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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Julius on February 12, 2009, 02:14:19 PM
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So You think You Can Dance? host Cat Deeley will be filling in for Meredith all next week on Millionaire. According to Buzzer Blog, ABC was impressed so much by Cat guest hosting the show that she was offered the hosting gig of the long running game show entering its tenth year in America in August 2009. http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/rumor...of-millionaire/ (http://\"http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/rumor-control-cat-deeley-new-host-of-millionaire/\") , http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/cat-d...e-the-new-host/ (http://\"http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/cat-deeley-guest-hosts-millionaire-in-february-could-she-be-the-new-host/\")
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All I can say is good riddance to Meredith. Seeing the first big win on her version again, after the Perfect Showcase Bid disaster last December on Price, really put into perspective for me when you can tell someone can't host big wins.
That said, Cat Deeley? That is ... dubious ... at best. I'll give her a shot though.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208042\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 08:02 PM\']All I can say is good riddance to Meredith.[/quote]Of course.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208042\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 08:02 PM\']All I can say is good riddance to Meredith. Seeing the first big win on her version again, after the Perfect Showcase Bid disaster last December on Price, really put into perspective for me when you can tell someone can't host big wins.[/quote]
So you're basing her inability to host on something which happened 6 years ago? If that's the reason you don't like her as a host, you're really grasping at straws.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208042\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 08:02 PM\']
All I can say is good riddance to Meredith. Seeing the first big win on her version again, after the Perfect Showcase Bid disaster last December on Price, really put into perspective for me when you can tell someone can't host big wins.
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We get it, man...you don't like Meredith.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208042\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 05:02 PM\']
All I can say is good riddance to Meredith. Seeing the first big win on her version again, after the Perfect Showcase Bid disaster last December on Price, really put into perspective for me when you can tell someone can't host big wins.[/quote] You fail.
She hosted the win. That she failed to leap out of her chair and exclaim "ZOMFG you've won a million dollars!" like the female version of Bert Parks does not negate the facts.
Is that what those who dislike Meredith's hosting style want? Someone to yell "It's the right answer!" at the top of their lungs every step of the way? What about the idea that she's perhaps trying to stay reserved and composed because that's what the producers tell her to do? Or she wants to be dignified on screen?
That said, Cat Deeley? That is ... dubious ... at best. I'll give her a shot though.
How magnanimous of you. Hang on, I'll phone the Nobel Committee to get you on the short list for the Peace Prize. Yeesh.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'208050\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 09:53 PM\']
We get it, man...you don't like Meredith.
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What's wrong with Meredith? Grumpy Old Men...Rocky...The Penguin(!)
/Wait, what?
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'208060\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 10:10 PM\']
What's wrong with Meredith? Grumpy Old Men...Rocky...The Penguin(!)[/quote]
Time Enough At Last (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last\")
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'208062\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 10:17 PM\']Time Enough At Last (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last\")[/quote]Pardon my 18-year-old brain, but is it just me or does Burgess like a lot like Jerry Stiller in that Time Enough At Last still?
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'208063\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 10:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'208062\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 10:17 PM\']Time Enough At Last (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last\")[/quote]Pardon my 18-year-old brain, but is it just me or does Burgess like a lot like Jerry Stiller in that Time Enough At Last still?
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Now that you mention it, he really does.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'208062\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 10:17 PM\']
[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'208060\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 10:10 PM\']
What's wrong with Meredith? Grumpy Old Men...Rocky...The Penguin(!)[/quote]
Time Enough At Last (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last\")
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Always been partial to The Obsolete Man (http://\"http://www.cbs.com/classics/the_twilight_zone/video/video.php?cid=649555532&pid=VL5KIZDUNVaYHT24eg1rYVbPBkWVhryg&play=true\"), m'self.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208042\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 08:02 PM\']
All I can say is good riddance to Meredith. Seeing the first big win on her version again, after the Perfect Showcase Bid disaster last December on Price, really put into perspective for me when you can tell someone can't host big wins.
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I guess you prefer to see her every weekday morning on NBC.
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Not only is she guest-hosting all next week, there's also gonna be a marriage proposal on the 17th. Set your VCRs/DVRs/PVRs/Tivos accordingly for that event.
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I was only using that event as an example. She bores me to tears, always has. And I have seen a good few shows from this season.
Not that I appreciate getting jumped on for not totally condemning Cat Deeley's prospects >_>
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208095\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 08:51 AM\']
Not that I appreciate getting jumped on for not totally condemning Cat Deeley's prospects >_>[/quote]
If you think that's why you were jumped on, then you really didn't comprehend anything that was said above.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'208100\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 12:40 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208095\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 08:51 AM\']
Not that I appreciate getting jumped on for not totally condemning Cat Deeley's prospects >_>[/quote]
If you think that's why you were jumped on, then you really didn't comprehend anything that was said above.
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Oh, I know the majority of it was because of my constant whine. I probably (scratch that, certainly) had that much coming. I only really felt like the snark at my comment about giving Deeley a chance was uncalled for, honestly.
But yeah, I've learned my lesson. No more whining about Meredith. That's the last time.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208123\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 03:21 PM\']
But yeah, I've learned my lesson. No more whining about Meredith. That's the last time.[/quote]
You can whine all you like. I just think some people here would like you to cite more evidence than a single incident that happened many years ago.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'208125\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 06:27 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208123\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 03:21 PM\']
But yeah, I've learned my lesson. No more whining about Meredith. That's the last time.[/quote]
You can whine all you like. I just think some people here would like you to cite more evidence than a single incident that happened many years ago.
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She just bores me. I don't feel that she brings the right energy to the show.
She probably would be pretty good on a panel show though. That environment might be more suited to her.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208132\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 07:22 PM\']She just bores me. I don't feel that she brings the right energy to the show. [/quote]First, if that's what you think, why didn't you just say that in the beginning, as opposed to garbage like "she can't host big wins?" That's at least specific, even though I still disagree.
Second, what energy do you think should be brought to the show? I offered up turned-to-eleven mania, but I think that would be highly inappropriate for the $300 question.
She probably would be pretty good on a panel show though. That environment might be more suited to her.
She won a best host Emmy, right? Clearly someone thinks she's doing just fine.
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[quote name=\'Julius\' post=\'208017\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 11:14 AM\']
So You think You Can Dance? host Cat Deeley will be filling in for Meredith all next week on Millionaire. According to Buzzer Blog, ABC was impressed so much by Cat guest hosting the show that she was offered the hosting gig of the long running game show entering its tenth year in America in August 2009.[/quote]
Fortunately for her, since it's multiple choice, she won't have to ask the
(audience all shouts) JUDGES!!!
for any rulings.
(If you're not familiar with SYTYCD, Cat always introduces the judges by saying, "Here are your," and then the audience finishes the sentence. "The version I heard was," every time she tried to say the word in the first season, it came out more like "jidges".)
-- Don
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'208134\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 10:48 PM\']
She probably would be pretty good on a panel show though. That environment might be more suited to her.
She won a best host Emmy, right? Clearly someone thinks she's doing just fine.
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Or the Emmy voters screwed up. That's where I lean.
I'm not as...well, militant (it was the best I could think of)...in my dislike of Meredith as he is, but my problem with her is that she doesn't raise her excitement level accordingly.
She's not Regis, not by a long shot. She's got a different style. And yeah, she has her good points and she doesn't make herself the center of attention.
But where she fails- and this, as far as I'm concerned is what does her in- is in being a little too even keeled and aloof as the game goes on. I understand that's her style to be laid back and not stereotypical game show host, but I expect a little more out of a host when a contestant gets deeper into a game (especially when the top prize is $1,000,000 and a contestant reaches the level of the game where that becomes a possibility). Maybe it's tying into her being so laid back, maybe it's because she's just not that good at showing excitement. But if you've been host of a show for seven years and you're still doing the same things, IMO the latter is the case.
Everybody jumps on Drew Carey for his failings and he's only been on TPIR for a year and a half now. Why are so many people looking to give Meredith a free pass when she's been doing it for seven seasons?
And while I don't agree with the sentiment entirely that was made concerning Meredith's lack of big win hosting ability (namely the overly harsh criticism behind it), if you look at the basis of his point it kinda makes sense. I rewatched Meredith's two million dollar wins, and although she improved slightly I felt it really wasn't as played up as it probably needed to be from her side.
My opinion.
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Exhibit A in Meredith's ability to be properly excited: (Kevin Smith's win) (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EacV-ZTRFHI\")
Exhibit B, a stronger example: (Nancy Christy's win) (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xsCuFO17rM&feature=related\")
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'208137\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 11:50 PM\']
And while I don't agree with the sentiment entirely that was made concerning Meredith's lack of big win hosting ability (namely the overly harsh criticism behind it), if you look at the basis of his point it kinda makes sense. I rewatched Meredith's two million dollar wins, and although she improved slightly I felt it really wasn't as played up as it probably needed to be from her side.
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I rewatched the clips a bit ago of Meredith's two millionaires. She's laughing hysterically, screaming in excitement, and nearly in tears. I rewatched some of Regis's millionaires. He shouts that someone's won the million, gives them a check and a handshake, and moves. Don't exactly know what you're talking about.
Meredith's schtick is being calm, cool, and collected. Regis's schtick was being a smartass and yelling a lot randomly. I've always just preferred the cool-until-necessary delivery of Meredith more than the overexcited Regis.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'208141\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 12:38 AM\']Meredith's schtick is being calm, cool, and collected.[/quote]I think that's pretty necessary at a game where so much money is at stake so often. I don't want someone cracking jokes with me while I'm trying to remember something I may or may not have learned years ago.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'208142\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 12:40 AM\']
[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'208141\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 12:38 AM\']Meredith's schtick is being calm, cool, and collected.[/quote]I think that's pretty necessary at a game where so much money is at stake so often. I don't want someone cracking jokes with me while I'm trying to remember something I may or may not have learned years ago.
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Especially with the strict time limits, so strict that Meredith's legally not allowed to ask for a final answer anymore, I don't want her to be very jokey.
I think there's a place for having more comical fun in the lower six or seven questions, and she does that well. When it's time to get to business, she does.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'208142\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 12:40 AM\']
[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'208141\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 12:38 AM\']Meredith's schtick is being calm, cool, and collected.[/quote]I think that's pretty necessary at a game where so much money is at stake so often. I don't want someone cracking jokes with me while I'm trying to remember something I may or may not have learned years ago.
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As long as it doesn't break my concentration I'm okay. Just don't do it to me in the upper levels when I really need the concentration time.
And yeah, I agree with you Chad. To a point. I don't believe that the shtick as it is should remain the same level throughout the game, which is what I see.
Exhibit A in Meredith's ability to be properly excited: (Kevin Smith's win)
Exhibit B, a stronger example: (Nancy Christy's win)
Well, I hate to drag out something that seems snarky (because it really isn't my intent here), but I present to the court Defense Exhibit A.
[quote name=\'moi\' date=\' from before\']
I rewatched Meredith's two million dollar wins, and although she improved slightly I felt it really wasn't as played up as it probably needed to be from her side.
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If there's a proper level of excitement there, I really don't see it.
The presentation of the prize moment is done well, but the reactions to the big wins are...well, a tad underwhelming in my book. And that cancels out whatever benefit you have from the second half.
And I reiterate my point that it seems unfair that Drew Carey can be criticized for his failings (and rightfully so) yet when someone tries to do the same thing to Meredith Vieira it's treated as, well, something taboo.
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Meredith has been a good host, in my opinion. She's personable, she clearly roots for the contestant and feels bad when they lose and she doesn't get in the way of the game.
It's a game show and they're meant to be experienced, not studied. You could gio over the same episode with a fine tooth comb 5 times and find places where it could have been "plussed". In the end, though, I'd imagine most people who watched the Christy or Smith wins would have said they were excited when it happened...and not have even noticed what Meredith did. So even if I ceded the point that her reactions were underwhelming, I'd still say "So what?". WWTBAM is more contestant-centric than host-centric.
And really, the difference between TPiR and WWTBAM is great. Who won a Showcase isn't immediately evident. When someone becomes a Millionaire...it's self-evident...so the reveal isn't as important on Millionaire from the host.
But I think Meredith, while not being the greatest host possible, has been a very competent host. I don't have a problem with her.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'208134\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 10:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208132\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 07:22 PM\']She just bores me. I don't feel that she brings the right energy to the show. [/quote]First, if that's what you think, why didn't you just say that in the beginning, as opposed to garbage like "she can't host big wins?" That's at least specific, even though I still disagree.
Second, what energy do you think should be brought to the show? I offered up turned-to-eleven mania, but I think that would be highly inappropriate for the $300 question.
She probably would be pretty good on a panel show though. That environment might be more suited to her.
She won a best host Emmy, right? Clearly someone thinks she's doing just fine.
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PYLdude pretty much summed it up perfectly. When I'm watching Meredith it feels (to me) that the energy level stays the same throughout the show. The weak contestant pool of late combined with the (again imo) overly harsh time limits instated this season don't really help. Regis wasn't perfect either, but watching him I felt more excited about the game.
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Regis just screamed and tried cracking jokes on contestants as they ponder questions from $64,000 and up. Geez, let the player think and concentrate! Besides, when someone did win $1,000,000 with Regis, he just screamed "HE JUST WON A MILLION DOLLARS!", hands the check, drifts away from the player and walks back to the center stage entrance (like itiparanoid13 stated).
Meredith hugs, cries, cheers, shows excitement on her face, etc...Hell, Meredith showed more enthusiasm on players winning $100,000 and up (especially with Lyn Payne's $500,000 win). Even with Payne walking with the $500,000, Meredith still shows the same emotion as in a $1,000,000 win. Yes, it's fun to joke around here and there on the first two tiers, but once you reach that second milestone question and up, no more play. It's serious. People complain about the time limits because of the lack of interaction between host and player. First off, this interaction is done at the player's introduction, sometimes in-between questions, and from commercial breaks. There is still time to tell stories and get to know the player before playing for money. When it comes to actual game play, let the contestant think the question through, answer it and move on with the game.
Contestant Kevin Maroney (I think season Season 4 or Season 5) said it best: "We're here. We are here...in this seat...to answer questions under the lights." And that is what Millionaire is. Answering question after question to win money. Sure, it's fun to poke around here and there. It's not a biography of the contestant. Better yet, the core of the show is listening to the contestant speak thoughts out loud on what they believe the question is, what lifeline to use, the struggle between two answers, etc...
One more thing. I have to defend the clock hardcore. The time limit is there to prevent contestants from making guesses out of the blue that could cost them lots of money. What the clock does best is that it speeds up your thought process on the question so you could arrive at your BEST answer. I don't know about you, but with 10 seconds left on the clock, seeing the contestant do the "should I go with it/should I not" gestures is quite intense at the clock dwindles down. Being in the studio during questions where players were going for $100,000, $250,000 and $500,000...it is VERY intense and exciting. I have sat during games (pre-timed limit) where players took 5-10 minutes to answer Tier 2 questions. I almost fell asleep!
The new evolution of Millionaire is great, and Meredith is fantastic. If you don't like the show for whatever reason, don't watch it. Simple as that. The show still has a dedicated fan base.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'208137\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 08:50 PM\']Or the Emmy voters screwed up. That's where I lean.[/quote] I brought it up because there are some people who do think she's doing a fine job. On the other hand, Bob Barker has a wheelbarrow-full of the things, and one was on his way out, and I think Ben Bailey should have won that one.
I'm not as...well, militant (it was the best I could think of)...in my dislike of Meredith as he is, but my problem with her is that she doesn't raise her excitement level accordingly.
To what level, though? I realize that we're going to disagree about this, and we're as likely to agree as people on opposite sides of Republican/Democrat and Designated Hitter/The Correct Way, but no one has answered my question:
What do you want? And I don't mean "More excitement!" I mean to fill in the blank, "I think Meredith Vieira should be similar to the hosting style of..." whoever you like.
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'208144\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 09:53 PM\']I rewatched Meredith's two million dollar wins, and although she improved slightly I felt it really wasn't as played up as it probably needed to be from her side.[/quote]To what level do you think it should be, though? This is the
And I reiterate my point that it seems unfair that Drew Carey can be criticized for his failings (and rightfully so) yet when someone tries to do the same thing to Meredith Vieira it's treated as, well, something taboo.
Well, hang on a minute here. As much as I like Drew Carey (and a whole bunch of that liking is due to the fact that he's Not Bob) I'm right there in line to give Drew whatfor when he screws up. Like not knowing the rules to his pricing games, or No-Selling DSWs, and so on.
It's not taboo, you're just on the uphill road. It doesn't make you wrong.
[quote name=\'inturnaround\' post=\'208147\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 11:59 PM\']It's a game show and they're meant to be experienced, not studied. [/quote] I wish you had told me this before...
At least to me, it's interesting to go back and look over the episode. To notice things that are different. Or better or worse than the way they've been done before. If we just "experience" the show, and then don't discuss them later...there's not really a reason to have this board at all.
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208156\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 08:23 AM\']When I'm watching Meredith it feels (to me) that the energy level stays the same throughout the show. [/quote] From my own experience, my "excitement", as much as it can be when it's not me and not someone I know, does increase as a contestant wins more money. I don't understand why it's a plateau from you. And I don't understand what you want from Meredith.
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To clarify my "experienced, not studied" line, what I mean is that unlike a drama which should stand up to a lot of scrutiny, a game show is often only experienced once and that the only things that really matter when making one are those that or noticed or felt in the first go-around. If you drill down too deep on a lot of these things, I'm sure you can find fault with a lot, but it's only the feeling you get from watching it the first time that really matters because that is usually the number of times the vast majority of the audience will see it.
I hope that's clear...but I'm too much in my own brain right now to step out of it and see if it is.
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' post=\'208165\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 12:59 PM\']
To clarify my "experienced, not studied" line, what I mean is that unlike a drama which should stand up to a lot of scrutiny, a game show is often only experienced once and that the only things that really matter when making one are those that or noticed or felt in the first go-around. If you drill down too deep on a lot of these things, I'm sure you can find fault with a lot, but it's only the feeling you get from watching it the first time that really matters because that is usually the number of times the vast majority of the audience will see it.
I hope that's clear...but I'm too much in my own brain right now to step out of it and see if it is.
[/quote]It's certainly clear now. I was only half kidding, but the other half was serious: we make it our business to criticize wagers, choosing of consonants and deploying lifelines. But you're also right. There's a limit to everything.
Thank you for the clarification.
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Considering I have a pretty decent number of guns pointed at me already, I might as well give them a reason to be fired.
I enjoyed the show tremendously more during the week Billy Bush hosted. He fit what I look for.
There, I said it.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208174\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 07:26 PM\']I enjoyed the show tremendously more during the week Billy Bush hosted.[/quote]Here, let me flush your credibility for you.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'208175\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 07:37 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208174\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 07:26 PM\']I enjoyed the show tremendously more during the week Billy Bush hosted.[/quote]Here, let me flush your credibility for you.
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See? This is why I was reluctant to answer the question. Because of spiteful snark like this.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208176\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 07:56 PM\']See? This is why I was reluctant to answer the question. Because of spiteful snark like this.[/quote]I'm only joking. Don't take it personally. =)
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'208178\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 08:04 PM\']
[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208176\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 07:56 PM\']See? This is why I was reluctant to answer the question. Because of spiteful snark like this.[/quote]I'm only joking. Don't take it personally. =)
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Yeah, I see it now. Sorry about that.
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[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'208174\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 04:26 PM\']Considering I have a pretty decent number of guns pointed at me already, I might as well give them a reason to be fired.[/quote] Hold it. You have no "guns pointed at you already." I have been asking someone to respond to the question. Which you did...
I enjoyed the show tremendously more during the week Billy Bush hosted. He fit what I look for.
Among the guest hosts they had, I'd put him in the second tier. Below Bergeron, square with Tim Vincent. Slightly above Leeza Gibbons, and way above Roker and Price.
Thank you for answering. It does answer the question, and I don't think your idea is all that crackpot-ish.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'208183\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 09:17 PM\']
Among the guest hosts they had, I'd put him in the second tier. Below Bergeron, square with Tim Vincent. Slightly above Leeza Gibbons, and way above Roker and Price.
Thank you for answering. It does answer the question, and I don't think your idea is all that crackpot-ish.
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Interesting. I thought Bergeron was good, but not as good as he was on Squares, while Price wasn't as bad as the wide majority thought he was.
Honestly, though, I'm probably biased in favor of Billy Bush. I was in the audience for the taping of 3 of his shows and enjoyed it thoroughly, whereas I could imagine myself easily becoming bored if it was a regular taping session.
/Oddly, though, I thought I saw Meredith outside the studio a few hours before the tapings began.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'208163\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 03:09 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'208137\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 08:50 PM\']Or the Emmy voters screwed up. That's where I lean.[/quote] I brought it up because there are some people who do think she's doing a fine job. On the other hand, Bob Barker has a wheelbarrow-full of the things, and one was on his way out, and I think Ben Bailey should have won that one.
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Ben Bailey's a damn good host, for a cab driver. :)
Actually. I like his style. My only concern would be would it work on another show.
I'm not as...well, militant (it was the best I could think of)...in my dislike of Meredith as he is, but my problem with her is that she doesn't raise her excitement level accordingly.
To what level, though? I realize that we're going to disagree about this, and we're as likely to agree as people on opposite sides of Republican/Democrat and Designated Hitter/The Correct Way, but no one has answered my question:
What do you want? And I don't mean "More excitement!" I mean to fill in the blank, "I think Meredith Vieira should be similar to the hosting style of..." whoever you like.
Okay, I fill the blank in with Alex Trebek. Why? He's better at playing up drama then Meredith is and does about the same with big wins as she does.
And I reiterate my point that it seems unfair that Drew Carey can be criticized for his failings (and rightfully so) yet when someone tries to do the same thing to Meredith Vieira it's treated as, well, something taboo.
Well, hang on a minute here. As much as I like Drew Carey (and a whole bunch of that liking is due to the fact that he's Not Bob) I'm right there in line to give Drew whatfor when he screws up. Like not knowing the rules to his pricing games, or No-Selling DSWs, and so on.
It's not taboo, you're just on the uphill road. It doesn't make you wrong.
I agree with you on the Drew points. And he's done quite a bit to earn himself criticism and rightfully so.
So has Meredith, IMO, and I should be able to share my criticisms. That doesn't always happen.
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[quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'208157\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 11:29 AM\'] Regis just screamed and tried cracking jokes on contestants as they ponder questions from $64,000 and up. [/quote] Funny, I never noticed it at those levels.
[quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'208157\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 11:29 AM\']The new evolution of Millionaire is great, and Meredith is fantastic. [/quote] That's your opinion, to which you are of course entitled. But perhaps you should state it as such.
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I just saw Cat's first episode. I think she did a great job, but I think she went a bit too slowly through the first 5 questions. She can build drama well, IMO.
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[quote name=\'Plinko85\' post=\'208278\' date=\'Feb 16 2009, 02:00 PM\']
but I think she went a bit too slowly through the first 5 questions. She can build drama well, IMO.
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Personally, I think that's ok as long as she don't go too slow on the first level in terms of reading the answers.
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Do you want drama? Do you want excitement? Do you want a host that pumps the room full of electricity, way past the recommended capacity? Move over, Meredith. Sayonara, Sajak. What we need is the thriller, the killer, the game show pillar, Michael Tiller (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU9_9LlaYdM\")! (His reaction to the "contestant" "landing" on 90 cents at 1:23 is just what Millionaire needs.)
\And this is exactly why I don't post pictures of myself on the internet. Who knows where they'll crop up.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'208315\' date=\'Feb 16 2009, 09:36 PM\']
Do you want drama? Do you want excitement? Do you want a host that pumps the room full of electricity, way past the recommended capacity? Move over, Meredith. Sayonara, Sajak. What we need is the thriller, the killer, the game show pillar, Michael Tiller (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU9_9LlaYdM\")! (His reaction to the "contestant" "landing" on 90 cents at 1:23 is just what Millionaire needs.)
\And this is exactly why I don't post pictures of myself on the internet. Who knows where they'll crop up.
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The part at 1:42, though, is what makes the vid.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'208329\' date=\'Feb 17 2009, 03:19 AM\']The part at 1:42, though, is what makes the vid.[/quote]
I'll take your word for it, I couldn't make it that far.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'208330\' date=\'Feb 17 2009, 12:39 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'208329\' date=\'Feb 17 2009, 03:19 AM\']The part at 1:42, though, is what makes the vid.[/quote]
I'll take your word for it, I couldn't make it that far.
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No need to. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU9_9LlaYdM#t=1m42s\") (Links to the moment in question.)
I'm still amazed at people that do this. Do they really get an audience hosting their own audio-only mock games? Do they really think that this smuck is better than Drew?
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Ms. Deeley has been studying her Chris Tarrant, and I think she's channeling him nicely. (I just wish she'd have picked a better stage name; a Cat Deeley is a faux raccoon tail on a string sold for $2.99 at Petco. It falls apart within ten minutes of your cat clawing at it.)
[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'208315\' date=\'Feb 16 2009, 09:36 PM\']
Do you want drama? Do you want excitement? Do you want a host that pumps the room full of electricity, way past the recommended capacity? Move over, Meredith. Sayonara, Sajak. What we need is the thriller, the killer, the game show pillar, Michael Tiller (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU9_9LlaYdM\")! (His reaction to the "contestant" "landing" on 90 cents at 1:23 is just what Millionaire needs.)
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I just threw up in my mouth. A lot. Plus some on my lap.
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[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'208471\' date=\'Feb 19 2009, 07:49 PM\']
(I just wish she'd have picked a better stage name; a Cat Deeley is a faux raccoon tail on a string sold for $2.99 at Petco. It falls apart within ten minutes of your cat clawing at it.)
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What's wrong with a shortened version of your first name?
I mean, there's nitpicks...and then there's NITPICKS.
(And believe me, I know both ends of that spectrum. That, and I don't think Cathy Deeley rolls off the tongue as well...)
[quote name=\'dale_grass\']
Do you want drama? Do you want excitement? Do you want a host that pumps the room full of electricity, way past the recommended capacity? Move over, Meredith. Sayonara, Sajak. What we need is the thriller, the killer, the game show pillar, Michael Tiller! (His reaction to the "contestant" "landing" on 90 cents at 1:23 is just what Millionaire needs.)
I just threw up in my mouth. A lot. Plus some on my lap.
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I had to turn down the volume on my comp just to make sure I didn't go deaf. It almost worked.
(I wonder what'll happen the day Tiller decides to use voices of some sort in his games...)
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'208315\' date=\'Feb 16 2009, 09:36 PM\']
What we need is the thriller, the killer, the game show pillar, Michael Tiller (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU9_9LlaYdM\")! (His reaction to the "contestant" "landing" on 90 cents at 1:23 is just what Millionaire needs.)[/quote]
Holy wow. Going from sounding like Napoleon Dynamite to that...holy wow.
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[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'208315\' date=\'Feb 16 2009, 09:36 PM\'](His reaction to the "contestant" "landing" on 90 cents at 1:23 is just what Millionaire needs.)[/quote]
That blood-curdling shriek he bellowed was just disturbing.
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[quote name=\'Hastin\' post=\'208333\' date=\'Feb 17 2009, 08:47 AM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'208330\' date=\'Feb 17 2009, 12:39 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'208329\' date=\'Feb 17 2009, 03:19 AM\']The part at 1:42, though, is what makes the vid.[/quote]
I'll take your word for it, I couldn't make it that far.
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No need to. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU9_9LlaYdM#t=1m42s\") (Links to the moment in question.)
I'm still amazed at people that do this. Do they really get an audience hosting their own audio-only mock games? Do they really think that this smuck is better than Drew?
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Better not leave any negative comments on the YouTube page about this. He has zero tolerance. It'll come right down. Only praise is welcome.
After hearing that announcer, I'm starting to think Daniel Rosen wasn't that bad.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'208472\' date=\'Feb 19 2009, 08:07 PM\']
[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'208471\' date=\'Feb 19 2009, 07:49 PM\']
(I just wish she'd have picked a better stage name; a Cat Deeley is a faux raccoon tail on a string sold for $2.99 at Petco. It falls apart within ten minutes of your cat clawing at it.)
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What's wrong with a shortened version of your first name?
I mean, there's nitpicks...and then there's NITPICKS.
(And believe me, I know both ends of that spectrum. That, and I don't think Cathy Deeley rolls off the tongue as well...)
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You have confused a nitpick with a humorous observation. I'm not sure which one of us should feel badly about it.
Then again, I suppose that if Rip Torn worked for Elmore, then Cat Deeley can work fo Catherine.
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[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'208471\' date=\'Feb 19 2009, 07:49 PM\'] (I just wish she'd have picked a better stage name; a Cat Deeley is a faux raccoon tail on a string sold for $2.99 at Petco. It falls apart within ten minutes of your cat clawing at it.)[/quote]
Reminds me of the X-Men character. Kitty Pryde is something you pour into your litter box.
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[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'208528\' date=\'Feb 20 2009, 08:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'208472\' date=\'Feb 19 2009, 08:07 PM\']
[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'208471\' date=\'Feb 19 2009, 07:49 PM\']
(I just wish she'd have picked a better stage name; a Cat Deeley is a faux raccoon tail on a string sold for $2.99 at Petco. It falls apart within ten minutes of your cat clawing at it.)
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What's wrong with a shortened version of your first name?
I mean, there's nitpicks...and then there's NITPICKS.
(And believe me, I know both ends of that spectrum. That, and I don't think Cathy Deeley rolls off the tongue as well...)
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You have confused a nitpick with a humorous observation. I'm not sure which one of us should feel badly about it.
Then again, I suppose that if Rip Torn worked for Elmore, then Cat Deeley can work fo Catherine.
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I think that'd probably be me, considering I didn't quite get the joke.
(Rip Torn's real name is Elmore? No wonder...)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'208536\' date=\'Feb 20 2009, 10:43 PM\']
Kitty Pryde is something you pour into your litter box.
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Only in my dreams, General.
Would Regis be interested in guest hosting a week?
Would there be interest in Regis guest hosting a week?
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I'd like to see Regis but the problem is that not every "Regis & Kelly" station airs "Millionaire," so Regis might be in time slot competition with himself. Maybe it wouldn't be that big of a deal, though. Does any station run Meredith "Millionaire" opposite Meredith on "Today"?
Myself, I'd like to see Hugh Downs and both of our Matts on the forum get a shot at it. Heck, since I'm as well known as Cat Deely, give me a chance to host!
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'208568\' date=\'Feb 21 2009, 10:59 AM\']Myself, I'd like to see Hugh Downs and both of our Matts on the forum get a shot at it. [/quote]
Only if we can do it at the same time.
Whad'ya say, Snow Boy?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'208569\' date=\'Feb 21 2009, 11:17 AM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'208568\' date=\'Feb 21 2009, 10:59 AM\']Myself, I'd like to see Hugh Downs and both of our Matts on the forum get a shot at it. [/quote]
Only if we can do it at the same time.
Whad'ya say, Snow Boy?
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Oh, I am 'so' there! :)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'208568\' date=\'Feb 21 2009, 10:59 AM\']
Does any station run Meredith "Millionaire" opposite Meredith on "Today"?
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They do not. To insure this (or ensure this), Meredith is only on for the first two hours of the program. Matt usually disappears shortly after the third hour gets underway leaving the remaining twenty hours to the likes of Al, Ann, Natalie, Kathie Lee, Hoda, Kukla, Fran, Friend and Ollie.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'208572\' date=\'Feb 21 2009, 12:23 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'208568\' date=\'Feb 21 2009, 10:59 AM\']
Does any station run Meredith "Millionaire" opposite Meredith on "Today"?
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They do not. To insure this (or ensure this), Meredith is only on for the first two hours of the program. Matt usually disappears shortly after the third hour gets underway leaving the remaining twenty hours to the likes of Al, Ann, Natalie, Kathie Lee, Hoda, Kukla, Fran, Friend and Ollie.
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This was part of the contract for her to join the "Today" show...
Ollie came later, part of NBC 2.0.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'208059\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 10:09 PM\']Is that what those who dislike Meredith's hosting style want? Someone to yell "It's the right answer!" at the top of their lungs every step of the way? What about the idea that she's perhaps trying to stay reserved and composed because that's what the producers tell her to do? Or she wants to be dignified on screen?[/quote]
I don't want her to be the female Patrick Wayne, myself. Her hosting style is fine, I just don't like how she says "Ohhhh, I'm sooooooo soooooorry...." after ALMOST EVERY FREAKING INCORRECT ANSWER. I think that it's more that her laid-back style seems to go against how "big" the rest of the show is: big black set, big dramatic lights, big ominous theme music, et cetera.