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Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Bob Zager on March 25, 2006, 10:37:28 AM
Here's a link to new information on the game show DVDs from Endless Games:

http://www.endlessgames.com/new1.html (http://\"http://www.endlessgames.com/new1.html\")

In other related information, amazon.com lists a July 1st release date, for the DOND electronic games, and DVD version.  It's probably a mistake on the quoted prices, since the handheld is supposed to be the cheaper of the two from itoys.

Also, I received an email from a Jakks Pacific representative, stating that the Jeopardy! Plug and Play game is now available (at Walmart, Target,  & Radio Shack).  I haven't seen them, but wondered if anybody else has.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on March 25, 2006, 11:47:14 AM
Just one question:  Who are Bettie White and Aston Kutcher? :-)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: TalkingHeadsFan on March 25, 2006, 12:29:24 PM
I think the Jakks representative is on something...Amazon.com doesnt even list Jeopardy game as being available, there are no listings for it on eBay, and the Jakks official site itself doesn't list the Jeopardy game as even released yet...

Doug
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on March 25, 2006, 02:13:25 PM
[quote name=\'TalkingHeadsFan\' date=\'Mar 25 2006, 09:29 AM\']I think the Jakks representative is on something...Amazon.com doesnt even list Jeopardy game as being available, there are no listings for it on eBay, and the Jakks official site itself doesn't list the Jeopardy game as even released yet...
[snapback]114139[/snapback]
[/quote]
The latter means nothing...the Jakks website has always been, well, Jakked.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: uncamark on March 27, 2006, 12:53:47 PM
I wonder if the "Where is your favorite place to make whoopee?" question will be on the DVD.  If I was playing, I would already have an answer.  :)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Bob Zager on March 30, 2006, 11:35:10 AM
amazon.com is now showing an illustration of box art for the table-top DOND game.  Apparently they know it is the more expensive version, but they still list the hand-held as being "table-top."  Here is the link:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...g=UTF8&v=glance (http://\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000EYF818/sr=8-1/qid=1143736103/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-3015602-2954550?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance\")
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Jamison on March 31, 2006, 10:39:06 AM
Does anybody know WHEN the new DVD Games are coming out? I can't find them on Amazon or anywhere.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Bob Zager on April 08, 2006, 04:42:10 PM
Amazon and ToysRUs.com is now taking pre-orders for the new DOND box game.  Here is a link to it:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...g=UTF8&v=glance (http://\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000ETXOF0/ref=pd_rhf_p_1/102-3892328-8253742?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance\")

If you look closely, you'll notice the contents are from the Australian edition, but I'm sure it will look different once the actual game becomes available.

I also found a press statement that MGA toys and games, which is most famous for its line of Bratz dolls and accessories, has the rights to $100,000 Pyramid.  Here is that link:

http://bratz-world.diaryland.com/TF2006.html (http://\"http://bratz-world.diaryland.com/TF2006.html\")
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on April 10, 2006, 04:12:59 PM
You mean the 100,00 Pyramid?
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: FOXSportsFan on April 10, 2006, 04:44:27 PM
[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'115823\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 04:12 PM\']
You mean the 100,00 Pyramid?
[/quote]

Hosted by Diclark?
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Bob Zager on April 10, 2006, 07:07:08 PM
boardgames.com is now showing a clearer illustration of DOND from Pressman, including the contents.  Click here to check it out:

http://www.boardgames.com/deornodega.html (http://\"http://www.boardgames.com/deornodega.html\")

While on the subject of DOND, today's Detroit News had an article on it (contributed by the New York Times).  Here is that link:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...=73241168352624 (http://\"http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060410/ENT02/604100328&SearchID=73241168352624\")
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 10, 2006, 08:01:41 PM
[quote name=\'Bob Zager\' post=\'115828\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 04:07 PM\']
boardgames.com is now showing a clearer illustration of DOND from Pressman, including the contents.  Click here to check it out:

http://www.boardgames.com/deornodega.html (http://\"http://www.boardgames.com/deornodega.html\")
[/quote]
Not to get all Odor, but I can't say I'm impressed. The door-system for the game board looks kinda chintzy, and the rest of the parts I could really assemble myself if I really wanted to instead of giving Pressman an ungodly amount of money.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: JasonA1 on April 10, 2006, 09:01:58 PM
I dunno. I guess with Endless setting the bar so low, I'm pleased with the game contents. If they had their hands on it, the money board would be crossing out figures with a crayon and there'd be no form of briefcase for the money cards. Outside of giving you plastic-molded briefcases, this is all you can do IMO. Not saying I'll pick it up anywhere but the thrift store or clearance rack, but...

-Jason
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 10, 2006, 09:09:25 PM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'115835\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 06:01 PM\']
I dunno. I guess with Endless setting the bar so low, I'm pleased with the game contents. If they had their hands on it, the money board would be crossing out figures with a crayon and there'd be no form of briefcase for the money cards. Outside of giving you plastic-molded briefcases, this is all you can do IMO.
[/quote]
Well, yeah. I admit I'm somewhat jaded going in because I think it's a completely idiotic idea for a home game. (And I DO mean idiotic. REALLY idiotic. Idiotic on a par with the notion of a WWTBAM game. Idiotic on a par with the Survivor computer games that Atari did when I was working for them. Anyone who buys this as anything other than a collector's item will earn nothing but my contempt.)

But at the same time I hold Pressman to a higher standard because they AREN'T Endless. They've done good with Wheel Of Fortune, I see no reason why they shouldn't do this right, as much as it can be done right. Just because Endless gives us crap does not mean we should sit here and take it when one of the "real" publishers drops the ball.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: JasonA1 on April 10, 2006, 09:23:03 PM
There is something to playing the WWTBAM box game by the book as a multiplayer exercise. And it's got nice components. But yes, overall, not that good of an idea.

As for DOND still, what would you want done differently?

-Jason
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 10, 2006, 09:26:37 PM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'115839\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 06:23 PM\']
As for DOND still, what would you want done differently?
[/quote]
Well, not to exist, primarily. But I realize that's not your question.

I dunno. Maybe sliders on the game board in lieu of those silly doors, like the old Fambly Feud game used to have before Endless ruined that. Or something other than cardboard sleeves and cards for the cases. (In their defense on that last one, at least the cards appear to be die-cut and of passable quality.

I'll be shocked if it hits shelves for less than $19.99, and that's a lot to pay for what is really a fairly ugly plastic scoreboard piece and a lot of paper and cardstock.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: BrandonFG on April 10, 2006, 09:49:05 PM
That "board" makes it look like a travel game. It almost makes me think it's recycled parts from the J! home game from the early-90s...the one where each category column was stand-alone, instead of a 6x6 game board.

For the "briefcases", I'd love to see a "tiered" setup, to match the steps...kinda like that board game "Guess Who?"
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 10, 2006, 09:57:40 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'115844\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 06:49 PM\']
That "board" makes it look like a travel game. It almost makes me think it's recycled parts from the J! home game from the early-90s...the one where each category column was stand-alone, instead of a 6x6 game board.
[/quote]
Which had slides. Even something like _that_ would be an improvement.
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For the "briefcases", I'd love to see a "tiered" setup, to match the steps...kinda like that board game "Guess Who?"
Ooh, that's a good idea, and the dollar amounts could be tiles that were shuffled and stuck in the back of the board. That I could get behind. I still wouldn't PLAY it, but at least the production would be interesting.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: uncamark on April 12, 2006, 04:23:44 PM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'115839\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 08:23 PM\']
There is something to playing the WWTBAM box game by the book as a multiplayer exercise. And it's got nice components. But yes, overall, not that good of an idea.

As for DOND still, what would you want done differently?
[/quote]

Howie, the Banker and 26 models come over to my house, with actual money in their hands.  :)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 12, 2006, 04:27:54 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'115969\' date=\'Apr 12 2006, 01:23 PM\']
Howie, the Banker and 26 models come over to my house, with actual money in their hands.  :)
[/quote]
You could omit "Howie", "the Banker", and "actual money" from that equation and I would still be perfectly content. :)

/giggity!
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on April 12, 2006, 08:16:45 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'115970\' date=\'Apr 12 2006, 03:27 PM\']
You could omit "Howie", "the Banker", and "actual money" from that equation and I would still be perfectly content. :)
[/quote]
I think it's fair to assume that this boards post counts would go down for a few days.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 12, 2006, 08:24:18 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'115992\' date=\'Apr 12 2006, 05:16 PM\']
I think it's fair to assume that this boards post counts would go down for a few days.
[/quote]
Certainly that would happen to my SPER-.....HI KIDS! :)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: BrandonFG on April 12, 2006, 08:33:26 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'115995\' date=\'Apr 12 2006, 08:24 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'115992\' date=\'Apr 12 2006, 05:16 PM\']
I think it's fair to assume that this boards post counts would go down for a few days.
[/quote]
Certainly that would happen to my SPER-.....HI KIDS! :)
[/quote]
Glad I've already had my dinner.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: TLEberle on April 13, 2006, 03:08:40 AM
The only way I would consider playing "Deal or No Deal" would be as a gambling game. Someone offers to act as the bank, and other players pay an entry fee of $x, and the dollar amounts go from $0.01 to $5x. Whatever you deal for or open is yours to keep. Rotate the bank as appropriate. (The way I'm thinking of would be $5 ante and $25 as the jackpot.)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 13, 2006, 10:24:18 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'116041\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 12:08 AM\']
The only way I would consider playing "Deal or No Deal" would be as a gambling game. Someone offers to act as the bank, and other players pay an entry fee of $x, and the dollar amounts go from $0.01 to $5x. Whatever you deal for or open is yours to keep. Rotate the bank as appropriate. (The way I'm thinking of would be $5 ante and $25 as the jackpot.)
[/quote]
I'm not sure why that would be interesting, either. In that case (and it amuses me that you mention this, considering our discussions on other boards), the concept of "pot odds" is now TOTALLY in play, and it's reduced to a mundane mathematical exercise, since it's a game of perfect information...either you're being lowballed, in which case you No Deal, or you get a fair offer, and it's basically a coin toss. Or the Banker slips up and offers you too much, and you take it, in which case the game now becomes Who's Better At Math.

I wouldn't be surprised to see something pop up as a Vegas table game (hey, if they can do Card Sharks...) to prey on semi-drunk people who CAN'T do the math, but around the table with your buddies? I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong, but I dunno.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Neumms on April 13, 2006, 11:35:54 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116058\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 09:24 AM\']
I wouldn't be surprised to see something pop up as a Vegas table game (hey, if they can do Card Sharks...) to prey on semi-drunk people who CAN'T do the math, but around the table with your buddies? I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong, but I dunno.
[/quote]

It's already a slot machine. I saw it at Black Bear casino just south of Duluth--not exactly trendsetter country--last summer before the show even premiered here. I excitedly told my bride how they had slots based on an Australian game show, but she didn't share my enthusiasm and insisted we get back in the car and keep driving north.

There's a fundamental problem with DoND as a gambling game: You can't lose.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 13, 2006, 11:49:29 AM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'116074\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 08:35 AM\']
It's already a slot machine.[/quote]
Yeah, slot machines don't count. The MGM Grand has a (very simplified) version of the Card Sharks Money Cards as an actual table game.
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There's a fundamental problem with DoND as a gambling game: You can't lose.
Not sure what you mean. Seems to me it would work like the casinos that spread Klondike Solitaire as a table game...you buy in for a certain amount of money, and you're paid back based on how well you do, and sometimes you're paid back more than the deck cost you, and sometimes you're paid back less. The latter I would absolutely call a loss.

Rest assured that if DoND were spread as a table game, the cost of admission and the "case" and Bank payouts would be massaged such that over the long run the casino makes money.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Neumms on April 13, 2006, 02:10:33 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116075\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 10:49 AM\']
Not sure what you mean. Seems to me it would work like the casinos that spread Klondike Solitaire as a table game...you buy in for a certain amount of money, and you're paid back based on how well you do, and sometimes you're paid back more than the deck cost you, and sometimes you're paid back less. The latter I would absolutely call a loss.
[/quote]

I don't know Klondike Solitaire, but I was thinking that you never walk away from the game with nothing--you always have at least a penny in your case and there will always be a bank offer.

The trouble here is how much would you ante? Say, the middle value on the board? The 5th highest value?

The bank offers would have to be drastically refigured to prevent a conservative player from settling for a small profit over and over. I suppose they could come far later in the game (which would make it way faster to play).

Money Cards would be way cool. Despite the rule differences, is it called "Card Sharks" and everything? And wasn't the whole high-low thing a card game way before the show ever came out?
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: uncamark on April 13, 2006, 02:17:33 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'116084\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 01:10 PM\']
Money Cards would be way cool. Despite the rule differences, is it called "Card Sharks" and everything? And wasn't the whole high-low thing a card game way before the show ever came out?
[/quote]

They call it Acey-Deucey.

It was even on television before "CS"--Bob Hastings or Jack Clark would play Acey-Deucey with the audience over the credits on "Dealer's Choice."  Even though the host's mike was turned off during the credits, at least one instance of one of them starting up before the credits made it clear that Acey-Deucey was played for casino chips (or whatever they did when the show moved to LA).  Hastings or Clark carried around a deck of cards, would come up to an audience member and ask them if they thought the next card on top of the deck was higher or lower than the one they were showing.  If they were right, they got the chips.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 13, 2006, 03:06:46 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'116084\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 11:10 AM\']
I don't know Klondike Solitaire, but I was thinking that you never walk away from the game with nothing--you always have at least a penny in your case and there will always be a bank offer.
[/quote]
Yeah you do. You can play it on any Windows box. (Comes with Macs, too, doesn't it? It's gotta. Someone wanna buy me a MacBook Pro so I can research this? :))

The Vegas version, as I know it: you pay $52 for the deck. Flip one card at a time, one trip through the deck, and the house pays you $5 for every card that makes it up to the foundation piles. So when that eleventh card makes it up there, you're making money. Otherwise, you're losing it.

So if you buy into DoND for $50 and wind up with $10 in your case, that's a net loss, yes? Same as if you walked up to a Big Six wheel and dropped a buck on every single betting space...you're gonna win SOMETHING, but whether you win more than you laid out is another matter entirely.
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The trouble here is how much would you ante? Say, the middle value on the board? The 5th highest value?
I'm not even gonna get into that, because I have no idea. All of the mathematical stuff is for someone paid good money to make those computations to figure out.
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Money Cards would be way cool. Despite the rule differences, is it called "Card Sharks" and everything? And wasn't the whole high-low thing a card game way before the show ever came out?
Yes. At the MGM Grand, it is in fact called Card Sharks, and works thusly:

Player is given a base card, which they may change. If they call three cards after that, they win even money, and a chance to play the Bonus Round, which is the same process. If they win that they win a second bet (as in, the same amount they won the first time), but if they lose in the Bonus Round, they go away with the even money they won the first time.

[quote date=\'Apr 13 2006, 11:17 AM\']They call it Acey-Deucey.[/quote]
Not exactly, I don't think. Acey-Deucey as I know it is a game where you are dealt two cards and wager as to whether the third card dealt falls between the first two in rank. So called because getting an Ace and a Deuce is the best start you could ask for.

(I don't remember the name now, but Mike Burger has a pilot on his Pilot Light page where this is the premise, moreso than Card Sharks was.)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: JasonA1 on April 13, 2006, 04:11:51 PM
That pilot would be Split Decision.

-Jason
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: dzinkin on April 13, 2006, 04:45:36 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116091\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 03:06 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'116084\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 11:10 AM\']I don't know Klondike Solitaire, but I was thinking that you never walk away from the game with nothing--you always have at least a penny in your case and there will always be a bank offer.
[/quote]Yeah you do. You can play it on any Windows box. (Comes with Macs, too, doesn't it? It's gotta. Someone wanna buy me a MacBook Pro so I can research this? :))
[/quote]
Oddly enough, no.  The iMac Core Duo on my desk comes with Checkers, Chess, Reversi, Mancala, Backgammon, 4-in-a-Row and Tic-Tac-Toe, and my MacBook Pro came with no games at all.

That said, there's a terrific free version of solitaire for OS X here (http://\"http://www.solitaireforever.com/klondike/\").
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 13, 2006, 05:15:10 PM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'116098\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 01:11 PM\']
That pilot would be Split Decision.
[/quote]
That was the name. Thanks, Jason.

[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'116102\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 01:45 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116091\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 03:06 PM\']
Yeah you do. You can play it on any Windows box. (Comes with Macs, too, doesn't it? It's gotta. Someone wanna buy me a MacBook Pro so I can research this? :))
[/quote]
Oddly enough, no.  The iMac Core Duo on my desk comes with Checkers, Chess, Reversi, Mancala, Backgammon, 4-in-a-Row and Tic-Tac-Toe, and my MacBook Pro came with no games at all.
[/quote]
Nonetheless, I reiterate my request for a well-heeled benefactor to buy me a MacBook Pro so I can do extensive research. :)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Casey Buck on April 13, 2006, 06:11:21 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'116102\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 01:45 PM\']  [quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116091\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 03:06 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'116084\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 11:10 AM\']I  don't know Klondike Solitaire, but I was thinking that you never walk  away from the game with nothing--you always have at least a penny in  your case and there will always be a bank offer.
[/quote]Yeah  you do. You can play it on any Windows box. (Comes with Macs, too,  doesn't it? It's gotta. Someone wanna buy me a MacBook Pro so I can  research this? :))
[/quote]
Oddly enough, no. The iMac Core Duo  on my desk comes with Checkers, Chess, Reversi, Mancala, Backgammon,  4-in-a-Row and Tic-Tac-Toe, and my MacBook Pro came with no games at  all.

That said, there's a terrific free version of solitaire for OS X here (http://\"http://www.solitaireforever.com/klondike/\"). [/quote]

Wait a minute, I thought the only game that comes bundled with Mac OS X is Chess (which is basically GnuChess with a GUI). I guess the iMac Core Duos come bundled with extra games beyond that, though.

Regarding solitare, I like Eric's Ultimate Solitare  (http://\"http://www.deltatao.com/ultimate/\")a lot, if you ask me, and there's the freeware Klondike (http://\"http://www.casteel.org/\"), which most resembles the MS version.

Then again, since the new Intel Macs can run Windows XP natively via Boot Camp (http://\"http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/\"), you can run Windows Solitare if you really want. :)

--
Casey Buck
The other resident Mac-head.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 13, 2006, 06:18:22 PM
[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'116121\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 03:11 PM\']
Then again, since the new Intel Macs can run Windows XP natively via Boot Camp (http://\"http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/\"), you can run Windows Solitare if you really want. :)
[/quote]
Well, hold yer applause on that. I've heard tell of stories of Boot Camp REALLY screwing up people's systems. As in, they can't even get back to the MAC partition to boot from again. So apparently it's a little more beta than people thought.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: dzinkin on April 13, 2006, 06:30:40 PM
[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' post=\'116121\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 06:11 PM\']
Wait a minute, I thought the only game that comes bundled with Mac OS X is Chess (which is basically GnuChess with a GUI). I guess the iMac Core Duos come bundled with extra games beyond that, though.
[/quote]
It's not even the same chess -- Apple licensed Big Bang Board Games (http://\"http://www.freeverse.com/bbbg/\") for inclusion with the new iMacs.  The games I listed make up the package.

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116123\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 06:18 PM\']
Well, hold yer applause on that. I've heard tell of stories of Boot Camp REALLY screwing up people's systems. As in, they can't even get back to the MAC partition to boot from again. So apparently it's a little more beta than people thought.
[/quote]
It is indeed; although at least some of the reports are from people who didn't take the precautions Apple recommended, there are enough from people who actually followed the guidelines that I'd be hesitant to recommend its widespread use.  Of course, I've been given a MacBook Pro for the next few months with the express intent of beating the hell out of it, so if I have to reformat, no big deal.

Parallels (http://\"http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/mac/\"), while also beta, hasn't had similar reports of FUBARed partitions to my knowledge.  And you don't need to reboot to use Windows. :-)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 13, 2006, 06:46:03 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'116125\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 03:30 PM\']
Parallels (http://\"http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/mac/\"), while also beta, hasn't had similar reports of FUBARed partitions to my knowledge.  And you don't need to reboot to use Windows. :-)
[/quote]
Haven't had a chance to hear much about Parallels yet, but I'm certainly more interested in that than I am Boot Camp, espeically if it's able to do its thing without much of a performance dive. If you can run an FPS decently through it, I'd be sold. :)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Clay Zambo on April 14, 2006, 10:27:42 AM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'116086\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 01:17 PM\']
Even though the host's mike was turned off during the credits, at least one instance of one of them starting up before the credits made it clear that Acey-Deucey was played for casino chips (or whatever they did when the show moved to LA). [/quote]

In LA, didn't they play for tortilla chips?

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116126\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 05:46 PM\']
Haven't had a chance to hear much about Parallels yet, but I'm certainly more interested in that than I am Boot Camp, espeically if it's able to do its thing without much of a performance dive. If you can run an FPS decently through it, I'd be sold. :)
[/quote]

Pogue's coverage of Parallels in the NY Times suggest that it runs Windows slower than Boot Camp does.  And--at least so far, in its beta version--DVDs don't play, USB ports don't work, and 3D graphics aren't.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 14, 2006, 10:58:34 AM
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'116161\' date=\'Apr 14 2006, 07:27 AM\']
Pogue's coverage of Parallels in the NY Times suggest that it runs Windows slower than Boot Camp does.  
[/quote]
Well, I expect that, since you still have the MacOS overhead when you're using Parallels, whereas Boot Camp allows you to run XP natively. The question is whether there is still enough performance left to run the stuff I'd want to run adequately.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Clay Zambo on April 14, 2006, 12:32:56 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116163\' date=\'Apr 14 2006, 09:58 AM\']
The question is whether there is still enough performance left to run the stuff I'd want to run adequately.
[/quote]

"Wicked fast," is how I hear it described.  Of course, Macfolk might be thinking of that in the sense of "unholy"...
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Neumms on April 14, 2006, 12:35:03 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116091\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 02:06 PM\']
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'116084\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 11:10 AM\']
I don't know Klondike Solitaire, but I was thinking that you never walk away from the game with nothing--you always have at least a penny in your case and there will always be a bank offer.
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Yeah you do. You can play it on any Windows box. (Comes with Macs, too, doesn't it? It's gotta. Someone wanna buy me a MacBook Pro so I can research this? :))
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If my MacBook Pro keeps f---ing up, I'll mail it to ya just to get rid of it. This one, as someone else said, only comes with chess, but of course I've played solitaire. My DVD burner doesn't work, and iWeb is just good enough to get me excited but then disappoint. And the modem keeps crapping out, though that may be because we now have two computers on it. But the two-finger-on-the-touchpad scrolling is cool.

Chris, "Split Decision" was based on In-Between, not Acey-Deucey. Us fellas would play it in the basement--there may be a different casino name for it. It's the one where if you bet "pot," you could lose hundreds of dollars if the middle card matched one of the others.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 14, 2006, 01:28:32 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'116167\' date=\'Apr 14 2006, 09:35 AM\']
Chris, "Split Decision" was based on In-Between, not Acey-Deucey. Us fellas would play it in the basement--there may be a different casino name for it. It's the one where if you bet "pot," you could lose hundreds of dollars if the middle card matched one of the others.
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I'm sure there are other names, but I cite the following:

http://www.pokernews.com/pokerterms/acey-deucey.html (http://\"http://www.pokernews.com/pokerterms/acey-deucey.html\")

http://www.pagat.com/banking/yablon.html (http://\"http://www.pagat.com/banking/yablon.html\")

http://www.poker.com/game/non-poker-games/inbetween.htm (http://\"http://www.poker.com/game/non-poker-games/inbetween.htm\")

Also, to demonstrate history, a video game manual from the late 70's:

http://www.ozyr.com/bally/b5002.html (http://\"http://www.ozyr.com/bally/b5002.html\")

So it appears we're both right.
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: Neumms on April 15, 2006, 03:59:32 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116169\' date=\'Apr 14 2006, 12:28 PM\']
Also, to demonstrate history, a video game manual from the late 70's:

http://www.ozyr.com/bally/b5002.html (http://\"http://www.ozyr.com/bally/b5002.html\")

So it appears we're both right.
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By jove, I never realized they were the same game. The Slots-a-Fun casino in Las Vegas, next door to Circus Circus, has Red Dog, as well as complimentary shrimp cocktail. Neither treated me very well.

And thanks for the Bally reference! Oh, for a brisk game of Artillery Duel or Wizards of Wor (or whatever their name for it was).
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: clemon79 on April 15, 2006, 06:21:05 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'116235\' date=\'Apr 15 2006, 12:59 PM\']
And thanks for the Bally reference! Oh, for a brisk game of Artillery Duel or Wizards of Wor (or whatever their name for it was).
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Seeing as it was a Bally/Midway property, I'm guessing their name for it was in fact "Wizard of Wor". :)
Title: Forthcoming game show games
Post by: dzinkin on April 15, 2006, 06:30:59 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'116243\' date=\'Apr 15 2006, 06:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'116235\' date=\'Apr 15 2006, 12:59 PM\']
And thanks for the Bally reference! Oh, for a brisk game of Artillery Duel or Wizards of Wor (or whatever their name for it was).
[/quote]
Seeing as it was a Bally/Midway property, I'm guessing their name for it was in fact "Wizard of Wor". :)
[/quote]
Oddly enough, no -- since another company (CBS Electronics) had the home video game rights to Wizard of Wor, the Astrocade version was called "Incredible Wizard."  Similiarly, the Astrocade version of Pac-Man was called "Muncher" because Atari owned the home rights to the original.

If memory serves, Bally didn't even own the Astrocade by the time those two games were released -- but I'll defer to others who are more familiar with the history.