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Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: uncamark on September 06, 2007, 03:53:35 PM
VH1 PR posted by Aaron Barnhart on tvbarn2:

http://groups.google.com/group/tvbarn2/bro...f5d8578e1a1c7a2 (http://\"http://groups.google.com/group/tvbarn2/browse_thread/thread/e632bf8855eb0470/af5d8578e1a1c7a2#af5d8578e1a1c7a2\")

Wow.

Wonder if Miss Teen South Carolina's going to be on the show.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: Joe Mello on September 07, 2007, 11:07:27 AM
Now I'm no English major, but if this is going to be taken as seriously as it seems, than I think there's a problem with the title.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: chad1m on September 07, 2007, 11:53:10 AM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163035\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 11:07 AM\']
I think there's a problem with the title.
[/quote]

Well, I think that's actually kind of the point.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: PYLdude on September 07, 2007, 12:10:52 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'163037\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 11:53 AM\']
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163035\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 11:07 AM\']
I think there's a problem with the title.
[/quote]

Well, I think that's actually kind of the point.
[/quote]

As do I...let's not forget the stereotype that models aren't exactly the brightest bulbs in the lamps.

But you know Mello...won't go for stereotypes unless they're the ones about liberal arts majors working in fast food, right?
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 07, 2007, 12:23:15 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163035\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 11:07 AM\']
Now I'm no English major, but if this is going to be taken as seriously as it seems, than I think there's a problem with the title.[/quote]
I'm finding myself surprised at the number of people on various message boards who think this is a genuine grammatical mistake on the part of the producers, and not the obvious joke that it is.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: dzinkin on September 07, 2007, 12:25:48 PM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'163039\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 12:10 PM\']
But you know Mello...won't go for stereotypes unless they're the ones about liberal arts majors working in fast food, right?
[/quote]
I think that's actually the basis for Fox's soon-to-be-announced ripoff of America's Most Smartest Model. ;-)
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: Joe Mello on September 07, 2007, 12:34:29 PM
Silly me, I thought there would be a modicum of dignity to this event and not just the cast of Zoolander competing.

/For the record, Actuarial Mathematics '09
//As opposed to Math '08, Applied Math '08 or Scientific Computing '09 (fall)
///If I'd subbed "drama" for "liberal arts" would that have suited you?
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: clemon79 on September 07, 2007, 12:54:46 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163046\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 09:34 AM\']
///If I'd subbed "drama" for "liberal arts" would that have suited you?
[/quote]
No.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go scrape the bugs off of Uncle Bill's windshield.

Signed, Chris Lemon '94
B.A., Theater Arts, San Jose State University
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 07, 2007, 01:01:03 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163046\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 12:34 PM\']
Silly me, I thought there would be a modicum of dignity to this event [/quote]
A reality show about testing the intelligence of models, with an obvious grammatical error in the title and the presence of Ben Stein, and you're looking for dignity?

Yeah, I'll be honest, that was pretty silly of you.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: PYLdude on September 07, 2007, 01:21:07 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163046\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 12:34 PM\']
///If I'd subbed "drama" for "liberal arts" would that have suited you?
[/quote]

Maybe...an apology would have suited even better, which you never offered.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: MikeK on September 07, 2007, 07:09:53 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'163049\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 01:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163046\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 12:34 PM\']
Silly me, I thought there would be a modicum of dignity to this event [/quote]
A reality show about testing the intelligence of models, with an obvious grammatical error in the title and the presence of Ben Stein, and you're looking for dignity?

Yeah, I'll be honest, that was pretty silly of you.[/quote]
I beg of you, don't clump all of us math majors into the "silly" category.  (BA Math and BA Education, Cleveland State '06 here.)  Subbing "drama" in won't help your cause either; my sister majored in Drama for two years at Ohio University before four years in Fashion Design at Kent State.  Getting booted by the OU Drama head was the best thing to happen to her; she's making a decent living in the world of fashion.

/Next up:  Picking on the Undecideds.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: TLEberle on September 07, 2007, 11:05:29 PM
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163035\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 08:07 AM\']Now I'm no English major, but if this is going to be taken as seriously as it seems, than I think there's a problem with the title.[/quote]I really wonder how many people are going to see the title, look down their nose, say, "Silly writers! Of course you don't combine superlatives like that! I'll be watching Masterpiece Theatre instead."

I seriously doubt it. They'll laugh at the premise and maybe watch. Or not.

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163046\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 09:34 AM\']///If I'd subbed "drama" for "liberal arts" would that have suited you?[/quote]No, because you're continuing to miss the point. You can have a college degree and still produce industrial sized buckets of fail. (God knows you've created plenty of it here.)

A friend of mine dutifully sat through his four year anthropology degree, and he's a school sanitation engineer. My stepmother didn't go to college, and turned a po-dunk insurance company into a thriving one with fifty clients and roughly that many employees. I should be so lucky to duplicate her success, and I only have a Dilettante Special (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associate%27s_degree\"). The degree isn't what matters, it's the person.

You are not in the position to judge someone's worthiness based on the degree they've chosen to pursue, or not pursue. No one is. End, cue overture, roll credits.

Why is that so hard to grasp?
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: PYLdude on September 08, 2007, 12:30:40 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'163062\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 11:05 PM\']
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163046\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 09:34 AM\']///If I'd subbed "drama" for "liberal arts" would that have suited you?[/quote]No, because you're continuing to miss the point. You can have a college degree and still produce industrial sized buckets of fail. (God knows you've created plenty of it here.)

You are not in the position to judge someone's worthiness based on the degree they've chosen to pursue, or not pursue. No one is. End, cue overture, roll credits.

Why is that so hard to grasp?
[/quote]

Because he doesn't want to admit he's wrong.

You know, I'm surprised a Rule Five penalty flag wasn't thrown on Mello.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: dzinkin on September 08, 2007, 07:22:37 AM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'163068\' date=\'Sep 8 2007, 12:30 AM\']
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'163062\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 11:05 PM\']
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'163046\' date=\'Sep 7 2007, 09:34 AM\']///If I'd subbed "drama" for "liberal arts" would that have suited you?[/quote]No, because you're continuing to miss the point. You can have a college degree and still produce industrial sized buckets of fail. (God knows you've created plenty of it here.)

You are not in the position to judge someone's worthiness based on the degree they've chosen to pursue, or not pursue. No one is. End, cue overture, roll credits.

Why is that so hard to grasp?
[/quote]
Because he doesn't want to admit he's wrong.
[/quote]
Why is it so hard to believe that Joe doesn't think he's wrong?  Among other things, we've had a guy who thinks it's okay to make up my own abbreviations and use capital letters only when he feels like it, at least two guys who thought it was okay for them to post error-laden Millionaire summaries but not okay for others to point out those errors, and of course, numerous people who think it's perfectly okay to believe anything they read anywhere and post it here as "news."  Is it really so hard to imagine that there's someone else who just doesn't Get It?

Quote
You know, I'm surprised a Rule Five penalty flag wasn't thrown on Mello.
I don't see an intent to insult any specific member, or even a large number of members, of the board — plain and simple.   He probably doesn't get that with the membership we have, no matter what major he chooses to slam we probably have more than a few people who pursued it.  Is that something that should be obvious?  Clearly.  Would this be the first time someone didn't Get It even when It is something that should be obvious?  You know the answer to that as well as I do. :-)

If he keeps it up it may be a different matter; we'll see.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: PYLdude on September 08, 2007, 01:52:30 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'163075\' date=\'Sep 8 2007, 07:22 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'163068\' date=\'Sep 8 2007, 12:30 AM\']
Because he doesn't want to admit he's wrong.
[/quote]
Why is it so hard to believe that Joe doesn't think he's wrong?[/quote]

All I know is that if it was me that said it, I'd be forced to apologize if I hadn't already done so.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: dzinkin on September 08, 2007, 02:18:53 PM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'163083\' date=\'Sep 8 2007, 01:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'163075\' date=\'Sep 8 2007, 07:22 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'163068\' date=\'Sep 8 2007, 12:30 AM\']
Because he doesn't want to admit he's wrong.
[/quote]
Why is it so hard to believe that Joe doesn't think he's wrong?[/quote]

All I know is that if it was me that said it, I'd be forced to apologize if I hadn't already done so.
[/quote]
Oh, I absolutely think Joe should apologize (and the fact that he hasn't will indeed make a difference if something similar happens again).  I was merely disagreeing with your assessment of why he hasn't; to "admit" to being wrong, I think one has to believe that one is wrong, and Joe doesn't think he is.  Doesn't make him any less wrong, of course.

This is just an example of Hanlon's Razor, nothing more.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: tvwxman on September 09, 2007, 08:40:03 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'163084\' date=\'Sep 8 2007, 02:18 PM\']
This is just an example of Hanlon's Razor, nothing more.
[/quote]
Great. Now I gotta f'n shave and clean up before I post?

This place is going to hell.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: dzinkin on September 09, 2007, 08:48:39 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'163161\' date=\'Sep 9 2007, 08:40 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'163084\' date=\'Sep 8 2007, 02:18 PM\']
This is just an example of Hanlon's Razor, nothing more.
[/quote]
Great. Now I gotta f'n shave and clean up before I post?
[/quote]
Yes.  Make sure your webcam is turned on so we can verify this.  And no holding the razor with the middle finger, either.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: davemackey on October 04, 2007, 03:29:28 PM
(One month later...)

Hey, they've announced the contestants for this thing. One of them is one of the dancing bees from "The Singing Bee", Lisa Byrnes. Now I've got someone to root for in this thing.
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: clemon79 on October 04, 2007, 04:35:36 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'163084\' date=\'Sep 8 2007, 11:18 AM\']
This is just an example of Hanlon's Razor, nothing more.
[/quote]
I can't believe I'd never heard of Hanlon's Razor (beyond hearing the name passively) before.

I feel warm and fuzzy inside right now.

(Or maybe that's teh gazpacho...)
Title: Win Ben Stein's Respect
Post by: uncamark on October 05, 2007, 11:57:57 AM
[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'165538\' date=\'Oct 4 2007, 02:29 PM\']
(One month later...)

Hey, they've announced the contestants for this thing. One of them is one of the dancing bees from "The Singing Bee", Lisa Byrnes. Now I've got someone to root for in this thing.
[/quote]

And Jamie M. was HPOA No. 24 on "DOND."

This should be good nasty fun--9 p.m. ET Sunday, with a repeat at 11:30 p.m. ET that night and many more repeats for sure.  The first episode is supposedly up at the MTVN V Spot site.