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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: jimlangefan on March 11, 2016, 11:29:32 AM
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Most of you know by now that BUZZR is doing a Game Show bracket as their answer to March Madness. I've attached the bracket below, hopefully it comes through okay, but I must say some of these are a tough call for me. So I figured I would bring it here and get your opinions on this as well. Could make for some very interesting discussion and of course the programming options would be an interesting discussion as well. Especially when you see who is on the bracket.
(http://buzzrplay.com/files/uploads/_BUZZR_Bracket.png)
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I find it unfortunate Jim Perry got stuck with Bob Barker.
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I find it unfortunate Jim Perry got stuck with Bob Barker.
But putting Bill against Mr. Let's-schmooze-with-the-celebs-for-five-minutes-then-blow-three-puzzles makes it easier on that side (plus the literal sibling rivalry above it).
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Seeing all the headshots of the emcees, I can't help but think of the "creepy" headshot of this game show personality:
https://youtu.be/hB9TanZindg?t=11m33s
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I find it unfortunate Jim Perry got stuck with Bob Barker.
I can think of no one more qualified to take Bob out in a first-round.
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I can think of no one more qualified to take Bob out in a first-round.
I agree, but I took one look at that bracket and, knowing what I do about the fan(boi) base, said "Tomarken v. Barker in the finals, bank on it." I think that was Mark's point...you could put Barker up against Jeebus Christ in a Who Could Turn Water Into Wine Better bracket and the Barker fans would come out of the woodwork to support their surrogate daddy.
I'd love to be wrong.
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At first I said "Joe Garagiola?" but forgot that he hosted To Tell the Truth for a while.
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At first I said "Joe Garagiola?" but forgot that he hosted To Tell the Truth for a while.
As well as "$ale of the Century"
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At first I said "Joe Garagiola?" but forgot that he hosted To Tell the Truth for a while.
As well as "$ale of the Century"
And let us not forget Joe Garagiola's Memory Game.
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And let us not forget Joe Garagiola's Memory Game.
No love for Strike it Rich? ;)
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This is excellent news that BUZZR has picked up three shows no one has heard of or cared about. My assumption was that these were all hosts of current programming on the channel.
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My assumption was that these were all hosts of current programming on the channel.
I think it's simpler than that: all of them, at some point, hosted a game show that's owned by Fremantle*. That's why Pat Sajak is an interesting inclusion for me, since as far as I know the only game show of his that falls under the Fremantle umbrella is the unsold Puzzlers.
I think the only host in the bracket who hasn't appeared on Buzzr programming yet is Barker: Sajak was on the debut week of Super Password, IIRC Eubanks has only appeared by way of some Trivia Trap clips Buzzr used in their Pick & Play Sweepstakes promos back in October, and everybody else either has a series currently on the schedule or one Buzzr pulled out for special programming (Joe Garagiola with He Said She Said, Allen Ludden with Password/Password Plus, Ray Combs with his era of Family Feud, and Jack Narz with Now You See It).
(*Or, heck, if you wanted to limit it further: all of them hosted a game show for Mark Goodson.)
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What?! No Bud Collyer?!?!
Maybe they're saving him for their "Monochrome Madness Tourney....."
Cordially,
Tammy
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I can think of no one more qualified to take Bob out in a first-round.
I agree, but I took one look at that bracket and, knowing what I do about the fan(boi) base, said "Tomarken v. Barker in the finals, bank on it." I think that was Mark's point...you could put Barker up against Jeebus Christ in a Who Could Turn Water Into Wine Better bracket and the Barker fans would come out of the woodwork to support their surrogate daddy.
I'd love to be wrong.
I mean, I know that a lot of game show "fans" have huddled around Buzzr since its inception, but I have to believe that the general public that also consumes Buzzr would probably get behind Barker simply because of his revered status in pop culture.
I'm thinking Barker and Trebek in the Final with Barker taking it all. I'd like to see Cullen make a deep run. We'll see if anybody has good taste. I wonder if Sajak makes a deep run, they'll pull out the Puzzlers pilot. That'd be neat. Not holding high hopes for Price making a surprise appearance if Barker wins.
And let us not forget Joe Garagiola's Memory Game.
No love for Strike it Rich? ;)
How about any love for the only other show of his the network as shown so far? He Said, She Said.
What?! No Bud Collyer?!?!
Seriously speaking, I'd love a smaller "old-timers" bracket to run concurrent or something. Include Daly, Moore, Allen, Collyer. Toss in Fadiman and RQL. Maybe even have Cullen in that one too!
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How about any love for the only other show of his the network as shown so far? He Said, She Said.
Cosign. It's a good show, and paved the way for a(n arguably) better one.
Seriously speaking, I'd love a smaller "old-timers" bracket to run concurrent or something. Include Daly, Moore, Allen, Collyer. Toss in Fadiman and RQL. Maybe even have Cullen in that one too!
How about Merv Griffin? I thought he did pretty well with Play Your Hunch and when he subbed for Collyer on To Tell The Truth. Dick Clark could technically be in there as well, since he did Missing Links in '64.
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Not holding high hopes for Price making a surprise appearance if Barker wins.
If anything, they will probably pull out one of the episodes of Tattletales when Bob was the guest emcee while Burt Convy was playing.
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Not holding high hopes for Price making a surprise appearance if Barker wins.
If anything, they will probably pull out one of the episodes of Tattletales when Bob was the guest emcee while Burt Convy was playing.
This is exactly what I'm expecting them to do.
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Has it explicitly been said that there will be a special airing of the winner's program?
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Currently listed for airing from 8 to 10 PM on March 22 are Let's Make a Deal and He Said, She Said (for Monty Hall vs. Joe Garagiola), plus Password Plus and Super Password (with Allen Ludden hosting Plus and Pat Sajak guesting on Super?).
March 23 has TattleTales and Card Sharks (with a Jim Perry Sharks and Bob Barker guest hosting or playing TattleTales?), plus Family Feud and Card Sharks (hosted by Richard Dawson and Bob Eubanks, presumably.)
March 24 has Match Game and Press Your Luck (for Gene Rayburn vs. Peter Tomarken), plus Body Language and Now You See It (for Tom Kennedy vs. Jack Narz).
March 25 has Double Dare and Family Feud (for Alex Trebek vs. Ray Combs), plus Blockbusters and Super Password (for Bill Cullen vs. Bert Convy).
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If Buzzr airs an episode of Bob Eubanks' Card Sharks in this March Madness-style event, I bet it will likely be from the non-car game era, most of which GSN last aired between 2010 and 2012.
As for Blockbusters, where's the love for Bill Rafferty?
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If Buzzr airs an episode of Bob Eubanks' Card Sharks in this March Madness-style event, I bet it will likely be from the non-car game era, most of which GSN last aired between 2010 and 2012.
If making a bracket weren't difficult enough, Jon's started with the proposition bets.
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If he deletes his post, lines go OFF and all bets are refunded.
/The house is offering +120 on that happening since you've made fun of him.
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If Buzzr airs an episode of Bob Eubanks' Card Sharks in this March Madness-style event, I bet it will likely be from the non-car game era, most of which GSN last aired between 2010 and 2012.
As for Blockbusters, where's the love for Bill Rafferty?
He's popular amongst the geeks here and that's about it. Maybe he gets a spot in the Play-In game, but I'm sure they're going for hosts that outside viewers even recognize.
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I noticed no Wink either, which the only fit on this channel would come from the week of Kennedy's P+ where he competed against Gene.
BTW, Chris, Tomarken in the finals? I know I'd like to see that, but I honestly feel he got a raw draw getting Gene in Round 1. Plenty of other tough calls here, too. Who knows where this will go? Let's just all be glad we're not putting money on this.
(You're not, are you?)
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(You're not, are you?)
I think you'd have to be certifiable to put down real money on something where the outcome is dependent on other people and totally out of your control.
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I think you'd have to be certifiable to put down real money on something where the outcome is dependent on other people and totally out of your control.
You've just described the entire sports betting business there, sir.
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I have a better idea about what the Mariners will do than what several hundred game shoe fans will do.
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BTW, Chris, Tomarken in the finals? I know I'd like to see that, but I honestly feel he got a raw draw getting Gene in Round 1. Plenty of other tough calls here, too. Who knows where this will go? Let's just all be glad we're not putting money on this.
(You're not, are you?)
That you read even this much into my comment cements my belief even further.
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I have a better idea about what the Mariners will do than what several hundred game shoe fans will do.
Same thing Kane does when he fires off his pyro before his match?
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As for Blockbusters, where's the love for Bill Rafferty?
I noticed no Wink either, which the only fit on this channel would come from the week of Kennedy's P+ where he competed against Gene.
They are all playing in the GSNIT -- the other bracket tourney that gets no respect anymore.
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GSNIT
Gesundheit.
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I have a better idea about what the Mariners will do than what several hundred game shoe fans will do.
Same thing Kane does when he fires off his pyro before his match?
Well spotted. Points.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omVSgopQaBo
March Madness is upon us and BUZZR wants in the game! The network is home to the most iconic game show hosts in history, and to celebrate March Madness they will be holding their own tournament of champions – BUZZR Brackets. Highlighting the most recognizable and cherished game show hosts throughout history, BUZZR talent has the uncanny ability to make deals, wrangle unruly celebrities and create catch phrases that become part of the American lexicon – “Survey Says!”
Beginning Tuesday, March 22nd, viewers will have the opportunity to cheer on the top 16 BUZZR game show hosts as they go head-to-head in the BUZZR Brackets tournament. Who’s got better game? Can Joe Garagiola’s contagious laugh triumph over Monty Hall’s matchmaking? Viewers can head to http://buzzrplay.com/files/uploads/_BUZZR_Bracket.png to download their very own BUZZR Bracket and set their picks.
The tournament line-up includes:
· Let’s Make A Deal – Monty Hall
· He Said, She Said – Joe Garagiola
· Password Plus – Allen Ludden
· Super Password – Bert Convy and special guest host Pat Sajak
· Tattletales – Bob Barker
· Card Sharks – Jim Perry, Bob Eubanks
· Family Feud – Richard Dawson, Ray Combs
· Match Game – Gene Rayburn
· Press Your Luck – Peter Tomarken
· Body Language – Tom Kennedy
· Now You See It – Jack Narz
· Double Dare – Alex Trebek
· Blockbusters – Bill Cullen
The tournament tips off at 8:00pm ET on Tuesday, March 22nd with continued coverage each weeknight. The competition wraps up when the two final hosts battle it out on Sunday, April 3rd at 8:00pm ET. Leading up to the finals, BUZZR will host a 14-hour marathon beginning at 6:00am ET on Sunday, April 3rd, recapping the various match-ups throughout the week.
Which host will make it to the championship, and who will witness an upset? Tune in to find out!
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That you read even this much into my comment cements my belief even further.
What belief? That Tomarken will make it to the end? The point I'm making is that pitted against Gene right at the start, I don't think he gets out of first round. Big deal that years ago when Connolly used to do that GS March Madness there was a PYL-Price championship. Means nothing now. Couple it with a certain best selling book right now, I really think I'm in the minority going for Peter right from the start.
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What kind of animal would have me choose a favorite Narz brother? The bracket fail without Dennis James anyway.
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I'm guessing Dennis is missing for the same reason as Wink: they don't have any of his shows.
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I'm guessing Dennis is missing for the same reason as Wink: they don't have any of his shows.
The Name's The Same would like a word with you.
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I stand corrected. But does that get as much exposure as say, Now You See It?
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I stand corrected. But does that get as much exposure as say, Now You See It?
Highly doubt it. Outside of Price, The Name's The Same is all they could really do for Dennis. Unless Fremantle happens to have the week he subbed for Monty on Let's Make A Deal, but I highly doubt that.
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So you say "The Name's the Same!" as to the answer of why they don't have any of his shows, but that it would be (far, far) less well known that "Now You See It". That's why Dennis James isn't in the bracket, Mother.
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That's why Dennis James isn't in the bracket, Mother.
Okay.
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So you say "The Name's the Same!" as to the answer of why they don't have any of his shows, but that it would be (far, far) less well known that "Now You See It". That's why Dennis James isn't in the bracket, Mother.
I mean it isn't only that, Dennis James' stuff hasn't been rerun much of anywhere ever. I assume GSN has shown some of his Name's The Same, but I really only remember RQL and Fadiman the most. I assume they also ran Bob & Ray at some point. None of his Price has been rerun outside of one (?) of the episodes where he subbed for Barker in daytime. Unlike all of these guys whose programs have been rerun, Dennis James has been virtually unheard from in terms of having a show of his regularly rerun, and that is a shame for someone who was a pioneer in television.
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I assume they also ran Bob & Ray at some point.
This is an accurate assumption.
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I assume they also ran Bob & Ray at some point.
This is an accurate assumption.
Until ACD realizes it's still there:
http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tnts.html
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What I'm curious about is, did Pat Sajak guest-host a full half-hour episode of Super Password, or was it something similar to Jack Narz trading spots with brother Tom Kennedy for the one game on Password Plus?
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So, I was operating on the assumption that these brackets had some sort of viewer vote element to them. Nope. There's just a segment at the end of the two hours which tells you who "won." Odd.
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If Buzzr is choosing the winners, then my disappointment will be even greater if Bill Cullen isn't named the grand champion.
Since the network didn't have Pat Sajak hosting a series, they just aired the first episode of Super Password, where he was a celebrity guest.
Tonight we get the first time Buzzr has aired an episode of Eubanks Card Sharks, as well as an episode of Tattletales to represent Bob Barker. After Sajak's representation, I'm not going to make any assumptions, but if it is one of the episodes that he hosted, is this going to be the first time that an episode of television hosted by Bob Barker has aired anywhere since 2007?
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He appeared on 'Price' nearly a year ago playing Lucky $even. Guesting and perhaps hosting.
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He appeared on 'Price' nearly a year ago playing Lucky $even. Guesting and perhaps hosting.
On April Fools Day of last year, Bob Barker came out the doors after being introduced as Drew. He hosted the first segment (Lucky Seven) ceding the reins over to Drew after the game and appearing in the showcases later.
If you want to count whole episodes, I suppose the question would be at what point did GSN stop airing Tattletales and if it were possible that they aired the episode he hosted sometime after 2007. Even so, it's still been a while.
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I understand Jim Perry "beat" Bob Barker in the brackets presumably because they've got nothing else of Barker hosting. Though they have got plenty of him being a panelist.
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I understand Jim Perry "beat" Bob Barker in the brackets presumably because they've got nothing else of Barker hosting. Though they have got plenty of him being a panelist.
Could be because Jim Perry's a better host, too.
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So who advanced, anyway?
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Coppin State in a stunner.
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<Like.>
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OK, back to the original question. Who did win, anyway?
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OK, back to the original question. Who did win, anyway?
They start the elite 8 tonight with Bert Convy over Bill Cullen.
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OK, back to the original question. Who did win, anyway?
On Tuesday, they aired LMAD 71 followed by a He Said She Said rerun from February's marathon. Hall won. Then, they aired P+ (from 7/4/79, aired on Buzzr 7/4/15), and the premiere of Super Password. Ludden won.
On Wednesday, they aired Tattletales from '76 hosted by Barker and an episode of Card Sharks from July '78. Perry won. Then they showed an ep of Dawson Feud from 80 and ep #31 of Card Sharks from '86. Dawson won.
On Thursday, they aired #1264 of MG78 followed by a '84 ep of PYL. Rayburn won. Then, they aired an ep of Body Language with Brothers/Garrett, and the '74 test show of NYSI that they showed last September. Narz won (!)? (I was half hoping Kennedy would win so that they might show a Wordplay ep, though it will be fun to see what of Narz's stuff they show. Is it stupid to hold out hope for Concentration?)
(Haven't watched this yet to confirm.) On Friday, they aired an ep of Double Dare and an ep of Combs Family Feud - the first half of the soap opera special they also showed in September. Trebek won. Then they showed an ep of Blockbusters and an ep of Super Password; Convy won.
It appears they are continuing this stunt from 8-10pm each night, repeating from 11p-1a and again from 2-4p the following day. On Saturday, I'm guessing they will air from 8-10pm and repeat it twice consecutively, but that is just a guess. The Sunday schedule is not available, though Zap2It shows E/I programming running from 10a-1p on Saturday, so it appears they will repeat chunks of this event from 6a-8p before somehow going into the finals.
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Then they showed an ep of Blockbusters and an ep of Super Password; Convy won.
I think this says all that needs to be said about this particular stunt. I'm not a huge Cullen fan by any means, but to advance an emcee who frequently loses control over his shows and makes multiple errors over a guy who could get mileage out of Blankety Blanks is ridiculous.
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Then they showed an ep of Blockbusters and an ep of Super Password; Convy won.
I think this says all that needs to be said about this particular stunt.
Note that anyone who put forth an idea of a fan vote basically made it up in their head. From what I read of the original poster there was no indication about anything other than "Here's hosts, here's some shows they hosted."
As a way to synergize with the college basketball it was fun enough. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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I guess Bill winning it all would be too easy.
I know he's "Dean of the Emcees", and like Mark said, he could make a terrible format enjoyable...that said, Bert had a few more longer-lasting hits (two of which air regularly on BUZZR), so there's that.
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Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and I want them to feel welcome to express it in the face of opposition, so here's my challenge to them: (and the point about what BUZZR has to air is a great one)
Watch an episode or three of Bill Cullen substitute hosting Password Plus, and however much you can stand of Bert Convy hosting Super Password, then report your thoughts. I cannot imagine that he goes from Tattletales on Friday to Super Password on Monday, other than the fact that Coolio wasn't answering his phone. Other than Super Password Bert's hosting jobs are all fluffy and unserious endeavors.
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OK, back to the original question. Who did win, anyway?
They start the elite 8 tonight with Bert Convy over Bill Cullen.
Actually, it's Hall vs. Ludden tonight. The P+ eps are from the Valentine's Day marathon (2/5/79 and 2/6/79), and I have no clue whether the LMAD eps were new to the net or not.
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Watching Super Password a bit, I'm struck by how proper and streamlined the set is, and how that contrasts with everyone on it having seemingly wandered on and deciding, "Oh, hey, let's play a game, I guess." Yes, Password is a parlor game, and Password Plus definitely has a casual feel; but something about Super Password crosses over from casual to sloppy, at least in my opinion. How much that has to do with the hosts of each, I honestly don't know.
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I know there's already a homework assignment out there about every illegal clue in the history of the End Game, but I think it would be more interesting to group Bert's errors (mechanical stuff is random and not Bert's fault) according to when in the game it happened. If Bert gives away the password or puzzle solution when it's the first quarter that's not terrible, but if there's forty grand in the jackpot and he bloops it in the $300 or $400 puzzle that's a different deal.
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Buzzr just got back to the start of John Goss' run this past Sunday, and they're showing the episodes immediately after his run tonight for the Brackets. Guess that means new $OTC coming through in a few Sundays' time.
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Gene Rayburn wins the inaugural Buzzr Brackets.
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And now for the traditional victory montage, played over "One Blanking Moment."
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And now for the traditional victory montage, played over "One Blanking Moment."
I'd watch that if only out of sheer morbid curiosity. ;-)
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And now for the traditional victory montage, played over "One Blanking Moment."
"The card is flipped..."
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And now for the traditional victory montage, played over "One Blanking Moment."
"The card is flipped..."
"...and there you are
You've waited all your life
Just to match the stars..."
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I've gotten a good laugh out of the "One Blanking Moment" responses...well played guys. :D