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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: aaron sica on November 24, 2020, 01:38:43 PM
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....Peyton Manning to host "College Bowl" reboot on NBC.
https://deadline.com/2020/11/college-bowl-peyton-manning-nbc-1234621247/
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Of all the game shows you could think of that might get a reboot this year, the old "GE College Bowl" would likely be quite the long shot. However, this is not a normal year.
https://deadline.com/2020/11/college-bowl-peyton-manning-nbc-1234621247/
Football great and pizza/insurance salesman Peyton Manning is your host, with he, Eli Manning and the third Manning brother serving as executive producers. Other EPs are Richard Reid (whose father created College Bowl way back when) and Mark Itkin.
I'll be honest, this reboot is completely out of left field. Way out of left field. I could actually see Peyton Manning as a game show host (he has a likability to make it as a TV personality), but I fear this is the wrong show.
JD
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Of all the game shows you could think of that might get a reboot this year, the old "GE College Bowl" would likely be quite the long shot. However, this is not a normal year.
https://deadline.com/2020/11/college-bowl-peyton-manning-nbc-1234621247/
Football great and pizza/insurance salesman Peyton Manning is your host, with he, Eli Manning and the third Manning brother serving as executive producers. Other EPs are Richard Reid (whose father created College Bowl way back when) and Mark Itkin.
I'll be honest, this reboot is completely out of left field. Way out of left field. I could actually see Peyton Manning as a game show host (he has a likability to make it as a TV personality), but I fear this is the wrong show.
JD
I dunno, I think it could work. Peyton has always seemed to me to be more intelligent than he's gotten credit for, so maybe this is a chance to prove that.
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Here's the press release- 12 teams in the tournament over 10 eps...
https://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/2020/11/24/peyton-manning-set-to-quarterback-new-nbc-battle-of-the-brains-series-college-bowl/
(and I'll give Peyton a chance- his Peyton's Places on ESPN+ is pretty good, and he did graduate with a 3.6 GPA; plus College Bowl is a bit of a different beast than other quiz shows)
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I'll concede that quiz shows are not my preferred genre of show (outside of maybe Blockbusters and the occasional Jeopardy!), but I have liked the few episodes of College Bowl I've seen on YouTube specifically because I do love collegiate competition (my bias from working in collegiate student affairs). The idea of having Peyton Manning host is actually pretty good, I think, because I think it may encourage people to watch, so I'm eager to see this.
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Football great and pizza/insurance salesman Peyton Manning is your host, with he, Eli Manning and the third Manning brother serving as executive producers. Other EPs are Richard Reid (whose father created College Bowl way back when) and Mark Itkin.
Richard gets an "In Association With" credit on BBC's University Challenge.
According to the press release, the students themselves receive the scholarships. In the original series, the schools did, and could give them to whomever they wanted.
I also wonder if they'll stick to the old restrictions concerning how many graduate students per team are allowed. On UC, they have had schools that consist entirely of graduate students.
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Here's the press release- 12 teams in the tournament over 10 eps...
Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the
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If it's like the old college bowl, it will be the announcer saying Omaha. :)
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One thing of note is that the third Manning brother (Cooper) will serve as a "sideline reporter" for the reboot. Presumably he will interview the players before, during and after games.
To say this is a surprise reboot could be the understatement of the year. College Bowl has been pretty much alive in name only in the U.S. for more than a decade (the intercollegiate contests stopped in 2008, and it hasn't aired on TV since the 1987 National Tournament, with Dick Cavett hosting for Disney). As we talked about back when College Bowl ended its campus program, the modern quiz bowl player moved on from the "game show style" of CBI (with shorter, easier questions, variable value bonuses, etc.) to the more academic, challenging fare of NAQT and ACF. Today's current college and high school players -- those who play regularly in NAQT, ACF and various invitational tourneys -- will likely reject this reboot.
But there is an audience who know little if anything about "elite" quiz bowl but who enjoy J!, The Chase, and similar hard quizzes. They have faint knowledge of College Bowl, both the TV show and campus program, if they have any knowledge of it all. NBC should definitely promote the fact that the Manning family will be faces of this revival, but there should also be a strong emphasis of College Bowl 2020 essentially being "J! for teams."
I am curious how this show will recruit teams to represent the 14 colleges and universities. Most colleges and universities are currently virtual only due to COVID and, even if they were on campus, the campus program of in-school auditions and regional tournaments to determine the national field no longer exist. Richard Reid (who owns the College Bowl Company) knows that if the show reaches out to schools with elite quiz bowl teams, the players will likely turn down the opportunity flat. You will probably have to go a different direction to find students from such schools,
And while we can joke about a team from Omaha being in the field, I've seen a few old quiz bowl friends of mine make a prediction on at least one team in the tournament. College Bowl still runs a national tournament for HBCUs called the Honda Campus All-Star Challenge (believe it aired at least once in the 90s on BET with singer Clint Holmes as moderator). During the "campus program" era, College Bowl reportedly discouraged HBCU squads from competing in quiz bowl tournaments and events that were outside the Honda Campus element (No College Bowl regionals/nationals, no open invitationals, etc.). Times have changed, and hopefully attitudes have as well. It would not surprise me to see at least one team in this revival being from an HBCU.
JD
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I am curious how this show will recruit teams to represent the 14 colleges and universities. Most colleges and universities are currently virtual only due to COVID and, even if they were on campus, the campus program of in-school auditions and regional tournaments to determine the national field no longer exist. Richard Reid (who owns the College Bowl Company) knows that if the show reaches out to schools with elite quiz bowl teams, the players will likely turn down the opportunity flat. You will probably have to go a different direction to find students from such schools,
I wonder if, since the scholarships will go to individual students, they may cast each person individually, rather than work directly with a college or existing team. Then, once they have their desired number from a school, they can just create the team that way. This also gives them more control (which, as we know, primetime game shows *love*) and helps ensure the diversity you’re mentioning (which pre-existing teams may not have).
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If the prize is tempting enough, I could see some existing teams jumping at this for the money.
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Bring Matt Ottinger on as a consulting producer, or I send a strongly-worded letter.
Strongly. Worded.
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One thing of note is that the third Manning brother (Cooper) will serve as a "sideline reporter" for the reboot. Presumably he will interview the players before, during and after games.
To say this is a surprise reboot could be the understatement of the year. College Bowl has been pretty much alive in name only in the U.S. for more than a decade (the intercollegiate contests stopped in 2008, and it hasn't aired on TV since the 1987 National Tournament, with Dick Cavett hosting for Disney). As we talked about back when College Bowl ended its campus program, the modern quiz bowl player moved on from the "game show style" of CBI (with shorter, easier questions, variable value bonuses, etc.) to the more academic, challenging fare of NAQT and ACF. Today's current college and high school players -- those who play regularly in NAQT, ACF and various invitational tourneys -- will likely reject this reboot.
But there is an audience who know little if anything about "elite" quiz bowl but who enjoy J!, The Chase, and similar hard quizzes. They have faint knowledge of College Bowl, both the TV show and campus program, if they have any knowledge of it all. NBC should definitely promote the fact that the Manning family will be faces of this revival, but there should also be a strong emphasis of College Bowl 2020 essentially being "J! for teams."
I am curious how this show will recruit teams to represent the 14 colleges and universities. Most colleges and universities are currently virtual only due to COVID and, even if they were on campus, the campus program of in-school auditions and regional tournaments to determine the national field no longer exist. Richard Reid (who owns the College Bowl Company) knows that if the show reaches out to schools with elite quiz bowl teams, the players will likely turn down the opportunity flat. You will probably have to go a different direction to find students from such schools,
And while we can joke about a team from Omaha being in the field, I've seen a few old quiz bowl friends of mine make a prediction on at least one team in the tournament. College Bowl still runs a national tournament for HBCUs called the Honda Campus All-Star Challenge (believe it aired at least once in the 90s on BET with singer Clint Holmes as moderator). During the "campus program" era, College Bowl reportedly discouraged HBCU squads from competing in quiz bowl tournaments and events that were outside the Honda Campus element (No College Bowl regionals/nationals, no open invitationals, etc.). Times have changed, and hopefully attitudes have as well. It would not surprise me to see at least one team in this revival being from an HBCU.
JD
I tend to agree about that-Peyton recently endowed several scholarships at HBCU's as well, so it makes sense:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29875854/peyton-manning-charity-foundation-endows-scholarships-six-historically-black-colleges-universities
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Here's the press release- 12 teams in the tournament over 10 eps...
Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the
If it weren't for Peyton's ties with Nationwide Insurance, it would have been fun to see Mutual of OMAHA sponsor the show.
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Hopefully, they do this right - which, in my opinion, consists mainly of:
1. Second Elizabeth (the "classic" theme song - and don't "jazz it up" like Disney did in 1987)
2. The opening and ending whistles (none of this gong or buzzer nonsense)
3. Most important - the clock! It doens't have to be analog, but the players (and the viewers) should have some idea how much time is left. I mainly bring this up because University Challenge makes it a point not to have a clock.
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What do all the Omaha references mean?
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What do all the Omaha references mean?
When Peyton Manning played football, and the team went up to the line to run their play, sometimes you'd hear him yell "Omaha!". After he retired, he explained that he would say that if they had to change the play.
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Here's the press release- 12 teams in the tournament over 10 eps...
Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the University of Omaha be one of the teams. Please let the
An "audible" bonus question. Its gotta happen.
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Odd host choice for a cerebral show with lots of reading and heightening drama. Jim Nantz would be the type, though not him specficially. Then again, this show wasn't on in prime time when it ran 60 years ago, and I find Manning's insurance commercials and choice of pizza place repugnant.
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Bumping this as we have a start date- June 22nd at 10PM...
https://tvline.com/2021/04/12/college-bowl-reboot-nbc-peyton-manning-premiere-date/
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Honestly, seeing how Aaron Rodgers has been doing on J! gives me more confidence in Peyton Manning's ability as host. I'll reserve judgment for when it actually airs.
ETA: Capital One is listed as the title sponsor, per the logo on Manning's lectern.
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Honestly, seeing how Aaron Rodgers has been doing on J! gives me more confidence in Peyton Manning's ability as host.
Patrick Wayne and Larry Blyden were both actors before hosting a game show.
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Honestly, seeing how Aaron Rodgers has been doing on J! gives me more confidence in Peyton Manning's ability as host.
Patrick Wayne and Larry Blyden were both actors before hosting a game show.
So was Richard Dawson.
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Here’s the official press release:
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2021/04/12/the-battle-of-brains-begins-when-nbcs-capital-one-college-bowl-premieres-tuesday-june-22-at-10-pm-et-pt-358311/20210412nbc02/
Pretty substantial stakes too- $1 million in total scholarships awarded..
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Pretty substantial stakes too- $1 million in total scholarships awarded..
How nice of them to pay one student's tuition for the semester...
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Honestly, seeing how Aaron Rodgers has been doing on J! gives me more confidence in Peyton Manning's ability as host.
Patrick Wayne and Larry Blyden were both actors before hosting a game show.
So we're just not gonna make an apples to apples comparison and bring up Joe Garagiola, huh? :)
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Honestly, seeing how Aaron Rodgers has been doing on J! gives me more confidence in Peyton Manning's ability as host.
Patrick Wayne and Larry Blyden were both actors before hosting a game show.
So we're just not gonna make an apples to apples comparison and bring up Joe Garagiola, huh? :)
I forget, did Frank Gifford ever host anything? I know he was a fairly frequent guest on Password.
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So we're just not gonna make an apples to apples comparison and bring up Joe Garagiola, huh? :)
Joe Garagiola didn't go straight from playing baseball to hosting game shows -- he'd spent well over a decade in baseball broadcasting and other sportscasting, plus a couple of years as a co-host on the "Today" show, before he got his first game show gig.
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NBC aired a brief clip during its Kentucky Derby coverage. That show is a lot of things...but it is not "College Bowl." It looks a lot like they took the revised rules for Honda Campus All-Star Challenge (which itself switched from traditional College Bowl rules to the format of a show called Africa Challenge); I saw three-player teams, and they were choosing categories from a board of four.
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NBC aired a brief clip during its Kentucky Derby coverage. That show is a lot of things...but it is not "College Bowl." It looks a lot like they took the revised rules for Honda Campus All-Star Challenge (which itself switched from traditional College Bowl rules to the format of a show called Africa Challenge); I saw three-player teams, and they were choosing categories from a board of four.
https://youtu.be/QtDGBM5bGho?t=36
(College Bowl clip at 0:36 mark)
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NBC aired a brief clip during its Kentucky Derby coverage. That show is a lot of things...but it is not "College Bowl."
Having participated in a run-through before air, I can tell you that while the show isn't College Bowl of old (or Reach For The Top, University Challenge, etc.), the format is solid and the people running the show care very much about the legacy of the name and the prestige it holds. Give it a chance.
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NBC aired a brief clip during its Kentucky Derby coverage. That show is a lot of things...but it is not "College Bowl." It looks a lot like they took the revised rules for Honda Campus All-Star Challenge (which itself switched from traditional College Bowl rules to the format of a show called Africa Challenge); I saw three-player teams, and they were choosing categories from a board of four.
In all fairness, when’s the last time “College Bowl” aired on TV? The format is more or less Q&A amongst college teams. The execution isn’t that important.
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That show is a lot of things...but it is not "College Bowl."
In all fairness, when’s the last time “College Bowl” aired on TV? The format is more or less Q&A amongst college teams. The execution isn’t that important.
Even if it isn’t College Bowl as you remember it, it’s still College Bowl adjacent, which means it’s an absolute miracle you’re getting new episodes in 2021, on network television no less. I don’t agree witrh every decision made, but they’ve got a great staff producing this and I think it could be a really fun watch if they can avoid some of the NBC primetime game show tropes.
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Yeah, honestly, my profession is higher education, my doctorate is in higher education, my passion is game shows — the actual format just isn’t so important. The respect for the name is, though.
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Hi...as a fellow Higher Ed Professional, former College Bowl Coach (during the days of ACUI), and Game show fan- I am more concerned in getting more students to participate in College Bowl and it’s visibility- and stuff like this will at the least help programs get more participation, TBH.
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With the Pat Finn pilot on YouTube, the notion that Joker's Wild would have fared better in 1990 with a different title came up again. I think, if a show is good enough, the link to the past simply gets viewers in the door, but the execution keeps them there; The New Price is Right, Match Game '73 and Password Plus say hello.
-Jason
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Does anybody care about a Q&A show titled Cash Machine? Or, more adjacently, Bracket Genius?
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NBC aired a brief clip during its Kentucky Derby coverage. That show is a lot of things...but it is not "College Bowl." It looks a lot like they took the revised rules for Honda Campus All-Star Challenge (which itself switched from traditional College Bowl rules to the format of a show called Africa Challenge); I saw three-player teams, and they were choosing categories from a board of four.
In all fairness, when’s the last time “College Bowl” aired on TV? The format is more or less Q&A amongst college teams. The execution isn’t that important.
Network TV? 1984, when NBC aired a one-off hour-long show of the national championship semi-finals and final.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7NMyEDAwY)
Before that, the first two national championship semi-finals and finals aired in syndication in 1978 and 1979 (the 1980 through 1982 tournaments were on CBS Radio); before that was the NBC weekly series that I think ended in 1970.
Cable TV? Disney Channel ran the complete (15-game) national championship tournament in 1987.
Oh, and I think there's a problem with the forum; a URL of a YouTube video forms a link properly in the preview, but inserts the video when saved.
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That was a rhetorical question.
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Do we need another hard quiz? Someone I know refers to them as "televised SAT tests".
If the material is hard enough to challenge a team of college students, they may end up leaving the home viewer behind. The home viewer can't really play along because the material is too difficult.
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https://www.nbc.com/capital-one-college-bowl - A month later, and the Capitol One College Bowl will premiere on NBC June 22nd.