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Title: 2012-13 syndication
Post by: MikeK on July 11, 2012, 01:42:11 PM
For the upcoming season, what are the new syndicated offerings (new shows, not reruns) and what current shows are gone?  Here's what I have...

New:
Let's Ask America
The EXTRA-ish companion show for Let's Ask America
The Steve Harvey Show
Katie Couric's new show
Title: 2012-13 syndication
Post by: Don Howard on July 11, 2012, 02:48:37 PM
To the above listed, I add The Jeff Probst Show, which preems on Sep 10.
Tabloid talker Trisha starring Trisha Goddard comes your way starting Sep 17.

On the cancellation list are Swift Justice and The Nate Berkus Show.

***I know this show is a once-a-year deal but it is syndicated, The MDA Telethon is being cut to three hours.***
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Post by: DoItRockapella on July 11, 2012, 04:11:11 PM
While we're on this topic, it's time for me to ask the question I ask every year: what are the season start dates for syndicated game shows this year?

I know Baggage and Let's Ask America start on September 17, but that leaves four syndicated shows and two CBS Daytime shows...anybody know?
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Post by: byrd62 on July 11, 2012, 06:20:28 PM
To the above listed, I add The Jeff Probst Show, which preems on Sep 10.
Tabloid talker Trisha starring Trisha Goddard comes your way starting Sep 17.

On the cancellation list are Swift Justice and The Nate Berkus Show.

***I know this show is a once-a-year deal but it is syndicated, The MDA Telethon is being cut to three hours.***

Also on Sep 10, and making her return to syndicated TV...go ricki...go ricki...can it get more unoriginal?  Yes, how about Arsenio and Latifah possibly returning next year?
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Post by: BrandonFG on July 11, 2012, 07:15:51 PM
Yes, how about Arsenio and Latifah possibly returning next year?
I find the latter interesting; she had a daytime talk show that didn't last too long in the late-90s. I'm guessing this one will be more like a "desk" talk show like Rosie O'Donnell or that guy who created the game with the big wheel and letters and stuff?
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Post by: PYLdude on July 11, 2012, 08:40:13 PM
Arsenio I heard was a definite, at least it was last I checked.

Wonder what the NBC O&Os will try now for daytime- seems like they can't win for anything lately (Bonnie Hunt, Nate Berkus, syndie Deal, Real Housewives reruns *shudder*).
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Post by: Bryce L. on July 11, 2012, 08:46:21 PM
I know Baggage and Let's Ask America start on September 17, but that leaves four syndicated shows and two CBS Daytime shows...anybody know?
I also would be interested to hear when TPIR's Season 41 premiere is set to air. I'm not sure whether you guys here or the G-R.net crew would be better informed about when that would be, though...
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Post by: BrandonFG on July 11, 2012, 09:15:26 PM
Wonder what the NBC O&Os will try now for daytime- seems like they can't win for anything lately (Bonnie Hunt, Nate Berkus, syndie Deal, Real Housewives reruns *shudder*).
Another hour of the Today show?
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Post by: PYLdude on July 11, 2012, 09:19:19 PM
Wonder what the NBC O&Os will try now for daytime- seems like they can't win for anything lately (Bonnie Hunt, Nate Berkus, syndie Deal, Real Housewives reruns *shudder*).
Another hour of the Today show?

5 hours? Good lord.

Wouldn't put it past 'em though- although wasn't that the hour they gave up in order to get the 10 AM hour back from the affiliates?

The only thing that's seemed to work is Ellen, with the possible exception of Martha Stewart (and I don't even know if that was an NBC affiliate exclusive or not while it was on broadcast TV).
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Post by: clemon79 on July 11, 2012, 09:23:52 PM
I also would be interested to hear when TPIR's Season 41 premiere is set to air. I'm not sure whether you guys here or the G-R.net crew would be better informed about when that would be, though...
Seeing as the people most likely to tell *us* are the folks who RUN G-R.net, I think I'd go with them.
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Post by: Johnissoevil on July 12, 2012, 12:40:15 AM
On the cancellation list are Swift Justice .

OJ must be as happy as a pig rolling in sh*t over Jackie's TV gig going bye bye.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 12, 2012, 01:00:27 AM
I was surprised Swift Justice even made it OUT of its first season, nevermind to the end of a second...but then again, I hate Nancy Grace, so you could probably say I have some bias working there. :)
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Post by: tvwxman on July 12, 2012, 10:58:11 AM

The EXTRA-ish companion show for Let's Ask America


Game show link : The companion show is being hosted by Teresa Strasser - who has lots of game show connections, including hosting GSN's Lovers' Lounge for a bit, and winning an Emmy as a writer for Win Ben Stein's Money. She's good people, a smart girl and very nice.
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Post by: Steve Gavazzi on July 12, 2012, 05:53:14 PM
I also would be interested to hear when TPIR's Season 41 premiere is set to air. I'm not sure whether you guys here or the G-R.net crew would be better informed about when that would be, though...
I don't think a date's been set yet, but based on the past 15 years or so, September 17 seems like the most logical guess.
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Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on July 12, 2012, 11:01:12 PM
My question is: what happens to Jeopardy in advance of Katie Couric's new talk show? This is, as far as I know, the first time Jeopardy and Inside Edition will be displaced by a regularly scheduled program.

Also, am I the only one here who actually looks forward to Arsenio making a comeback?

The Inquisitive One

/gotta have the Dog Pound and Burton Richardson announcing, or it's no deal
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Post by: Jeremy Nelson on July 13, 2012, 03:29:09 PM
Also, am I the only one here who actually looks forward to Arsenio making a comeback?
I am too. He was still fairly popular when he got cancelled, and he wasn't just popular; he was good, too.

Surprised to see Ricki Lake and Queen Latifah back in the fold, but even more surprised to see Trisha jump the pond; did Jeremy Kyle's show even register on the Nielsen scale?
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Post by: Jimmy Owen on July 13, 2012, 03:35:49 PM
Also, am I the only one here who actually looks forward to Arsenio making a comeback?
I am too. He was still fairly popular when he got cancelled, and he wasn't just popular; he was good, too.

Surprised to see Ricki Lake and Queen Latifah back in the fold, but even more surprised to see Trisha jump the pond; did Jeremy Kyle's show even register on the Nielsen scale?
Kyle has been around a 0.5 all season.  Still good enough to be renewed for a second season, tho.
Title: 2012-13 syndication
Post by: Strikerz04 on July 14, 2012, 08:53:53 PM
My question is: what happens to Jeopardy in advance of Katie Couric's new talk show? This is, as far as I know, the first time Jeopardy and Inside Edition will be displaced by a regularly scheduled program.

Also, am I the only one here who actually looks forward to Arsenio making a comeback?

The Inquisitive One

/gotta have the Dog Pound and Burton Richardson announcing, or it's no deal

Jeopardy and Inside Edition (in Chicago at least) will be pushed back an hour.

And as for Arsenio...I've been waiting since the retrospective on VH1 in the last decade.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 14, 2012, 08:57:57 PM
Also, am I the only one here who actually looks forward to Arsenio making a comeback?
I am too. He was still fairly popular when he got cancelled

The ratings had been down significantly for some time and bottomed out during his last season. To say he was "fairly popular" at that point is quite the misnomer.
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Post by: tvwxman on July 14, 2012, 09:11:10 PM
The ratings had been down significantly for some time and bottomed out during his last season. To say he was "fairly popular" at that point is quite the misnomer.

"Fairly popular"? He was, and still is twenty years later, well-known based on just his first name. What more do you want?
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Post by: PYLdude on July 14, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
The ratings had been down significantly for some time and bottomed out during his last season. To say he was "fairly popular" at that point is quite the misnomer.

"Fairly popular"? He was, and still is twenty years later, well-known based on just his first name. What more do you want?

Then why did his show get cancelled? He may still have had name recognition but it wasn't enough to get him a sixth season, was it? You're in television, you know how much ratings play into things.
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Post by: TLEberle on July 14, 2012, 10:06:18 PM
Then why did his show get cancelled? He may still have had name recognition but it wasn't enough to get him a sixth season, was it? You're in television, you know how much ratings play into things.
Looking at the (relatively sane) Wikipedia page, it looks like a whole lot of outside circumstances there.

Really? A person's name recognition is the only thing that gets a show renewed? Come now.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 14, 2012, 10:16:30 PM
Really? A person's name recognition is the only thing that gets a show renewed? Come now.

Don't know if I'm the target of that statement but my point was that okay fine, people may know who you are (and Arsenio Hall, good on him, he's been able to hang onto the public consciousness for most of the 18 years-at least to some degrees, there's been some points in there where he's vanished, come back strong, then disappeared again- since his show's been gone), but if they don't like your show for any reason (its timeslot, its quality, etc.) they're not gonna watch you. I think he can succeed the second time around.

What I'm surprised is that Paramount didn't try to keep him around for awhile longer- he had some CBS affiliates and a lot of Fox affiliates, but I think another treasure trove of affiliates of his were soon-to-be UPN affiliates, and I think it could've been worth a try to get him onto those stations (in NYC, he was on WWOR which was the network's flagship). Maybe too much damage had been done.
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Post by: tidefan12 on July 15, 2012, 01:36:35 AM
Really? A person's name recognition is the only thing that gets a show renewed? Come now.

Don't know if I'm the target of that statement but my point was that okay fine, people may know who you are (and Arsenio Hall, good on him, he's been able to hang onto the public consciousness for most of the 18 years-at least to some degrees, there's been some points in there where he's vanished, come back strong, then disappeared again- since his show's been gone), but if they don't like your show for any reason (its timeslot, its quality, etc.) they're not gonna watch you. I think he can succeed the second time around.

What I'm surprised is that Paramount didn't try to keep him around for awhile longer- he had some CBS affiliates and a lot of Fox affiliates, but I think another treasure trove of affiliates of his were soon-to-be UPN affiliates, and I think it could've been worth a try to get him onto those stations (in NYC, he was on WWOR which was the network's flagship). Maybe too much damage had been done.

I saw an interview Arsenio did with Tavis Smiley (which I think is circulating on YouTube) where he gave what certainly seemed to be a brutally honest post-mortem in an era of PR speak re: show cancellations.  He and David Letterman had the same agent, Mike Ovitz, a.k.a. "The Godfather" as anointed by Dave from the book "The Late Shift".  When Ovitz was able to get Letterman the 11:30 CBS gig, he sat down with Arsenio and explained what would most likely happen to his show (later clearances, lower-rated stations, loss of high profile affiliates, etc.) and recommended that it might be a good time to get out while the gettin' was good and try something different.  Remember, too, that part of his success came riding the coattails of Eddie Murphy, and while he was able to parlay that into gold the first time with a big feature film and, ultimately, the talk show, by 1994 his own star was fading and so was Eddie's, so his options probably weren't what they were five years prior.  

I have to wonder this time around if first-run syndication is the best route for him to take.  If it were, I can't imagine why Conan didn't try that post-"Tonight Show".  Maybe the landscape has changed enough in the past three years that the same objections Fox affiliates had for not wanting Conan 3 years ago (long term commitments to "TMZ" and other syndie properties, etc.) are no longer an obstacle.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 15, 2012, 02:04:37 AM
I saw an interview Arsenio did with Tavis Smiley (which I think is circulating on YouTube) where he gave what certainly seemed to be a brutally honest post-mortem in an era of PR speak re: show cancellations.  He and David Letterman had the same agent, Mike Ovitz, a.k.a. "The Godfather" as anointed by Dave from the book "The Late Shift".  When Ovitz was able to get Letterman the 11:30 CBS gig, he sat down with Arsenio and explained what would most likely happen to his show (later clearances, lower-rated stations, loss of high profile affiliates, etc.) and recommended that it might be a good time to get out while the gettin' was good and try something different.  Remember, too, that part of his success came riding the coattails of Eddie Murphy, and while he was able to parlay that into gold the first time with a big feature film and, ultimately, the talk show, by 1994 his own star was fading and so was Eddie's, so his options probably weren't what they were five years prior.

If I were Arsenio I'd have fired him on the spot- Ovitz basically double-crossed him.

I agree with you that his options probably weren't great, but let's not forget that Paramount had stuck with him for the better part of eight years and he proved he could carry a show. I don't think Coming To America was the big boon for his career that everyone seems to think it was.

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I have to wonder this time around if first-run syndication is the best route for him to take.  If it were, I can't imagine why Conan didn't try that post-"Tonight Show".  Maybe the landscape has changed enough in the past three years that the same objections Fox affiliates had for not wanting Conan 3 years ago (long term commitments to "TMZ" and other syndie properties, etc.) are no longer an obstacle.

Take away the Fox affiliates and you're left with the Tribune stations, who have their own commitments, the non-Fox owned MyNet stations, which have their own commitments, and not a whole lot else. That would've been Conan's worst option.

Seems Tribune's stations are hurting for late night programming now- Old Christine reruns aren't working as well, and they flopped with Entourage last year, maybe they have nothing to lose. IIRC most of the Fox stations are airing 30 Rock and/or The Office, plus The Big Bang Theory and The Simpsons, and are gonna be picking Modern Family up when that goes into syndication in the next two years. (My Fox-owned MyNet also has the Tyler Perry Power Hour, My Name Is Earl, and South Park- gotta figure those would play in too.)
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Post by: clemon79 on July 15, 2012, 03:09:45 AM
If I were Arsenio I'd have fired him on the spot- Ovitz basically double-crossed him.
Oh, this ought to be good.

Please explain to the class why this is a double-cross and not an agent simply doing his job.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 15, 2012, 03:32:11 AM
If I were Arsenio I'd have fired him on the spot- Ovitz basically double-crossed him.
Oh, this ought to be good.

Please explain to the class why this is a double-cross and not an agent simply doing his job.

Oh, think about it for a second...when your agent works to get another client a primo deal for a prime television spot at what will be largely at your expense because his other client is going to be on a lot of stations in a lot of timeslots you currently possess, what would you call it, if not a double-cross?
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Post by: clemon79 on July 15, 2012, 03:42:31 AM
Oh, think about it for a second...when your agent works to get another client a primo deal for a prime television spot at what will be largely at your expense because his other client is going to be on a lot of stations in a lot of timeslots you currently possess, what would you call it, if not a double-cross?
"Business."

The agent's job is to do the best he can for his client at that exact moment, and the agent's other clients should never ever ever figure in to that performance at all. That's how you become an ex-agent.

If Ovitz has the chance to get Letterman a kajillion-dollar deal on another network at 11:30 on the heels of NBC farking him over, he takes it. Period. That's why people like Letterman hire him to be his agent.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 15, 2012, 03:46:08 AM
Oh, think about it for a second...when your agent works to get another client a primo deal for a prime television spot at what will be largely at your expense because his other client is going to be on a lot of stations in a lot of timeslots you currently possess, what would you call it, if not a double-cross?
"Business."

The agent's job is to do the best he can for his client at that exact moment, and the agent's other clients should never ever ever figure in to that performance at all. That's how you become an ex-agent.

If Ovitz has the chance to get Letterman a kajillion-dollar deal on another network at 11:30 on the heels of NBC farking him over, he takes it. Period. That's why people like Letterman hire him to be his agent.

Alright, fair point.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on July 15, 2012, 11:58:49 AM
Have to remember, none of this stuff happens in a vacuum.  It's never as simple as step A led to step B.  As much as Letterman's CBS ascension was a probable cause, so too was -- of all things -- The Chevy Chase Show.  That catastrophic failure was nevertheless a FOX network show, and FOX demanded that its affiliates make room for it.  I bet that Arsenio had more FOX stations than CBS ones, and Chevy's show -- by its very existence -- might have done more damage than Dave's.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 15, 2012, 06:44:12 PM
Have to remember, none of this stuff happens in a vacuum.  It's never as simple as step A led to step B.  As much as Letterman's CBS ascension was a probable cause, so too was -- of all things -- The Chevy Chase Show.  That catastrophic failure was nevertheless a FOX network show, and FOX demanded that its affiliates make room for it.  I bet that Arsenio had more FOX stations than CBS ones, and Chevy's show -- by its very existence -- might have done more damage than Dave's.

Oh yeah.

From what I got, though, it seemed like it was an equal mix of both- I did a lot of the research for the show's Wiki page and from my gathering that's what I found.

Arsenio was on at least one O&O for CBS...wonder if any others had him.
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Post by: tvwxman on July 15, 2012, 06:58:14 PM
Bill Carter's "The Late Shift" is the best, most accurate history on this subject. If you're a TV fan, read....and enjoy.
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Post by: clemon79 on July 15, 2012, 07:05:06 PM
Bill Carter's "The Late Shift" is the best, most accurate history on this subject. If you're a TV fan, read....and enjoy.
God, I'd love to. Who do I have to blow to get that thing on a Kindle?
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Post by: Bryce L. on July 15, 2012, 07:46:35 PM
It sounds as though it's not very easy to stay on the air once you're there... how hard is it for a new show to get picked up to begin with, and then is it difficult for a new series to gain a foothold in the ratings?
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Post by: tvwxman on July 15, 2012, 10:13:32 PM
Bill Carter's "The Late Shift" is the best, most accurate history on this subject. If you're a TV fan, read....and enjoy.
God, I'd love to. Who do I have to blow to get that thing on a Kindle?
Sadly, It's me.
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Post by: clemon79 on July 15, 2012, 10:22:04 PM
Sadly, It's me.
Alright, well, if that's what it's gonna take, let's get this over with...
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Post by: trainman on July 15, 2012, 10:43:29 PM
[quote name='Strikerz04']Jeopardy and Inside Edition (in Chicago at least) will be pushed back an hour. [/quote]

Pushed back to the 4:00 hour, or, uh, pulled forward to the 2:00 hour?

Bill Carter's "The Late Shift" is the best, most accurate history on this subject. If you're a TV fan, read....and enjoy.
God, I'd love to. Who do I have to blow to get that thing on a Kindle?

You have something against reading the old-fashioned way?  Presumably you could borrow a dead-tree version through a library near you -- for example, I just checked, and the L.A. public library system still has 9 copies.
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Post by: jjman920 on July 16, 2012, 12:09:35 AM
Have any announcements been made yet as to where J! and Wheel will air in the cities whose Scripps affiliates dropped them? I've been seeing promos for Katie and The Steve Harvey Show on the channels where they will be airing, so I wasn't sure if they'd be rolling out announcement regarding two of the biggest syndicated programs.
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Post by: clemon79 on July 16, 2012, 01:00:32 AM
You have something against reading the old-fashioned way?  Presumably you could borrow a dead-tree version through a library near you -- for example, I just checked, and the L.A. public library system still has 9 copies.
Well, I'd like to own it, but I don't buy print books anymore. And there's no reason it *shouldn't* be digitized.

Point about the library is well-taken, though, let me look....nope. King County Library System fails me. I can watch the HBO movie, but they do not have the book.
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Post by: Jeremy Nelson on July 17, 2012, 09:18:18 AM
[quote name='Strikerz04']Jeopardy and Inside Edition (in Chicago at least) will be pushed back an hour.

Pushed back to the 4:00 hour, or, uh, pulled forward to the 2:00 hour?
[/quote]
I would assume it's to 4...otherwise that would more than likely make the Chicago airing of Jeopardy the earliest in the country...if it already isn't.

Inside Edition and jeopardy have owned that hour in Chicago for a very long time..probably since the former started its run. WLS must have a lot of faith in Katie if they're shaking up their afternoon lineup like that....or those two shows haven't been performing as of late in that hour slot.
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Post by: Neumms on July 17, 2012, 08:11:16 PM
Inside Edition and jeopardy have owned that hour in Chicago for a very long time..probably since the former started its run. WLS must have a lot of faith in Katie if they're shaking up their afternoon lineup like that....or those two shows haven't been performing as of late in that hour slot.

Or ABC owns the station and part of the show.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 17, 2012, 08:13:56 PM
I would assume it's to 4...otherwise that would more than likely make the Chicago airing of Jeopardy the earliest in the country...if it already isn't.

It isn't. There's at least one or two stations that air Jeopardy! in the morning.

Inside Edition and jeopardy have owned that hour in Chicago for a very long time..probably since the former started its run. WLS must have a lot of faith in Katie if they're shaking up their afternoon lineup like that....or those two shows haven't been performing as of late in that hour slot.

Or ABC owns the station and part of the show.

Which means precisely jack squat, because if WLS wanted to I'm sure they could pre-empt the slot with the Jeopardy!/Inside Edition Hour and move Couric to the morning- I don't know what's airing in the Oprah spot now, but that's where I'd figure it would go were they so inclined to do it.

(Example: WABC's pre-emption of Port Charles to bring Millionaire over after WCBS dumped it. Granted Port Charles wasn't exactly the ratings draw, but still, that's an O&O preempting a network show that the network has a stake in, isn't it?)
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Post by: Jimmy Owen on July 17, 2012, 09:27:24 PM
I would assume it's to 4...otherwise that would more than likely make the Chicago airing of Jeopardy the earliest in the country...if it already isn't.

It isn't. There's at least one or two stations that air Jeopardy! in the morning.

Inside Edition and jeopardy have owned that hour in Chicago for a very long time..probably since the former started its run. WLS must have a lot of faith in Katie if they're shaking up their afternoon lineup like that....or those two shows haven't been performing as of late in that hour slot.

Or ABC owns the station and part of the show.

Which means precisely jack squat, because if WLS wanted to I'm sure they could pre-empt the slot with the Jeopardy!/Inside Edition Hour and move Couric to the morning- I don't know what's airing in the Oprah spot now, but that's where I'd figure it would go were they so inclined to do it.

(Example: WABC's pre-emption of Port Charles to bring Millionaire over after WCBS dumped it. Granted Port Charles wasn't exactly the ratings draw, but still, that's an O&O preempting a network show that the network has a stake in, isn't it?)
From what I understand, the Couric show will be live, so if it were placed in the morning it would be a recording from the previous day.  ABC wouldn't let WLS do that.  The old Oprah morning slot on WLS is occupied by a local talk/service show.
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Post by: Strikerz04 on July 17, 2012, 10:24:41 PM
[quote name='Strikerz04']Jeopardy and Inside Edition (in Chicago at least) will be pushed back an hour.

Pushed back to the 4:00 hour, or, uh, pulled forward to the 2:00 hour?
I would assume it's to 4...otherwise that would more than likely make the Chicago airing of Jeopardy the earliest in the country...if it already isn't.

Inside Edition and jeopardy have owned that hour in Chicago for a very long time..probably since the former started its run. WLS must have a lot of faith in Katie if they're shaking up their afternoon lineup like that....or those two shows haven't been performing as of late in that hour slot.
[/quote]

It would help if I said that it'd be pulled (http://"http://timeoutchicago.com/arts-culture/chicago-media-blog/15356406/daytime-drama-how-will-abc-7-make-room-for-katie-kelly") forward to 2pm.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 17, 2012, 10:30:55 PM

From what I understand, the Couric show will be live, so if it were placed in the morning it would be a recording from the previous day.  ABC wouldn't let WLS do that.  The old Oprah morning slot on WLS is occupied by a local talk/service show.

I don't know where you got that from- "Katie" is going to be syndicated and air in various timeslots around the country, so how is it going to be live? WLS could basically do whatever they want with the show if they wanted to because it's not an ABC network program.

And if it would have become that much of a problem, ABC could simply move it to any of the other Chicago stations, couldn't it?

In the meantime, adding: Jeff Probst is replacing Nate Berkus on WNBC in New York, Ricki Lake is replacing Anderson Cooper on WPIX, and Anderson Cooper is moving to WNYW- don't know who he's displacing, although I'm willing to bet it's going to be Dr. Oz- he's on in a double run and his normal timeslot serves as the lead-in for the 5 PM news and it does well. (Unless, of course, Fox 5 decides to dump one of the court shows it airs.)
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Post by: jjman920 on July 17, 2012, 10:55:51 PM

From what I understand, the Couric show will be live, so if it were placed in the morning it would be a recording from the previous day.  ABC wouldn't let WLS do that.  The old Oprah morning slot on WLS is occupied by a local talk/service show.

I don't know where you got that from- "Katie" is going to be syndicated and air in various timeslots around the country, so how is it going to be live? WLS could basically do whatever they want with the show if they wanted to because it's not an ABC network program.
"Live with Kelly" is live and is not aired live where I live and I thought "Live" was syndicated. I don't know anything about "Katie" being live, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility, I suppose.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 17, 2012, 11:01:48 PM

From what I understand, the Couric show will be live, so if it were placed in the morning it would be a recording from the previous day.  ABC wouldn't let WLS do that.  The old Oprah morning slot on WLS is occupied by a local talk/service show.

I don't know where you got that from- "Katie" is going to be syndicated and air in various timeslots around the country, so how is it going to be live? WLS could basically do whatever they want with the show if they wanted to because it's not an ABC network program.
"Live with Kelly" is live and is not aired live where I live and I thought "Live" was syndicated. I don't know anything about "Katie" being live, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility, I suppose.

Variety shows can really pull that off better, though- Rosie O'Donnell and Tony Danza are two examples that you can add, with Rosie emanating live on the east coast from 30 Rock and Tony from ABC central on Columbus Avenue. Topical shows, like "Katie" is going to be, I don't know so much. There's too much that could go wrong (hence why "Maury", "Springer", and shows of that ilk aren't live)- moreso than variety shows.

Speaking of Rosie O'Donnell's show- when Caroline Rhea took it over for her only season, did that air live in certain markets? I know it didn't here because she didn't inherit either of Rosie's timeslots she had- Wayne Brady got the morning and I wanna say Dr. Phil got the evening.
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Post by: BrandonFG on July 17, 2012, 11:11:06 PM
Caroline's show taped at 11am, didn't it? If so, I really wanna say yes, that Norfolk aired it at that time.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 17, 2012, 11:11:52 PM
Caroline's show taped at 11am, didn't it? If so, I really wanna say yes, that Norfolk aired it at that time.

10, I would believe, because that's when Rosie started her show.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on July 18, 2012, 11:11:26 AM
Variety shows can really pull that off better, though- Rosie O'Donnell and Tony Danza are two examples that you can add, with Rosie emanating live on the east coast from 30 Rock and Tony from ABC central on Columbus Avenue. Topical shows, like "Katie" is going to be, I don't know so much. There's too much that could go wrong (hence why "Maury", "Springer", and shows of that ilk aren't live)- moreso than variety shows.
You're losing me on many levels.  A variety show, which will have a...well, "variety" of elements, is easier to pull off live than two people in chairs?  Because a show is topical, it's not as good for it to be done live?  For examples of topical talk shows, you use Maury and Springer?

Meanwhile, though I couldn't find an official report, the first sentence of this story (http://"http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennagoudreau/2012/04/03/morning-show-wars-katie-couric-on-good-morning-america-live-blog/") seems to suggest you're wrong anyway.
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Post by: DoItRockapella on August 02, 2012, 06:38:23 PM
I feel silly bumping, but this seems like the best place to ask this: after a little Googling around, I *think* I have found the Fall 2012 season start dates for syndicated shows. Does anybody know for sure? Could you confirm or deny?

Here's the list I have:

September 10 - WWTBAM, Family Feud

September 17 - Wheel Of Fortune, Jeopardy, Baggage, Let's Ask America (if it's on in your area - and it's not on in mine)

September 24 - TPIR, Let's Make A Deal

Sound right?
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Post by: Ian Wallis on August 02, 2012, 09:02:37 PM
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September 17 - Wheel Of Fortune, Jeopardy,

If those are the correct dates, I'm surprised.  For years those shows started on Labor Day, and I know recently it's been a week after Labor Day.  It's probably right, but those dates are late for those shows based on past history.
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Post by: PYLdude on August 02, 2012, 09:11:42 PM
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September 17 - Wheel Of Fortune, Jeopardy,

If those are the correct dates, I'm surprised.  For years those shows started on Labor Day, and I know recently it's been a week after Labor Day.  It's probably right, but those dates are late for those shows based on past history.

Last year Jeopardy! started late too, IIRC. They were still in reruns around Labor Day (I think they were rerunning the Teachers' Tournament to start the month, broke away from that for a rerun of the Watson episodes, then finished with the two day final that week and the following Monday the new season started).

Looking at it, last year was the latest start date for any season to date and this is gonna be the first time the season finishes in August.
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Post by: chad1m on August 02, 2012, 09:22:29 PM
Millionaire is September 3rd, according to press releases announcing some auditions.
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Post by: DoItRockapella on August 02, 2012, 10:34:41 PM
Well, the September 17 date for Jeopardy comes from the official site. (http://"http://www.jeopardy.com/news/alextaping.php") I came up with the same date for Wheel Of Fortune based on this page (http://"http://www.wheeloffortune.com/showguide/upcomingweeks/") ending the Friday before, in addition to the assumption that Wheel and Jeopardy will always start on the same day.

The September 24 date for TPIR is based on this page (http://"http://www.priceisright.com/blog/air-dates") ending the Friday before. Again, I applied the same date to LMAD based mostly on the assumption that they'll always start on the same day.

Anybody know?
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Post by: toddyo on August 03, 2012, 10:11:33 AM
9/17 is the date WOF and J! shift in Cincinnati to Raycom from Scripps Howard.
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Post by: petek66 on August 03, 2012, 10:48:38 AM
I hope the 2:30 start for Jeopardy in Chicago means they'll finally stop crunching the credits
to run 4:00 news promos.
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Post by: DoItRockapella on August 06, 2012, 12:29:02 PM
BuzzerBlog just confirmed (http://"http://buzzerblog.com/2012/08/family-feud-and-burger-king-team-for-family-food-promotion-can-feud-challenge-jeopardy/") that Family Feud will begin its new season on September 10. With that in mind, here's what I have at the moment:

September 3 - WWTBAM

September 10 - Family Feud

September 17 - Wheel Of Fortune, Jeopardy, Baggage, Let's Ask America

September 24 - TPIR, Let's Make A Deal

Correct? Incorrect? Anybody know for sure?
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Post by: Jeremy Nelson on August 06, 2012, 02:29:21 PM
BuzzerBlog just confirmed (http://"http://buzzerblog.com/2012/08/family-feud-and-burger-king-team-for-family-food-promotion-can-feud-challenge-jeopardy/") that Family Feud will begin its new season on September 10. With that in mind, here's what I have at the moment:

September 3 - WWTBAM

September 10 - Family Feud

September 17 - Wheel Of Fortune, Jeopardy, Baggage, Let's Ask America

September 24 - TPIR, Let's Make A Deal

Correct? Incorrect? Anybody know for sure?

Considering trends in recent years, that looks about right.