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Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: DoorNumberFour on November 05, 2007, 10:04:02 AM
Not sure of their credibility when it comes to celebrity stuff, but this article contained an interview with the man himself.

Among the quotes:

"In the next 2 or 3 years, either they'll get rid of me or I'll tell them 'That's enough'. I'll be stepping down soon, not just so someone else can try it, but because I'm getting older."

"I'm at a point in my life where I'm not very driven. I've had a good run."
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Don Howard on November 05, 2007, 10:08:36 AM
Let the mounds of speculation begin.
Say! Ty Treadway might be looking for work by then.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: tpirfan28 on November 05, 2007, 10:17:17 AM
Chuck Woolery was on QVC this weekend...and looking good.  Maybe he can fill in for a while?

Or howsabout Rossi Moreale?
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Kniwt on November 05, 2007, 10:20:08 AM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'168781\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 07:17 AM\']
Or howsabout Rossi Moreale?
[/quote]

"Vowel: The New Wheel of Fortune," now clearing for fall 2010.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: whewfan on November 05, 2007, 10:34:16 AM
If Sony follows Merv's tradition of hiring unconventional, little known personalities, they're not going to look for someone that's the game show host type.

I'm sure we'd all love to see Chuck return to Wheel. Ty Treadway probably wouldn't be a bad choice. Bob Goen could also ge given another shot. I doubt Rolf would be interested. Rolf himself admitted he wasn't right for that show.

Here's more speculation, with the eventual departure of Pat Sajak, would this also mean that Vanna may also step down?
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Don Howard on November 05, 2007, 10:34:41 AM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'168781\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 10:17 AM\']
Or howsabout Rossi Moreale?
[/quote]
Oh, good call. And the taping schedules won't overlap because Temptation! will be recording their full season of shows during the weekend before WOF starts taping.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: wheelloon on November 05, 2007, 11:08:37 AM
[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'168783\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 10:34 AM\']
Here's more speculation, with the eventual departure of Pat Sajak, would this also mean that Vanna may also step down?
[/quote]
Pat has repeatedly stated over the years that he and Vanna plan to step down at the same time, and the two have discussed the matter before. Now whether this holds true or not is nothing but speculation, but I'd have to believe that it'd be the most appropriate thing for both to do, and what I'm willing to place bets on.

Also, Pat's contract is up for renewal in I believe 2009 (it's either that or 2010). Either Pat will call it quits then, or, as I've stated my prediction is numerous times over, he'll sign one more 5 year deal, then call it quits. If anybody has read his comments on his website and on Pat's place on "wof.com," you'll know he has no desire to be on the show for 10 more years, but he doesn't feel that he's entirely tired of the show just yet...

As for replacements, after saying repeatedly "THERE IS NONE" *much like a certain other Ezekial's fanbois," my personal favorites would lie with Bob Goen and possibly even the likes of Jeff Probst (and trust me, I know the chance of either happening is still a longshot).

As for getting an unknown, I wouldn't put it past the realm of possibility, but much like what we saw about 6 months ago, a high publicity job opening in the game show world can cause quite a stir amongst some big names in Hollywood, especially when a bunch of unknowns and other random names are thrown in the bucket...
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: clemon79 on November 05, 2007, 11:21:11 AM
Did I just see someone cite The Globe as a credible source?
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 05, 2007, 11:29:01 AM
[quote name=\'wheelloon\' post=\'168786\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 11:08 AM\']
Also, Pat's contract is up for renewal in I believe 2009 (it's either that or 2010). Either Pat will call it quits then, or, as I've stated my prediction is numerous times over, he'll sign one more 5 year deal, then call it quits. If anybody has read his comments on his website and on Pat's place on "wof.com," you'll know he has no desire to be on the show for 10 more years, but he doesn't feel that he's entirely tired of the show just yet...[/quote]
That's all very interesting, truly.  But the truth of the matter is I don't know what I'm having for lunch today.  Right now, Pat's just referring to some indefinite date in the future, made all the less definite by being years away.  Five years from now, he may decide that he can't think of anything he'd like better to do than keep hosting Wheel until he's 85.  

NBC and Jay Leno are right now seeing the folly of looking years into the future and picking an exact exit date.  Sajak's too smart for that, so he gave a vague, non-committal answer to a question he must have been expecting in the wake of Barker and TPIR.  I'm all for The Speculation Game, but I don't really think the Globe story is earth-shattering information.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Casey on November 05, 2007, 11:55:47 AM
Didn't we start hearing the same things about Bob after the 25th season of TPiR?   It took 10 years and how many lawsuits before he finally left ?
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Yogi007 on November 05, 2007, 12:11:08 PM
[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'168783\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 11:34 AM\']
I'm sure we'd all love to see Chuck return to Wheel. [/quote]
What?  Chuck was on Wheel?

/still in the ducking position from the last time I responded like this.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: jmangin on November 05, 2007, 01:43:14 PM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'168781\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 10:17 AM\']
Or howsabout Rossi Moreale?
[/quote]
You can win up to one hundred thousand wheeloffortunedollars in the bonus game!

//Where's Rolfe?
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Joe Mello on November 05, 2007, 01:44:42 PM
[quote name=\'Yogi007\' post=\'168794\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 12:11 PM\']/still in the ducking position from the last time I responded like this.[/quote]
Doesn't that hurt after a while?
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: dzinkin on November 05, 2007, 01:52:40 PM
[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'168806\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 02:43 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'168781\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 10:17 AM\']
Or howsabout Rossi Moreale?
[/quote]
You can win up to one hundred thousand wheeloffortunedollars in the bonus game!
[/quote]
And yet I'm having trouble picturing a "Lots of Love" space on the wheel...
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: clemon79 on November 05, 2007, 02:01:23 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'168809\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 10:52 AM\']
And yet I'm having trouble picturing a "Lots of Love" space on the wheel...[/quote]
"Today's Lots 'O' Love space is brought to you by your friends at Johnson & Johnson, makers of KY Jelly..."
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: byrd62 on November 05, 2007, 02:05:14 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'168809\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 10:52 AM\']
And yet I'm having trouble picturing a "Lots of Love" space on the wheel...[/quote]

...."Lots of Love" might work as a "reimagining" of either the "Bankrupt" or "Lose a Turn" space.  Probably "Bankrupt."
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: clanky06 on November 05, 2007, 02:51:40 PM
When I was a contestant on Scrabble one of Chuck Woolery's off-camera remarks was, "I got so I could hit the $2000 space every time." Pat has had many more years to practice! Notice that he never hits a Bankrupt or Lose a Turn any more so has to re-spin.

Remember when Chuck had the contestants turn their backs during a commercial break?
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: dzinkin on November 05, 2007, 02:55:06 PM
[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'168822\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:51 PM\']
Pat has had many more years to practice! Notice that he never hits a Bankrupt or Lose a Turn any more so has to re-spin.
[/quote]
You really think he doesn't?  He does -- those spins are edited out.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 05, 2007, 02:58:48 PM
[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'168822\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 02:51 PM\']
When I was a contestant on Scrabble one of Chuck Woolery's off-camera remarks was, "I got so I could hit the $2000 space every time." Pat has had many more years to practice! Notice that he never hits a Bankrupt or Lose a Turn any more so has to re-spin.[/quote]
Pat was quoted years ago saying that sure, he could hit the big-money space every time if he wanted to, but he  chooses to be as random as possible with his spin in an effort at fairness.  And anytime he hits Bankrupt or Lose a Turn is simply edited out.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: JerrysFeudinAgain on November 05, 2007, 03:04:36 PM
How about let Edd "Kookie" Byrnes host Wheel? I'm sure he has remember those vowels by now.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Fedya on November 05, 2007, 03:07:36 PM
How old is Rolf Benirschke? :-)
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 05, 2007, 03:23:56 PM
[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'168822\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 02:51 PM\']
When I was a contestant on Scrabble one of Chuck Woolery's off-camera remarks was, "I got so I could hit the $2000 space every time." Pat has had many more years to practice! Notice that he never hits a Bankrupt or Lose a Turn any more so has to re-spin.[/quote]
Pat was quoted years ago saying that sure, he could hit the big-money space every time if he wanted to, but he  chooses to be as random as possible with his spin in an effort at fairness.  And anytime he hits Bankrupt or Lose a Turn is simply edited out.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Don Howard on November 05, 2007, 03:28:35 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'168832\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:23 PM\']
[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'168822\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 02:51 PM\']
When I was a contestant on Scrabble one of Chuck Woolery's off-camera remarks was, "I got so I could hit the $2000 space every time." Pat has had many more years to practice! Notice that he never hits a Bankrupt or Lose a Turn any more so has to re-spin.[/quote]
Pat was quoted years ago saying that sure, he could hit the big-money space every time if he wanted to, but he  chooses to be as random as possible with his spin in an effort at fairness.  And anytime he hits Bankrupt or Lose a Turn is simply edited out.
[/quote]
Please repeat that.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: J.R. on November 05, 2007, 03:32:03 PM
You guys know who I'd want to take over. ;-)
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Chief-O on November 05, 2007, 03:34:51 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'168833\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 02:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'168832\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:23 PM\']
[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'168822\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 02:51 PM\']
When I was a contestant on Scrabble one of Chuck Woolery's off-camera remarks was, "I got so I could hit the $2000 space every time." Pat has had many more years to practice! Notice that he never hits a Bankrupt or Lose a Turn any more so has to re-spin.[/quote]
Pat was quoted years ago saying that sure, he could hit the big-money space every time if he wanted to, but he  chooses to be as random as possible with his spin in an effort at fairness.  And anytime he hits Bankrupt or Lose a Turn is simply edited out.
[/quote]
Please repeat that.
[/quote]

Well played.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Steve McClellan on November 05, 2007, 03:39:31 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'168828\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 12:00 PM and 12:23 PM\']
Pat was quoted years ago saying that sure, he could hit the big-money space every time if he wanted to, but he  chooses to be as random as possible with his spin in an effort at fairness.  And anytime he hits Bankrupt or Lose a Turn is simply edited out.[/quote]
As someone who was paying close attention to the show for the last couple years, I don't think it's quite that simple. While I'm sure that's the only thing he'd be allowed to say in public, I think the real situation is a good bit less savory. It looks to me like, when the $5000 space is within his range (which, in the seasons preceding this one, was starting between about the yellow arrow and 2-3 spaces past the blue one), he either tries to hit it or not based on how much he likes the contestant(s). The times he's trying to hit it, I'd say he was batting around .600. When he tried and missed, he'd say something consoling, like "just $1300 a piece, but there's a lot of letters up there, still money to be made."

On the other hand, if he's not in the mood, he seems very good at being 2-3 spaces off. In those cases, he seems to just mention the amount and the category quickly and immediately asks for a letter. Usually, this is all very subtle, but I remember one episode from last season where a contestant hit the Jackpot space (with about 1/4 of the puzzle revealed) and called a letter, and Pat said that he wasn't going to solve it then. Contestant: "Yes, I am," and rattled it off. Pat actually seemed irritated by this whole thing: there was a definite change in the tone of his voice. Later, the same contestant was in control at the bell, with easily enough of the puzzle showing to solve, and the $5000 in Pat's wheelhouse. Pat very obviously short-armed it. There's no way this was an accident like it slipping out of his hand. It was a distinctly different motion than usual.

While that one was the most obvious, it's far from the only one. Some shows, you can tell he's having fun. On mine, for instance, after I won round four, he was having fun with the fact that I was a baseball umpire, and had me give an out call. The next round, the bell goes off, with the $5000 sitting on my red arrow, clearly out of his range. He gives it the biggest spin I've ever seen from him. While he still came up two spaces short, I could tell he was trying. Then, there are times where Pat appears to be aiming for the Lose a Turn. When he hits it, the $5000's in his wheelhouse for the next spin, and he often gets it. All in all, his spins look far from random to me.

[legalese] Of course, this is all my opinion: my best guess based on what I've seen, and is in no way to be considered an accusation. [/legalese]

/Okay, so I have no life
//But I have no life and over $78,000
///So there
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 05, 2007, 03:42:41 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'168833\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:28 PM\']
Please repeat that.[/quote]
Sorry, my server at work suddely went squirrelly.  Thing is, I know I only hit the "add reply" button once.  this is why I tend to have more patience for the people this happens to now and then.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: SRIV94 on November 05, 2007, 03:49:09 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'168825\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 01:55 PM\']
[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'168822\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:51 PM\']
Pat has had many more years to practice! Notice that he never hits a Bankrupt or Lose a Turn any more so has to re-spin.
[/quote]
You really think he doesn't?  He does -- those spins are edited out.
[/quote]
I have to admit, I always got a chuckle when Sajak or Woolery would hit Bankrupt.  One of Jamie Locklin's posted WoF eps months ago had a sequence where Woolery hits Bankrupt, and the SFX guy (I'm assuming it was Geoff Cooper, but don't know for sure) hit the Bankrupt sounder and Woolery wasn't expecting it--his look was priceless.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Jimmy Owen on November 05, 2007, 04:22:21 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'168837\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'168833\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:28 PM\']
Please repeat that.[/quote]
Sorry, my server at work suddely went squirrelly.  Thing is, I know I only hit the "add reply" button once.  this is why I tend to have more patience for the people this happens to now and then.
[/quote]

See, if Pat Sajak posted here, the first post would have been edited out.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: clemon79 on November 05, 2007, 04:36:02 PM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' post=\'168836\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 12:39 PM\']
There's no way this was an accident like it slipping out of his hand. It was a distinctly different motion than usual.[/quote]
"Watch this tape of a spin. His arm moves back...and to the left. Back...and to the left."
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: DrBear on November 05, 2007, 05:03:10 PM
*sigh* and here I thought it was the BOSTON Globe...
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: wheelloon on November 05, 2007, 06:11:48 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'168788\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 11:29 AM\']
NBC and Jay Leno are right now seeing the folly of looking years into the future and picking an exact exit date.  Sajak's too smart for that, so he gave a vague, non-committal answer to a question he must have been expecting in the wake of Barker and TPIR.  I'm all for The Speculation Game, but I don't really think the Globe story is earth-shattering information.
[/quote]

And I will also agree with you 100%, it is not. Pat's never been the type to release his feelings about the game or his job to the public, or one to promote that he's got a goal in mine. Sony, on the other hand, will work him and Vanna as much as they can (heh) to get them to keep signing each and ever time a renewal comes around, which is why my prediction is he'll sign one more Sony contract, before saying that's enough.

And yes, this is the Globe. Taken with a grain of salt, you still are giving it too much credit. I'm sticking with the info I got from Pat's sites, directly...
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on November 05, 2007, 08:38:24 PM
I can't speak for Pat spinning differently based on the contestants, but almost every final spin of his I can recall from the past few years was two or three wedges shy of a complete revolution. The $5000 wedge always starts round 4 two or three wedges past the red pointer, too . . .
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: clanky06 on November 06, 2007, 01:56:37 AM
Pat at one time had a website where he would answer e-mails. One time a contestant answered a puzzle as "Hilary Shwank" and was ruled to be wrong. Now the lady was from Texas and a Texas accent can "sh" an "s" sound. I thought the call was unfair. So I asked Pat what would he do if a black contestant solved a puzzle as, "Aks me no questions..." He answered, "You have just brought up my worst nightmare. Thanks!"
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: sshuffield70 on November 07, 2007, 09:24:04 AM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'168839\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:49 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'168825\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 01:55 PM\']
[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'168822\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:51 PM\']
Pat has had many more years to practice! Notice that he never hits a Bankrupt or Lose a Turn any more so has to re-spin.
[/quote]
You really think he doesn't?  He does -- those spins are edited out.
[/quote]
I have to admit, I always got a chuckle when Sajak or Woolery would hit Bankrupt.  One of Jamie Locklin's posted WoF eps months ago had a sequence where Woolery hits Bankrupt, and the SFX guy (I'm assuming it was Geoff Cooper, but don't know for sure) hit the Bankrupt sounder and Woolery wasn't expecting it--his look was priceless.
[/quote]

It used to be when you'd see that Pat might say "Vowels are worth nothing........<bankrupt> Consonants aren't worth anything either".  And of course, spin again.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: TimK2003 on November 09, 2007, 02:41:27 PM
Forget the Globe story, that's old news.

The latest on Sajak, according to the current cover story in the National Examiner is that Pat & Vanna are in a "secret relationship".


I just happened to see the tabloid headline while at the gas station today.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on November 09, 2007, 03:35:57 PM
If this story holds any water in the next five years, I fully endorse Ty Treadway to take Sajak's spot. He works well for this show as he does for Crosswords. Plus, he grows on me.

The Inquisitive One

/don't go there.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: MikeK on November 09, 2007, 05:24:10 PM
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' post=\'169223\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 03:35 PM\']I fully endorse Ty Treadway to take Sajak's spot. He works well for this show as he does for Crosswords. Plus, he grows on me.[/quote]
...like a tumor?

Quote
/don't go there.
I think I did.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on November 09, 2007, 05:38:22 PM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'169217\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 01:41 PM\']
Forget the Globe story, that's old news.

The latest on Sajak, according to the current cover story in the National Examiner is that Pat & Vanna are in a "secret relationship".
[/quote]

"Pat, I'd like to buy an 'O'."

/Wait, not that kind of relationship?
//_H   WELL, I guess.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on November 09, 2007, 05:40:10 PM
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'169228\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 06:24 PM\']
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' post=\'169223\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 03:35 PM\']I fully endorse Ty Treadway to take Sajak's spot. He works well for this show as he does for Crosswords. Plus, he grows on me.[/quote]
...like a tumor?

Quote
/don't go there.
I think I did.
[/quote]

You did not go the direction I thought some would go, so you get a pass. :)

In all seriousness (and because I honestly don't know), what is wrong with Ty? I think he's doing a decent job.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: tvwxman on November 09, 2007, 05:49:48 PM
Nothing. I think the boys in Product Development at Disneytronics did a bang up job creating a robot game show host.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on November 09, 2007, 07:11:02 PM
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' post=\'169230\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 05:40 PM\']In all seriousness (and because I honestly don't know), what is wrong with Ty? I think he's doing a decent job.[/quote]
It's hard to tell how much is Ty's fault and how much is the producer's fault, but he does come off as a robot. He reads all of the prepackaged lines exactly the same way, every time. (Can anyone who's seen more than 2 or 3 episodes NOT do a perfect impression of "Say hello to our spoilers!"?)

Also, the way he reads the occasional bit of extra info about a clue seriously highlights how all of it, from the obscure to the obvious, is fed to him. "That's from the 1902 musical Hummin' and Singin'" sounds exactly like "Water, which is a liquid that humans drink to survive". They could put "I'm a pretty pony, and this is my pretty pony dance" up on the screen, and he'd read it without a slip of his grin.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: MikeK on November 09, 2007, 08:08:52 PM
I agree with what Connecti-Matt and Robert said.  If Ty could ad-lib just a bit and occasionally show some personality, he'd be a respectable emcee.  Instead, I compare Ty to Ron Burgundy, as both read what's given to them quite well.

/Dammit.  Who typed a question mark on the TelePrompTer?
//Go f*** yourself, San Diego.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: clanky06 on November 10, 2007, 04:46:13 PM
You all gotta remember that they have to complete a standard 15X15 crossword puzzle in 30 minutes, less the usual "overhead." What is it 18 minutes of actual game time? That's why the opening "let's get to know our contestants" banter lasts 5 to 10 seconds. When warranted, Ty does ad lib. The clue was "Mayberry's town drunk" O _ _ _, and the contestant said OPIE, and Ty broke out into a grin and put his left hand on top of an imaginary little boy's head and said "Opie's little!" OTIS was the correct answer. Hey, a freshman GS host gotta do what he's told to do. After a bit more experience, I'm sure he'll show more individualism.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on November 10, 2007, 08:19:26 PM
[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'169295\' date=\'Nov 10 2007, 04:46 PM\']You all gotta remember that they have to complete a standard 15X15 crossword puzzle in 30 minutes, less the usual "overhead."[/quote]
Well, no, they don't. I admit that I still don't have any hard proof of it, but I can't see any way that they aren't having to fill in extra letters at least some of the time--like when they've got a lot of back-and-forth spoiling eating up time, or a bunch of contestants that think "ISLAND" has 9 letters.

Quote
When warranted, Ty does ad lib.
Quote
Hey, a freshman GS host gotta do what he's told to do.
I did mention that a lot of it could be the producer's fault. And yes, Ty does occasionally have a clever line. (It's often not as funny because he's still stuck in grinning-I-am-a-host mode, but that's much more subjective.)

Quote
After a bit more experience, I'm sure he'll show more individualism.
Um . . . the man has been on television for years. I'd like to think that he will, but I look at Richard Karn on Feud. He improved a bit, just the amount you would expect for when he got over the newness of the job, then stopped--and was still not very good.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: calliaume on November 11, 2007, 10:38:14 AM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'169217\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 02:41 PM\']
The latest on Sajak, according to the current cover story in the National Examiner is that Pat & Vanna are in a "secret relationship".
[/quote]
I saw this one too.  Had to thumb through the paper -- whatever they did that was more than friends was also more than 20 years ago.  The article's confusingly written (shocked!  I am shocked).
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: ChrisLambert! on November 11, 2007, 11:25:54 AM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'169238\' date=\'Nov 9 2007, 08:11 PM\']
It's hard to tell how much is Ty's fault and how much is the producer's fault, but he does come off as a robot.
[/quote]

Anybody who's seen him on Soap Talk or American Idol Extra knows much of it is on him. (ST was scripted down to the hosts' simulated breathing, of course, but JD Roberto actually was a massive increase in personality when he took over hosting AIE.)

/Yes, I've watched some crap TV in my day
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Footix on November 11, 2007, 01:20:02 PM
[quote name=\'clanky06\' post=\'169295\' date=\'Nov 10 2007, 04:46 PM\']
When warranted, Ty does ad lib. The clue was "Mayberry's town drunk" O _ _ _, and the contestant said OPIE, and Ty broke out into a grin and put his left hand on top of an imaginary little boy's head and said "Opie's little!" OTIS was the correct answer.
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I think the better example was when a contestant solved "Something bad to have thrown at you" _ O _ _ as POOP, and Ty said something like "not what we were looking for, but that's also bad to have thrown at you!" I do think he would make a fine choice as the new host of WoF when Pat packs it in.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: clemon79 on November 11, 2007, 01:37:38 PM
[quote name=\'Footix\' post=\'169328\' date=\'Nov 11 2007, 10:20 AM\']
I do think he would make a fine choice as the new host of WoF when Pat packs it in.
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I agree with both of you, mainly because I'm fairly certain it would get the show cancelled.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: clanky06 on November 12, 2007, 12:30:52 AM
Incidentally, you wouldn't want the BOOK thrown at you.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: bellbm on November 12, 2007, 03:33:27 PM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' post=\'168836\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 03:39 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'168828\' date=\'Nov 5 2007, 12:00 PM and 12:23 PM\']
Pat was quoted years ago saying that sure, he could hit the big-money space every time if he wanted to, but he  chooses to be as random as possible with his spin in an effort at fairness.  And anytime he hits Bankrupt or Lose a Turn is simply edited out.[/quote]
As someone who was paying close attention to the show for the last couple years, I don't think it's quite that simple. While I'm sure that's the only thing he'd be allowed to say in public, I think the real situation is a good bit less savory. It looks to me like, when the $5000 space is within his range (which, in the seasons preceding this one, was starting between about the yellow arrow and 2-3 spaces past the blue one), he either tries to hit it or not based on how much he likes the contestant(s). The times he's trying to hit it, I'd say he was batting around .600. When he tried and missed, he'd say something consoling, like "just $1300 a piece, but there's a lot of letters up there, still money to be made."

On the other hand, if he's not in the mood, he seems very good at being 2-3 spaces off. In those cases, he seems to just mention the amount and the category quickly and immediately asks for a letter. Usually, this is all very subtle, but I remember one episode from last season where a contestant hit the Jackpot space (with about 1/4 of the puzzle revealed) and called a letter, and Pat said that he wasn't going to solve it then. Contestant: "Yes, I am," and rattled it off. Pat actually seemed irritated by this whole thing: there was a definite change in the tone of his voice. Later, the same contestant was in control at the bell, with easily enough of the puzzle showing to solve, and the $5000 in Pat's wheelhouse. Pat very obviously short-armed it. There's no way this was an accident like it slipping out of his hand. It was a distinctly different motion than usual.

While that one was the most obvious, it's far from the only one. Some shows, you can tell he's having fun. On mine, for instance, after I won round four, he was having fun with the fact that I was a baseball umpire, and had me give an out call. The next round, the bell goes off, with the $5000 sitting on my red arrow, clearly out of his range. He gives it the biggest spin I've ever seen from him. While he still came up two spaces short, I could tell he was trying. Then, there are times where Pat appears to be aiming for the Lose a Turn. When he hits it, the $5000's in his wheelhouse for the next spin, and he often gets it. All in all, his spins look far from random to me.

[legalese] Of course, this is all my opinion: my best guess based on what I've seen, and is in no way to be considered an accusation. [/legalese]

/Okay, so I have no life
//But I have no life and over $78,000
///So there
[/quote]

When I was on the show a few years ago, we were told during the commerical break, before coming back for the 4th round, that we would go straight to the speed up round (which I don't understand why Pat can't just say that, instead of the whole "Lisa, you will spin, [Bell rings] , oh actually, I'll spin).  Anyway, Pat asked the contestant who was in first place, with about $20,000 (she won the mystery round, when it was still a car), if she wanted him to hit the $5,000, she said yes, in fact we all said yes.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: Neumms on November 12, 2007, 03:44:59 PM
[quote name=\'bellbm\' post=\'169370\' date=\'Nov 12 2007, 03:33 PM\']
Anyway, Pat asked the contestant who was in first place, with about $20,000 (she won the mystery round, when it was still a car), if she wanted him to hit the $5,000, she said yes, in fact we all said yes.
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So did he? Did he hit it? Come on, man! Spill the beans!
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: bellbm on November 12, 2007, 11:08:13 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'169371\' date=\'Nov 12 2007, 03:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'bellbm\' post=\'169370\' date=\'Nov 12 2007, 03:33 PM\']
Anyway, Pat asked the contestant who was in first place, with about $20,000 (she won the mystery round, when it was still a car), if she wanted him to hit the $5,000, she said yes, in fact we all said yes.
[/quote]

So did he? Did he hit it? Come on, man! Spill the beans!
[/quote]


Sorry, yes, he did hit it.

I was in the middle podium, the round started with the player in the 1st podium (red), and the category was person

_ _ _ R    
L _ _ _ L
_ _ _ R _ _ _ _ S T

The puzzle was solved (not by me) at the point above

Can anyone solve it?
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: MikeK on November 12, 2007, 11:14:42 PM
[quote name=\'bellbm\' post=\'169381\' date=\'Nov 12 2007, 11:08 PM\']_ _ _ R    
L _ _ _ L
_ _ _ R _ _ _ _ S T

The puzzle was solved (not by me) at the point above

Can anyone solve it?[/quote]
Highlight the section below for my guess.

Quote
[color=\"#FFFFFF\"]YOUR LOCAL PHARMACIST[/color]?
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: bellbm on November 13, 2007, 12:08:48 AM
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'169382\' date=\'Nov 12 2007, 11:14 PM\']
[quote name=\'bellbm\' post=\'169381\' date=\'Nov 12 2007, 11:08 PM\']_ _ _ R    
L _ _ _ L
_ _ _ R _ _ _ _ S T

The puzzle was solved (not by me) at the point above

Can anyone solve it?[/quote]
Highlight the section below for my guess.

Quote
[color=\"#FFFFFF\"]YOUR LOCAL PHARMACIST[/color]?
[/quote]

You got it!

$18,000!  But, not enough to be the big winner of the day.
Title: Globe: Sajak quitting Wheel "in 2 or 3 years"
Post by: MikeK on November 13, 2007, 06:06:57 AM
[quote name=\'bellbm\' post=\'169384\' date=\'Nov 13 2007, 12:08 AM\']You got it!

$18,000!  But, not enough to be the big winner of the day.[/quote]
So...when should I expect my money?  Just make it out to "Cash".