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Check the Nielsen Top 20 ratings for the week of March 6th to the 12th. How many NBC shows can you spot? http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/nielsen.htm (http://\"http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/nielsen.htm\").
I knew NBC was deep in the toilet but this is ridiculous! Between this scarcity of top-rated hits and the debacle of 'Joey' returning to a paltry 4 million viewers (Tuesday's scheduled 'Joey' episodes were replaced by repeats of 'Outrageous TV Moments') I wouldn't be surprised if NBC buys the rights to 'Super Millionaire' when/if ABC chooses to let them expire in a couple of months.
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[quote name=\'dad1153\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 02:08 AM\']I wouldn't be surprised if NBC buys the rights to 'Super Millionaire' when/if ABC chooses to let them expire in a couple of months.
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If you really think that the Mouse is gonna let that show out of their sights, you're not...
...oh, never mind.
/16 posts and I've come to my conclusion. Is that a record?
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I came to mine at 4. I've seen the GSN boards.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 07:44 AM\']I came to mine at 4. I've seen the GSN boards.
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Why you little... I ought to... :(
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Calm down, Daffy Duck. Read some other posts and see what gets lots of respect and what doesn't.
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[quote name=\'dad1153\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 05:08 AM\'](snip)
I wouldn't be surprised if NBC buys the rights to 'Super Millionaire' when/if ABC chooses to let them expire in a couple of months.
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Alright, children, let's calm down here.
Wouldn't giving up the rights to Super Millionaire likely require giving up the rights to Millionaire, period? I'm no expert on this subject, so I'm throwing the question out there and hoping someone "in the know" can give me a useful answer.
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According to this Buzzer entry (http://\"http://buzzerblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/abc-get-off-your-asses.html\"), ABC has until May to renew Millionaire, or else they lose the rights.
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Quick thing before I go to classes. Yeah, what I was told by a lot of higher-ups is that Millionaire had a 3 year renewal period ending on May 2006 to renew, or they basically lose the rights. If someone knows better, please post. And if they do lose the rights, hell, GSN would cancel everything they have for new episodes of Millionaire. If they publicize it enough, the ratings would be ungodly for the network. Reruns were getting a .9. They aren't down terrible much from that now.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 01:25 PM\'] And if they do lose the rights, hell, GSN would cancel everything they have for new episodes of Millionaire.
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Could GSN realistically afford those rights? It's one thing to buy the rights to an unproven show but Millionaire could be scandously high.
CBS paid $20 Million for the rights to Big Brother (an unknown quantity). Millionaire could be 2 or 3 times as much (speculation on my part) and paying big bucks for tAR didn't exactly pan out for them.
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I thought that ABC had until May 2007 to air Millionaire (three years from when it last aired on ABC in May 2004), but I can't find any definitive references. I could be wrong on that; any definitive information would be appreciated, since I can't find it.
I sure hope we see Super Millionaire back on ABC soon. If not, I'm sure FOX would take it given the ratings of most of their programs, and NBC probably wouldn't refuse the opportunity given the success of "Deal or No Deal".
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[quote name=\'StevensM\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 03:27 PM\']I thought that ABC had until May 2007 to air Millionaire (three years from when it last aired on ABC in May 2004), but I can't find any definitive references. I could be wrong on that; any definitive information would be appreciated, since I can't find it.
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Does the deal require them to actually produce and air shows, though? Can't they just write someone a check to retain the rights to do so? I can see it being worth their money just so that someone else doesn't put Millionaire up AGAINST them.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 03:30 PM\']Can't they just write someone a check to retain the rights to do so? I can see it being worth their money just so that someone else doesn't put Millionaire up AGAINST them.[/quote]
Okay, it's probably the fact that I'm not in the TV biz, but this makes no sense to me. If there's a show that you have the rights to, and it's good enough you don't want to be up against it, then why the heck are you not airing it? Yes, I know ABC has some hits right now, but surely their schedule isn't so jam-packed with them that they couldn't find room for a show they believe would be successful. What gives?
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I'm not saying it makes any sense to me, either. But this is also the same network that airs "According To Jim" and looks like they're gonna just burn off "Commander In Chief", so I'd say that intelligent programming moves aren't their forte anyhow.
I don't think paying for it to shelve it would be terribly bright, either, but I've seen stranger things happen in the world of network TV - I worked at a Fox station when they debuted FoxTrax, remember. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 03:54 PM\']but I've seen stranger things happen in the world of network TV - I worked at a Fox station when they debuted FoxTrax, remember. :)[/quote]
Hey, now. Don't knock FoxTrax! Reading about that in the paper was the *only* reason I watched my first hockey game, and now I'm hooked. So *some* good did come of it....
ObGameShow: Lingo also superimposes strange graphical stuff.
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[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 04:52 PM\']Hey, now. Don't knock FoxTrax! Reading about that in the paper was the *only* reason I watched my first hockey game, and now I'm hooked. So *some* good did come of it....
ObGameShow: Lingo also superimposes strange graphical stuff.
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I actually enjoyed it, too. But I have a tape of the first event they used it at, the 1996 All-Star Game in Boston, and MAN was that some rough stuff to watch. It did get better, though, over time.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 06:30 PM\']Does the deal require them to actually produce and air shows, though? Can't they just write someone a check to retain the rights to do so? I can see it being worth their money just so that someone else doesn't put Millionaire up AGAINST them.
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As far as I'm aware, if the show doesn't air by whatever the deadline is, the rights to the primetime show can be sold to another network. ABC could elect to wait until the deadline, but they'd run the risk of another network gaining the rights and using the show to counter ABC programming.
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Let's do some more math here.
Assuming that Katie Couric goes to CBS, and Meredith Viera goes to NBC to replace her (Meredith's contract with ABC is up in September I believe), NBC can also kill 3 birds with one stone.
NBC/U can grab the syndicated AND network versions of Millionaire for themselves to distribute. Hire Meredith for the Today show and give her Millionaire (as her current View deal requires) daytime.
Hire Regis to do the nighttime version (or even consequently have Meredith do it during sweeps), and problem solved.
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' date=\'Mar 19 2006, 03:12 AM\']Let's do some more math here.
Assuming that Katie Couric goes to CBS, and Meredith Viera goes to NBC to replace her (Meredith's contract with ABC is up in September I believe), NBC can also kill 3 birds with one stone.
NBC/U can grab the syndicated AND network versions of Millionaire for themselves to distribute. Hire Meredith for the Today show and give her Millionaire (as her current View deal requires) daytime.
Hire Regis to do the nighttime version (or even consequently have Meredith do it during sweeps), and problem solved.
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Not so fast. We're only talking about ABC, not Buena Vista Television. I really don't see BVTV losing the syndicated or production rights any time soon. Could BVTV/Celador still produce Millionaire and it be on another net? Sure (see House, for instance; NBCU produces and Fox airs).
But with NBCU eventually coming out with Deal syndicated, I don't think NBC wants to worry about Millionaire, either.
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I think Buena Vista could give a flip where else Meredith Vieira works. She doesn't openly promote her other ventures while hosting "Millionaire". It has absolutely no bearing on whether Katie Couric goes to CBS. Nor will Buena Vista hand over its cash cow to another distributor just because its host is jumping networks.
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By the way, DoND really romped and stomped in its latest showing on Monday 3/20. The show hit new highs with 9.7/14 in households and 5.5 in 18-49. It easily dominated the hour, with the return of Fox's Prison Break doing little to stop its momentum. I wouldn't be surprised if the show breaks into double-digits in households pretty soon on Monday, which would be almost paradise for woeful NBC.
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Looks like it is a hit. It's nice to see a game show that is set in a studio and hosted by a male get good numbers.
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*Plays "Loud as a Peacock" in the background*
Yeah, DoND is the possible saving grace for NBC. But, the last time they the Peacock was this bad off...well...Fred Silverman had a hand in it.
Ironically, the sports department might save it next year with the NFL and such (they may also get at least a share of baseball back).
Great idea...hire Ed Kalehoff to do a new image campaign for NBC based on WNBC's early 90s promo...changed from "I'm 4 New York" to "We're Number 4" (seeing as how they finish 4th to FOX of course) I can hear it now.
"We're Number 4
(Number 4)
We're Number 4
Let's show the rest of the world how we suck
We're Number 4
(Number 4)
We're Number 4
[Oh (BLEEP)]
Lacking pride
(Lacking pride)
Lacking joy
(Lacking joy)
The world is not watchin'
Our shows make you say 'What the (BLEEP)?'
We're NUMBER 4!"
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Uh. Yeah.
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I don't know which is worse....Edwardsstalker's hiakus, or this.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:13 AM\'][bad American Idol audition snipped]
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GONG!
Off to the Unan1mous room with you!
ObGS: JD Roth executive produces Unan1mous. The guy's come a long way since Fun House...I'm just not sure which way. :-)
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 01:47 PM\'][quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:13 AM\'][bad American Idol audition snipped]
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GONG!
Off to the Unan1mous room with you!
ObGS: JD Roth executive produces Unan1mous. The guy's come a long way since Fun House...I'm just not sure which way. :-)
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Wow, a trip to a room of a show I've never even heard of...that has to be bad. Do I at least get a blindfold and ear plugs?
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 10:57 AM\']Do I at least get a blindfold and ear plugs?
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Oh, you'll get a plug. It doesn't go in your ear, though.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 02:09 PM\'][quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 10:57 AM\']Do I at least get a blindfold and ear plugs?
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Oh, you'll get a plug. It doesn't go in your ear, though.
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I follow...I'm scared...I want to head back to the original point of the topic...
It's been talked about in other posts/threads about how NBC is using DoND much how ABC used "Millionaire". Having seen how the show has gone through it's infant airing, if you will, do any of you see long term success with this show...as in this show could still be around 2 years from now?
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 11:12 AM\']It's been talked about in other posts/threads about how NBC is using DoND much how ABC used "Millionaire". Having seen how the show has gone through it's infant airing, if you will, do any of you see long term success with this show...as in this show could still be around 2 years from now?
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If they keep running it into the ground like this? No. Two times a week was borderline. Three times a week is ludicrous, and people will simply get tired of watching it, it won't be special anymore.
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Three times a week is ludicrous, and people will simply get tired of watching it, it won't be special anymore.
I've thought the same thing. At this rate, I wonder if it will even make it to the planned syndie version in 2007. It's great that each game is so different from the others, and I think it has something that just hooks you in, but because there's not much "game" there I think the average viewer will tire of it eventually.
Personally, I'm kind of hooked right now so I'm glad I don't have to wait long between episodes, but I know it would be better for the show in the long run to hold off a bit.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 04:14 PM\'] At this rate, I wonder if it will even make it to the planned syndie version in 2007.
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As of now, there is no plan to debut a syndie version in 2007. Speculation, yes, but official word on show, date, format, host, etc, no.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:13 AM\'][bad American Idol audition
Off to the Unan1mous room with you!
ObGS: JD Roth executive produces Unan1mous. The guy's come a long way since Fun House...I'm just not sure which way. :-)
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I really, really hope this show tanks.
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FWIW, Watching Tuesday's (3/21) "Live w/ Reege & Kelly", Regis mentioned that Meridith was indeedc going to 30 Rock.
His wife Joy, who was filling in for Kelly, asked if Regis would ever consider doing Millionaire again if Meredith didn't or couldn't return, he pretty much said he wouldn't be interested.
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 01:47 PM\']JD Roth executive produces Unan1mous. The guy's come a long way since Fun House...I'm just not sure which way. :-)
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If it gets to the point where JD Roth replaces Pat O'Brien on The Insider one of these days, then he might be going the wrong way.
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 05:47 PM\'][quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:13 AM\'][bad American Idol audition
Off to the Unan1mous room with you!
ObGS: JD Roth executive produces Unan1mous. The guy's come a long way since Fun House...I'm just not sure which way. :-)
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I really, really hope this show tanks.
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Well, this morning Berman said that it got "ample sampling" as a result of being given the dream slot coming out of "Idol" (and having only the Dharma show on CBS not already in progress at 9:30). Still, 40 percent of the audience went elsewhere at 9:30. We'll see what happens next week.
(It should be mentioned that one of us on this board works on that show. Not that that didn't stop us from ripping apart Mandel over "Card Guppies." :))
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 23 2006, 02:56 PM\']Well, this morning Berman said that it got "ample sampling" as a result of being given the dream slot coming out of "Idol" (and having only the Dharma show on CBS not already in progress at 9:30). Still, 40 percent of the audience went elsewhere at 9:30. We'll see what happens next week.
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<Marv Albert>YESSSSSS!!!!</Marv Albert> I hope it dives further next week.
[quote name=\'uncamark\'](It should be mentioned that one of us on this board works on that show. Not that that didn't stop us from ripping apart Mandel over "Card Guppies." :))
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Well, I don't want said person to be out of work, but I don't care. That show has such a mean, twisted concept, that no, I don't want something like that to succeed.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:54 PM\']FWIW, Watching Tuesday's (3/21) "Live w/ Reege & Kelly", Regis mentioned that Meridith was indeedc going to 30 Rock.
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I see nothing online stating that. Can you corroborate this?
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Mar 23 2006, 05:39 PM\']Well, I don't want said person to be out of work, but I don't care. That show has such a mean, twisted concept, that no, I don't want something like that to succeed.
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It's not that it's mean and twisted to me, it's just _stupid_. I fail to see any reason why someone would voluntarily agree to make someone else the winner.
It strikes me that their intent is to humiliate people out of the game. Which, really, when you think about it, is par for the course on Fox, so is there anything to get worked up about?
And they're airing it opposite...the second half-hour of Lost? Yeah, that has a prayer. I wouldn't be concerned.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 23 2006, 05:54 PM\']It's not that it's mean and twisted to me, it's just _stupid_. I fail to see any reason why someone would voluntarily agree to make someone else the winner.[/quote] I gave it the game try like I do for any new game show, and I couldn't get on board, mainly for that reason. Sure, games like Survivor and Big Brother involve political maneuvering to convince other players to essentially give you the money, but there's nothing here to watch. The conflict on those shows is amusing because of the situation. We have nine people sitting on their asses, being told when to eat, sleep, pee and vote people out. Yawn.
It strikes me that their intent is to humiliate people out of the game. Which, really, when you think about it, is par for the course on Fox, so is there anything to get worked up about?
That's the thing. No game means they have to go another route, which is something I didn't realize until I had actually seen the game in action. Unless one person can manage to bully the others into losing, I predict the first 'adventure' show with no winner.
And they're airing it opposite...the second half-hour of Lost? Yeah, that has a prayer. I wouldn't be concerned.
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So the passwords are "No" "Prize" "Excitement" and "Viewers." "I'd like to solve the puzzle! Is it the Fox Network?"
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Mar 23 2006, 08:50 PM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:54 PM\']FWIW, Watching Tuesday's (3/21) "Live w/ Reege & Kelly", Regis mentioned that Meridith was indeedc going to 30 Rock.
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Brandon Brooks
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Reege also said that Katie *WAS* leaving Today. Reege got it all wrong. I'm sure that if Katie was indeed leaving, it woulda been ALL OVER the entertainment news sites by now.