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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: tvrandywest on June 27, 2004, 04:14:00 AM
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I've been among the folks working with Paul Bailey and his team in helping to organize the "GSC3". There should be some fun sessions with some cool special guests, but all along the highlight has been the luncheon scheduled for Sunday, August 15 when awards will be given honoring Bill Cullen and Ralph Edwards.
Bill's wife Ann Cullen, Tom Kenendy and Jack Narz were among those previously confirmed by agent Fred Wostbrock. There's also been behind-the-scenes efforts to see if Bob Barker would consider speaking as well. Bob rarely attends these kinds of events, but we were hoping he'd consider participating in this honor to Ralph Edwards as Ralph is the person Bob most credits for his success. Ralph's son Gary made the overture.
Paul Bailey had a verbal committment a week ago, but we all agreed it wisest to wait until it was firm before even whispering about the possibility. While I haven't spoken directly to Paul recently, it appears that Bob's publicist has confirmed that Bob will appear. If true, way cool!
You can find out more about GSC3 at http://www.gameshowcongress.com/ (http://\"http://www.gameshowcongress.com/\")
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Oh, to be able to be there!
It's a shame I can't, though. I'd love to see these legends tell stories of how TV used to be.
Well, here's hoping someone is there with a camcorder to capture this rare event. :)
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I was at last year's GSC and I highly recommend it. Paul Bailey and the crew do a fine job. Our own Mike Burger has an awesome game that we played last year. I believe they are playing that same game tournament style this year.
I am getting back from London on 8/14, I may hop on another plane on 8/14 to come to the GSC. I hope to, I do not know for sure yet. It sounds like another great event this year.
Tim :-)
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I'm hoping I won't miss it, but my 8 ball says "Outlook Not So Good" - fundage problems. I'll have to throw out an appeal to double, or maybe even triple or quadruple up with some others 'round Eastern Pennsylvania to soften the financial blow.
Now if the Congress met in New York, I'd definitely be there. SO much easier.
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[quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Jun 27 2004, 08:26 AM\'] Now if the Congress met in New York, I'd definitely be there. SO much easier. [/quote]
I'm only beginning to get involved with the Game Show Congress people (hoping to have some small role in the Cullen tribute, of course) but my impression is that after moving it around for each of the first three years, there's some thought to keeping it in Southern California from this point on. The idea of the awards is to honor living legends each year, and most of those legends will be LA based. Plus being around LA will give participants opportunities to attend tapings, tryouts, etc.
Still, as much fun as our own Conventions have been over the years, the scale of this thing looks to be incredible. Possibly hundreds of participants, loads of activities, and of course the famous guests. If you're a serious game show fan, this ought to be a priority.
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The name still disgusts me.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 27 2004, 02:18 PM\'] The name still disgusts me. [/quote]
Yeah, Bob Barker is a pretty far-fetched name when you look at it.
Or were you referring to the Congreff? :)
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Still, as much fun as our own Conventions have been over the years, the scale of this thing looks to be incredible. Possibly hundreds of participants, loads of activities, and of course the famous guests.
One wonders how they're publicizing/marketing this thing other than through word of mouth. We would have given them free space right here for that very purpose had they but asked, right Matt?
L.A. is definitely the place to have this thing. I don't see a whole lotta game show professionals hopping on a plane for Boulder, Colorado for something like this.
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Frankly, I don't think of Boulder as much of a hot spot either. It's just that some of us, even those in TV, have to dig a little deeper than we're able to to fly cross-country to pitch our ideas. Now, if we could logistify some sort of sponsorships for us Bob Stewart or Mark Goodson hopefuls, it'd relieve a major burden. Another idea is an alternate method of getting game ideas out there. Those coming out to the Congress strictly for pleasure would be on their own.
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Supposedly people will be able to pitch ideas at this thing. If that's true, I have all kinds of concerns which I have expressed on this board before. To be brief about it, there exists the potential for exploiting people who have no industry savvy and no clout in the business.
And forget about being the next Mark Goodson or Bob Stewart. The era when someone could aspire to be the next M.G. or B.S. is long, long gone.
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Jun 27 2004, 07:23 PM\'] Or were you referring to the Congreff? :) [/quote]
He was indeed.
I have no doubt that Steve Beverly was involved in the naming of the event and is fully aware that we had been using the GSC abbreviation with pride for almost ten years for our twelve-strong-and-counting Game Show Convention series of events. He has never deigned to play with us and I regard his attempt to diminish our GSC tradition as, at best, an act in extremely poor faith.
Refusing to attend one of his events because of the name would be very much an act of nasectomy intended to spite your own face because the line-up looks irritatingly good, but I would hope that those who value our traditions would not deign any events apart from our own with the GSC tag. GSC' OK, GSC* OK, GSC: something different. You wouldn't accept it if he attempted to reclaim and repurpose the abbreviation atgs, would you?
This is, I freely admit, petty and childish. But he started it. (Add self-aware deprecatory emoticon to taste, if you must.)
Land wars have been started over less significant issues of nomenclature,
Chris
[Edited to correct typo in Prof. Steev's surname]
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As someone who has attended 3 Game Show Conventions ('96, '98, '04) and hosted two ('97, '03) I agree with Chris on both counts.
To pass up going to one simply because of the NAME would just be incredibly selfish and stupid, but I disagree with the name he has given it......It's not copyrighted or anything, obviously, but the initials "GSC" had a meaning in the game-show world long before Perf came along and changed it for his own use.
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[quote name=\'dickoon\' date=\'Jun 29 2004, 07:33 PM\'] I have no doubt that Steve Beverly was involved in the naming of the event and is fully aware that we had been using the GSC abbreviation with pride for almost ten years for our twelve-strong-and-counting Game Show Convention series of events. He has never deigned to play with us and I regard his attempt to diminish our GSC tradition as, at best, an act in extremely poor faith.
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You guys are going to have to get over yourselves. Steve Beverly did not name it. The man who did name it, Paul Bailey, is one of the nicest people you would ever meet and had no prior knowledge of a-t-gs.
Believe it or not, there were game show fans who didn't use Usenet.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Jun 29 2004, 09:14 PM\'] [quote name=\'dickoon\' date=\'Jun 29 2004, 07:33 PM\'] I have no doubt that Steve Beverly was involved in the naming of the event and is fully aware that we had been using the GSC abbreviation with pride for almost ten years for our twelve-strong-and-counting Game Show Convention series of events. He has never deigned to play with us and I regard his attempt to diminish our GSC tradition as, at best, an act in extremely poor faith.
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You guys are going to have to get over yourselves. Steve Beverly did not name it. The man who did name it, Paul Bailey, is one of the nicest people you would ever meet and had no prior knowledge of a-t-gs.
Believe it or not, there were game show fans who didn't use Usenet.
--Mike [/quote]
I wonder why Paul didn't name it the Game Show Convention? Convention sounds better than Congress.
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Considering that those who come/have come to prior Game Show Conventions would concentrate on the game shows of the past (at least in tournament gameplay), we should name any future gatherings as:
Game Show Nostalgists....Or GSN, for short.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jun 29 2004, 10:26 PM\'] [quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Jun 29 2004, 09:14 PM\'] You guys are going to have to get over yourselves. Steve Beverly did not name it. The man who did name it, Paul Bailey, is one of the nicest people you would ever meet and had no prior knowledge of a-t-gs.
Believe it or not, there were game show fans who didn't use Usenet.
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I wonder why Paul didn't name it the Game Show Convention? Convention sounds better than Congress. [/quote]
"Convention" may have sounded too mundane; some of these quiz-bowl types are pretty clever when it comes to naming things. Since Beverly already calls his site the "Convention Center", Paul and his group may have wanted to name it something different to specifically avoid confusion. But Mike's right, nobody in this "Congress" operation is the slightest bit interested in (and only vaguely aware of) our past Game Show Conventions, and certainly aren't trying to steal any thunder.
Just think about it a very little bit. In terms of connecting with game show history, the highlights of ten past Game Show Conventions have been touching an actual pair of dice from The Big Showdown and reading a letter from Mary Lou Basaraba. This year's Congress will be attended by Bob Barker, Tom Kennedy, Jack Narz and Ann Cullen, just to name a few. What exactly do you think they're competing with?
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Speaking as the host of the last Convention, I can say I dont think we are trying to compete with the Congress in the slightest bit.
The Game Show Convention is roughly 10 fans hanging out for a weekend watching tapes and playing board games. All the attendees know this before attending. On the flipside the Congress is a professionally run, largescale event that has Bob Barker among others.
This next line may be Woolery left Wheel territory, but I think that no one here has any problem with the actual event, or Paul Bailey, or any of it's scheduled attendees. I'm sure half of the members here would love to go to this. I think the reason and only reason there is the slightest bit of complaint, is that Steve Beverly is invloved, and any time the Perf is involved, some people here feel the need to take potshots at him. Now, I realize his reputation here, but seriously, I have to give the man and his co-organizers kudos, as anyone who can get the big names they are getting certainly deserve praise.
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And if I didn't have something else planned for that weekend, I would be there. I am very impressed with what he's been able to do.
All I ask is that he not use the Perfesser's noxious "game opera" term for those certain competition shows. That use in the TV biz seems to be limited to strictly the Perfesser and his minions and has not gained general usage.
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In addition to all the points mentioned above, if you attend this event, you'll get to meet me. As if pressing the flesh with Bob Barker et.al. wasn't enough incentive.
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I read that there would be sessions where attendees can present their original game show ideas. Is this still on, and for anyone unable to attend, would there be any alternative. For example, would there be a way to possibly get in touch with whoever would handle the proposals?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jul 1 2004, 12:04 PM\'] I read that there would be sessions where attendees can present their original game show ideas. Is this still on, and for anyone unable to attend, would there be any alternative. For example, would there be a way to possibly get in touch with whoever would handle the proposals? [/quote]
The "Pitch Session" is one of the panels I have been helping to organize. Due to time limitations there will only be a few participants able to present their game ideas to the panel of pros. If everyone with an idea at GSC3 had their 6 minutes it would consume the entire weekend as opposed to the hour or so planned.
Get to the GSC website now to get more information on what to present in advance to be considered for participation, I know a couple of folks have gotten their act together already and will be among those presenting ideas.
While GSC will be handling the legalese for participants, I think it's important to clarify what this panel is all about. While producers and present/former network/cable programmers are scheduled to be on the panel, none will be there in a professional capacity as a representative of his/her company. You will NOT be pitching an idea directly to NBC, GSN or any other outlet.
While the people on the panel may decide that they want to talk with you further outside of GSC, the real purposes of this panel are to give people who have prepared game ideas to the point where they are ready for presentation an opportunity to see how the TV world works and to get feedback on developing their ideas.
It should be an invaluable experience for those who are serious about shephearding a concept to the marketplace. Those selected to particiapte will present their games under circumstances similar to how a real pitch works and then have some dialogue with the industry folks about things such as: where the idea may need to be further developed, where any problems in play and judging may be, how the idea can be made more commercially viable, and even suggestions on how to improve the idea's presentation as you work towards the next steps of making a formal pitch to a buyer.
I hope that helps clarify what that GSC panel is all about.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Jun 30 2004, 03:14 AM\'] You guys are going to have to get over yourselves. Steve Beverly did not name it. The man who did name it, Paul Bailey, is one of the nicest people you would ever meet and had no prior knowledge of a-t-gs.
Believe it or not, there were game show fans who didn't use Usenet. [/quote]
There's very little about GS Congress 1 left on the Internet, so I have only your word to take for it that Paul Bailey was involved at Congress 1. As I recall, Congress 1 had very little apart from Prof. Beverly and a trivia tournament; Paul Bailey seems to be involved from the trivia side of things, so I'm just prepared to believe he might have been involved with the selection of the name.
That said, any collection of game show fans worth their assembly-organisation salt ought to have at least one person with knowledge of at least one of (a) USENET, (b) a number of sister game show fandom game show mailing lists, © the existence of GSC tapes on the tape trading circuit, (d) our appearance on GSN, (e) Brad Francini's web pages on the subject, (f) other attendees' pages on the subject, (g) our long-established interaction with the likes of one F. Wostbrock, not to mention one R. West of this parish and so on and so on. Due diligence and informed fan status must surely preclude ignorance of all of the above.
Our GSC tradition is not a footnote; it is a vital part of game show fandom, such as it is. I might accept that Paul Bailey might not know, but whoever else might have spoken up and said "no, that's a bad name, the abbreviation has already been taken" but didn't do so is just as much to blame. Given that much of the publicity of the first event was on Prof. Beverly's site, I am quite convinced he was fully involved from the start, particularly with the first event in the series, and it would seem most unlikely to me that he could not have at least pointed out the initial clash.
We have had discussions on the past about the importance of the online fandom on the game show world at large. I fully accept that our membership, which can be reasonably estimated at three figures, does not nearly have the clout to impact scheduling decisions and we have done well for something of our rat's-gluteus-maximus size to get mention on Club AM and Extreme Gong.
However, we are already at a size where we can have a marked effect on attendance at game show gatherings, and we are surely the ideal demographic for such gatherings. Heck, we are considerably more interesting and relevant than most attendees. While it's unreasonable to assume that we are the target market for GSN, we are a target market for any putative game show assembly and our existence - heck, our dollars - should be respected. I would hate us to be marginalised to a talk at a fourth such congress, "The history of game show fandom on the Internet and predecessor commercial online systems, 1992 to 2003" - we're worth more than that. (That said, I imagine that any of the usual suspects could deliver such a talk and make it rock harder than a two-karat diamond.) Each of the three congresses could probably have got another, realistically, 20 or 25 grateful attendees, of the sort who would have likely volunteered to assist with the administration, produced interesting new programming and given the event a positive buzz, had there been a deliberate attempt to get the support of the established online game show fandom - which would, doubtlessly, have pointed out the prior existence of GSC-branded events and produced a more acceptable name.
Don't even get me started on the lifting of the Home Game Tournament tradition as well as everything else.
I recognise that my mouth is becoming uncomfortably frothy, so I shall have myself checked for rabies before further posts from the UK on this topic.
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FWIW, I did email Mr Bailey after I saw GSC2 on Da Perf's site telling him (complaining, really) that GSC was a moniker that had already been in use since 1994.
If I can find his reply, I'll pass it along.
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While GSC will be handling the legalese for participants, I think it's important to clarify what this panel is all about. While producers and present/former network/cable programmers are scheduled to be on the panel, none will be there in a professional capacity as a representative of his/her company. You will NOT be pitching an idea directly to NBC, GSN or any other outlet.
While the people on the panel may decide that they want to talk with you further outside of GSC, the real purposes of this panel are to give people who have prepared game ideas to the point where they are ready for presentation an opportunity to see how the TV world works and to get feedback on developing their ideas.
It should be an invaluable experience for those who are serious about shephearding a concept to the marketplace. Those selected to particiapte will present their games under circumstances similar to how a real pitch works and then have some dialogue with the industry folks about things such as: where the idea may need to be further developed, where any problems in play and judging may be, how the idea can be made more commercially viable, and even suggestions on how to improve the idea's presentation as you work towards the next steps of making a formal pitch to a buyer.
Sorry, but I have big, big problems with this for a variety of both ethical and legal reasons. But hey, I don't have a horse in this race as I would never pitch an idea at such a venue.
Speaking as a veteran of game show pitches (granted, I'm talking about traditional studio games) I can say that step #1 in developing a game is to play it over and over and over and over again in your living room and work out the kinks at that stage. I foresee games coming in which look good on paper and which work in the creator's head but which are not even close to the pitch stage for any number of reasons. That's just one of the problems I foresee.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 05:23 PM\'] I foresee games coming in which look good on paper and which work in the creator's head but which are not even close to the pitch stage for any number of reasons. That's just one of the problems I foresee. [/quote]
Are you kidding? That's the whole reason I'd wanna SEE it. This should be comedy of the highest order! :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 08:29 PM\'] [quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 05:23 PM\'] I foresee games coming in which look good on paper and which work in the creator's head but which are not even close to the pitch stage for any number of reasons. That's just one of the problems I foresee. [/quote]
Are you kidding? That's the whole reason I'd wanna SEE it. This should be comedy of the highest order! :) [/quote]
You'd pitch "Dumpster Hunt" and "What's That Smell?" just to see the reaction, wouldn't you? :-D
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 07:29 PM\'] [quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 05:23 PM\'] I foresee games coming in which look good on paper and which work in the creator's head but which are not even close to the pitch stage for any number of reasons. That's just one of the problems I foresee. [/quote]
Are you kidding? That's the whole reason I'd wanna SEE it. This should be comedy of the highest order! :) [/quote]
I hope you're there. I'd like to meet you. Especially to see and hear your reaction when someone does pitch a Plinko show. My airplane and hotel reservations are confirmed. Since this Congrefs will have star power, I can't wait for mid-August to get here. Plus, I'll get to meet some of you.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 04:29 PM\'] [quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 05:23 PM\'] I foresee games coming in which look good on paper and which work in the creator's head but which are not even close to the pitch stage for any number of reasons. That's just one of the problems I foresee. [/quote]
Are you kidding? That's the whole reason I'd wanna SEE it. This should be comedy of the highest order! :) [/quote]
Exactly! If that's the case, Bob Boden and I will be fighting for the Simon Cowell role!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 05:33 PM\'] You'd pitch "Dumpster Hunt" and "What's That Smell?" just to see the reaction, wouldn't you? :-D [/quote]
Bah. I would SELL Dumpster Hunt and What's That Smell?. These are the same jokers who are giving Frank Nicotero a paycheck.
[quote name=\'"Don Howard\' date=\' Jul 2 2004, 05:51 PM"\']I hope you're there. I'd like to meet you. Especially to see and hear your reaction when someone does pitch a Plinko show.[/quote]
I can't make it, I have double root canal surgery I've been looking forward to. :)
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This appeared in the Los Angeles Times a few years back. Judge for yourselves.
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WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE?: A producer of reality TV shows is suing Dick Clark Productions and Fox Entertainment Group, saying the idea for the show "Greed" was stolen from him.
Jefferson Lanz says in his Los Angeles Superior Court suit that he created the prototype for the show and registered a manuscript with the Writers Guild in 1991. Among the features of his prototype, Lanz says, are several characteristics picked up in the show. The greediest player wins by eliminating other players and stealing their prizes. The players climb to the top of a tower to win: In Lanz's manuscripts it's called the "mountain of moola;" on "Greed, it's the "tower of greed." Players can challenge each other to life and death situations, which Lanz called the "Crusher" and "Greed" calls the "Terminator."
Lanz says he pitched his idea to Dick Clark Productions, and wrote a treatment for the people now involved in the production of the show "Greed." He was stunned, the suit says, to read in the trade magazines in October that "Greed" had been picked up by Fox. He seeks unspecified damages, charging fraud, conversion and breach of confidence.
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In the mid '70's Chuck Barris had outlined a different idea for a show called "Greed" in a TV Guide article. I don't know if Chuck was concerned when the Fox show came out, but maybe there is nothing new under the sun.
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Oh, the stories are endless. I actually sold what I thought was a totally original game idea to a prominent game show producer whose name we all know. I had yet to decide between 2 names I was alternating between, "Picture This" and "Get The Picture".
We did office run-thrus with contestants. The producer made some great tweaks to the idea and then made informal presentations of the idea to two network programmers. Shortly thereafter a friend told me she was hired to be a contestant on a pilot called "Win, Lose or Draw" with amazing similarities to the game I created. And 3 months later I was hired as a run-through contestant at Group W to present "Get The Picture". I was crazed - both my idea and even one of my titles were stolen.
After I calmed down and had conversations with people higher up the game show food chain I came to understand that there are only so many concepts that can be turned into a game and they are continually "created" again and again in varying incarnations. I even learned that at least one of the titles I "created" had been used before.
EDITORIAL:
For myself, I'm convinced that everything that can be done with Q&A, words, numbers, prices, pictures and cards has been done already either on-air or in the office of at least one producer in the past 50+ years of TV game shows. The great and not so great minds in TV game shows have spent millions of hours cumulatively trying to invent a new wheel. They all turn out to be round with spokes, and all bear at least a moderate resemblence to something that has been on-air or piloted before.
I think the inventive and memorable presentation and/or concept within which the game is played is what gives a show marketability. Examples, great and not so great, run the gamut from the A&Q variation of Q&A that is "Jeopardy!" to the arithmetic hocus pocus accompanying the simple asking of riddles that was "Jackpot". Look at the great TPiR games that are simple at their core but truly inventive and engaging.
Now what the hell were we talking about?
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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While I'm still leery about the legal aspects of the Pitch Session, I'm going to give it a try. I agree with Randy's editorial -- I'm not going to pretend my concept is completely original, but it's creative enough to be different. Of course, I've picked the concept that I've already produced several hours of for my college's TV station, just in case.
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Scott Robinson
Looking forward to having holes poked in his format
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I'm convinced that everything that can be done with Q&A, words, numbers, prices, pictures and cards has been done already either on-air or in the office of at least one producer in the past 50+ years of TV game shows. The great and not so great minds in TV game shows have spent millions of hours cumulatively trying to invent a new wheel. They all turn out to be round with spokes, and all bear at least a moderate resemblence to something that has been on-air or piloted before.
... or flat-out rejected.
What Randy says is so true. Add to the list: matching/predicting/identifying other peoples' responses (Match Game/Family Feud/Newlywed Game/Tattletales/Mindreaders/Card Sharks/Hot Potato/He Said, She Said).
I've told the story before that the original end game of Puzzlers had to be changed because it was identical to the end game of Bob Stewart's Chain Reaction.
And with all of the millions of person-hours that have been devoted to reinventing the wheel over the years, what's one of the most popular and longest-running games on TV? Hangman.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 07:33 PM\']You'd pitch "Dumpster Hunt" and "What's That Smell?" just to see the reaction, wouldn't you? :-D[/quote]
"For two-point-two million dollars... IS IT TUNA? Is it?!"
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[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' date=\'Jul 5 2004, 11:45 PM\'] [quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 07:33 PM\']You'd pitch "Dumpster Hunt" and "What's That Smell?" just to see the reaction, wouldn't you? :-D[/quote]
"For two-point-two million dollars... IS IT TUNA? Is it?!" [/quote]
You're new here, so you don't know that I would NEVER play What's That Smell? for that kind of money. But otherwise, it appears you have the concept down solid! ;)
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Just off the phone with the organizers of GSC and want to spread the word that this is shaping up to be a bigger event than first envisioned... by far. Barker IS confirmed to appear, as are Tom Kennedy and Jack Narz. And watch for word of a half-a-dozen additional VIPs added to speak at the lunch awards. They include hosts, fave panelists and a superstar producer. I'll post the names when I get an "OK".
Todd Newton should be joining me for some Sunday morning panels that I'm helping to organize. Bob Boden, David Ruprecht and other notable cool folk are scheduled to participate.
Shameless plugging? No. I know that the organizers are anxious to get the word out and have been working hard to drum up publicity for the weekend. It should be fun... and it's only 90 minutes from "TPIR-LIVE" in San Diego ;-)
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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a superstar producer
Wow, so they're going to thaw out old man Goodson! There must be something to that cryogenics stuff!
OK, if it isn't Goodson then who could it be? Merrill Heatter? Bob Stewart? Monty? Merv? Though he is not a packager, Roger Dobkowitz certainly qualifies as a superstar.
Let the anticipation build!
Jay Wolpert? Dick Clark? Ralph Andrews -- NOT!
Though he technically qualifies as a producer and is a superstar, I don't think Barker qualifies as a "superstar producer".
Bob Boden?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 12:30 AM\']
a superstar producer
Wow, so they're going to thaw out old man Goodson! There must be something to that cryogenics stuff!
OK, if it isn't Goodson then who could it be? Merrill Heatter? Bob Stewart? Monty? Merv? Though he is not a packager, Roger Dobkowitz certainly qualifies as a superstar.
Let the anticipation build!
Jay Wolpert? Dick Clark? Ralph Andrews -- NOT!
Though he technically qualifies as a producer, and is a superstar, I don't think Barker qualifies as a "superstar producer".
Bob Boden?[/quote]
H. Winkler?
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H. Winkler?
If H. Winkler qualifies as a game show producer then I qualify as a rabbi.
If he qualifies as a superstar producer then I qualify as a superstar rabbi.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 21 2004, 10:44 PM\']
H. Winkler?
If H. Winkler qualifies as a game show producer then I qualify as a rabbi.
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Forgive this heathen, Father...
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Wait no longer. Add to Barker, Kennedy and Narz (who will be speaking to honor Ralph Edwards; son Gary Edwards will receive the award) the following greats who will be honoring Bill Cullen:
Dick Clark, Bob Stewart, Betty White, and Jayne Meadows. Fred Wostbrock may even get teary-eyed speaking of the man who meant so much to him. Ann Cullen will accept the award for Bill.
Most of these folks will likely be available for a little meet and greet, and perhaps may sign your copy of Fred and Steve Ryan's new book which will be available.
I originally said it half in jest, but this may be the closest thing to a game show Woodstock! (Don't take the brown acid).
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 04:52 AM\'] I originally said it half in jest, but this may be the closest thing to a game show Woodstock! (Don't take the brown acid).
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Wow! This will be a long three weeks in anticipation of all this. I am so glad I decided to attend. This will be perpetual bliss. Kudos all around to the planning committee. Can't wait to meet the all-stars plus the Invision gang that shows up.
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Michael Davies?
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Well I moved some mountains after I saw that lineup last night. Erika and I are coming to the GSC! It is very nutty. We are flying back from London to Orlando and hopping on another plane three hours later bound for LAX. We will be there for all of Sunday's fun and the TPiR and Jep! tapings.
Please say "Hi" if you see me and I promise to do the same. We should all wear name tags. lol.
Tim :-)
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[quote name=\'Timsterino\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 09:38 AM\'] Well I moved some mountains after I saw that lineup last night. Erika and I are coming to the GSC! It is very nutty. We are flying back from London to Orlando and hopping on another plane three hours later bound for LAX. We will be there for all of Sunday's fun and the TPiR and Jep! tapings.
Please say "Hi" if you see me and I promise to do the same. We should all wear name tags. lol.
Tim :-) [/quote]
Are you still able to register even though the dealine was lastweek?
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[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 10:47 AM\'] Are you still able to register even though the dealine was lastweek? [/quote]
Yeah, what he said. This edition of the Congress is too good to pass up.
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 12:01 PM\'] [quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 10:47 AM\'] Are you still able to register even though the dealine was lastweek? [/quote]
Yeah, what he said. This edition of the Congress is too good to pass up. [/quote]
I sent the payment through Paypal with my info. As soon as I get confirmation from Paul, I will post that here. I registered without even looking at the deadline. Pretty smart of me, not.
I now see the 7/15 deadline. I do not think it will be a problem, but I will make sure and ask Paul about the deadline.
Tim :-)
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Forget the celebs; hearing Bob Stewart speak will be worth 10 times the price of admission alone.
Randy: next year Merv, 'kay? Or Monty will do.
Klauss: you're in charge of getting J.W. one of these years.
Randy: will anyone be taping this (like a professional ENG crew)?
Clementson: still working on thawing out Goodson.
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[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' date=\'Jul 6 2004, 01:45 AM\'] [quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Jul 2 2004, 07:33 PM\']You'd pitch "Dumpster Hunt" and "What's That Smell?" just to see the reaction, wouldn't you? :-D[/quote]
"For two-point-two million dollars... IS IT TUNA? Is it?!" [/quote]
<BZZZZ>
No, I'm sorry...But you were soooo close! It was *NOT* Charlie Tuna, of "Scrabble" fame, but what Charlie HAD for lunch!
The correct answer was a 2-day old Taco Bean Burrito!
Control goes back to the red team...
Seriously, if I had a little extra spending cash, I'd make a beeline out there (I've got a free round trip for frequent flier miles, it's just all of those other expenses I don't have freebies for!)
Hopefully, if they allow videocameras to roll, someone will stock up on tapes & batteries and have that tape rolling from start to finish -- I'm sure there will be plenty of us who would pay for at least the highlights.
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Forget the celebs; hearing Bob Stewart speak will be worth 10 times the price of admission alone.
Fascinating man and my vote for the single greatest game creator ever.
Randy: next year Merv, 'kay? Or Monty will do.
Monty's an easier "get", through Fred.
Randy: will anyone be taping this (like a professional ENG crew)?
There wil be cameras, but for financial reasons there will be no pro crew.
Clementson: still working on thawing out Goodson.
And break up his weekly card game with Disney?
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 12:01 PM\'] [quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 10:47 AM\'] Are you still able to register even though the dealine was lastweek? [/quote]
Yeah, what he said. This edition of the Congress is too good to pass up. [/quote]
I received an e-mail confirmation back from Paul Bailey from the PayPal I sent him this morning confirming my registration. If you want to register, you should do it asap.
Also, if you book at the Burbank Hilton hotel there is a discount on registration. I ended up going to Priceline and getting $60 per night at the Glendale Hilton about 8 Miles away. I am on a very strict budget.
Tim :-)
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[quote name=\'Timsterino\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 08:31 PM\'] I received an e-mail confirmation back from Paul Bailey from the PayPal I sent him this morning confirming my registration. If you want to register, you should do it asap.
Also, if you book at the Burbank Hilton hotel there is a discount on registration. I ended up going to Priceline and getting $60 per night at the Glendale Hilton about 8 Miles away. I am on a very strict budget.
Tim :-) [/quote]
Did you get an e-mail from Paul or just a receipt on where you paid him. I just want to make sure that you are definitely confirmed before I attempt to register. This sounds like such an awesome event. I am visiting LA anyway in September and I just can't see spending that kind of dough so close to each other, but I am sure that it would definitely be worth it.
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[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 10:24 PM\'] [quote name=\'Timsterino\' date=\'Jul 22 2004, 08:31 PM\'] I received an e-mail confirmation back from Paul Bailey from the PayPal I sent him this morning confirming my registration. If you want to register, you should do it asap.
Also, if you book at the Burbank Hilton hotel there is a discount on registration. I ended up going to Priceline and getting $60 per night at the Glendale Hilton about 8 Miles away. I am on a very strict budget.
Tim :-) [/quote]
Did you get an e-mail from Paul or just a receipt on where you paid him. I just want to make sure that you are definitely confirmed before I attempt to register. This sounds like such an awesome event. I am visiting LA anyway in September and I just can't see spending that kind of dough so close to each other, but I am sure that it would definitely be worth it. [/quote]
The e-mail was from Paul personally. I asked him in the Pay Pal screen to e-mail me back with confirmation which he did. He said I am definitely confirmed. If you have any other questions please feel free to e-mail me at timerika@bellsouth.net
Tim :-)
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Randy: next year Merv, 'kay? Or Monty will do.
Monty's an easier "get", through Fred.
Not gonna go there. Wouldn't be prudent.
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I just received another e-mail regarding registration for the Game Show Congress. The form has been updated with a new deadline of August 1st. So get your registrations in if you plan on going.
Tim :-)
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There is a slight bummer, however. I've just learned that Bob Hilton will be unable to attend. My source is indisputable: Bob Hilton himself.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jul 25 2004, 10:58 AM\'] There is a slight bummer, however. I've just learned that Bob Hilton will be unable to attend. My source is indisputable: Bob Hilton himself. [/quote]
What is Bob up to these days, and don't say "about six-foot-one"?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 26 2004, 11:39 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jul 25 2004, 10:58 AM\'] There is a slight bummer, however. I've just learned that Bob Hilton will be unable to attend. My source is indisputable: Bob Hilton himself. [/quote]
What is Bob up to these days, and don't say "about six-foot-one"?[/quote]
Last I saw a few years ago, he's been acting more of a househusband and has gotten into writing. He also wrote a book in 2002 (http://\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761563628/qid=1090860852/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-8940158-9810332?v=glance&s=books\") which is presently out of print called "Weekend Dad."
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jul 26 2004, 09:55 AM\'] [quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 26 2004, 11:39 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jul 25 2004, 10:58 AM\'] There is a slight bummer, however. I've just learned that Bob Hilton will be unable to attend. My source is indisputable: Bob Hilton himself. [/quote]
What is Bob up to these days, and don't say "about six-foot-one"?[/quote]
Last I saw a few years ago, he's been acting more of a househusband and has gotten into writing. He also wrote a book in 2002 (http://\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761563628/qid=1090860852/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-8940158-9810332?v=glance&s=books\") which is presently out of print called "Weekend Dad." [/quote]
So he's "between newscasts".