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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Chelsea Thrasher on August 18, 2004, 12:36:18 AM
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http://adlink.com/resource_center/programm...04&endtime=1770 (http://\"http://adlink.com/resource_center/programming_grids/apg.cfm?netid=14909&begweek=09/27/2004&endtime=1770\")
Big. Changes.
Match Game goes from 3 to 5 slots
All New 3's a Crowd goes from 1 to 3 slots
Russian Roulette, Weakest Link get big timeslot upgrades...Family Feud two-pack on weekdays gets minor downgrade.
Lingo down to once only on weekdays, and scattered weekend airings. (Rerun abuse setting in?)
SpyTV weekends only
World Series of Blackjack swaps out with Celebrity Blackjack
Greed gets a double-run on Mondays
...and it goes on, and on....
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All things considered, I guess this would be considered a passable schedule in the post Network era. Always great to see the return of Hollywood Showdown.
BUT 19 AIRINGS OF ALL NEW 3's A CROWD A WEEK?!?!
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All New 3's a Crowd, effective with this September schedule, will air more weekly than any show on the network besides Match Game and Street Smarts.
I just don't understand what on Earth could be gained from airing an original that produced it's last first run episodes four years ago and that got kicked off the network TWO years ago...
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 01:05 AM\'] I just don't understand what on Earth could be gained from airing an original that produced it's last first run episodes four years ago and that got kicked off the network TWO years ago... [/quote]
They must feel it'll attract the young'uns.
Aren't Password and WML? supposed to be done by then? Guess they're going to retread them...Meh (yeah, I know, be lucky they're on at all, shut up already).
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Aug 17 2004, 11:36 PM\'] http://adlink.com/resource_center/programm...04&endtime=1770 (http://\"http://adlink.com/resource_center/programming_grids/apg.cfm?netid=14909&begweek=09/27/2004&endtime=1770\")
Big. Changes.
Match Game goes from 3 to 5 slots
All New 3's a Crowd goes from 1 to 3 slots
Russian Roulette, Weakest Link get big timeslot upgrades...Family Feud two-pack on weekdays gets minor downgrade.
Lingo down to once only on weekdays, and scattered weekend airings. (Rerun abuse setting in?)
SpyTV weekends only
World Series of Blackjack swaps out with Celebrity Blackjack
Greed gets a double-run on Mondays
...and it goes on, and on.... [/quote]
Could be worse, but could be better. Assuming Adlink is correct, the only
classic show loss as of 9/27 will be WOF. Those who bitch about GSN airing only the 1988-89 season may stop doing so. It will be the first schedule in GSN's 10 year history not to include WOF. J!, Feud, and Newlywed will now be the only classic game shows to have aired for all 10 years of GSN's history.
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I really like this schedule. Its safe to assume that Friend or Foe? and Whammy will be gone shortly. The only reason FoF was on the schedule in this first place was because of Fake A Date IMO. Being the RR fan I am, its nice to see RR have a good time slot. Its amazing to me that RR still gets good ratings, according to GW, and the show has been in reruns forever. GSN will apparently be waiting until Gene Rayburn rises from his grave till they show the Lingo Tourney of Champions.
The bad- Why on gods earth must GSN put All New 3s A Crowd back? And 3 times a week?! This is hopefully something that will not last long. Weakest Link needs to go to a weekend only slot also. How about we pull out some 21 for a little bit? And I dont understand how Dog Eat Dog is still on. I understand that the show is doing good, but there are not many episodes made. We will be having the same episodes over and over to the point of WinTuition level rerun abuse. That would be a nice change. Overall, this is the best schedule I have seen since June of 2002.
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I like this schedule, and one neat thing about it stands out to me., albeit really stupid..
MG will be on weekdays from 3-4pm (in the Eastern Time Zone), which means an episode will air from 3:30-4, just like where CBS put it for a good chunk of the '70s! That's some nostalgia value.
Of course, half the fun will next be travelling to GSN's forums to see the reaction to this...
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One last thing to add to speculation (or not)....
The Adlink schedule has, from 5:30-8:30 AM (EST) on Sundays, "TBA". Another classics block?
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 08:12 AM\'] I really like this schedule. Its safe to assume that Friend or Foe? and Whammy will be gone shortly. The only reason FoF was on the schedule in this first place was because of Fake A Date IMO. Being the RR fan I am, its nice to see RR have a good time slot. Its amazing to me that RR still gets good ratings, according to GW, and the show has been in reruns forever. [/quote]
Um... ok, maybe I'm just being slow this morning, but can someone connect the dots here for me? How does FoF relate to Fake a Date?
And yes, it's interesting to see more RR exposure, but we'll see how well all of this pans out by, say, November.
I'm not one to complain about GSN, heck I haven't watched it in months. But Sept 2004 looks pretty crappy compared to, say, Sept 2001 (purely talking about the GSN sched).
T
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 08:19 AM\'] Um... ok, maybe I'm just being slow this morning, but can someone connect the dots here for me? How does FoF relate to Fake a Date? [/quote]
They both suck? :)
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 10:19 AM\'] Um... ok, maybe I'm just being slow this morning, but can someone connect the dots here for me? How does FoF relate to Fake a Date? [/quote]
They were made by the same company, Buccieri. I just assume that FoF just came as a deal with Fake A Date, and that was one of the few reasons it survived.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 10:34 AM\'] [quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 10:19 AM\'] Um... ok, maybe I'm just being slow this morning, but can someone connect the dots here for me? How does FoF relate to Fake a Date? [/quote]
They were made by the same company, Buccieri. I just assume that FoF just came as a deal with Fake A Date, and that was one of the few reasons it survived. [/quote]
Ahh I see. So they gave GSN FoF reruns for cheap if they bought FaD? That's an interesting thought.
Question - how much control does GSN have over it's original shows? I mean, I know they aren't produced "in house" or whatever (please correct me if I'm wrong), but is the net actively involved in making the shows, or just placing the ep orders?
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Every GSN original BESIDES Russian Roulette is GSN exclusive. Russian Roulette is a Sony show syndicated to GSN. Whoever would syndicate a game show to GSN has severe head problems. However, GSN does hold the right to order new episodes of RR as with all the originals. I also learned this from talking to Gunnar Wetterberg: They cant do a thing with the originals as long as GSN holds them. He and Mark L said they wouldnt have minded pitching RR to syndication or a network, but GSN wont give up the rights.
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A very traditional schedule. Everything is studio game shows except Star Search, Spy TV and (very, very arguably - I should know, I've argued it very, very often) Blackjack.
All New Three's a Crock should be sleeping with the fishes, but the double run at midnight my time makes no difference to me. Street Smarts is spread all over the place, which is fine with me because I've gotten to like the show quite a bit. Newlywed Game also returns in force, which again is no problem with moi.
The prime time schedule shouts "temporary" until new series of Blackjack and Dodgeball are ready, plus the pool and horseracing shows, the return of KvS, and any other as-yet-unannounced projects. Something tells me that Greed and Weakest Link will not endure for many months in all those prime time slots.
Wonder if Mr. Sajak had anything to do with the disappearance of WoF. He seemed less than overjoyed with the show getting any exposure at all on GSN. Gee, Pat, it's only a itty-bitty niche network.
By the way, BW&O for the week of 9/20/04 lists a showing of Number Please! We're really delving into the vault if that's true:
http://adlink.com/resource_center/programm...04&endtime=1770 (http://\"http://adlink.com/resource_center/programming_grids/apg.cfm?netid=14909&begweek=09/20/2004&endtime=1770\")
EDIT: Adlink always puts "TBA" at the end of their schedules. Doesn't mean anything except they don't have any more schedule to list. And three rare classics WILL rotate into BW&O for the week of 9/20, if Adlink is accurate. Wouldn't be amazed to see more down the line. GSN execs talked up the 50s and 60s shows in the Houston Chronicle story.
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NP has got to be the Pottery Corn Dishes ep. Great videotape quality but unbearable because of the incessant music.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 09:27 AM\'] One last thing to add to speculation (or not)....
The Adlink schedule has, from 5:30-8:30 AM (EST) on Sundays, "TBA". Another classics block? [/quote]
Not necessarily. If you look at TitanTV's grids, sometimes it'll say "Programming Unavailable" for a few hours (which eventually gets filled in). I would speculate that when all is said and done that it's most likely a continuation of paid programming for those hours.
Doug -- and the countdown to 600 continues
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 12:29 PM\'] [quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 09:27 AM\'] One last thing to add to speculation (or not)....
The Adlink schedule has, from 5:30-8:30 AM (EST) on Sundays, "TBA". Another classics block? [/quote]
Not necessarily. If you look at TitanTV's grids, sometimes it'll say "Programming Unavailable" for a few hours (which eventually gets filled in). I would speculate that when all is said and done that it's most likely a continuation of paid programming for those hours.
Doug -- and the countdown to 600 continues [/quote]
I would imagine that you're probably right, but it's nice to dream....:)
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I would speculate that when all is said and done that it's most likely a continuation of paid programming for those hours.
Ever since Cronin took over have they ever had slots where they rotate a lot of "vault programming?" I doubt they'd do an about face now....unfortunatly.
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[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 11:19 AM\'] By the way, BW&O for the week of 9/20/04 lists a showing of Number Please! [/quote]
Yet another reason for me to look forward to that week...
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 01:05 AM\'] All New 3's a Crowd, effective with this September schedule, will air more weekly than any show on the network besides Match Game and Street Smarts.
I just don't understand what on Earth could be gained from airing an original that produced it's last first run episodes four years ago and that got kicked off the network TWO years ago... [/quote]
They probably don't have to pay anything to air this show, since they produced it, so its the next best thing to paid programming.
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[quote name=\'bellbm\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 03:52 PM\'][quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 01:05 AM\'] All New 3's a Crowd, effective with this September schedule, will air more weekly than any show on the network besides Match Game and Street Smarts.
I just don't understand what on Earth could be gained from airing an original that produced it's last first run episodes four years ago and that got kicked off the network TWO years ago... [/quote]
They probably don't have to pay anything to air this show, since they produced it, so its the next best thing to paid programming.[/quote]
Bingo! After paying out a nickel an ep residuals to Thicke and Randy, it's all profit.
Not to mention that there are 130 episodes, so they can play it out for 26 weeks before repeating in the time slot. Probably the one thing that keeps us from seeing reruns of "Throut and Neck" and "Burt Luddin."
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 02:05 PM\'] Probably the one thing that keeps us from seeing reruns of "Throut and Neck" and "Burt Luddin." [/quote]
If she knows what's good for her career, Rebecca Grant might be the other thing keeping us from seeing repeats of "Throut and Neck". :)
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My two cents…
If any of those Match Game episodes they are going to have on the new schedule are going to be the ones that Ross Schafer hosted on the ABC-TV network during 1990, these will be totally "new to me" episodes because "MG90" as we call it never aired in the Cincinnati area. (WKRC-TV, the ABC affiliate in Cincinnati at that time, knocked it off for their daily midday newscasts.)
As for Weakest Link, thanks to GSN, it is great to be seeing the Anne Robinson/U.S.-produced episodes the way they were meant to be seen -- in their full 60-minute length! (You may recall that toward the end of WL's original run on NBC, that network would slot the show right after their late Sunday afternoon NBA basketball game telecasts, but the games would invaribly run past WL's 8 P.M. Eastern starting time, with the result that the program for that week would get a zero audience rating for its first 20-25 minutes while NBC was carrying the last part of the basketball game.)
I'm sure it's now doing considerably better on GSN in that regard!
Michael Brandenburg
(But if GSN then makes the mistake later on of slotting Weakest Link after some sports-related program of theirs like Extreme Dodgeball…)
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[quote name=\'Michael Brandenburg\' date=\'Aug 21 2004, 12:56 PM\'] If any of those Match Game episodes they are going to have on the new schedule are going to be the ones that Ross Schafer hosted on the ABC-TV network during 1990, these will be totally "new to me" episodes because "MG90" as we call it never aired in the Cincinnati area. (WKRC-TV, the ABC affiliate in Cincinnati at that time, knocked it off for their daily midday newscasts.)
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That's one reason I like the 1990 episodes as well, as they are "new to me".
WNEP-16 in Scranton aired noon news, so no MG.
WPVI-6 in Philly aired noon news, so no MG.
WTXF-29 aired the previous ABC noon occupant ("Perfect Strangers" reruns) on a one-day delay at 10am, I thought they would have aired MG- but no go. "What's Happening!" reruns took the 10am slot.
WHTM-27 in Harrisburg did air it until September, when they bumped it to air "Trump Card", and when TC flopped, replaced it with reruns of "People's Court" until June, when they aired the last 3 or 4 weeks of MG.
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The ABC affiliates in Western New York State didn't air the '90s "Match Game" either, so they were "new to me" when GSN first went on the air in 1994. I've seen most of them several times since then, but it's still refreshing to see this version. I thought it was a decent remake....unlike the '98 version!