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The Futon Critic says (http://\"http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/showatch.cgi?id=deal_or_no_deal&view=listings\") they're going to Mon/Wed/Fri show for a couple of weeks....
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No, no, no!!! Two nights a week is plenty. NBC, remember what happened when ABC overdid it with WWTBAM. You can't afford to jeopardize DonD's future.
Let's hope this only lasts those two weeks.
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[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Mar 10 2006, 09:31 PM\']No, no, no!!! Two nights a week is plenty. NBC, remember what happened when ABC overdid it with WWTBAM. You can't afford to jeopardize DonD's future.
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Oh how, oh why does history keep repeating itself...
Why am I also seeing a potential celebrity week by the time summer rolls around???
Errrgghhh!!!!!!
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No need to freak out about it....AFAIK, The Futon Critic is far from an official source.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Mar 10 2006, 09:55 PM\']No need to freak out about it....AFAIK, The Futon Critic is far from an official source.
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However, if you click on the link for each episode listed on The Futon Critic, you get... info quoted from NBC's own press releases. If that's not an official source, I don't know what is.
Want to try for three today, Mark?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Mar 10 2006, 09:55 PM\']No need to freak out about it....AFAIK, The Futon Critic is far from an official source.
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Check the official site. It's right there:
http://www.nbc.com/Deal_or_No_Deal/ (http://\"http://www.nbc.com/Deal_or_No_Deal/\")
I don't think the three-day format will last long, but we'll see. I think this show might be better as twice a week in the weekly format though.
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For now, the 3-day-a-week thing is only for a couple weeks, but the M/F airings are currently slated to last thru at least the end of April.
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NBC is miliking 'DONO' dry, just as ABC did with 'Millionaire' did back in the 2000-2002 years. And guess what? Both networks do these types of things when they were/are in the dumper ratings-wise with few hits and an impatient parent company seeing their profits diminished by the low primetime ratings elsewhere on the schedule. NBC is actually touting the strong ratings of its Friday night drama Conviction, a Dick Wolf show that got lower ratings than the Friday night show it replaced, Law & Order: Trial By Jury (pathetic!). So even though I'm sad to see 'DOND' get 'Millionaired' I can understand why it's happening: NBC suits are desperate, and desperate people do desperate things like eat their young if it means improving the 18-49 demo by a tenth of a rating point or so. As soon as NBC gets a big hit or two on the air NBC will bestow on 'DOND' the same treatment ABC is giving 'Extreme Makeover: Home Edition' right now: barely-promoting and taking for granted the one show that for a year or so kept the network present in the Top 20 now that it has hit shows to spare (Lost, Housewives, Dancing with the Stars, etc.). It's the vicious circle of primetime gameshow life! :(
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OK..lemme get this straight.
DOND is doing 3 a week for a couple of weeks. We're speculating that 3 a week might become "permanent" (well, as permanent as anything is on network TV).
This, from the same crowd that would like to see a syndie version of the show. A syndie version would run how many days a week?
"Millionairing" WWTBaM didn't hurt the syndie/long term fortunes of the franchise. I don't think DoND will be affected too badly by triple-pumping it.
Have an ovaltine and chill out.
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Mar 10 2006, 09:38 PM\']DOND is doing 3 a week for a couple of weeks. We're speculating that 3 a week might become "permanent" (well, as permanent as anything is on network TV).[/quote] Well, yeah, anything for people to jump to conclusions and proclaim the sky is falling. Never mind using actual logical reasoning and all that.
This, from the same crowd that would like to see a syndie version of the show. A syndie version would run how many days a week?
What crowd is that? I certainly didn't sign that petition. For my money, the show only works in teeny doses, and twice a week for 23 weeks a year is about it.
"Millionairing" WWTBaM didn't hurt the syndie/long term fortunes of the franchise. I don't think DoND will be affected too badly by triple-pumping it.
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No, but it certainly did take a long time before the syndicated version aired. And I think that's what the doomsayers are worried about. Cause there's no better game show on the air than "Deal or No Deal." <eyeroll>
You're right, Jay, they need to relax.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 11 2006, 04:11 AM\'][quote name=\'JayDLewis\']This, from the same crowd that would like to see a syndie version of the show. A syndie version would run how many days a week?[/quote] What crowd is that? I certainly didn't sign that petition. For my money, the show only works in teeny doses, and twice a week for 23 weeks a year is about it.
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I used a gross generalization there...sorry 'bout that. Kinda like the royal "we."
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Mar 11 2006, 09:14 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 11 2006, 04:11 AM\'][quote name=\'JayDLewis\']This, from the same crowd that would like to see a syndie version of the show. A syndie version would run how many days a week?[/quote] What crowd is that? I certainly didn't sign that petition. For my money, the show only works in teeny doses, and twice a week for 23 weeks a year is about it.
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I used a gross generalization there...sorry 'bout that. Kinda like the royal "we."
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Yeah, I know, and my reply was also for effect. My point is that I don't think a show like Deal or No Deal would work five days a week, at least in the current format. Then again, it works in a half-hour format in England and Australia.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 12 2006, 01:04 AM\']Yeah, I know, and my reply was also for effect. My point is that I don't think a show like Deal or No Deal would work five days a week, at least in the current format. Then again, it works in a half-hour format in England and Australia.
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It's 45 minutes in the UK.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 12 2006, 01:04 AM\'][quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Mar 11 2006, 09:14 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Mar 11 2006, 04:11 AM\'][quote name=\'JayDLewis\']This, from the same crowd that would like to see a syndie version of the show. A syndie version would run how many days a week?[/quote] What crowd is that? I certainly didn't sign that petition. For my money, the show only works in teeny doses, and twice a week for 23 weeks a year is about it.
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I used a gross generalization there...sorry 'bout that. Kinda like the royal "we."
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Yeah, I know, and my reply was also for effect. My point is that I don't think a show like Deal or No Deal would work five days a week, at least in the current format. Then again, it works in a half-hour format in England and Australia.
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And six days a week in the UK--and they've just moved the Saturday airing into prime time, where it beat ITV last week in the ratings and breathed down BBC1's neck, something that Channel 4 shows are not supposed to do, them being the "minority channel" (as in minority of the audience, not race) and all.
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Mar 10 2006, 11:38 PM\']OK..lemme get this straight.
DOND is doing 3 a week for a couple of weeks. We're speculating that 3 a week might become "permanent" (well, as permanent as anything is on network TV).
This, from the same crowd that would like to see a syndie version of the show. A syndie version would run how many days a week?
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True...However the difference between a syndicated game show and a prime time network show is that at least on a syndicated version of a popular show, the odds are better that the show will run at least a full season and in the same timeslot -- even if the ratings start to flounder.
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There's going to be a syndie DoND -- that's my feeling.
I'm, of course, all for it; it's just going to be how NBCU alters the game to fit a syndie version (i.e. getting rid of the models and replacing contestants, cutting number of briefcases down, etc.) which will keep the show in a better place to survive.
In other words -- they need to adapt parts to the Noel version. :)
EDIT: Not that the Aussie version would be bad, either, but the whole nighttime US has been based more on drama then fast play, which is from what I've seen the Aussie version is based on. The only thing that the US draws off the Aussie is the amount of the audience seated.
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U don't like the models?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 10:11 AM\']U don't like the models?
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What useful purpose other than eyecandy do they serve?
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[quote name=\'dad1153\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 09:35 AM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 10:11 AM\']U don't like the models?
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What useful purpose other than eyecandy do they serve?
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They reveal the amounts in the cases.
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[quote name=\'dad1153\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 09:35 AM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 10:11 AM\']U don't like the models?
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What useful purpose other than eyecandy do they serve?
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I dunno, but being a straight guy, I have no objection whatsoever to that eye candy!
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I wonder if anyone has kept track of which model has had the most money in her cases over the course of the show?
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I wonder if anyone has kept track of which model has had the most money in her cases over the course of the show?
Zach?
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 11:27 AM\']
I wonder if anyone has kept track of which model has had the most money in her cases over the course of the show?
Zach?
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Oh, no, you don't!!! Zach, don't even bother.
If it's all as random as Howie says it is there should be no partiuclar "lucky" model.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 12:17 PM\']I wonder if anyone has kept track of which model has had the most money in her cases over the course of the show?[/quote]
Have they even been the same models? Seems to me that some new ones appeared when the show returned, and I can't be sure there haven't even been changes since the show returned a couple weeks ago.
In a bigger sense, there probably would be some interest in the statistics over the long run on a show like this. Not necessarily where the cases were located, but average bank offers, winnings, stuff like that.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 06:39 AM\'][quote name=\'dad1153\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 09:35 AM\']
What useful purpose other than eyecandy do they serve?
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Oh, my aching head.
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 08:17 AM\']I wonder if anyone has kept track of which model has had the most money in her cases over the course of the show?
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I know some folks were keeping track in December, I don't know if they have been vigilant about this since they picked back up.
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 12:02 PM\']If it's all as random as Howie says it is there should be no partiuclar "lucky" model.[/quote]
This early in the show's run, it's actually pretty likely that there are some notable outliers. That doesn't mean a thing re: luck, of course.
Oh, and nothing against having models, but as another straight man, they hardly register at all when I'm watching the show. I'm just weird about 26 ladies all with the same waist, the same outfit, and the same gobs of makeup, I guess.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 12:47 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 06:39 AM\'][quote name=\'dad1153\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 09:35 AM\']
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Oh, my aching head.
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What's wrong, Chris? Don't you remember Stacey on Lingo?
[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Jul 10 2004, 10:25 PM\']She makes the game run faster, since she can look up questionable words quickly, and determine whether or not they are real words. It took longer to do this before she got here.
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Now don't make me remind you of the chocolate syrup, pineapple rings and Jiffy-Pop. Oops, too late. :-)
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 01:16 PM\'][quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Jul 10 2004, 10:25 PM\']She makes the game run faster, since she can look up questionable words quickly, and determine whether or not they are real words. It took longer to do this before she got here.
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Now don't make me remind you of the chocolate syrup, pineapple rings and Jiffy-Pop. Oops, too late. :-)
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I vote that for line of the year. I don't care that it's from 2004. It still beats anything witch contributes.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 01:05 PM\'][quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 12:02 PM\']If it's all as random as Howie says it is there should be no partiuclar "lucky" model.[/quote]
This early in the show's run, it's actually pretty likely that there are some notable outliers. That doesn't mean a thing re: luck, of course.
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That much I knew already, but we're on spring break here, and I really DON'T feel like getting into a stats lesson right now.
(grabbing my next beer o' de day from the fridge)
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 01:18 PM\'][quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 01:16 PM\']Now don't make me remind you of the chocolate syrup, pineapple rings and Jiffy-Pop. Oops, too late. :-)
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I never did get around to naming a Chris Lemon Award winnner for 2004, so we'll make it retroactive here.
And to Jimmy Owen, did you check Klauss's site?
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 12:02 PM\']If it's all as random as Howie says it is there should be no partiuclar "lucky" model.
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That's not what she said last night.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 11:17 AM\']I wonder if anyone has kept track of which model has had the most money in her cases over the course of the show?[/quote]
[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 02:03 PM\']And to Jimmy Owen, did you check Klauss's site?[/quote]
Jimmy hasn't gone to my site?! Blasphemy! How dare he!
http://www.classicgameshows.com/dealornodealstats.html (http://\"http://www.classicgameshows.com/dealornodealstats.html\")
That's through Friday 3/10's show. Due to a new addition in the family, it might take me until the weekend to add this week's shows to the mix.
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Thanks for the link! I'm glad I asked! I would be torn between picking Claudia first or being able to look at her for the entire game.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 01:18 PM\']I vote that for line of the year. I don't care that it's from 2004. It still beats anything witch contributes.
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So does a test pattern.
Don Howard predicts! On or before the first sweeps program of Spring, we'll see a celebrity contestant.
Perhaps Lauren Tewes.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 04:17 PM\']Don Howard predicts! On or before the first sweeps program of Spring, we'll see a celebrity contestant.
Perhaps Lauren Tewes.
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Oh my.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 09:11 AM\']U don't like the models?
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If you're watching the show just for the models, I think we could all pitch in for a subscription to Playboy and a year's worth of "Towel of the Month" club from Bed Bath and Beyond.
From a realistic point of view, Randy said in an earlier post how much expenses are written up for 26 models. Think of what is spent on Barker's Beauties, and then multiply that by 6.5.
Do you think a syndicated version could hold on to such a budget? I doubt it. I'd rather see 20-26 contestants that stay on awhile, root each other on and hopefully win big money. Besides, the UK version has had some cute women contestants as well, so I don't think there's a big loss there.
The other thing that endears me is that the contestant selection on UK's Deal is that it's so diverse. Old/young/male/female/white/black/brown/purple/etc. -- it's all there. To me, it's daytime happy tv that's been missing from the landscape for awhile.
Now go back drooling about Claudia.
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[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 11:15 PM\']Now go back drooling about Claudia.[/quote]
Who said we ever stopped?
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I might not have to worry. The way they cast contestants these days, you practically have to look like a model to get on.
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 09:18 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 04:17 PM\']Don Howard predicts! On or before the first sweeps program of Spring, we'll see a celebrity contestant.
Perhaps Lauren Tewes.
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Yes, I agree. It's an exciting prospect. She's probably out of reach. Perhaps a S.W.A.T. cast reunion (sans Robert Urich, of course). I shall beat Zach to the punch with the game show connection: Anitra Ford guest starred on an episode of S.W.A.T.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 04:17 PM\']Don Howard predicts! On or before the first sweeps program of Spring, we'll see a celebrity contestant.
Perhaps Lauren Tewes.
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We already got Donald Trump and that guy from WWE on there (no, I don't watch wrestling). We've already gotten as close to a celebrity contestant as that show needs to get.
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 07:35 PM\']We already got Donald Trump and that guy from WWE on there (no, I don't watch wrestling). We've already gotten as close to a celebrity contestant as that show needs to get.
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Silly, silly Dr. Have you seen the rest of NBC's primetime ratings lately? Hint, look near the toilet. They'd have the Donald, the Martha, AND the cast of SNL as models if they thought they could cross-promote a show to bleed viewers from one show to the next.
I give it till May sweeps for the next celebrity blitz.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 07:56 PM\'][quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Mar 16 2006, 07:35 PM\']We already got Donald Trump and that guy from WWE on there (no, I don't watch wrestling). We've already gotten as close to a celebrity contestant as that show needs to get.
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Silly, silly Dr. Have you seen the rest of NBC's primetime ratings lately? Hint, look near the toilet. They'd have the Donald, the Martha, AND the cast of SNL as models if they thought they could cross-promote a show to bleed viewers from one show to the next.
I give it till May sweeps for the next celebrity blitz.
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And Trix are for kids. Let me put it in your parlance ... I'd forecast ratings doom for DoND if it goes the celebrity blitz route as Millionaire and Weakest Link did -- and we all know what happened to those shows in the US market.
I am well aware of where NBC's ratings currently are, and I noted - as you probably did - that DoND is about the only show NBC has in the Top 20 at the moment. The jury's still out on how long it can sustain itself there, but DoND will be a stain on the toilet paper if it goes the celeb route. You can call me "silly" all you like, but we have a pattern of behaviour here. We watched Millionaire because it had a chance to change the lives ordinary Joes for the better. DoND has the same appeal, and it uses the same brand of drama to do it that Regis used on his show. We stopped watching when Millionaire became driven by celebrities, and we'll do the same if that happens to DoND.
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I read in USA Today Wednesday (print edition, can't find a link) that the Monday April 3rd ep is going to be 2 hours....my guess is this is where they were planning to air the Apprentice mid-season recap episode but decided they aren't going to do one this time...
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:15 AM\']I read in USA Today Wednesday (print edition, can't find a link) that the Monday April 3rd ep is going to be 2 hours....my guess is this is where they were planning to air the Apprentice mid-season recap episode but decided they aren't going to do one this time...
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Holy smokes. They're gonna slaughter this golden goose before the fall season premieres....
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Some potentially encouraging news: Howie was a guest on Ellen DeGeneres' show today (look for a repeat on Oxygen in a week) and when she asked him if DonD would ever expand to five nights (that's NIGHTS) a week, he doubted it would, that two nights was plenty and these Wednesday shows are indeed "special" events that hopefully aren't slated to be permanent.
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:15 AM\']I read in USA Today Wednesday (print edition, can't find a link) that the Monday April 3rd ep is going to be 2 hours....my guess is this is where they were planning to air the Apprentice mid-season recap episode but decided they aren't going to do one this time...
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That is true - NBC announced it yesterday. I was just coming here to post that.
Also, on Friday 4/14, the show's usual models won't be on. The cases will be held by Miss USA contestants (the Miss USA pageant airs a week later on, you guessed it, NBC).
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[quote name=\'scottua1\' date=\'Mar 24 2006, 12:25 AM\']Also, on Friday 4/14, the show's usual models won't be on. The cases will be held by Miss USA contestants (the Miss USA pageant airs a week later on, you guessed it, NBC).
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Well, beats them having a week of Miss USA contestants playing (though not by much) . Anyone remember Donny-mid with them? That week, Jillian Barberie was the SMART player.
If they don't open the briefcase with grace and style, do they get points deducted?
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[quote name=\'scottua1\' date=\'Mar 23 2006, 11:25 PM\'][quote name=\'weaklink75\' date=\'Mar 22 2006, 09:15 AM\']I read in USA Today Wednesday (print edition, can't find a link) that the Monday April 3rd ep is going to be 2 hours....my guess is this is where they were planning to air the Apprentice mid-season recap episode but decided they aren't going to do one this time...
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That is true - NBC announced it yesterday. I was just coming here to post that.
Also, on Friday 4/14, the show's usual models won't be on. The cases will be held by Miss USA contestants (the Miss USA pageant airs a week later on, you guessed it, NBC).
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