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Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: aaron sica on May 19, 2005, 09:07:30 PM
STATION KEY:
Philly: 3-KYW (NBC), 6-WPVI (ABC), 10-WCAU (CBS), 17-WPHL (Ind), 29-WTAF (Ind.), 48-WKBS (INd).
NYC: 2-WCBS (CBS), 4-WNBC (NBC), 5-WNEW (Ind.), 7-WABC (ABC), 9-WOR (Ind.), 11-WPIX (Ind.)
Wildwood, NJ: 40-WAAT (NBC); Atlantic City, NJ: 53-WWAC (Ind.), Vineland, NJ: 65-WRBV (Ind.)

9:30 (2) Joker's Wild-Game
10:30 (40, 4) Wheel of Fortune-Game
11AM (10, 2) Price is Right-Game
(6) Match Game
(65) Cross Wits-Game
(9) Tic Tac Dough-Game
11:30 (6) Family Feud-Game
(65) Super Pay Cards-Game
(9) Celebrity Bullseye-Game
NOON (10) Tattletales-Game
Eva Gabor, Martin Mull, P.R. Paul.
(2) Tattletales-Game
Telma Hopkins, Pat Harrington.
(7) Family Feud-Game
2 PM (9) Pitfall-Game
2:30 (9) Match Game
7 PM (6) Tic Tac Dough-Game
7:30 (10, 4) Family Feud-Game
4:30 (9) Face The Music-Game
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: zachhoran on May 19, 2005, 09:45:47 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'May 19 2005, 08:07 PM\']STATION KEY:
65-WRBV (Ind.)


(65) Cross Wits-Game
(65) Super Pay Cards-Game
4:30 (9) Face The Music-Game
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Whatever happened to Channel 65? Is it still a home shopping channel as it was in the early 90s. I did not they aired Cross-Wits reruns or Super Pay Cards. I know WWAC aired SPC in 1981-82. I didn't know FtM reruns aired on WOR in 1982, either?
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: aaron sica on May 19, 2005, 09:57:02 PM
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Whatever happened to Channel 65? Is it still a home shopping channel as it was in the early 90s. I did not they aired Cross-Wits reruns or Super Pay Cards. I know WWAC aired SPC in 1981-82. I didn't know FtM reruns aired on WOR in 1982, either?
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As per the TV Guide Channel chart for the Philly edition, I do believe it's now a Univision station.

Question for fellow collectors, as my curiosity is raised now:

The listings for this came from a recent bunch of TVG's I won on Ebay. The 1981 issues were the "Philadelphia Metro Edition", while the ones from February 1982 on were the "Philadelphia Edition", the difference being that the Metro only included Philly stations, not any NYC stations.

I have a 1979 issue somewhere that looks like what became the Philly edition, but it was called the "Philadelphia-New Jersey Edition" or something like that. Was the Philly metro absorbed into the P-NJ to make a regular Philly edition?

ObGameShows: One of the 1982 issues I got included a full-page ad for $25K Pyramid and Child's Play
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: Blanquepage on May 19, 2005, 09:58:48 PM
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(65) Cross Wits-Game

Gee, Cross-Wits reruns in 1982? Those tapes have to be somewhere.

--Jamie
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: That Don Guy on May 19, 2005, 10:22:13 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'May 19 2005, 08:57 PM\']As per the TV Guide Channel chart for the Philly edition, I do believe it's now a Univision station.
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Univision, eh?  How about episodes of Baje una Estrella (a remake of the late-1960s Reach for the Stars (not to be confused with Shoot for the Stars)) and ¡Basta! (a Pyramid clone where they start with a game of something that looks like Scattergories, and the winners circle is, literally, a circle (with a strange rule: an incorrect clue ends the round immediately))?

-- Don
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: trainman on May 20, 2005, 12:25:03 AM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'May 19 2005, 06:57 PM\']The listings for this came from a recent bunch of TVG's I won on Ebay. The 1981 issues were the "Philadelphia Metro Edition", while the ones from February 1982 on were the "Philadelphia Edition", the difference being that the Metro only included Philly stations, not any NYC stations.

I have a 1979 issue somewhere that looks like what became the Philly edition, but it was called the "Philadelphia-New Jersey Edition" or something like that. Was the Philly metro absorbed into the P-NJ to make a regular Philly edition?
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Sounds like a good guess to me.  I think it was a little later in 1982 that my hometown Tampa Bay edition had the Fort Myers-area channels added to it and was renamed the Tampa-Sarasota edition, so TV Guide was doing a bit of edition shuffling that year.
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: Ian Wallis on May 20, 2005, 09:04:24 AM
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9:30 (2) Joker's Wild-Game
10:30 (40, 4) Wheel of Fortune-Game
11AM (10, 2) Price is Right-Game


This is obviously one of those editions that puts the black "home market" bullets first, followed by the white "out of town" bullets.  There are a few editions that have done this - I think Pittsburgh is another one.  I believe it was around the early '80s when this started.  I personally prefer the editions where the channels are listed in order via channel number ... but that's just me!

When you look at the game shows listed, this illustrates the drop in games that occured in the early '80s.  It wasn't until 1983 - when NBC premiered 3 shows - that the numbers started increasing again.  Oh...for the good old days!
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: aaron sica on May 20, 2005, 09:24:02 AM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'May 20 2005, 09:04 AM\']When you look at the game shows listed, this illustrates the drop in games that occured in the early '80s.  It wasn't until 1983 - when NBC premiered 3 shows - that the numbers started increasing again.  Oh...for the good old days!
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Oh yeah, you know, you're right! Since only game shows are listed, let me tell our "younger viewers" what the other daytime slots consisted of on NBC..

10am: Diff'rent Strokes reruns
11am: Texas (hour-long soap)
noon: Doctors (soap)
12:30: Search for Tomorrow
1pm: Days of Our Lives
2pm: Another World
3pm: CHiPs reruns

Texas and Doctors BOTH expired at the end of the year, making room for an hour and a half of games, and of course, CHiPs was replaced by "Fantasy" that September.
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: calliaume on May 20, 2005, 09:58:56 AM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'May 20 2005, 08:24 AM\']Oh yeah, you know, you're right! Since only game shows are listed, let me tell our "younger viewers" what the other daytime slots consisted of on NBC..

10am: Diff'rent Strokes reruns
11am: Texas (hour-long soap)
noon: Doctors (soap)
12:30: Search for Tomorrow
1pm: Days of Our Lives
2pm: Another World
3pm: CHiPs reruns

Texas and Doctors BOTH expired at the end of the year, making room for an hour and a half of games, and of course, CHiPs was replaced by "Fantasy" that September.
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My site (http://\"http://www.curtalliaume.com/gameshow.html\") has links to all three networks' daytime programming over the years.

The summer of 1982 was pretty dire for game shows - just one on each of the networks (Family Feud, Wheel of Fortune, The Price Is Right).  CBS actually led the renaissance in September 1982, cancelling reruns of Alice and One Day at a Time in favor of The $25,000 Pyramid and Child's Play.
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: zachhoran on May 20, 2005, 10:01:01 AM
[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'May 20 2005, 08:58 AM\']

My site (http://\"http://www.curtalliaume.com/gameshow.html\") has links to all three networks' daytime programming over the years.

The summer of 1982 was pretty dire for game shows - just one on each of the networks (Family Feud, Wheel of Fortune, The Price Is Right).  CBS actually led the renaissance in September 1982, cancelling reruns of Alice and One Day at a Time in favor of The $25,000 Pyramid and Child's Play.
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They led it eight months earlier on 1/18/82 when Up to the Minute was replaced with the revamped Tattletales.
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: BrandonFG on May 20, 2005, 10:30:34 AM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'May 20 2005, 09:01 AM\'][quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'May 20 2005, 08:58 AM\']

My site (http://\"http://www.curtalliaume.com/gameshow.html\") has links to all three networks' daytime programming over the years.

The summer of 1982 was pretty dire for game shows - just one on each of the networks (Family Feud, Wheel of Fortune, The Price Is Right).  CBS actually led the renaissance in September 1982, cancelling reruns of Alice and One Day at a Time in favor of The $25,000 Pyramid and Child's Play.
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They led it eight months earlier on 1/18/82 when Up to the Minute was replaced with the revamped Tattletales.
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No they didn't. In January 1982, NBC still had Wheel, Blockbusters, Password + and Battlestars, although 3 of those 4 would be cancelled by springtime.

EDIT: Not Tattletales, but Wheel of Fortune. I need more sleep. :-)
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: aaron sica on May 20, 2005, 10:36:33 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'May 20 2005, 10:30 AM\']
No they didn't. In January 1982, NBC still had Tattletales, Blockbusters, Password + and Battlestars, although 3 of those 4 would be cancelled by springtime.
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Before you get corrected by Zach...:)

NBC had Blockbusters, WoF, Battlestars, and P+ in that airing order (10:30-12:30), and when "Search for Tomorrow" moved from CBS to NBC, it took the 12:30 time slot, pushing "Doctors" a half hour back to noon. "Texas" moved from 3pm to 11am, and WoF moved a half hour back to 10:30 from 11am.
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: BrandonFG on May 20, 2005, 10:45:38 AM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'May 20 2005, 09:36 AM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'May 20 2005, 10:30 AM\']
No they didn't. In January 1982, NBC still had Tattletales, Blockbusters, Password + and Battlestars, although 3 of those 4 would be cancelled by springtime.
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Before you get corrected by Zach...:)

NBC had Blockbusters, WoF, Battlestars, and P+ in that airing order (10:30-12:30), and when "Search for Tomorrow" moved from CBS to NBC, it took the 12:30 time slot, pushing "Doctors" a half hour back to noon. "Texas" moved from 3pm to 11am, and WoF moved a half hour back to 10:30 from 11am.
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Interesting. I had wondered what NBC's noon programming was for '82, and kept wondering in the back of my mind was there a game show I had forgotten, but apparently not.
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: aaron sica on May 20, 2005, 11:07:16 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'May 20 2005, 10:45 AM\']
Interesting. I had wondered what NBC's noon programming was for '82, and kept wondering in the back of my mind was there a game show I had forgotten, but apparently not.
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Even back in '82, there were some stations (Philly's being one of them), that either didn't show the noon offering, put it at another time slot (Feud airing at 11:30, for example), or pawned it off on another station (Ch. 48's airing of $20K Pyramid a few years previous).

I remember being totally shocked in spring '82 when I got a look at the Washington-Baltimore TV Guide, and P+ was still on!! IIRC, WRC-4 from DC aired it at 9:30 am. The NBC stations in the TV Guide where I lived (KYW-3, WGAL-8, WBAL-11) didn't carry NBC's noon offering at that time, although later in the '80s, KYW-3 did air SP, albeit at 3:30pm.
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: SRIV94 on May 20, 2005, 11:08:40 AM
Of course, a future game show connection occupied the 10AM/9AM slot in January 1982--THE REGIS PHILBIN SHOW had replaced LVG (Reege would be displaced by Arnold Jackson and his disfunctional family).

But we all knew that.

Doug
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: ChuckNet on May 21, 2005, 02:39:04 AM
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I didn't know FtM reruns aired on WOR in 1982, either?

Ch. 9 seemed to air a good # of GS reruns after they were cancelled in 1982...besides FtM, they also aired LMaD 80 in some obscure overnight slot (I think it was 4:30 AM) during the latter part of the 81-82 season, and they also aired late night reruns of Pitfall sporadically at 12:30 AM in fall 82, not long after it was cancelled.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: chrispw1 on November 17, 2006, 11:14:16 PM
Could you give the listings from the other 80s ones and 1979 one as well as all the daytime programming not just game shows that was preempted and which ones were picked up by independents. it is something I have been trying to research regarding preemptions and indeoendents picking shows up.
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: aaron sica on November 18, 2006, 12:07:28 AM
[quote name=\'chrispw1\' post=\'138153\' date=\'Nov 17 2006, 11:14 PM\']
Could you give the listings from the other 80s ones and 1979 one as well as all the daytime programming not just game shows that was preempted and which ones were picked up by independents. it is something I have been trying to research regarding preemptions and indeoendents picking shows up.
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Sorry, I don't have the time. Perhaps there's a library around you!
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: Tim L on November 18, 2006, 01:39:08 AM
[quote name=\'chrispw1\' post=\'138153\' date=\'Nov 17 2006, 11:14 PM\']
Could you give the listings from the other 80s ones and 1979 one as well as all the daytime programming not just game shows that was preempted and which ones were picked up by independents. it is something I have been trying to research regarding preemptions and indeoendents picking shows up.
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chris:
    Welcome to the forum..The "retro" schedules were something some of us did well over a year  ago..primarily game-show related..While it was fun at first it kind of got old real fast..So I wouldnt expect anyone just to post schedules at this point just because you ask..As Aaron said, Your local library is a good place to research old TV listings, TV Guides, etc.  Also, some consider it not good form to reply to posts over a year old..Just a caution..Enjoy your stay..
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 18, 2006, 08:59:08 AM
[quote name=\'Tim L\' post=\'138162\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 01:39 AM\']
 Also, some consider it not good form to reply to posts over a year old..Just a caution..Enjoy your stay..[/quote]
I had a thought about this.  It's possible that a newbie with a specific interest (vintage TVG schedules, for example) was drawn here by a Google search that happened to identify an old post of ours.  He very well could have entered our forum on an old page.  That seems a lot more likely than somebody carefully poring through hundreds of pages before deciding that his first post would relate to something so ancient.  Maybe we should back off from that criticism a little.
Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: Tim L on November 18, 2006, 09:04:25 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'138168\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 08:59 AM\']
[quote name=\'Tim L\' post=\'138162\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 01:39 AM\']
 Also, some consider it not good form to reply to posts over a year old..Just a caution..Enjoy your stay..[/quote]
I had a thought about this.  It's possible that a newbie with a specific interest (vintage TVG schedules, for example) was drawn here by a Google search that happened to identify an old post of ours.  He very well could have entered our forum on an old page.  That seems a lot more likely than somebody carefully poring through hundreds of pages before deciding that his first post would relate to something so ancient.  Maybe we should back off from that criticism a little.
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You may be right on that account Matt..Meant no harm really..just trying to be a  help..I know on lot of other boards it is considered not wise..Was trying to spare him worse grief down the road..
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Post by: aaron sica on November 18, 2006, 09:16:11 AM
[quote name=\'Tim L\' post=\'138169\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 09:04 AM\']
You may be right on that account Matt..Meant no harm really..just trying to be a  help..I know on lot of other boards it is considered not wise..Was trying to spare him worse grief down the road..
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I have a feeling that he came here just for the schedules, like Matt said, and really isn't interested in conversation. As for why they're not posted anymore, well said, you put it better than I can. :) They were fun, but yes, they did get old fast.

If anyone reading this is still interested in them, radio-info does still have people posting them (and it may still even be that same "highwayman" guy).
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Post by: aaron sica on November 18, 2006, 11:13:37 AM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'138170\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 09:16 AM\']
[quote name=\'Tim L\' post=\'138169\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 09:04 AM\']
You may be right on that account Matt..Meant no harm really..just trying to be a  help..I know on lot of other boards it is considered not wise..Was trying to spare him worse grief down the road..
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I have a feeling that he came here just for the schedules, like Matt said, and really isn't interested in conversation.  There, fixed that for myself. :)

Why they're not posted anymore, well said, you put it better than I can. :) They were fun, but yes, they did get old fast.

If anyone reading this is still interested in them, radio-info does still have people posting them (and it may still even be that same "highwayman" guy).
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Title: TV Guide Retro...
Post by: dzinkin on November 18, 2006, 11:18:22 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'138168\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 08:59 AM\']
[quote name=\'Tim L\' post=\'138162\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 01:39 AM\']
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I had a thought about this.  It's possible that a newbie with a specific interest (vintage TVG schedules, for example) was drawn here by a Google search that happened to identify an old post of ours.  He very well could have entered our forum on an old page.  That seems a lot more likely than somebody carefully poring through hundreds of pages before deciding that his first post would relate to something so ancient.  Maybe we should back off from that criticism a little.
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For whatever it's worth, the two threads he started today show that at least he's interested in something other than schedules.  Of course, he could have found us through the Google search in Matt's hypothetical example and then decided to stay.  Either way, it usually doesn't take long to determine a new poster's intent.

I know that it's tempting to think that there are many more people like tmq800, who often replied to one-year-old posts because he couldn't think of anything else to do after he was ordered not to stalk Steve Beverly, or gshowguy, who saw nothing wrong with replying to a two- or three-year-dormant thread with comments about foreign shows that had absolutely anything to do with the topic of the thread.  Let's give Chris a chance.
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Post by: clemon79 on November 18, 2006, 02:32:07 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'138168\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 05:59 AM\']
Maybe we should back off from that criticism a little.
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Agreed completely. It's NEVER wrong to bump an old post if you have something useful to add to the discussion. We should not be discouraging new members from contributing even though the discussion happened before they joined, nor should we be discouraging new members from searching through the archives to see if a thread exists before making a new one on the same subject. Hell, I wish that were something OLD members would do more often.
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on November 18, 2006, 08:47:28 PM
I agree with Messrs. Ottinger and Lemon, and would only add that in such situations, it is probably courteous for the "new contributor" to acknowledge that he IS replying to an old thread.

(I almost said "he or she", but then I remembered where I was.)
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Post by: TLEberle on November 18, 2006, 09:04:15 PM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'138223\' date=\'Nov 18 2006, 05:47 PM\'](I almost said "he or she", but then I remembered where I was.)[/quote]And for today's episode of Tangent Time, have there been any surveys or studies that detail what the gender split is for internet/web use? It must be getting closer to 50/50, what with the whole ease-of-use revolution.