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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: teddygrammm on December 27, 2003, 08:13:53 PM
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Not having seen a whole lot of Bullseye, I was wondering how exactly the pictures for the "visual" questions were displayed. The logical thing would seem to be to display them on one of the screens on the board, but I suppose it's also possible that that iris thing behind the contestants could open up and project something.
Anyway, just wondering. Thanks in advance to anyone who might answer.
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[quote name=\'teddygrammm\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 08:13 PM\'] ... but I suppose it's also possible that that iris thing behind the contestants could open up and project something.
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Which is exactly what I think happened.
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[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 08:02 PM\'] [quote name=\'teddygrammm\' date=\'Dec 27 2003, 08:13 PM\'] ... but I suppose it's also possible that that iris thing behind the contestants could open up and project something.
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Which is exactly what I think happened. [/quote]
Yes, I can confirm that for certain, the iris would open and the players would be instructed to turn around and have a look.
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as illustrated by both celeb episodes recently shown on GSN's feast of favorites. Not a bad idea except you get backs to the camera.
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[quote name=\'Starkman\' date=\'Dec 28 2003, 07:57 AM\'] Not a bad idea except you get backs to the camera. [/quote]
...which I always thought was kinda odd, because the two other B/E shows I can think of, The Joker's Wild and Tic Tac Dough, had the projector screen behind the host; he'd step aside to show whatever was on it. You'd think that Bullseye would've (could've?) done the same.
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What was it with B&E having those screens on every show? Play the Percentages had one too.
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[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Dec 29 2003, 05:26 PM\'] What was it with B&E having those screens on every show? Play the Percentages had one too. [/quote]
I'm wondering if Barry/Enright were scared of doing anything original. Honestly, most of their shows were similar to another successful show.
Break the Bank=Hollywood Squares
Hollywood Connection=Match Game
Play the Percentages=Card Sharks
Hot Potato=Family Feud
Also, it seems that B&E simply had one or two formula(e) for their shows, more or less. I mean look at Joker's Wild and Bullseye. Both shows you play to a set dollar amount, and the dollar values/categories were determined randomly from a large gameboard of three windows, even though the configuration was different. To be honest, I see Bullseye as nothing more than an extended "Fast Forward" question from TJW.
And of course there were the avoid the enemy bonus rounds, with some exceptions i.e. Play the Percentages, Hot Potato (avoid the number 0 and a lesser answer, respectively).
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 29 2003, 05:46 PM\'] [quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Dec 29 2003, 05:26 PM\'] What was it with B&E having those screens on every show? Play the Percentages had one too. [/quote]
I'm wondering if Barry/Enright were scared of doing anything original. Honestly, most of their shows were similar to another successful show.
Break the Bank=Hollywood Squares
Hollywood Connection=Match Game
Play the Percentages=Card Sharks
Hot Potato=Family Feud
Also, it seems that B&E simply had one or two formula(e) for their shows, more or less. I mean look at Joker's Wild and Bullseye. Both shows you play to a set dollar amount, and the dollar values/categories were determined randomly from a large gameboard of three windows, even though the configuration was different. To be honest, I see Bullseye as nothing more than an extended "Fast Forward" question from TJW.
And of course there were the avoid the enemy bonus rounds, with some exceptions i.e. Play the Percentages, Hot Potato (avoid the number 0 and a lesser answer, respectively). [/quote]
Regarding the visual categories, Bullseye did have its screen behind the players -- both on the NBC and CBS versions of the syndicated-produced series. I guess it would have made sense to have that screen behind host Jim Lange.
Bullseye was indeed a spinoff of sorts of TJW and TTD rolled into one, and the Q&A format is a extension of sorts of the Fast Forward category on "Joker". But in this case there is the "contract window" in which one or both players have to answer 1 to 5 questions correctly to claim the money in the pot.
It really was a great game show -- its a shame that it lasted two years.
p.s. the Bullseye plungers looked awesome. ;)
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I know once the "Star lights" close in on the window, this means the window's gonna reveal something.
What I want to know is: How did the contents go from Swirl to Bullseye, Lightning, etc.?
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Bullseye was indeed a spinoff of sorts of TJW and TTD rolled into one, and the Q&A format is a extension of sorts of the Fast Forward category on "Joker".
And TJW's "special" Bid Trivia category from later in the run owes more than a passing debt to Bullseye's maingame.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'WorldClassRob\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 04:55 PM\']
Bullseye was indeed a spinoff of sorts of TJW and TTD rolled into one, and the Q&A format is a extension of sorts of the Fast Forward category on "Joker". But in this case there is the "contract window" in which one or both players have to answer 1 to 5 questions correctly to claim the money in the pot.
It really was a great game show -- its a shame that it lasted two years.
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Celebrities, man, they kill a show. Enright didn't learn, either, cause he pulled the same stuff with Hot Potato two years later, and it too crashed and burned. Granted, Barry's passing late in HP's run, nor the Noon time slot it received, couldn't have helped much, but still.
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[quote name=\'WorldClassRob\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 02:55 PM\'] [Bullseye] really was a great game show -- its a shame that it lasted two years. [/quote]
If it was so great, why did none of the networks pick it up? I'm just asking.
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[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 09:01 PM\'] [quote name=\'WorldClassRob\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 02:55 PM\'] [Bullseye] really was a great game show -- its a shame that it lasted two years. [/quote]
If it was so great, why did none of the networks pick it up? I'm just asking. [/quote]
I'd wager that none of the networks were interested in picking up a quizzer at the time, quite simply. A partial list of the quizzers that failed or had unspectacular ratings in the 1975-1980 timeline includes GT's Double Dare, The $128,000 Question, 50 Grand Slam, The Big Showdown, and the 1978 revival of Jeopardy.
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[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 08:01 PM\'] [quote name=\'WorldClassRob\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 02:55 PM\'] [Bullseye] really was a great game show -- its a shame that it lasted two years. [/quote]
If it was so great, why did none of the networks pick it up? I'm just asking. [/quote]
Fear of success. :) Seriously, in 1980, the networks were looking to change the daytime landscape to different forms of programming like Letterman, "Love Boat" and other sitcom reruns. By the summer of 80, ABC only had "Feud;" CBS TPIR and NBC down to WOF, P+ and Card Sharks. Syndication was where most of the action was in the fall of 1980. TJW, TTD, MG, HS, Bullseye, TTTT, LMAD, YBYL and FTM were all in first run syndication five days a week as well as Nighttime FF (five a week and TPIR, MGPM and NTT (once a week.) So the networks weren't buying but the local stations were, so it made sense to go to syndication. BTW, "Bullseye" lasted three years in Detroit. The two years first run and a year of reruns the third. Channel 4 got good ratings with that show.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 08:29 PM\'] [quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 08:01 PM\'] [quote name=\'WorldClassRob\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 02:55 PM\'] [Bullseye] really was a great game show -- its a shame that it lasted two years. [/quote]
If it was so great, why did none of the networks pick it up? I'm just asking. [/quote]
Fear of success. :) Seriously, in 1980, the networks were looking to change the daytime landscape to different forms of programming like Letterman, "Love Boat" and other sitcom reruns. By the summer of 80, ABC only had "Feud;" CBS TPIR and NBC down to WOF, P+ and Card Sharks. Syndication was where most of the action was in the fall of 1980. TJW, TTD, MG, HS, Bullseye, TTTT, LMAD, YBYL and FTM were all in first run syndication five days a week as well as Nighttime FF (five a week and TPIR, MGPM and NTT (once a week.) So the networks weren't buying but the local stations were, so it made sense to go to syndication. BTW, "Bullseye" lasted three years in Detroit. The two years first run and a year of reruns the third. Channel 4 got good ratings with that show. [/quote]
Yep on all points. When Bullseye was canned in 1982, it was even worse on network daytime as each network was down to just one game per web. Thankfully, CBS was about to change that in the 10-11am hour and NBC would get back into the game game in January upon the cancellation of two soap operas.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 10:52 PM\']
Yep on all points. When Bullseye was canned in 1982, it was even worse on network daytime as each network was down to just one game per web. Thankfully, CBS was about to change that in the 10-11am hour and NBC would get back into the game game in January upon the cancellation of two soap operas. [/quote]
CBS had two game shows from Jan-Sep 1982, as Tattletales was back as of 1/18/82 in its original 4PM slot.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 10:59 PM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 10:52 PM\']
Yep on all points. When Bullseye was canned in 1982, it was even worse on network daytime as each network was down to just one game per web. Thankfully, CBS was about to change that in the 10-11am hour and NBC would get back into the game game in January upon the cancellation of two soap operas. [/quote]
CBS had two game shows from Jan-Sep 1982, as Tattletales was back as of 1/18/82 in its original 4PM slot. [/quote]
Oh my gosh!! I forgot about Tattletales. Our area didn't carry the 4:00 CBS show, darn them. They ran The 4:00 Movie instead on WJKW-TV 8 in Cleveland. That's how it slipped my mind. Thanks for the correction.
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Oh my gosh!! I forgot about Tattletales. Our area didn't carry the 4:00 CBS show, darn them. They ran The 4:00 Movie instead on WJKW-TV 8 in Cleveland. That's how it slipped my mind. Thanks for the correction.
Alot of people probably forgotten about the 1980s "Tattletales" -- in Tampa Bay, WTVT ch.13 (now with Fox, like WJ[K]W) shown "Hour Magazine" instead at 4PM.
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[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 06:01 PM\'] [quote name=\'WorldClassRob\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 02:55 PM\'] [Bullseye] really was a great game show -- its a shame that it lasted two years. [/quote]
If it was so great, why did none of the networks pick it up? I'm just asking. [/quote]
Why hasn't a network picked up Jeopardy? (and no, for the purposes of this discussion, Super Jeopardy doesn't count.)
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Alot of people probably forgotten about the 1980s "Tattletales" -- in Tampa Bay, WTVT ch.13 (now with Fox, like WJ[K]W) shown "Hour Magazine" instead at 4PM.
And some of those stations which carried the 80s TT shifted it to other time slots...here in NY, for example, WCBS aired it at noon, as well as replacement Body Language and the last 8 mos of PYL.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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When Bullseye was canned in 1982, it was even worse on network daytime as each network was down to just one game per web. Thankfully, CBS was about to change that in the 10-11am hour and NBC would get back into the game game in January upon the cancellation of two soap operas.
Part of it is also because game shows have always gone in cycles.
They were hot in the mid 60s, for example, only to be on a downswing by 1970. During the early 70s they started building again, to that glorious year 1975, when they were more numerous than at any other time.
In the early '80s they had started disappearing from network television, but by the mid-80s they were all over the dial again, both on network and syndication. In the early '90s they were hard to find, plodding along until 1999, when "Who Wants to be a Millionarie" started them on a major comeback.
I guess game shows are like anything else - sometimes they're up and sometimes they're down. I guess in our views, the down times have occurred too often. It's too bad every year couldn't be like 1975!!
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 11:05 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 10:59 PM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 31 2003, 10:52 PM\']
CBS had two game shows from Jan-Sep 1982, as Tattletales was back as of 1/18/82 in its original 4PM slot. [/QUOTE]
Oh my gosh!! I forgot about Tattletales. Our area didn't carry the 4:00 CBS show, darn them. They ran The 4:00 Movie instead on WJKW-TV 8 in Cleveland. That's how it slipped my mind. Thanks for the correction. [/quote]
IIRC, the CBS affiliate in Toledo, WTOL/Toledo 11 aired "Tattletales" on a 1 day delay, airing it at 9:30AM as a lead in to the CBS AM lineup. Always glad to be able to pick up Toledo channels on the ol antennee back then -- worked out great for Blacked-out Browns games in Cleveland.