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In digging through Zap2it, (yes I figured out how to make it go more than 2 weeks in advance) I did find a couple things.
That's the Question debuts on October 2 at 6pm eastern replacing Hollywood Squares which will be back to weekends only.
As we all know, What's My Line returns to late Sunday/early Monday at 3am eastern. The 3:30 slot will remain a rotating "Game of the Week" sort of thing. On the night of October 1 we'll see an episode of Double Dare with Alex Trebek, then on the night of the 8th the only surviving episode of Number Please.
Greg
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[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'130884\' date=\'Sep 9 2006, 11:55 PM\']
On the night of October 1 we'll see an episode of Double Dare with Alex Trebek[/quote]
Damn! They last time they aired this was what...December 31, 1999?
Did it ever get a regular airing?
I can almost forgive GSN for their horrid 50 Shows We Have in Our Library special.
Almost.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'130899\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 09:52 AM\']
[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'130884\' date=\'Sep 9 2006, 11:55 PM\']
On the night of October 1 we'll see an episode of Double Dare with Alex Trebek[/quote]
Damn! They last time they aired this was what...December 31, 1999?
Did it ever get a regular airing?[/quote]
First question: It was a Game of the Week. I don't recall if it aired as a GotW in 1999 or 2000. If it was in '99, then you're correct about the last time DD saw the light of day was in the Y2Play marathon.
Second question: Yes, it aired in the middle of the night on weekends in 1997.
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WHOA! Now I have to buy more tapes...
I guess you can call this GSN's "We're sorry..." message.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'130910\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 11:16 AM\']
WHOA! Now I have to buy more tapes...
I guess you can call this GSN's "We're sorry..." message.
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And isn't tonite the airing of ABC "Password"?
/Okay, so techinically it's tomorrow morning.
//And I accept GSN's apology. :-P
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'130911\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 11:18 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'130910\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 11:16 AM\']
WHOA! Now I have to buy more tapes...
I guess you can call this GSN's "We're sorry..." message.
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And isn't tonite the airing of ABC "Password"?
/Okay, so technically it's tomorrow morning.
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Yes, indeed. Tonight's the night (tomorrow's the morning).
And I'll be tickled as a tomato with whatever episode they give us.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'130915\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 11:10 AM\']
Yes, indeed. Tonight's the night (tomorrow's the morning).
And I'll be tickled as a tomato with whatever episode they give us.
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Me too, my appetite only whetted by that 1975 finale posted on "Page O'Clips." If it's an orange set ep it'll be even better but I'd love to see whatever they show.
BTW am I the only one who thought the lightning round on that '75 finale was especially butt-clinchingly suspenseful, with the wrong word being guessed and everything?
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'130916\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 12:20 PM\']BTW am I the only one who thought the lightning round on that '75 finale was especially butt-clinchingly suspenseful, with the wrong word being guessed and everything?[/quote]
No, just like I can't be the only person who noticed (back in 1975, and every time I've watched it since) that the clock mysteriously slows (stops?) near the end.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'130917\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 12:00 PM\']
No, just like I can't be the only person who noticed (back in 1975, and every time I've watched it since) that the clock mysteriously slows (stops?) near the end.
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I can top that: I wish there was a tape to back this up or not, but I can just about swear I once saw the countdown clock on the bonus round of Baffle run forward instead of backwards. The contestant won, of course.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'130917\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 10:00 AM\']
No, just like I can't be the only person who noticed (back in 1975, and every time I've watched it since) that the clock mysteriously slows (stops?) near the end.
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Now, are you talking aside from the flub they made when they mistakenly awarded the win? Maybe they paused the clock to make up for that?
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Hmm..thats interesting. I can't wait for it tonight and as for the schedule..all I got to say is the first episode of Double Dare that was shown at pageoclips got me to go "I need another blank tape it looks like". Can't wait for it.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'130926\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 02:45 PM\']Now, are you talking aside from the flub they made when they mistakenly awarded the win? Maybe they paused the clock to make up for that?[/quote]
I don't have it in front of me, but my memory is that "they" didn't mistakenly award the win. The celebrity mistakenly thought he had won (when he read 'single' instead of 'shingle'), and Allen quickly got him to look at the word again. Were they fudging the clock because of that? Were they fudging the clock because they wanted to go out with a win? Who knows? But they did fudge the clock.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'130933\' date=\'Sep 10 2006, 03:33 PM\']
The celebrity mistakenly thought he had won (when he read 'single' instead of 'shingle'), and Allen quickly got him to look at the word again.
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Now I wish I could see the clip again, because IIRC they cued the lights and such as well, which to me leaves at least some culpability on the production.
Your point is well-taken, though.
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I think whomever was controlling the clock thought that the celeb had won as well and he had stopped the clock. It may have took him a couple of extra seconds to realize what had happened to reset the clock. It could also have something to do with the fact that they wanted to go out with a win, as you could hear Allen try to say "Give 'em five more seconds" when the buzzer went off and the contestant said "shingle." It was probably a case of all of the above.
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Now I wish I could see the clip again
It's back up. Notice that right before the contestant pulled out the word shingle, the clock froze at :01. You could even here the "tick" signifying that a second had elapsed, but the clock was still at :01.
As for the return of the Game of the Week, at least GSN appears to be attempting to make amends with the classics fans.
I wonder if these rare series will only come from the G-T library....
--Jamie
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There was a lot of weirdness there--the clock was stopped at :17, then restarted shortly thereafter, but the word wasn't put back up until about :15, and Allen told the confused celeb that he has "13 seconds" left (as it continued to count). They then stopped the clock for about 5 seconds, presumably to make up for the confusion. Then the clock was frozen at :01, but the buzzer sounded anyway, and the contestant provided the password a split second later.
I say, to heck with the clock--the production staff wasn't paying attention, and messed up the players' mental game. No problem awarding that money, last show or not.
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For collectors who want the date info, the GSN ABC Password aired October 23, 1973.
Maybe GSN will acquire and air the Valentine's Day '72 episode some time down the road.
I don't understand why they'd have this episode and not the other, or even the finale for that matter. But then again, they should have episode 3 of Blank Check too..
--Jamie
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'130996\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 02:09 AM\']
For collectors who want the date info, the GSN ABC Password aired October 23, 1973.
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Thanks.
[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'130996\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 02:09 AM\']
Maybe GSN will acquire and air the Valentine's Day '72 episode some time down the road.
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It'd be nice, but it's one of those many things that while I'd love for it to happen, just doesn't seem that likely
[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'130996\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 02:09 AM\']
I don't understand why they'd have this episode and not the other, or even the finale for that matter.
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Maybe the others aren't in broadcastable quality at the moment (if you notice, the video on THIS episode isn't exactly the most superb ever, and there's been a few glitches)
[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'130996\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 02:09 AM\']
But then again, they should have episode 3 of Blank Check too..
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One of those shows I've never seen, due to the various reasons out that, but that I'd certainly like to.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'130996\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 02:09 AM\']
Maybe GSN will acquire and air the Valentine's Day '72 episode some time down the road.
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Who were the guests on that one?
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As for the return of the Game of the Week, at least GSN appears to be attempting to make amends with the classics fans.
I wonder if these rare series will only come from the G-T library....
I'm grateful if they bring something like this back, but I hope they'd showcase series from ALL their libraries. If they don't want to spend money to license a whole season of a series, it shouldn't cost too much to just air one episode once in a while. They did it for the top 50...
Maybe GSN will acquire and air the Valentine's Day '72 episode some time down the road.
I don't understand why they'd have this episode and not the other, or even the finale for that matter. But then again, they should have episode 3 of Blank Check too..
Hasn't it been mentioned that sometimes these shows are in private collections and maybe the networks don't have access to them? For that matter, we don't know for sure that GSN DOESN'T have it.
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Hasn't it been mentioned that sometimes these shows are in private collections and maybe the networks don't have access to them?
If I'm not mistaken, the ABC Password that GSN aired came from a private collection.
--Jamie
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Here's my question about these lost episodes: we know some of the TV museums have some of these things. Is there anything that stops the righsholders (say, Fremantle) from going to said museum and claiming the old tapes?
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'131043\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 10:23 AM\']
Here's my question about these lost episodes: we know some of the TV museums have some of these things. Is there anything that stops the righsholders (say, Fremantle) from going to said museum and claiming the old tapes?
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I'm sure they work with the rightsholders when the tapes and films and kinescopes are donated, and sometimes they even come from the rightsholders themselves. As far as a later owner trying to be an "Indian giver" with them, the legal headaches and ugly PR that would come out of such a move would probably stop that idea in its tracks. OTOH, if the rightsholder is doing some kind of special and wants a copy to use in the special, I'm sure said museums would cooperate.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'131002\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 02:44 AM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'130996\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 02:09 AM\']
Maybe GSN will acquire and air the Valentine's Day '72 episode some time down the road.
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Who were the guests on that one?
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Dixon:
It features Sheila MacRae and Martin Milner.
-Kevin
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Kevin may be interested in this, if no one else. I picked up a DVD of an NBC "Shirley Temple Show" from 1961, which was done on color videotape and looked pretty good, from my vantage point. It was an adaptation of "The Little Mermaid" with (and here comes the game show reference) Don "Anything You Can Do" Harron as the Prince. It all depends on the rights holders as to what exists. Shirley Temple apparently kept her videotapes.
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[quote name=\'TwoInchQuad\' post=\'131119\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 05:17 PM\']
It features Sheila MacRae and Martin Milner.
-Kevin
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I'd like to hear more about this 2/14/72 Password. How do we know it exists? Where was it sighted? What shape did it appear to be in, kinescope or tape?
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Apparently it and the Klugman/Somers episode are in similar condition. I won't mention who (mainly because I don't know exactly who), but a lucky few of us has seen this episode (not me).
Greg
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'131060\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 01:02 PM\']
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'131043\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 10:23 AM\']
Here's my question about these lost episodes: we know some of the TV museums have some of these things. Is there anything that stops the righsholders (say, Fremantle) from going to said museum and claiming the old tapes?[/quote]I'm sure they work with the rightsholders when the tapes and films and kinescopes are donated, and sometimes they even come from the rightsholders themselves. As far as a later owner trying to be an "Indian giver" with them, the legal headaches and ugly PR that would come out of such a move would probably stop that idea in its tracks. [/quote]
I don't think Chris is suggesting being an "Indian giver" so much as just getting a copy back from them if it had any airable value.
Meanwhile, I'd been looking for a thread in which to mention this, so here goes. On the Mr. Peepers DVD collection available in stores, there's a credit on the back saying essentially that the episodes came from the UCLA Film and Television Archive. I'm sure everybody jumped through all the right permission hoops to get a DVD release, but the simple fact that shows from the UCLA collection were used to make a home video release opens up all sorts of lovely fantasies about what COULD come out of there!
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[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'131194\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 11:12 PM\']Apparently it and the Klugman/Somers episode are in similar condition. I won't mention who (mainly because I don't know exactly who), but a lucky few of us has seen this episode (not me).[/quote]
I'm willing to be a little less circumspect. I've seen a copy of it and it's not bad. The copy I saw was of worse quality than what GSN aired last night, but I probably saw a third or fourth generation copy. Chances are the "original" is significantly better.
It would be wonderful to imagine that GSN will do our detective work for us and unearth some more of these gems, but I'm afraid what happened last night will be the exception rather than the rule. It sounds like the next few weeks of "special" shows are just going to be more episodes of things that they've aired before, just not often. Now if you've not seen them, you're obviously going to be in for a treat. But for those of us who've been watching the station for classic stuff ever since they first went on the air, they won't be nearly the treat that this Password episode was.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'131203\' date=\'Sep 11 2006, 10:44 PM\']
I don't think Chris is suggesting being an "Indian giver" so much as just getting a copy back from them if it had any airable value.
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Now that would be entirely possible and likely and I think I've even heard of this happening, not just the Mr. Peepers example you listed but a few others. (Some of the 1950s live dramas, for instance.) That may even be covered in the agreement that donates the materials in the first place.
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Update: the post What's My Line show on the night of 10/15 is I've Got a Secret (no clue on which version.)
Greg
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Further update: The night of the 22nd at 3:30a eastern will be an episode of He Said, She Said.
Greg
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That will be nice. GSN wasn't working well (I hate Cablevision...) when it aired last, so now I'll finally get to see it.
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The night of 10/29 will be another episode of Password (no idea which version, speculate at will).
Greg
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[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'133009\' date=\'Sep 30 2006, 12:28 AM\']
The night of 10/29 will be another episode of Password (no idea which version, speculate at will).
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Steve Beverly's site says it's a black and white episode.