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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: dmota104 on October 09, 2003, 01:07:42 PM
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To the best of my knowledge, \"Check Out\" is the only pricing game in TPiR's history to be retired -- and then brought back into the rotation.
Which game from the past would you like to see back up and running in the Bob Barker studio?
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[quote name=\'dmota104\' date=\'Oct 9 2003, 12:07 PM\'] To the best of my knowledge, "Check Out" is the only pricing game in TPiR's history to be retired -- and then brought back into the rotation.
Which game from the past would you like to see back up and running in the Bob Barker studio? [/quote]
Take Superball out of Bob Boden's garage, and place it back in Studio 33.
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I heard that Three Strikes was retired for a while and then brought back, but I could be wrong about that.
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Even though they both broke down a lot, I'd like to see both Hurdles and Super Saver back in the mix. I think today's technology could allow for them to create new game boards that function without breaking down all the time.
Rob
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[quote name=\'TraderRob\' date=\'Oct 9 2003, 02:33 PM\'] Even though they both broke down a lot, I'd like to see both Hurdles and Super Saver back in the mix. I think today's technology could allow for them to create new game boards that function without breaking down all the time.
Rob [/quote]
Clock Game John from golden-road.net (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net\") has it on good authority that $uper $aver's retirement had nothing to do with the game malfunctioning. Unfortunately, he's not at liberty to divulge what was the reason.
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[quote name=\'dmota104\' date=\'Oct 9 2003, 12:07 PM\'] To the best of my knowledge, "Check Out" is the only pricing game in TPiR's history to be retired -- and then brought back into the rotation.
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Check Out disappeared for a year, and then was revived with the current 1.00 either way range rather than 50 cents needed to win.
Pick a Pair disappeared for about three years and returned in 1990 with the simpler current setup as opposed to the Ferris Wheel setup.
I didn't see this, but as per a post in ATGS several years back, Make Your Move reportedly was played once or twice in 1986 before its return as a regularly played game in 1989. The 1986 format had a board of nine numbers as we see now, but with TWO three digit prizes and one four digit prizes, and one of the digits was to be used TWICE.
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[quote name=\'TV Favorites\' date=\'Oct 9 2003, 12:54 PM\'] I heard that Three Strikes was retired for a while and then brought back, but I could be wrong about that. [/quote]
If it disappeared for a while, it could have been due to budget reasons(as the game is now played for a high-end car, which was not the case in the 70s and most of the 80s). One season(1994-95 I think) saw that and Golden ROad not played for the last third of the season due to budget reasons. There was a gap of several months that 3 Strikes was not played just before the change to the \"one strike in the bag\" rule.
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Golden-road.net was recently contacted by an anonymous someone who's been able to give us the premiere date of every pricing game since about 1981, so I think it's now safe to say that the legendary 1986 playing of Make Your Move is nothing more than a myth.
As for 3 Strikes, there was a period in Season 26 where it wasn't played for 13 weeks. When it returned at the end of May, the \"one strike in the bag\" rule had been instituted.
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I still miss Penny Ante, malfunctions and all.
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I miss Super Ball too.
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I was gonna say \"Bump,\" but then I might be accused of trying to keep this thread at the top of the topic list.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Oct 9 2003, 08:32 PM\'] I still miss Penny Ante, malfunctions and all. [/quote]
Actually, Penny Ante is technically not retired, even though it wasn't played all last season. The staff had decided to retire it at one point, but they later reconsidered; unfortunately, after the initial decision was made, the board was put outside, and before they changed their minds, it rained. The game may still come back at some point, but if it does, they're going to have to build a new prop.
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I would like to see Penny Ante and Walk of Fame return.
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Bullseye I!!!! (ducks)
Seriously, it would be nice to see Penny Ante again. And you know what, I didn't think Double Digits was a bad concept... just a confusing setup.
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I want to see Split Decision come back. For no other reason, it was one of the few games in which Bob regularly showed some temper at contestants who didn't act with some semblance or order. I frequently heard him yell at the person \"ring the bell\" after they moved the number tiles. One time, you saw a definitely mad Bob push the button stopping the clock himself when the player kept jumping around looking into the audience.
Fortune Hunter also had good play along value.
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[Penny Ante] may still come back at some point, but if it does, they're going to have to build a new prop.
Considering how budget-minded Fremantle is, if Penny Ante does come back, there's a chance that the new prop won't be as elaborate as the old one.
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Seriously, it would be nice to see Penny Ante again. And you know what, I didn't think Double Digits was a bad concept... just a confusing setup.
I kind of agree with you about the Double Digits. However, \"Temptation\" is the reincarnated version of \"Double Digits.\" Something good did come out of that.
I enjoyed Superball and Penny Ante. I would have one of those games replace \"On the Spot.\" I also liked the \"Shell Game.\" Those were fun and should be seen back in rotation.
The Inquisitive One
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[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Oct 10 2003, 12:43 AM\'] I also liked the "Shell Game." [/quote]
Uh, Shell Game's not retired...
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[quote name=\'TraderRob\' date=\'Oct 9 2003, 01:33 PM\'] Even though they both broke down a lot, I'd like to see both Hurdles and Super Saver back in the mix. I think today's technology could allow for them to create new game boards that function without breaking down all the time.
Rob [/quote]
For some reason, I have a feeling if Hurdles came back, Bob wouldn't be using that starter pistol. It's just something about our ultra uptight, PC country that tells me a parental council would be all over CBS, esp. on a show that airs in the mornings.
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Uh, Shell Game's not retired...
Really? Forgive me. When most of my schooling time takes place during the time that TPiR is on, it is hard to keep tabs anymore.
The Inquisitive One
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Perhaps after a couple of downpours the Penny Ante game will come back in perfect alignment and function properly.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Oct 9 2003, 07:04 PM\']$uper $aver's retirement had nothing to do with the game malfunctioning.[/quote]
Bob wanted it gone
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 10 2003, 12:21 AM\'] For some reason, I have a feeling if Hurdles came back, Bob wouldn't be using that starter pistol. It's just something about our ultra uptight, PC country that tells me a parental council would be all over CBS, esp. on a show that airs in the mornings. [/quote]
Aren't most game shows politically incorrect by their very nature? After all, they have winners and--gasp--losers! Just think what must happen to a person's self-esteem when he spins $5,000 on WoF and chooses a vowel.
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Given the ratings and the factor of the audience still beating down the doors to get on the show, I think we could be due for a return of the \"Phone Home Game\", which I still believe to this day was an ingenious concept. :-)
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Oct 10 2003, 02:22 PM\']the factor of the audience still beating down the doors to get on the show[/quote]
Not during the fall.
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SuperBall was cool, but seemed too complicated. I think it would help if they moved away from the each ball = a prize idea. Play for a certain score, as in real Skee-Ball. Or play for one big prize, any ball in the middle hole wins it (the more balls you earn, the better your chances).
Does anybody recall if the center \"win\" hole was bigger in SuperBall than it would be on a typical Skee-Ball lane? Statistics might not bear this out, but the game always seemed too hard.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Oct 10 2003, 01:58 PM\'] Does anybody recall if the center "win" hole was bigger in SuperBall than it would be on a typical Skee-Ball lane? Statistics might not bear this out, but the game always seemed too hard. [/quote]
It was prolly the size of a 30-point hole, which was the center of the bullseye. The 50-point hole at the top of a Skee-Ball target is usually only a teeny bit bigger than a single ball. You gotta hit it dead-on. At 30 there is a little more leeway.
Also I think the balls used in Super Ball were somewhat smaller than regular Skee-Balls...they struck me as being pool-ball sized, and a Skee-Ball is usually larger than a baseball.
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Oct 10 2003, 01:22 PM\'] Given the ratings and the factor of the audience still beating down the doors to get on the show, I think we could be due for a return of the "Phone Home Game", which I still believe to this day was an ingenious concept. :-) [/quote]
Certainly, but it'd have to be called the E-mail Home Game now. Have TPIR get into the computer age and do the game via e-mail exchanges, of course that would be too complicated for some of the contestants on the show, but it's a nice thought.
Why did PHG leave TPIR in the late 80s anyway(it ran concurrently with the Play ALong promotion at one point). For those who don't recall, one pricing game on some episodes was a Play Along game, meaning someone at home would win whatever prizes the contestant won in that pricing game(and a Play Along T-shirt if the contestant won nothing). Sometimes they did this for the Showcase Showdown, and they would have three postcards drawn. They'd read one name at the outset, and if someone won $1K on the WHeel, the home player would and they'd draw another postcard who would win money if someone else won $1K. Home players also won whatever money was won in Bonus Spins, if any.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Oct 10 2003, 06:25 PM\']
Certainly, but it'd have to be called the E-mail Home Game now. Have TPIR get into the computer age and do the game via e-mail exchanges, of course that would be too complicated for some of the contestants on the show, but it's a nice thought.
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The only red flag I see in that plan is that if I get an email from someone I don't know telling me that I can win big in the next 5 minutes I'm inclined to delete it.
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Oct 10 2003, 01:22 PM\']Given the ratings and the factor of the audience still beating down the doors to get on the show, I think we could be due for a return of the \"Phone Home Game\", which I still believe to this day was an ingenious concept. :-)[/quote]
Too hard to control the home contestant, especially when one prize was missed (the home player had to remember that there were now two prices that couldn't be mentioned.)
But speaking of bringing things back, why not bring back the Home Viewer Showcases? True, there's a couple of weeks' worth of episodes you can't show in reruns (obviously, an episode that opens with a mention of the HVS can't be repeated on CBS), but who wouldn't want to see (okay, hear) someone win over $100,000 worth of stuff for one postcard (or E-mail, although that would be a little easy to rig by having computer programs to send off multiple E-mails with prices that increase by a penny a pop)?
-- Don
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Take Superball out of Bob Boden's garage, and place it back in Studio 33.
Amen, Brother Herbert.
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I'd like to see \"Plinko\" thrown back into the rotation.
Oh, it wasn't retired??
Seriously...
One game I've always liked is the game where Johnny O. started off booming, \"TWO New Cars!!!\"....It's Optional.
Of course, a good bit of the \"optional\" items they had to pick are now standard in cars. Could the game be updated for the 21st century?
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Oct 10 2003, 10:03 PM\']But speaking of bringing things back, why not bring back the Home Viewer Showcases? True, there's a couple of weeks' worth of episodes you can't show in reruns (obviously, an episode that opens with a mention of the HVS can't be repeated on CBS), but who wouldn't want to see (okay, hear) someone win over $100,000 worth of stuff for one postcard (or E-mail, although that would be a little easy to rig by having computer programs to send off multiple E-mails with prices that increase by a penny a pop)?
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The reason the home viewer showcases are no longer done is this...
Years ago they had a home viewer showcase. Turns out that 2 people had bid exactly the same total. The winner was picked either randomly or from the first postcard picked with the earliest postmark date. The loser, obviously not happy, sued claiming that he/she should have won.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Oct 11 2003, 08:48 AM\'] The reason the home viewer showcases are no longer done is this...
Years ago they had a home viewer showcase. Turns out that 2 people had bid exactly the same total. The winner was picked either randomly or from the first postcard picked with the earliest postmark date. The loser, obviously not happy, sued claiming that he/she should have won. [/quote]
That seems a very unlikely reason for them to stop doing a Home Viewer Showcase altogether. Surely they had rules that covered what they would do in case of a tie, and followed those rules to find their winner. A loser is always going to be unhappy and, unfortunately, sometimes unhappy people sue. That just comes with the territory.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 11 2003, 11:22 AM\'] [quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Oct 11 2003, 08:48 AM\'] The reason the home viewer showcases are no longer done is this...
Years ago they had a home viewer showcase. Turns out that 2 people had bid exactly the same total. The winner was picked either randomly or from the first postcard picked with the earliest postmark date. The loser, obviously not happy, sued claiming that he/she should have won. [/quote]
That seems a very unlikely reason for them to stop doing a Home Viewer Showcase altogether. Surely they had rules that covered what they would do in case of a tie, and followed those rules to find their winner. A loser is always going to be unhappy and, unfortunately, sometimes unhappy people sue. That just comes with the territory. [/quote]
This is what I was told when I asked.
It probably wasn't worth the hassle.
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Then why don't they adopt the rules for the Home Viewer Showcase used on Cullen TPiR, where each individual item is listed on the postcard, with the total bid as well, and the items in order are used as the tiebreaker in the even of a tie on the total bid, that was a fair way to do that.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 11 2003, 10:22 AM\'] [quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Oct 11 2003, 08:48 AM\'] The reason the home viewer showcases are no longer done is this...
Years ago they had a home viewer showcase. Turns out that 2 people had bid exactly the same total. The winner was picked either randomly or from the first postcard picked with the earliest postmark date. The loser, obviously not happy, sued claiming that he/she should have won. [/quote]
That seems a very unlikely reason for them to stop doing a Home Viewer Showcase altogether. Surely they had rules that covered what they would do in case of a tie, and followed those rules to find their winner. A loser is always going to be unhappy and, unfortunately, sometimes unhappy people sue. That just comes with the territory. [/quote]
Just ask Maurice Clarrett. He's suing someone else now...to keep this GS-on topic...I believe Ohio State was on Sports Challenge.
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Oct 11 2003, 09:31 PM\'] Then why don't they adopt the rules for the Home Viewer Showcase used on Cullen TPiR, where each individual item is listed on the postcard, with the total bid as well, and the items in order are used as the tiebreaker in the even of a tie on the total bid, that was a fair way to do that. [/quote]
Theoretically, if you're going to be correct to the penny on an elaborate, multi-item Showcase, then all your prices for each individual item are probably going to match the other guy's. I'm surprised that didn't become an issue on Cullen's show.
Of course, Cullen's version eventually moved away from their Showcases (probably tiring of having ties every time) and started doing Sweepstakes in which five cards were drawn at random, and the closest bid of just those five won the goodies.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Oct 11 2003, 06:54 AM\'] I'd like to see "Plinko" thrown back into the rotation.
Oh, it wasn't retired??
Seriously...
One game I've always liked is the game where Johnny O. started off booming, "TWO New Cars!!!"....It's Optional.
Of course, a good bit of the "optional" items they had to pick are now standard in cars. Could the game be updated for the 21st century? [/quote]
Yes, easily. Instead uf using option packages, just use prizes that can be used in cars like
Portable DVD Players.
Portable Gaming Systems like the PSOne and Game Boy Advance
Laptops
Car Stereos
Dashboard Tv's
The list goes on.
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Oct 10 2003, 09:03 PM\']but who wouldn't want to see (okay, hear) someone win over $100,000 worth of stuff for one postcard[/quote]
*raises hand*
They were having 4,567-way ties back in the SIXTIES. Even more so today, with the Internet and all, every winner's going to be someone who can research prices and is luckier than several thousand other people.
But, then, I'm the freak who thinks they should change the normal showcases.
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\']I'm surprised that didn't become an issue on Cullen's show.[/quote]
The one enjoyable thing about the Cullen-era home viewer showcases was the smirk Bill would employ when pointing out that the \"individual prices tiebreaker\" had reduced the field from 4,567 viewers to a mere 4,368.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 11 2003, 08:22 AM\'] [quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Oct 11 2003, 08:48 AM\'] The reason the home viewer showcases are no longer done is this...
Years ago they had a home viewer showcase. Turns out that 2 people had bid exactly the same total. The winner was picked either randomly or from the first postcard picked with the earliest postmark date. The loser, obviously not happy, sued claiming that he/she should have won. [/quote]
That seems a very unlikely reason for them to stop doing a Home Viewer Showcase altogether. Surely they had rules that covered what they would do in case of a tie, and followed those rules to find their winner. A loser is always going to be unhappy and, unfortunately, sometimes unhappy people sue. That just comes with the territory. [/quote]
That's not going to stop a disgruntled loser from suing even though they don't have a case, and that requires MGP/CBS to devote legal resources to defending themselves. Unlike a studio contestant they don't have a signed release they can show in court which binds the home player to the rules and which indemnifies the production company/CBS.
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Personally, of the retired games, the one I'd most wanna bring back is Walk of Fame. Always just seemed like a fun game to play. Plus, you got to keep the autograph book. (Did they give you one if you didn't need one during the course of the game, as a souvenier?)
Wouldn't Phone Home Game, in the Play Along promotion, get a tad confusing?
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Wouldn't Phone Home Game, in the Play Along promotion, get a tad confusing?
It was never used as a Play Along game during that period of time.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")