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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Jim on December 27, 2003, 03:28:59 PM
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Related to a discussion of Penny Ante, which was described as not being hated by Bob Barker, has anyone heard any mentions of any games Bob actually dislikes?
I read on some newsgroup somewhere he doesn't like Hit Me (no reasons given). When I e-mailed TPIR once about Split Decision being retired, they responded Bob didn't like the game and asked that it be retired. At a taping, he said his favorite game is Hole in One. He then goes on to say Plinko is the fan favorite, and It's In The Bag is also very popular with the audience.
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Bullseye I and Double Digits were two games that Bob clearly hated.
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I would think if there were games that Bob hates, it would be retired.
He probably likes some games more than others.
I know he loves It's in the Bag. It's not one of my favories.
I'm sure his dislike for Hit me probably has to do with explaining the rules and the contestants never get it.
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I thought I heard that Bob disliked Superball, which led to its retirement.
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[quote name=\'TV Favorites\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 04:26 PM\'] I thought I heard that Bob disliked Superball, which led to its retirement. [/quote]
It's true.
It took too long to setup.
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Super Saver was also retired because Bob was tired of explaining it's rules.
If only Joker, Pick a Number, and Poker Game were as complicated....
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[quote name=\'JayC\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 06:16 PM\'] Super Saver was also retired because Bob was tired of explaining it's rules. [/quote]
Not true.
Something was explained wrong in the rules, it became an S&P issue, and it wasn't worth the hassle.
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[quote name=\'Jim\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 03:28 PM\'] Related to a discussion of Penny Ante, which was described as not being hated by Bob Barker, has anyone heard any mentions of any games Bob actually dislikes?
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I can't imagine him liking "I don't know how to play the Check Game but everyone in the damn audience does" very much.
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 02:39 PM\'] Bullseye I and Double Digits were two games that Bob clearly hated. [/quote]
And I believe Bullseye I and Double Digits BOTH had complicated rules.
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Bullseye I was just as complicated as Clock Game is. It just wasn't won nearly as often.
Double Digits wasn't necessarily complicated - it was just not intuitive at all. Temptation makes far better use of the concept of the digits in the price of a smaller prize corresponding to the digits in the price of a car.
It's fun to see innocuous conjecture and internet folklore being passed off as fact throughout the thread, though.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 05:14 PM\'] I can't imagine him liking "I don't know how to play the Check Game but everyone in the damn audience does" very much. [/quote]
He's managed to turn that one into a running gag, though, and once you can do that and get a laugh most every time, you learn to stomach such inconveniences. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 08:25 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 05:14 PM\'] I can't imagine him liking "I don't know how to play the Check Game but everyone in the damn audience does" very much. [/quote]
He's managed to turn that one into a running gag, though, and once you can do that and get a laugh most every time, you learn to stomach such inconveniences. :) [/quote]
What about Ten Chances? He seems to me not to like contestants who don't end their price with a zero.
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Bullseye I was just as complicated as Clock Game is.
700.
Higher.
800.
Lower.
This is complicated? Tricky yes, complicated no.
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I think the problem with Super Saver was the trilons as opposed to Bob's like/dislike, that was the real reason the p.o.s. game was retired
I read on Marc's forum that he just isn't too crazy about Shell Game. Well, I'm not sure why, but it does see less frequent play in recent years.
Yeah, he does get a bit pissed about the contestants who don't end their prices in zero doesnt he. Right on.
Check Game: No brainer. How would you like to have to explain the game to somebody who claims to know it but doesn't have a clue how to play it?
It's not this issue but I don't think he cares for Master Key due to the fact he has to reach up a little and pull the key out on the wrong ones. They should drop this down just a bit so the ole man can reach it.
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[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 09:47 PM\'] I think the problem with Super Saver was the trilons as opposed to Bob's like/dislike, that was the real reason the p.o.s. game was retired [/quote]
I'm standing by the S&P reason.
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I agree cmjb13. There were maybe 3 times Barker messed up the rules of Super Saver.
As far as Bulseye I, the concept wasn't hard, the format was hard. The main difference between Bullseye I and Clock game is the limit...7 guesses or all the gueeses you can make in 30 seconds. Did Bob hate Bullseye I? Only he knows that. But back at the time, he wasn't the executive producer and was just the host.
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[quote name=\'garffreak\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 08:12 PM\'] I agree cmjb13. There were maybe 3 times Barker messed up the rules of Super Saver. [/quote]
Heck, even Jay Lewis screwed up the rules of Super Saver on a recent 'Net Price is Right "episode"!
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I don't think he liked Hurdles because the game was always malfunctioning.
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[quote name=\'combsisthebest\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 12:04 AM\'] I don't think he liked Hurdles because the game was always malfunctioning. [/quote]
It's nice to see how we all have jumped inside Barker's mind.
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Hurdles and Super Saver were both retried for mechanical faults.
The S&P stuff suggested about Super Saver is pure nonsense, IMHO, it was a solid game. I can't imagine why anyone (even Bob himself) dosen't like it.
And, lastly, if Bob himself dosen't say it, I don't think it's fair for us to assume what he feels. Even on Superball, even though it was information passed down to us that is pretty reliable, are we sure that that is the REAL reason?
Just a thought or two...
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Something was explained wrong in the rules, it became an S&P issue, and it wasn't worth the hassle.
As was explained to me, Bob failed to mention it was "mathematically possible" to win one time and the contestant claimed later to "not be trying" to win. The whole thing turned into a mess as Chris (it's Chris, right? :) briefly touched upon. I forget if it was actually a legal thing, or just between the show and S & P. Either way, it kinda hung badly on the game as its fault.
-Jason
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It's fun to see innocuous conjecture and internet folklore being passed off as fact throughout the thread, though.
You're welcome to jump in and set the record straight, dear (in a manner of speaking).
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 02:46 PM\'] [quote name=\'TV Favorites\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 04:26 PM\'] I thought I heard that Bob disliked Superball, which led to its retirement. [/quote]
It's true.
It took too long to setup. [/quote]
What's to take long? It rolled out, plugged in and a camera got behind it. It was no more time-consuming than many other games.
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 01:32 AM\']The S&P stuff suggested about Super Saver is pure nonsense[/quote]
You can believe what you want. I asked and that's the answer I got. However, I'm sure mechanical issues were also taken into consideration.
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 03:13AM\']What's to take long? It rolled out, plugged in and a camera got behind it. It was no more time-consuming than many other games. [/quote]
But it was the time it took to do that. Plus explaining the rules to dumb contestants, inspiration roll, contestant possibly rolling 4 balls, 3 door reveal, etc...
The whole thing took to long and there wasn't any time left in the show to play any long games (they could only play the small quick ones)
I think this was one game that suffered due to the addition of more commercial time.
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dont know why "Its Optional" was retired. It seemed like 2 Cars was a pretty good price, nevertheless what it came with. However, picking the options was weird idea. Also, it was different than any other game. Instead of grocery/department store prices, it was car option prices. I think a game that offers 2 cars would be pretty cool. I think Triple Play is a bit too harsh though. I mean its all or nothing. Even on Golden Road, you get some help, and if u dont get the big prize, u get the ones u've one, and u get the choice of 3 or 4 numbers to choose from. If they put a second chance thing on Triple Play, that u could use once in the game, maybe have an extra price to pick from, it would be a less worried game. I dont think the game is exciting, only the prizes that are up for grabs. I dont believe in games like the old superball that ud have to get the ball in the whole in order to win, even if u were perfect on the prizes, but something in the game should be fun. I used to hate spelling b, but thats a very cool game.
i should stop before i ramble lol.
l8r.
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[quote name=\'Argo\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 11:00 AM\'] I think Triple Play is a bit too harsh though. I mean its all or nothing[/quote]
The odds of getting all 3 cars, while possible, are longer than getting 2 cars right. Most people would stop at 2 cars, probably even 1, so why give them that option?
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dont know why "Its Optional" was retired. It seemed like 2 Cars was a pretty good price, nevertheless what it came with. However, picking the options was weird idea. Also, it was different than any other game. Instead of grocery/department store prices, it was car option prices. I think a game that offers 2 cars would be pretty cool.
No average person would price options, but how else could they do It's Optional?
I think Triple Play is a bit too harsh though. I mean its all or nothingIf there was a bailout option, this game would be as bad in the win column as Step Up.
Even on Golden Road, you get some help, and if u dont get the big prize, u get the ones u've one, and u get the choice of 3 or 4 numbers to choose from.Golden Road is easy until the end, because you should be able to have a good idea of the price of the first 2 prizes, espically if their are repeating digits.
If they put a second chance thing on Triple Play, that u could use once in the game, maybe have an extra price to pick from, it would be a less worried game.
How would that help?
I dont believe in games like the old superball that ud have to get the ball in the whole in order to win, even if u were perfect on the prizes, but something in the game should be funThat's why the SPs were usually quite easy.
I used to hate spelling b, but thats a very cool game.
I used to like it, but I don't really care for it anymore.
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[quote name=\'Argo\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 11:00 AM\'] I think Triple Play is a bit too harsh though. I mean its all or nothing. [/quote]
So is Squeeze Play, Lucky Seven...
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 05:23 PM\'] [quote name=\'Argo\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 11:00 AM\'] I think Triple Play is a bit too harsh though. I mean its all or nothing. [/quote]
So is Squeeze Play, Lucky Seven... [/quote]
Not in that same sense, though. He means all cars or no cars. But I don't think that all pricing games should be gimmes, anyway, so harshness means nothing to me.
Brandon Brooks
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This would never happen, but wouldn't it be fun to have Jack Narz or someone come in to host and have Bob play the pricing games for audience members, sorta like the Tattletales host switch of the 70's. That way we could see which games he really likes.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 05:23 PM\'] [quote name=\'Argo\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 11:00 AM\'] I think Triple Play is a bit too harsh though. I mean its all or nothing. [/quote]
So is Squeeze Play, Lucky Seven... [/quote]
Don't forget pathfinder, even though it has been won twice here lately. It's a butt pain to play at best.
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Don't forget pathfinder, even though it has been won twice here lately. It's a butt pain to play at best.
And I'm sure TPiR's tech guys will back you up there. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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I don't think Triple Play is hard. The rules are easy: You are to pick out the price that is closest to the ARP of each car, without going over. If I bomb, so be it. I know the game.
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[quote name=\'Argo\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 08:00 AM\'] dont know why "Its Optional" was retired. It seemed like 2 Cars was a pretty good price, nevertheless what it came with. However, picking the options was weird idea. Also, it was different than any other game. Instead of grocery/department store prices, it was car option prices. [/quote]
I think a major problem here was that too many cars were only available with options like "Preferred Option Package 57J," rather than having all the optional equipment available individually.
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[quote name=\'trainman\' date=\'Dec 29 2003, 01:37 AM\'] [quote name=\'Argo\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 08:00 AM\'] dont know why "Its Optional" was retired. It seemed like 2 Cars was a pretty good price, nevertheless what it came with. However, picking the options was weird idea. Also, it was different than any other game. Instead of grocery/department store prices, it was car option prices. [/quote]
I think a major problem here was that too many cars were only available with options like "Preferred Option Package 57J," rather than having all the optional equipment available individually. [/quote]
I don't know about that. I commonly piece cars together for an internet game--and the internet sites list plenty of options that are not in packages.
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[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 07:44 PM\']Don't forget pathfinder, even though it has been won twice here lately. It's a butt pain to play at best.[/quote]
With all our love of pricing game tips (end Ten Chances prices in 0, for example), I'm surprised that I've never heard anyone suggest looking for a 5 and a 0, both bordering a single other number, on the board--then guiding their path in that direction. I've yet to see such a setup that didn't indicate the correct end of a path.