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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: mparrish11 on July 13, 2010, 04:47:56 PM
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Looks like TVPMM wants to get the theme from the US Copyright Office and is testing the waters WRT donations...
1) Would the USCO actually have the tape? If so...might there be other missing gems?
2) Would you donate to TVPMM for obtaining (as I've heard it mentioned here before), the "Holy Grail" of GS Themes?
Twitter Feed from TVPMM (13:02PM PST 07/13/2010):
Considering a fund to obtain the music from WHEW! from the US Copyright office. We have a release but not the additional funds to obtain...
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I'm going to make a guess and say all they may have is a lead sheet.
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Didn't this guy have a donation fund for The Cross-Wits restoration?
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I encourage all interested to make a donation to the museum.
Rest assured it is run by an honest and passionate gentleman whom I've known for about a decade. I wholeheartedly endorse and support his efforts!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'244059\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 05:24 PM\']Didn't this guy have a donation fund for The Cross-Wits restoration?[/quote]
I don't think he had a fund set up for the Cross-Wits restoration...
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The fund he had set up was for the BMI license.
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We're going to bang the drum again when it comes time for donations to the BMI fund.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'244058\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 04:05 PM\']I'm going to make a guess and say all they may have is a lead sheet.[/quote]
A quick search of the copyright database turns up only an episode of the show on 3/4" videotape (it doesn't specify an airdate or anything) with an attached 21 page description, and a 2 page trumpet section of sheet music. Not sure what he's trying to accomplish here.
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TVPMM has created a status page for trying to acquire the music.
http://tvmusicmuseum.com/whew/welcome.html (http://\"http://tvmusicmuseum.com/whew/welcome.html\")
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Music Composed by Alan Thicke
Did not save a master reel. He didn't even remember doing the show.
Wow. Startling.
Now I know Bud Austin's real name (Harold Augenblick). Almost as startling.
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Wow - maybe this is one of those instances where it really did disappear off the face of the earth. But...they found the entire Hollywood Squares theme - so you never know!
At least this page confirms that all the episodes exist. Maybe we'll be lucky enough to see them again someday.
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Is he really claiming that a Web site is in its "37th year"?
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The Museum is. What that consists of is an exercise left to the reader.
Mike Malone's contribution sounds like a heartbreaker. I appreciate the handiwork over there; hope it turns up something.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'245033\' date=\'Jul 26 2010, 12:01 PM\']The Museum is. What that consists of is an exercise left to the reader.[/quote]
Indeed. I'm pleased to announce the 30th Anniversary of the Chris Lemon Arcade Token Museum, celebrating exonumia since 1980!
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'245030\' date=\'Jul 26 2010, 01:54 PM\']
Music Composed by Alan Thicke
Did not save a master reel. He didn't even remember doing the show.
Wow. Startling.
Now I know Bud Austin's real name (Harold Augenblick). Almost as startling.
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Bud would be 90 if he hadn't died in 1986. (according to imdb.com)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'245036\' date=\'Jul 26 2010, 03:30 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'245030\' date=\'Jul 26 2010, 01:54 PM\']
Music Composed by Alan Thicke
Did not save a master reel. He didn't even remember doing the show.
Wow. Startling.
Now I know Bud Austin's real name (Harold Augenblick). Almost as startling.
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Bud would be 90 if he hadn't died in 1986. (according to imdb.com)
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I bet Edd Kalehoff would never make that statement!
I need to ask Terry if the materials in the US Copyright Office are just sheet music or the actual pieces of music used on the show.
I am glad I cobbled together a version of the closing theme back in 1980.
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Wasn't there a rumor that Alan Thicke threw masters for the Whew! theme into a fire during an argument with his wife?
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'245114\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 09:31 PM\']Wasn't there a rumor that Alan Thicke threw masters for the Whew! theme into a fire during an argument with his wife?[/quote]
I have never, ever heard this before in my life.
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[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'245114\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 06:31 PM\']Wasn't there a rumor that Alan Thicke threw masters for the Whew! theme into a fire during an argument with his wife?[/quote]It is entirely possible that somebody invented such a rumor.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245116\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 09:20 PM\'][quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'245114\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 06:31 PM\']Wasn't there a rumor that Alan Thicke threw masters for the Whew! theme into a fire during an argument with his wife?[/quote]It is entirely possible that somebody invented such a rumor.
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If I recall, he later went bowling with one of his buddies.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'245117\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 10:07 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245116\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 09:20 PM\'][quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'245114\' date=\'Jul 27 2010, 06:31 PM\']Wasn't there a rumor that Alan Thicke threw masters for the Whew! theme into a fire during an argument with his wife?[/quote]It is entirely possible that somebody invented such a rumor.[/quote]
If I recall, he later went bowling with one of his buddies.[/quote]
Win.
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I can easily cite the source of that rumor... from an old, old copy of the TVPMM site in the Internet Archive (http://\"http://web.archive.org/web/20030821210105/tvmusicmuseum.com/FAQ6.htm\"):
We have found through our collecting efforts that "life " plays a key role in the fate of existing recorded works. Some examples are:
a. The composer that was married to a popular singer composer that filed for a divorce. As their relationship deteriorated and divorce became inevitable their co-creations became an object of anger. During fights scores were burned, analog tapes were thrown in the trash and no known works survived from this popular couple. Thats until we stepped in and recovered an album of several classic works from daytime television. To maintain their privacy we can not name the specific works but the museum holds the only known original of their recordings.
Someone along the way drew the conclusion that the couple referred to are Alan Thicke and Gloria Loring (which, honestly, makes perfect sense).
No clue on the validity of the original item though... or if Thicke and Loring are indeed who it's referring to.
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[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'245123\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 12:37 AM\']I can easily cite the source of that rumor... from an old, old copy of the TVPMM site in the Internet Archive (http://\"http://web.archive.org/web/20030821210105/tvmusicmuseum.com/FAQ6.htm\"):
We have found through our collecting efforts that "life " plays a key role in the fate of existing recorded works. Some examples are:
a. The composer that was married to a popular singer composer that filed for a divorce. As their relationship deteriorated and divorce became inevitable their co-creations became an object of anger. During fights scores were burned, analog tapes were thrown in the trash and no known works survived from this popular couple. Thats until we stepped in and recovered an album of several classic works from daytime television. To maintain their privacy we can not name the specific works but the museum holds the only known original of their recordings.
Someone along the way drew the conclusion that the couple referred to are Alan Thicke and Gloria Loring (which, honestly, makes perfect sense).
No clue on the validity of the original item though... or if Thicke and Loring are indeed who it's referring to.
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I always thought it was Thicke and Loring when that item appeared back on TVPMM. Maybe that's why Thicke can't remember doing the music (painful mamories blotted out).
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Pretty interesting stuff. Didn't they do one of the Facts of Life themes as well? Granted that show was a lot more popular than Whew!, so saving the theme song on that show could be a totally different story.
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Yes - Facts of Life, Diff'rent Strokes and other sitcoms.
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The Facts of Life theme has a special place on this board :-)
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Years ago, I remember watching Alan Thicke on a few interview type shows. A frequent question from the interviewer would be, "I see from your bio here that you are a composer, especially for TV theme songs" (or something to that effect). The three TV shows that he'd almost always cite when answering that question were Diff'rent Strokes, The Facts of Life and (believe it or not) Wheel Of Fortune. He'd even go into the quick backstory on why Merv Griffin's people stopped using his Wheel theme after 1983.
So maybe he doesn't mention WHEW! because it's a show that very few people remember, rather than just emotional memory block.
Just my two Lincoln's.
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[quote name=\'Offshored2007\' post=\'245135\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 09:23 AM\'][quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'245123\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 12:37 AM\']I can easily cite the source of that rumor... from an old, old copy of the TVPMM site in the Internet Archive (http://\"http://web.archive.org/web/20030821210105/tvmusicmuseum.com/FAQ6.htm\"):
We have found through our collecting efforts that "life " plays a key role in the fate of existing recorded works. Some examples are:
a. The composer that was married to a popular singer composer that filed for a divorce. As their relationship deteriorated and divorce became inevitable their co-creations became an object of anger. During fights scores were burned, analog tapes were thrown in the trash and no known works survived from this popular couple. Thats until we stepped in and recovered an album of several classic works from daytime television. To maintain their privacy we can not name the specific works but the museum holds the only known original of their recordings.
Someone along the way drew the conclusion that the couple referred to are Alan Thicke and Gloria Loring (which, honestly, makes perfect sense).
No clue on the validity of the original item though... or if Thicke and Loring are indeed who it's referring to.
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I always thought it was Thicke and Loring when that item appeared back on TVPMM. Maybe that's why Thicke can't remember doing the music (painful mamories blotted out).
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Painful MEMORIES are one thing, but mamories? I'd see a gynecologist about that...
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[quote name=\'gamed121683\' post=\'245156\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 12:41 PM\']Painful MEMORIES are one thing, but mamories? I'd see a gynecologist about that...[/quote]
Of course you would, because girly parts are foreign to you.
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[quote name=\'gamed121683\' post=\'245154\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 10:38 AM\']So maybe he doesn't mention WHEW! because it's a show that very few people remember, rather than just emotional memory block.
Just my two Lincolns.[/quote]
Or maybe he doesn't want to tell about throwing the score in the fire (if that's what actually happened).
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'245188\' date=\'Jul 29 2010, 01:51 AM\'][quote name=\'gamed121683\' post=\'245154\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 10:38 AM\']So maybe he doesn't mention WHEW! because it's a show that very few people remember, rather than just emotional memory block.
Just my two Lincolns.[/quote]
Or maybe he doesn't want to tell about throwing the score in the fire (if that's what actually happened).
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I remember Thicke being on a talk show years ago and playing some of his themes on the piano, including "Wheel of Fortune", "Joker's Jive" and his sitcom themes.
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Or maybe he doesn't want to tell about throwing the score in the fire (if that's what actually happened).
I supposed he could just say that he doesn't know where all of his stuff is, or he didn't keep master copies of it all and leave it at that.
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Also comes to question where the 'missing' tracks from Thicke WOF are, such as the win cue, some more prize descriptions and those commercial outros.
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[quote name=\'gamed121683\' post=\'245156\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 01:41 PM\'][quote name=\'Offshored2007\' post=\'245135\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 09:23 AM\'][quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'245123\' date=\'Jul 28 2010, 12:37 AM\']I can easily cite the source of that rumor... from an old, old copy of the TVPMM site in the Internet Archive (http://\"http://web.archive.org/web/20030821210105/tvmusicmuseum.com/FAQ6.htm\"):
We have found through our collecting efforts that "life " plays a key role in the fate of existing recorded works. Some examples are:
a. The composer that was married to a popular singer composer that filed for a divorce. As their relationship deteriorated and divorce became inevitable their co-creations became an object of anger. During fights scores were burned, analog tapes were thrown in the trash and no known works survived from this popular couple. Thats until we stepped in and recovered an album of several classic works from daytime television. To maintain their privacy we can not name the specific works but the museum holds the only known original of their recordings.
Someone along the way drew the conclusion that the couple referred to are Alan Thicke and Gloria Loring (which, honestly, makes perfect sense).
No clue on the validity of the original item though... or if Thicke and Loring are indeed who it's referring to.
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I always thought it was Thicke and Loring when that item appeared back on TVPMM. Maybe that's why Thicke can't remember doing the music (painful mamories blotted out).
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Painful MEMORIES are one thing, but mamories? I'd see a gynecologist about that...
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Dam* spellcheck!