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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: weaklink75 on March 30, 2012, 11:02:47 AM
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This is a bit of a surprise... (http://"http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/30/mtv2-hip-hop-squares/")
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"Surprise" is putting it mildly. It apparently premieres May 22.
What a birthday present for Peter Marshall... (He's 86 today).
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Wouldn't it have been simpler to just bring back regular old Hollywood Squares on some other station?
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Wouldn't it have been simpler to just bring back regular old Hollywood Squares on some other station?
I think that MTV 2 is very much a celebrity-driven channel. They have a strong demographic of young people, mostly urban or those who like urban music, and a trough of stars. Look at Nick Cannon's Wild'N Out. Very funny stuff. This is a good vehicle for that kind of audience.
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I have but one question about that list of celebrities:
HOW is Coolio NOT in it?
Honestly, I'll totally watch this just because the notion of Fat Joe playing Hollywood Squares straight is so Dali-esque.
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Merril Heatter wanted what, 22 questions per show? With these personalities I put the over/under at 10.
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Darn! My idea for "Hip Hop Scotch" must have been rejected.
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Why not hire the Wayans Bros. to put on "East Hollywood Squares?"
Given rap history, this could be the first Squares with fatalities.
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Given rap history, this could be the first Squares with fatalities.
"I'll take Raiden for the win, please!"
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Well, guys, they gave me an audition slot. I'll let you know what happens.
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Well, guys, they gave me an audition slot. I'll let you know what happens.
As....a contestant?
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Well, guys, they gave me an audition slot. I'll let you know what happens.
As....a contestant?
Yeah, as a contestant. Lol.
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I would have busted a cap in Bam Margera for the block, but this may work out...
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I was hoping we could avoid the racism, but hey.
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A 15 second promo (http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/754676/hip-hop-squares-where-the-game-show-becomes-a-party.jhtml#id=1682125) is on the website - nothing earth-shattering.
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I can just picture the host explaining the rules to the show, as has been the tradition of all previous versions. "Yo, g, da object of da homiez is to get three squares across, up and down, diagonally, or correctly agree or disagree with as many of muh homeboyz up in dat big azz tic tac toe board as possible, bee-yotches!"
Seriously... WTF?!
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When you hear the announcers say, "It's M.C. Week on Hip Hop Squares", don't expect to see game show hosts manning the squares. Expect to see the likes of MC Hammer, MC Lyte, MC Solaar,...
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A 15 second promo (http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/754676/hip-hop-squares-where-the-game-show-becomes-a-party.jhtml#id=1682125) is on the website - nothing earth-shattering.
The logo is very Windows Phone-ish, of course, assuming that's not a stand-in.
Darn! My idea for "Hip Hop Scotch" must have been rejected.
Already was a show. I found a pic of the guy who won the '77 ToC. (http://"http://crizlblogs.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/scotch.jpg")
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When you hear the announcers say, "It's M.C. Week on Hip Hop Squares", don't expect to see game show hosts manning the squares. Expect to see the likes of MC Hammer, MC Lyte, MC Solaar,...
What? No M.C. Escher?
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My grandfather went to school with MC Escher.
For him, the walk really was uphill both ways.
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I can just picture the host explaining the rules to the show, as has been the tradition of all previous versions. "Yo, g, da object of da homiez is to get three squares across, up and down, diagonally, or correctly agree or disagree with as many of muh homeboyz up in dat big azz tic tac toe board as possible, bee-yotches!"
7/10, but you got someone to bite within an hour and in the middle of the night. 9/10.
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When you hear the announcers say, "It's M.C. Week on Hip Hop Squares", don't expect to see game show hosts manning the squares. Expect to see the likes of MC Hammer, MC Lyte, MC Solaar,...
What? No M.C. Escher?
Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbb0qZ6xq6w
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My grandfather went to school with MC Escher.
For him, the walk really was uphill both ways.
"Hi-yo!" (http://"http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/6015/244mcmahoned10040661bf7rl8.jpg")
/M.C. Mahon in the house
//still refer to the fast-food joint as "M.C. Donald's"
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Fedya and DoorNumberFour: Thanks for two great laughs in such a short span!
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I can just picture the host explaining the rules to the show, as has been the tradition of all previous versions. "Yo, g, da object of da homiez is to get three squares across, up and down, diagonally, or correctly agree or disagree with as many of muh homeboyz up in dat big azz tic tac toe board as possible, bee-yotches!"
This seems vaguely racist, but I'm not sure if I'm just being overly sensitive.
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This seems vaguely racist
Vaguely?
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I can just picture the host explaining the rules to the show, as has been the tradition of all previous versions. "Yo, g, da object of da homiez is to get three squares across, up and down, diagonally, or correctly agree or disagree with as many of muh homeboyz up in dat big azz tic tac toe board as possible, bee-yotches!"
This seems vaguely racist, but I'm not sure if I'm just being overly sensitive.
Just a little bit? If there was a way to make that more racist or offensive, I'm not sure how.
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I ask sincerely: Fab 5 Freddy was unavailable to host?
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I'm going to watch it for curiosity's sake; however, based off of the genre and the parodies before it this has a "I LIKE WHERE THIS [SHOW'S] THREAD IS GOING" macro written all over it.
Here's hoping that the producers go with a cool club-based set vs. a Flatbush back-alley that Fenner's probably thinking of.
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I can just picture the host explaining the rules to the show, as has been the tradition of all previous versions. "Yo, g, da object of da homiez is to get three squares across, up and down, diagonally, or correctly agree or disagree with as many of muh homeboyz up in dat big azz tic tac toe board as possible, bee-yotches!"
This seems vaguely racist, but I'm not sure if I'm just being overly sensitive.
I'm more annoyed that it plays up to the stereotype that hip-hop involves street slang. You usually only find such misspellings in the worst of worst rap songs.
Hip hop, like, say country music, is so much more about the stereotypes people like to pigeonhole them as.
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To anyone who found my previous comment racist, that wasn't my intention at all. Others on this board would've started a flame war over the replies I got to my post, but I'm going to take the high road and apologize to anyone who was offended. I have deleted the questionable post.
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but I'm going to take the high road and apologize to anyone who was offended.
Except for the people you took a completely random shot at in the first clause of this sentence, and in so doing totally negated any sincerity your "apology" might have had?
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but I'm going to take the high road and apologize to anyone who was offended.
Except for the people you took a completely random shot at in the first clause of this sentence, and in so doing totally negated any sincerity your "apology" might have had?
Not negating any sincerity at all. I can understand why you would think my apology wasn't sincere, but I can assure you, it was, and I had no intention on offending anyone or taking a shot at anyone. I admit, I said something I should not have said.
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Just wondering ... if he had thrown in a "word to your mother" for the Vanilla Ice reference, would that have negated any racism?
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Just wondering ... if he had thrown in a "word to your mother" for the Vanilla Ice reference, would that have negated any racism?
No. Eminem would have been offended.
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I don't get where the accusations of racism are coming from in the first place. I've heard people of all of colors and creeds talk like that. It's a hip-hop thing, not a black thing.
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Well, I got the call from the casting people today -- I'm going to be a contestant on Hip Hop Squares.
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Well, I got the call from the casting people today -- I'm going to be a contestant on Hip Hop Squares.
Congratulations and good luck!
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Well, I got the call from the casting people today -- I'm going to be a contestant on Hip Hop Squares.
Congrats dude!
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Bam Margera tweeted a photo (https://p.twimg.com/Apq_rIxCAAAagM7.jpg) that shows a portion of the celebrity grid. You don't see much, but I'm pretty intrigued by what I do see. Doesn't look bad in my opinion. They went with "club theme" over "urban theme" and I think aesthetically, that's a smart move.
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This won't be the first time I've watched a game show and not known any of the celebrities, but it'll be the first time that I don't even expect to know any.
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Well, I got the call from the casting people today -- I'm going to be a contestant on Hip Hop Squares.
Congrats, well done!
The show is a weekly one, correct?
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Well, the description on MTV's website is fitting. Kinda nice to know they aren't trying to be something they're not. This is the first time I've heard of Hollywood Squares being described as "the ultimate game of BS".
"Remember Hollywood Squares? If not, it doesn't even matter. Hip Hop Squares takes that classic game show you may have just Googled to a whole new level, by remixing it with hip hop's heavyweights and their fans. Hosted by Peter Rosenberg, Hip Hop Squares will bring together comedy's coolest cats, ace athletes and pop-culture personalities, so keep your eyes on the squares for the likes of Nick Cannon, Bam Margera, Kat Graham, DJ Khaled, Ghostface Killah, Fat Joe, Mac Miller, and many more.
More than just a game of tic-tac-toe, Hip Hop Squares is the ultimate game of BS. MTV2 for the win!"
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pop-culture personalities...Bam Margera
Is this what we call famous-for-being-famous now?
/or are we rightly assigning a level of fame to people who fire bottle rockets out of their asses?
//in a related story; Burger King sounds kinda good for lunch
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Is this what we call famous-for-being-famous now?
/or are we rightly assigning a level of fame to people who fire bottle rockets out of their asses?
//in a related story; Burger King sounds kinda good for lunch
Point taken, but why not go for one of their more famous names? Better him than one of the Jersey Shore folks. Speaking of which, here's my Easter present to you guys. (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXwKLbCcLqM")
/Somewhat biased; Jackass is a guilty pleasure
//Viva La Bam was take it or leave it
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Point taken, but why not go for one of their more famous names? Better him than one of the Jersey Shore folks.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just riffing on Jeremy's choice of words, which appear to whitewash a guy whose notability was in doing really, really stupid things and abusing his family on camera. I'm not even knocking Jeremy for doing it; it just struck me as an interesting choice of language.
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Point taken, but why not go for one of their more famous names? Better him than one of the Jersey Shore folks.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just riffing on Jeremy's choice of words, which appear to whitewash a guy whose notability was in doing really, really stupid things and abusing his family on camera. I'm not even knocking Jeremy for doing it; it just struck me as an interesting choice of language.
Not even my words; that's the description straight from MTV2's website.
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Point taken, but why not go for one of their more famous names? Better him than one of the Jersey Shore folks.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just riffing on Jeremy's choice of words, which appear to whitewash a guy whose notability was in doing really, really stupid things and abusing his family on camera. I'm not even knocking Jeremy for doing it; it just struck me as an interesting choice of language.
C'mon...do you REALLY think Margera's family wasn't 100% in on the foolishness on that show? I mean, his mother was so over the top and I figured all the while she was thinking, "KEEP IT UP, SONNY...WE'RE RAKING IN THE MONEY!!!"...
JakeT
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C'mon...do you REALLY think Margera's family wasn't 100% in on the foolishness on that show?
Quite honestly, I simply don't care that much. If he was abusing them with their permission, fine, he's still abusing them. I really try to give Bam Margera as many of my mental cycles as he deserves, and no more. :)
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C'mon...do you REALLY think Margera's family wasn't 100% in on the foolishness on that show?
Quite honestly, I simply don't care that much. If he was abusing them with their permission, fine, he's still abusing them. I really try to give Bam Margera as many of my mental cycles as he deserves, and no more. :)
But how can you call it "abusive" when it was almost certainly scripted and done with their complete advanced consent of the family? Were the family not simply other characters in another MTV "reality" show that was actually more scripted than not? Frankly, I didn't care for the show either but I could tell at first glance that Margera's mother's hysterics were an absolute put-on. Besides, who could feel sorry for parents who actually ALLOWED one of their children to abuse them FOR REAL while ON CAMERA, if that were truly the case? I suppose that the elder Margeras could be victims of battered parents syndrome and not know how to get out of their hellish situation.
But I doubt it...
JakeT
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But how can you call it "abusive" when it was almost certainly scripted and done with their complete advanced consent of the family?
I apologize, I have run up against my quota of brain cycles available to dedicate to Bam Margera.
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Well, I got the call from the casting people today -- I'm going to be a contestant on Hip Hop Squares.
Congratulations! I hope they've been given a decent budget for prizes.
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"You foo'!"
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I hope they've been given a decent budget for prizes.
Not huge, but not the worst:
- $500 for winning the first round.
- $500 for winning the second round.
- $1,000 for picking the Secret Square.
- $2,500 for winning the bonus round.
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- $500 for winning the first round.
- $500 for winning the second round.
I am distressed, because you aren't saying anything about a third round. I'm hoping they are not planning for the pacing to be that insanely slow. Even Davidson was able to at least get midway through a third game.
There's a third round, right?
Right?
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Right?
I do think there will be a third round...I'm re-reading the paperwork, and it says "$500 for A COMPLETED first/second round". Also, it mentions $100 for each X/O on the board if a round is stopped in progress.
Maybe they mean it's going to be best two out of three?
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I do think there will be a third round...I'm re-reading the paperwork, and it says "$500 for A COMPLETED first/second round". Also, it mentions $100 for each X/O on the board if a round is stopped in progress.
Maybe they mean it's going to be best two out of three?
That sounds a little more likely. Basically it sounds like they're using Davidson scoring rules.
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Here's (http://distilleryimage6.instagram.com/19c34aa8825711e18cf91231380fd29b_7.jpg) a larger photo from another account. Very sleek. I like it.
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Machine Gun Kelly really has become nationally known. And I thought only teenagers in Cleveland know who he is.
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I don't know why, but the reproportioned squares made me smile.
/Hip Hop Rectangles?
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- $1,000 for picking the Secret Square.
I guess I'm not too impressed with this aspect of things. Winning two games is the equivalent of answering one question right and perhaps forcing a tie?
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- $1,000 for picking the Secret Square.
I guess I'm not too impressed with this aspect of things. Winning two games is the equivalent of answering one question right and perhaps forcing a tie?
1) I didn't see anything about the Secret Square going toward "main game" winnings.
2) We're dealing with basic cable, they're not going to have game three for $4,000.
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I guess I'm not too impressed with this aspect of things. Winning two games is the equivalent of answering one question right and perhaps forcing a tie?
I suspect it isn't "score money". And even if it is, you're taking all of this way too seriously.
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Machine Gun Kelly really has become nationally known. And I thought only teenagers in Cleveland know who he is.
Pardon my ignorance, but is this the same guy who was the Wheel of Fortune announcer for about five minutes?
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Machine Gun Kelly really has become nationally known. And I thought only teenagers in Cleveland know who he is.
Pardon my ignorance, but is this the same guy who was the Wheel of Fortune announcer for about five minutes?
Judge for yourself (http://"http://stupiddope.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/drake-machine-gun-kelly-e1323105286615.jpeg").
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Machine Gun Kelly really has become nationally known. And I thought only teenagers in Cleveland know who he is.
Pardon my ignorance, but is this the same guy who was the Wheel of Fortune announcer for about five minutes?
Judge for yourself (http://"http://stupiddope.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/drake-machine-gun-kelly-e1323105286615.jpeg").
Not a match, the board goes back.
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Here's (http://distilleryimage6.instagram.com/19c34aa8825711e18cf91231380fd29b_7.jpg) a larger photo from another account. Very sleek. I like it.
I hope those cones and tape are there so people don't step on the fresh logo.
Oh...that one guy already is. Well, I hope they aren't apart of the set.
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I hope they've been given a decent budget for prizes.
Not huge, but not the worst:
- $500 for winning the first round.
- $500 for winning the second round.
- $1,000 for picking the Secret Square.
- $2,500 for winning the bonus round.
What bonus round are they using?
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Machine Gun Kelly really has become nationally known. And I thought only teenagers in Cleveland know who he is.
Pardon my ignorance, but is this the same guy who was the Wheel of Fortune announcer for about five minutes?
Judge for yourself (http://"http://stupiddope.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/drake-machine-gun-kelly-e1323105286615.jpeg").
Not a match, the board goes back.
Now see, when I think of Machine Gun Kelly, I think of this guy, (http://"http://www.boxing360.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/kelly-pavlik1.jpg") even though he has another nickname.
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I taped my episode yesterday, and I'm under contractual lock-and-key. I will say this, though:
They did it right. Extremely right. I was super-impressed with (just about) everything. You guys will NOT be disappointed by this show.
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Not to be cynical, but I imagine my enjoyment would correlate to how much I care about these personalities, no? The only comparison I can draw at the moment is "Wild N Out," which I only stayed a few minutes with. I totally buy they executed it right, but the question remains.
-Jason
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Not to be cynical, but I imagine my enjoyment would correlate to how much I care about these personalities, no? The only comparison I can draw at the moment is "Wild N Out," which I only stayed a few minutes with. I totally buy they executed it right, but the question remains.
-Jason
I think that, regardless of how much one cares about the celebrities, the various personalities make for an extremely entertaining mix.
On my episode, at least.
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I'm going to assume that the questions are all related to hip-hop music/culture? Not really my cup of meat. I'll give it an eye, but if it is indeed hip-hop only, there's little playalong value for most people outside of MTV culture, IMO.
It is perfect for the demographics MTV2 pulls though, I'm sure.
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Not really my cup of meat
Well, there's your first problem, you're eating meat out of a farking cup. :)
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Well, there's your first problem, you're eating meat out of a farking cup. :)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-4MokVSsgs[/media]
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I'm going to assume that the questions are all related to hip-hop music/culture? Not really my cup of meat. I'll give it an eye, but if it is indeed hip-hop only, there's little playalong value for most people outside of MTV culture, IMO.
It is perfect for the demographics MTV2 pulls though, I'm sure.
You are incorrect -- the questions are general knowledge. Exactly the type of questions you'd find on a Bergeron episode.
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I think that, regardless of how much one cares about the celebrities, the various personalities make for an extremely entertaining mix.
I'm glad you enjoyed yourself, and I'm personally looking forward to seeing it, but I'm sorry, this statement just can't be true. If there are nine people I don't like (or even six or seven) then what they do is not going to be extremely entertaining to me.
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I think that, regardless of how much one cares about the celebrities, the various personalities make for an extremely entertaining mix.
I'm glad you enjoyed yourself, and I'm personally looking forward to seeing it, but I'm sorry, this statement just can't be true. If there are nine people I don't like (or even six or seven) then what they do is not going to be extremely entertaining to me.
I agree with you. He said celebrities he doesn't care about; I didn't necessarily equate "doesn't care" to "doesn't like".
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Forgive me for speaking out of turn, but shouldn't we be happy for Christian and congratulating him on his appearance, as opposed to going on about "cups of meat" (what the hell does that mean?) and questioning his opinion of a final product no one has seen?
Christian, you have my hearty congratulations and retroactive good luck. I hope that my five-square win strategem was put to good use.
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-4MokVSsgs[/media]
And if Mark's reduced to eating cat food, I would encourage him to find another line of work. :)
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"I like to do just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet
But guarding fumes and making haste
It ain’t my cup of meat"
- Bob Dylan, "Quinn the Eskimo (Mighty Quinn)"
"I like to go just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet
But jumping queues and making haste just ain't my cup of meat."
- Manfred Mann, "Mighty Quinn"
Just to add to the meat/cup discussion
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"I like to go just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet
But jumping queues and making haste just ain't my cup of meat."
- Manfred Mann, "Mighty Quinn"
I thank you.
For what its worth, Maid-Rite back in the midwest offers this as a low-carb offering.
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Here is another wider set shot of the grid. Looks pretty good. (http://"http://smackednfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/hiphopsquares.jpg")
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Any show that keeps Ashy Larry on television is all right in my book. :-)
Nice set...I like the nightclub atmosphere.
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I hope the 2Pac hologram makes a surprise appearance!
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A pretty in-depth article (http://"http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/arts/television/hip-hop-squares-with-rap-stars-on-mtv2.html") about the show appeared in the New York Times today.
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Points to Mr. Killah for recognizing the Pyramid theme.
Sadly, I closed the window accidentally and now can't see the article because of the NYT paywall, so I don't know if there were any more bits of wisdom contained therein.
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Points to Mr. Killah for recognizing the Pyramid theme.
Sadly, I closed the window accidentally and now can't see the article because of the NYT paywall, so I don't know if there were any more bits of wisdom contained therein.
Does a link to the single-page, printable article help? I'm not sure how the paywall works.:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/arts/television/hip-hop-squares-with-rap-stars-on-mtv2.html
Or maybe just a direct link to page 2:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/arts/television/hip-hop-squares-with-rap-stars-on-mtv2.html?pagewanted=2
-M
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I am impressed that they got a few staffers from Bergeron's version. That makes me very confident.
Parts of the article give me the impression that some of the stars (maybe just one or two, no biggie there) are just there to collect a check, but overall it sounds like they had fun. The show sounds like it's in good hands.
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Or maybe just a direct link to page 2:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/arts/television/hip-hop-squares-with-rap-stars-on-mtv2.html?pagewanted=2
This helped a lot, thanks!
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I completely forgot to mention, on the left side of the page is a link to a cool additional four minute video accompaniment to the story, with clips from the show and backstage comments. (Direct link to the video at their video site here (http://video.nytimes.com/video/2012/04/19/arts/television/100000001499612/hip-hop-to-be-square.html?ref=television). I'm looking forward to this.
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This may be worth a watch. I was scared how MTV may bastardize the show, but I am pretty impressed with what I saw.
Hopefully if this goes well, it will get picked up for more than 20 shows.
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Hell, by letting the stars get their drank on during the taping, it might be the most faithful revival yet.
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Hell, by letting the stars get their drank on during the taping, it might be the most faithful revival yet.
or their smoke on.
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Is it just me, or are the squares oblong?
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Is it just me, or are the squares oblong?
Yes, it appears the board was built with a 16x9 aspect ratio in mind. Welcome to 2012, I say.
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Having just seen the first ep, I'm pleased with the results.
- I came in expecting to know less than half the people, and that was the case. I recognized a few names, but for all I know, some of these are the Hip-Hop equivalent of Teresa Ganzel and Henry Polic II.
- The material was an interesting mix, much like we saw on the original series.
- The "Can I watch it with my parents" factor wasn't too bad. They had a question about the shape of "a pig's junk", and their version of the Secret Square is called the G-Spot, but they censored other things.
- The prize budget is small, but I didn't have a problem with that. The end game is a single question worth $2,500.
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their version of the Secret Square is called the G-Spot.
Which was a terrific pun, given the prize.
The prize budget is actually more than what your run of the mill GSN show would give away.
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I was impressed with what I saw, and I will definitely continue to tune in. The "guess which of the three celebs out of the row you picked is not bluffing" bonus round is neat, as well.
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For their demo, they had a good stable of stars. I'm glad they strayed away from question-bad joke-real answer responses and let the stars do their own thing. And I'm glad MGK was given a couple bumps before the taping started.
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I like this version Squares enough that I want to watch more. I couldn't think of a single highlight from one particular celeb, but the atmosphere did not drag the show down. What I saw is a relevant-to-the-young'uns, but faithful revival of a classic format. Thankfully MTV2 has the premiere episode up (http://"http://www.mtv.com/videos/hip-hop-squares-ep-1-mac-miller/1685602/playlist.jhtml").
My review (http://"http://redheadedmule.com/2012/05/fun-with-the-hip-hop-squares/") with my thoughts, pics, and an embed of the 1st episode. Within are some details about the episode (mild spoilers?), but nothing that determines the outcome of the game.
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Didn't catch the full episode, but it looked pretty well-done. Pacing was awkward at times, but still flowed pretty well. I'd say this is a pretty good revival.
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My takes in a nutshell...
\ At the risk of being labeled an old fuddy duddy, I didn't recognize the first panelist on Tuesday's debut. Even with that, and a gripe I brought up over the stars being in *rectangles* instead of *squares*, I was surprisingly impressed by the debut.
\ Peter Rosenberg seemed a bit robotic -- asking a civilian player if (s)he (dis)agrees with a particular star's answer seemingly every time.
\ The stakes are alarmingly low compared to MTV's "The Substitute" (either the entire class splits $5000 or one player takes all the money; this as opposed to the $2500 bonus round).
...even with the problems, HHS provided a fun atmosphere. If they can turn negatives into positives going forward, I wouldn't be surprised if this lasted six seasons.
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I know I am getting old when I do not know any of the stars. LOL
I think they did a good job on this overall. The pacing should get better once they have a few shows under their belt.
I forgot, is this a weekly show?
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\ The stakes are alarmingly low compared to MTV's "The Substitute" (either the entire class splits $5000 or one player takes all the money; this as opposed to the $2500 bonus round).
Everyone who complains about the money has forgotten that rounds are for $500, the G-Spot for $1,000, and the bonus game can take you well over $5,000 all up.
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Everyone who complains about the money has forgotten that rounds are for $500, the G-Spot for $1,000, and the bonus game can take you well over $5,000 all up.
In order for that to happen, they have to finish three complete games. Unless they can get hold of MGK's meth dealer to take care of the rest of the on-air talent, seems unlikely. :)
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\ The stakes are alarmingly low compared to MTV's "The Substitute" (either the entire class splits $5000 or one player takes all the money; this as opposed to the $2500 bonus round).
Everyone who complains about the money has forgotten that rounds are for $500, the G-Spot for $1,000, and the bonus game can take you well over $5,000 all up.
MTV's recent spate of game shows never were about the cash money, really. Silent Library got up to maybe $6,000?
Saw the ep online, thought it did what it needed to do, and even a muggle like me found things to enjoy. This is definitely going to be Not For Everyone, but it's not bad by any stretch.
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Everyone who complains about the money has forgotten that rounds are for $500, the G-Spot for $1,000, and the bonus game can take you well over $5,000 all up.
Yeah, but still, for a *weekly* series, these payoffs are awfully weak. (Pun intended.)
In the weekly syndicated version from "The (original) Hollywood Squares", the high scorer of the episode was assured of driving home in a new car. Compare that to HHS's bonus round grand prize -- which equals a down payment on a new car.
If the cash can't improve, I'd recommend HHS offer up a prize package, including a nice trip and concert tickets, in the bonus round.
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It is MTV. They are on cable. The focus is obviously on the game and not making it rain hundys upon the champion.
Deal.
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I did get a kick out of Pete telling the lovely "Miss Circle" that she could win some money to help pay the costs at Columbia. I thought to myself, "Yeah, $2,500 would really do it." ;-)
However, I think the payout's fine for a cable game show, history notwithstanding. If it were being done for syndication, I'd cry foul, and even though GSN's even given away more in recent years, I find no major issues with the payout. I'd much rather have the $2,500 than the trips that so many other cable games offer.
One other question, does the runner up keep his or her money as consolation? I imagine you win a round and the money's yours to keep regardless.
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One other question, does the runner up keep his or her money as consolation? I imagine you win a round and the money's yours to keep regardless.
And to that end why would you bother with $100 for each mark at the end of an abandoned game if that money isn't getting paid out?
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One other question, does the runner up keep his or her money as consolation? I imagine you win a round and the money's yours to keep regardless.
And to that end why would you bother with $100 for each mark at the end of an abandoned game if that money isn't getting paid out?
I forgot about that too. I guess I'm so used to seeing contestants given no more than Lots of Love(tm) that I just expect to see it on any game show post-2000. :-P
/It would be pretty dang shady to take back money you win from an earlier round
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and not making it rain hundys upon the champion.
The northwest corner and Lil' Wayne see what you did there. (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_asu7n6QUc&hd=1")
/with an uncredited appearance from the northeast corner as well!
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It is MTV. They are on cable. The focus is obviously on the game and not making it rain hundys upon the champion.
Deal.
Ironically, this is probably their most expensive game show to produce.
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Well, clearly somebody liked it. It was the most watched (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/05/23/mtv2s-premiere-of-hip-hop-squares-delivers-highest-rated-and-most-watched-original-series-debut-ever/135592/) premiere in the 12-34 demographic (exactly who they're trying to corner, I'm sure) in MTV2's history.
The episode is available to view on MTV.com (http://www.mtv.com/shows/hip_hop_squares/series.jhtml) for anyone who cares to see it and didn't.
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One other question, does the runner up keep his or her money as consolation? I imagine you win a round and the money's yours to keep regardless.
And to that end why would you bother with $100 for each mark at the end of an abandoned game if that money isn't getting paid out?
I don't think any incarnation of Squares has not given the losing player the money in front of them. At its worst, a losing player is paid seven or eight hundred, so I don't see an issue in paying them what they've earned.
Keep in mind that Rock and Roll Jeopardy paid out $5k per show, but the game was still good. You don't need to give away a whole lot of money to have a great show. Plus, should the ratings be good, the second or third season could see a bump up in the prize budget.
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I don't think any incarnation of Squares has not given the losing player the money in front of them. At its worst, a losing player is paid seven or eight hundred, so I don't see an issue in paying them what they've earned.
Yep, all contestants get the money in front of them.
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Well, clearly somebody liked it. It was the most watched (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/05/23/mtv2s-premiere-of-hip-hop-squares-delivers-highest-rated-and-most-watched-original-series-debut-ever/135592/) premiere in the 12-34 demographic (exactly who they're trying to corner, I'm sure) in MTV2's history.
The episode is available to view on MTV.com (http://www.mtv.com/shows/hip_hop_squares/series.jhtml) for anyone who cares to see it and didn't.
I'm on the shy side of 39, didn't recognize the first panelist, kinda sorta "knew of" Peter's work in radio and yet I ended up enjoying HHS (even with my previous gripes on the stars being in rectangles, the low payoffs, etc.).
With this being a weekly series, I wouldn't be surprised if the debut season were in the can by now. Regardless, the suits will have to ask each other, "How do we move HHS forward?"
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Well, clearly somebody liked it. It was the most watched (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/05/23/mtv2s-premiere-of-hip-hop-squares-delivers-highest-rated-and-most-watched-original-series-debut-ever/135592/) premiere in the 12-34 demographic (exactly who they're trying to corner, I'm sure) in MTV2's history.
The episode is available to view on MTV.com (http://www.mtv.com/shows/hip_hop_squares/series.jhtml) for anyone who cares to see it and didn't.
I'm on the shy side of 39, didn't recognize the first panelist, kinda sorta "knew of" Peter's work in radio and yet I ended up enjoying HHS (even with my previous gripes on the stars being in rectangles, the low payoffs, etc.).
With this being a weekly series, I wouldn't be surprised if the debut season were in the can by now. Regardless, the suits will have to ask each other, "How do we move HHS forward?"
I'm pretty sure they are done taping for now. My sister-in-law works for Viacom/MTV and seem to recall her mentioning this to me.
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Just caught episode 1 via DVR. Quick thoughts:
They seemed to have captured the "everyone's had a drink or two" vibe of a club in the panel. That was a good thing for most of the celebrities (I'm looking at you, MGK).
Between leaving in the square-switching antics at the top of the show and the slow transitions in and out of breaks, it felt like the game itself ran a little shorter than planned. I would rather have seen another question or two in that time, but I'm pleasantly surprised that, in this age of editing everything to death, a match would end mid-game rather than playing a fixed number of games and editing to fit them into the time available. While they were at the board, the Q&A had a very natural-seeming (if not particularly fast) pace. No unnecessary tension, no obvious edits for time (or anything else; it felt pretty live-to-tape).
I liked handing over the stack of cash for the G spot. It felt a little old school in a very good way.
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They seemed to have captured the "everyone's had a drink or two" vibe of a club in the panel. That was a good thing for most of the celebrities (I'm looking at you, MGK).
MGK's intake for the night seemed to have included much more than liquid refreshments. It looks like he was auditioning for Junkie #2 on Breaking Bad.
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I liked handing over the stack of cash for the G spot. It felt a little old school in a very good way.
I didn't pay much attention to that, but you're right. It makes me think of The Joker's Wild, even though it's more similar to the Terminator on Greed.
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For those still looking for parallels to previous versions, on last night's episode the show's announcer DJ Ms. Nix was a panelist with turntables and all in the bottom center square, similar to Shadoe Stevens in the 80s.
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For those still looking for parallels to previous versions, on last night's episode the show's announcer DJ Ms. Nix was a panelist with turntables and all in the bottom center square, similar to Shadoe Stevens in the 80s.
Oh, good call. Gives her more camera time (theoretically) and adds a female to the panel. Win-win.
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Oh, good call. Gives her more camera time (theoretically) and adds a female to the panel. Win-win.
Saves them a few bucks, too. One less star to book.
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Oh, good call. Gives her more camera time (theoretically) and adds a female to the panel. Win-win.
Saves them a few bucks, too. One less star to book.
Seems to me that it'd be common sense to make this permanent. Always book eight celebs instead of nine, and always have a good-looking lady playing. For their demographic, that's perfect.
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Seems to me that it'd be common sense to make this permanent. Always book eight celebs instead of nine, and always have a good-looking lady playing. For their demographic, that's perfect.
I'm inclined to agree. Time will tell if this ends up being the case.
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Saves them a few bucks, too. One less star to book.
Oog, I could barely make it through her introductions to the main game.
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Oog, I could barely make it through her introductions to the main game.
Oh, she's not a great announcer. But then, that's not the vibe they're going for.
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Oog, I could barely make it through her introductions to the main game.
Oh, she's not a great announcer. But then, that's not the vibe they're going for.
I doubt the male audience in the demographic they're trying to get are paying attention to her announcing skills.
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Oog, I could barely make it through her introductions to the main game.
Oh, she's not a great announcer. But then, that's not the vibe they're going for.
I doubt the male audience in the demographic they're trying to get are paying attention to her announcing skills.
Exactly.
(I'm on the far side of their target demographic...yeah, she's hot.)
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Finally watched a couple of eps. online, and I must say I'm impressed...let's face it, the game show elements of old-school Squares were just a backdrop for the comedy and banter between the celebs, and they didn't mess with that formula here.
I recognized more of the names on the panel than I thought, esp. Childish Gambino, since he's also an actor on my favorite sitcom, Community (under his real name, Donald Glover). Since he has a background in comedy as well as music, I hope he comes back to do more shows...he seemed to be having a lot of fun.
Something I realized as I watched...is the first time a version of Squares has ever originated from the East Coast?
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Finally watched a couple of eps. online, and I must say I'm impressed...let's face it, the game show elements of old-school Squares were just a backdrop for the comedy and banter between the celebs, and they didn't mess with that formula here.
I recognized more of the names on the panel than I thought, esp. Childish Gambino, since he's also an actor on my favorite sitcom, Community (under his real name, Donald Glover). Since he has a background in comedy as well as music, I hope he comes back to do more shows...he seemed to be having a lot of fun.
Something I realized as I watched...is the first time a version of Squares has ever originated from the East Coast?
No, a number of episodes of previous versions were done in Florida and NYC.
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Finally watched a couple of eps. online, and I must say I'm impressed...let's face it, the game show elements of old-school Squares were just a backdrop for the comedy and banter between the celebs, and they didn't mess with that formula here.
I recognized more of the names on the panel than I thought, esp. Childish Gambino, since he's also an actor on my favorite sitcom, Community (under his real name, Donald Glover). Since he has a background in comedy as well as music, I hope he comes back to do more shows...he seemed to be having a lot of fun.
Something I realized as I watched...is the first time a version of Squares has ever originated from the East Coast?
No, a number of episodes of previous versions were done in Florida and NYC.
But those series all originated from Hollywood. I don't think that's what he was asking.
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But those series all originated from Hollywood. I don't think that's what he was asking.
No, it was. I knew Davidson HS went on location a few times, but wasn't sure where...now I know.
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Finally caught an episode of this last night. Well, young and hip aren't synonymous with witty and entertaining! Every time a contestant called a square's name, there was an ovation. Every time a square was awarded to a contestant, there was an ovation. When asked a question, the square's first response was often, "I cain't believe you axed me dat (sic)." When it was over a paltry fourteen questions had been asked.
On the plus side, I did like the set and graphics. Three-in-a-row has gone back to flashing its status rather than the peculiar blinking from the previous version. Closing credits showed the winning contestant meeting with some of the celebrities (nice touch!).
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I also recently saw it for the first time, and I agree. It seemed like there was hardly any actual game there - half way through the second game time was already up. Probably at least three celebrities (most of which I've never heard of) weren't even called.
Oh well. It's still nice to see an updated version of this.
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When asked a question, the square's first response was often, "I cain't believe you axed me dat (sic)."
Seriously?
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May I humbly suggest that if you are watching Hip Hop Squares (or any incarnation of HS, for that matter) for the gameplay and scintillating trivia facts, you 1) are watching for the wrong reasons and 2) would be far better served just watching a Tic Tac Dough rerun?
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An average episode of Hollywood Squares in the Peter Marshall prime-time era had something like 20 to 30 questions. Three or four full games were played, and Kenny would rattle off all the prizes in the Secret Square stash three times a show. Back then, there was the right balance of game and show.
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Finally caught an episode of this last night. Well, young and hip aren't synonymous with witty and entertaining! Every time a contestant called a square's name, there was an ovation. Every time a square was awarded to a contestant, there was an ovation. When asked a question, the square's first response was often, "I cain't believe you axed me dat (sic)." When it was over a paltry fourteen questions had been asked.
I don't know how many Davidson and Bergeron asked per show, but it seems 14 is about 4 or 5 per round. Keep in mind you're watching MTV, which shows quite a few commercials, so 14 sounds pretty good with all the banter and ads. As for the "ovations", Bergeron and Davidson's versions both used that.
I get that you don't like a lot of current shows for one reason or another, and I don't necessarily disagree. But here, I think you have a pretty faithful revival, altered for a much different demographic. The stuff you're complaining about is minute IMO.
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An average episode of Hollywood Squares in the Peter Marshall prime-time era had something like 20 to 30 questions. Three or four full games were played, and Kenny would rattle off all the prizes in the Secret Square stash three times a show. Back then, there was the right balance of game and show.
They also had a good 3 or 4 minutes more content to work with. Nowadays, a show only gets about 20-22 minutes per half hour (prolly the lower side of that with MTV), which is why 14 questions actually sounds pretty impressive to me.
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An average episode of Hollywood Squares in the Peter Marshall prime-time era had something like 20 to 30 questions.
In 22 to 24 minutes of content? I think I'm gonna call shenanigans on that.
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In prime time, he qualified. They tended to race more after the secret square games.
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In prime time, he qualified. They tended to race more after the secret square games.
I also remember Merrill Heatter saying in one of the game show books (Come On Down maybe?) that he was concerned after watching an episode, and only counting 11 or so questions. He implemented some changes, and shows started going for twice that. Whether that was primetime or daytime, I dunno.
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In prime time, he qualified. They tended to race more after the secret square games.
I also remember Merrill Heatter saying in one of the game show books (Come On Down maybe?) that he was concerned after watching an episode, and only counting 11 or so questions. He implemented some changes, and shows started going for twice that. Whether that was primetime or daytime, I dunno.
That particular anecdote (http://"http://www.curtalliaume.com/squares.html") is provided here.