a sneak preview of the new \"state-of-the-art\" set to debut next Monday on Wheel!
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[quote name=\'JTFriends1\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 12:56 AM\'] Head to www.wheeloffortune.com for a sneak preview of the new "state-of-the-art" set to debut next Monday on Wheel! [/quote]
Not next Monday, the Monday after next.
And the set looks the same, but a tad bit more dazzling.
Brandon Brooks
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Glamorous. Fabulous and exciting, even.
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 07:21 AM\'] [quote name=\'JTFriends1\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 12:56 AM\'] Head to www.wheeloffortune.com for a sneak preview of the new \"state-of-the-art\" set to debut next Monday on Wheel! [/quote]
Not next Monday, the Monday after next.
And the set looks the same, but a tad bit more dazzling.
Brandon Brooks [/quote]
Yeah.. no more Light bulbs. Now we get fancy Neon instead. Not a huge change in still photos, but it sounds like the set will really come to life on Video. Now the contestant backdrop Wall will air Live Video from around the country. Thats kind of a cool element. I'm putting in my request to see if they'll broadcast me eating my dinner. :-)
John
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 10:12 AM\'] I'm putting in my request to see if they'll broadcast me eating my dinner. :-) [/quote]
But tie it into the show!
Such as during a Food & Drink category \"Spaghetti and Meatballs\" while you're eating... spaghetti and meatballs.
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[quote name=\'JTFriends1\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 12:56 AM\'] Head to www.wheeloffortune.com for a sneak preview of the new "state-of-the-art" set to debut next Monday on Wheel! [/quote]
Ummm, I may be the dissenting vote on this, but I really don't see what makes this set any better than sets previous.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 12:28 PM\']Ummm, I may be the dissenting vote on this, but I really don't see what makes this set any better than sets previous.[/quote]
I didn't look at the website picture, but it sure kicks ass in person. I posted here a month or two ago about the new set. Its most obvious attribute is its awesome lighting - it was phenomenal flying through a zillion different colors during testing.
Beyond that, you know how everybody posts how set pieces like TPIR's are unimpressive without the proper lighting? Well, under the glare of flouescents with none of its effects, this thing looked hot. More than not being scuffed from years of abuse, none of it has that painted wood look. It's all done in non-reflective metallics and cool plastic. But then again, while hot up close, it may \"read\" as crap on TV (although I doubt it ;-)
On a related note, Charlie O e-mailed me to happily announce that he signed for another four years. The Wheel - long may it spin!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Well, It looks very.....neon-y.
Maybe it's just me, but I prefer (comparing to the small picture on the site) last seasons design over this up-coming seasons design. Probably just me though.
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Having just seen the photo of the new set myself, I have to say, the phrase \"It looks exactly the same, except different\" been more accurate. Frankly I'll be surprised if they even acknowledge it next Monday.
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[quote name=\'Dan Sadro\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 12:11 PM\'] [quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 10:12 AM\'] I'm putting in my request to see if they'll broadcast me eating my dinner. :-) [/quote]
But tie it into the show!
Such as during a Food & Drink category "Spaghetti and Meatballs" while you're eating... spaghetti and meatballs. [/quote]
Dan..... you are smarter than I give you credit for. :-)
John
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 06:37 PM\'] Having just seen the photo of the new set myself, I have to say, the phrase "It looks exactly the same, except different" been more accurate. Frankly I'll be surprised if they even acknowledge it next Monday. [/quote]
They won't acknowledge it Monday, because it is the Monday after next.
And believe, they spent a lot of money on it... they'll acknowledge it.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'Dan Sadro\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 12:11 PM\'] But tie it into the show!
Such as during a Food & Drink category "Spaghetti and Meatballs" while you're eating... spaghetti and meatballs. [/quote]
Has \"VASECTOMY\" already been used as a bonus puzzle?
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' date=\'Aug 31 2003, 06:57 PM\'] [quote name=\'Dan Sadro\' date=\'Aug 30 2003, 12:11 PM\'] But tie it into the show!
Such as during a Food & Drink category "Spaghetti and Meatballs" while you're eating... spaghetti and meatballs. [/quote]
Has "VASECTOMY" already been used as a bonus puzzle? [/quote]
LOL..... Good One!
John
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Looks more like a tweaking to me, but I'll have to see it on the TV screen before I'll pass final judgment on it. Still, I like what I've seen of it thus far!
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I have to admit, the tech-y talk about it on the website was pretty neat.
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...as long as it doesn't have the Sony logo all over it, it seems pretty cool.
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Yeah, it looks perfectly snazzy. Is the game still gonna suck?
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How many additional sponsorships will they have to sell to pay for the new set?
Soon they'll have Vanna wearing a sandwich board, saying \"eat at Quizno's\" or something.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 11:11 AM\'] How many additional sponsorships will they have to sell to pay for the new set?
Soon they'll have Vanna wearing a sandwich board, saying "eat at Quizno's" or something. [/quote]
No more than now. Do you know that Wheel is the #1 show in syndication and has been forever?
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 09:17 AM\'] [quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 11:11 AM\'] How many additional sponsorships will they have to sell to pay for the new set?
Soon they'll have Vanna wearing a sandwich board, saying "eat at Quizno's" or something. [/quote]
No more than now. Do you know that Wheel is the #1 show in syndication and has been forever?
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Sure. Then why did they need the Jackpot Round to be \"brought to you by Zaitarains?\" I like jambalaya as much as anyone, but it does seem a little silly.
The answer, of course: because they can. Most folks here know that. I think what Neumms is asking is, what's the limit? How far will WOF take it?
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I clicked all kind of links on their site and I don't see the new set.
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[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 10:54 AM\'] I clicked all kind of links on their site and I don't see the new set. [/quote]
Yep. Looks like they changed the site. Next time you should be a little quicker.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 12:04 PM\'] [quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 09:17 AM\'] [quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 11:11 AM\'] How many additional sponsorships will they have to sell to pay for the new set?
Soon they'll have Vanna wearing a sandwich board, saying \"eat at Quizno's\" or something. [/quote]
No more than now. Do you know that Wheel is the #1 show in syndication and has been forever?
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Sure. Then why did they need the Jackpot Round to be \"brought to you by Zaitarains?\" I like jambalaya as much as anyone, but it does seem a little silly.
The answer, of course: because they can. Most folks here know that. I think what Neumms is asking is, what's the limit? How far will WOF take it? [/quote]
No sillier than college bowl games having their own sponsors (i.e. the Tostito's Fiesta Bowl, Toyota Gator Bowl, etc.). :-P Only in this case, I see it as being similar to the 50s shows, where the company name was plastered on the set or the panel desk. At least with Wheel, it's just for the round.
ObGameShow: One of those bowl games had a game show-esque mini-game at halftime. Perfesser even mentioned it on his site.
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 11:17 AM\']
No more than now. Do you know that Wheel is the #1 show in syndication and has been forever?
Brandon Brooks [/quote]
Uh, yup. I did know that. It's as Chris said, I like jambalaya, too, but how much money do they need to suck out of the show?
One might hope viewers would turn away and show Sony and King World they've killed the golden goose. But then the analysts would just assume their audience passed away, not that they were fed up with Harrah's and Breath Savers plugs.
Not that other shows aren't full of plugs and commercials, too, but on Wheel, they really seem to be squeezing out the game play. And again, it's not as if King World is hanging by a thread.
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I think I see your point, except to the part that you seem to say King World has made enough money on Wheel and doesn't need to make any more. They're a business, why shouldn't they try to make as much as they can?
Yes, the clutter of ads is annoying. So's the squished credits and dropped fee plugs on GSN. I'm personally annoyed by the ever-larger (not to mention animated) promos running DURING THE SHOWS on Spike TV. But if I'm in the mood for an episode of ST: TNG, I'm willing to put up with the annoyance. So, apparently, are Wheel fans.
I've never heard of a situation where too much sponsorship caused a project to fail. You hear purists complaining about it all the time (title sponsorship of stadiums and bowl games being a prime example) but there doesn't appear to be any evidence that it really turns off a significant number of people to the point that they reject the project.
There might be a point at which it becomes too much. (\"I'd like to buy a 'Meineke Muffler E', Pat, I'm not going to pay a lot for that vowel!\") But Wheel doesn't appear to be close to that yet.
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Hey, Matt, SPIKE TV has to be the worst of the screen \"trash\" I've ever seen! The Joe Schmo bug in bottom left and the spraying Spike TV on the bottom right every friggin' 5 seconds is enough to make you NOT watch whatever they are promoting
obgameshow: WOF shouldn't tease us with quick glimpses of a new set, then remove it.
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 11:17 AM\'] [quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 11:11 AM\'] How many additional sponsorships will they have to sell to pay for the new set?
Soon they'll have Vanna wearing a sandwich board, saying "eat at Quizno's" or something. [/quote]
No more than now. Do you know that Wheel is the #1 show in syndication and has been forever?
Brandon Brooks [/quote]
The gift tag....etc.
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http://www.wheeloffortune.com/gena.pjw?cont=new_set (http://\"http://www.wheeloffortune.com/gena.pjw?cont=new_set\")
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[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 05:09 PM\'] obgameshow: WOF shouldn't tease us with quick glimpses of a new set, then remove it. [/quote]
We have no idea how long that item was on the site before it was posted here. You had plenty of time. Quit yer whining.
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Hey, Matt, SPIKE TV has to be the worst of the screen \"trash\" I've ever seen! The Joe Schmo bug in bottom left and the spraying Spike TV on the bottom right every friggin' 5 seconds is enough to make you NOT watch whatever they are promoting
While I appreciate the agreement about Spike TV's enormous promo \"bugs\", my whole *point* is that there's no logic that goes, \"Man, that looks like a really, really interesting show that I would enjoy watching. But because they ran the promos too many times for my taste, I think I won't tune in. That'll show 'em.\"
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While I appreciate the agreement about Spike TV's enormous promo \"bugs\", my whole *point* is that there's no logic that goes, \"Man, that looks like a really, really interesting show that I would enjoy watching. But because they ran the promos too many times for my taste, I think I won't tune in. That'll show 'em.\"
There is a logic like that, it's just that no one follows through.
If I had decided to throw a hissy fit after ABC cancelled WWTBAM, I could have said, \"I'm not gonna watch any ABC shows for the next year!\" and put it on the page. But (1) it's tough to follow through (\"Man, Jennifer Garner looks hot -- well, just five minutes of Alias and nobody'll know!\"), and (2) in this age of media conglomerates, it's hard to practice what you preach (\"I'm not watching ABC, but I have watched ABC Family, The Disney Channel, ESPN, ESPN 2, ESPN News, ESPN Classic Sports, I've gone to four Disney movies, I bought three Disney DVDs, and I gave money to Jerry's kids because John Ritter and his hot daughters on his show asked me to...\").
One person won't make a difference. It has to be a big group (tens of thousands), it has to be organized, it has to have media saturation, and it has to stick.
For bugs and obnoxious promos -- which have become so prevalent in the last decade that a half-generation of TV viewers don't remember when they didn't exist -- it's just not going to happen.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 10:19 AM\'] ("Man, Jennifer Garner looks hot -- well, just five minutes of Alias and nobody'll know!"),
("I'm not watching ABC, but I have watched ABC Family, The Disney Channel, ESPN, ESPN 2, ESPN News, ESPN Classic Sports, I've gone to four Disney movies, I bought three Disney DVDs, and I gave money to Jerry's kids because John Ritter and his hot daughters on his show asked me to..."). [/quote]
Curt, you gotta not let yourself be swayed so easily by hot women!
Brandon Brooks
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You're right about the tolerance level for bugs, promos, split screens, etc. I find that people my age (early 40's) are more bothered by them. To younger folks, they are no big deal and they ponder why it would upset anyone. I guess because I remember TV without them that I wish they would return to the bug-free screen. Some kid running a network in a couple of years will probably get a hefty raise for pioneering the \"clutter free screen\" that just happens to get more people to watch the net.
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Some kid running a network in a couple of years will probably get a hefty raise for pioneering the \"clutter free screen\" that just happens to get more people to watch the net.
Until some genius executive above him starts running bugs that say \"You're watching a clutter free screen!!!\"
Joke with basis in fact. A local bedding salesman used to brag in his commercials that he'd deliver your purchase to your home in an unmarked truck so your neighbors wouldn't know you bought from a discounter. I once saw one of those deliveries, and the truck was emblazoned with giant letters saying \"Big John's Famous Unmarked Truck\"!
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 10:46 AM\'] You're right about the tolerance level for bugs, promos, split screens, etc. I find that people my age (early 40's) are more bothered by them. To younger folks, they are no big deal and they ponder why it would upset anyone. I guess because I remember TV without them that I wish they would return to the bug-free screen. Some kid running a network in a couple of years will probably get a hefty raise for pioneering the "clutter free screen" that just happens to get more people to watch the net. [/quote]
Naw...I'm 20 and it bugs (bad pun intended) the hell out of me. It's the fact that it's a distraction, and oftentimes, it gets in the way of something else on the screen. MTV and VH-1 come to mind, whenever they do one of their documentaries, and their ad for the VMAs or \"I Love the 70s\" blocks out someone's name superimposed on screen.
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(dragging this back up for the sake of argument)
Randy's right- the pictures don't give it justice...the set is really awesome!