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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Mr. Brown on April 01, 2018, 04:23:26 PM
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While I know the questions on PYL are incredibly easy and made so contestants will actually get to play the interesting part of the game, was there ever an episode where nobody earned any spins in either round? Does anybody know what the show's bible/official rules says about that?
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Does anybody know what the show's bible/official rules says about that?
Stop tape and call someone in with an EEG machine to check the contestants for brain activity?
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While I know the questions on PYL are incredibly easy and made so contestants will actually get to play the interesting part of the game, was there ever an episode where nobody earned any spins in either round? Does anybody know what the show's bible/official rules says about that?
No, because they had a special "idiot question" they would go to for the fourth question in a round if it was decided in the booth that not enough spins had been awarded with the first three for their liking. I'm guessing if THAT even failed them (and I doubt it ever did), they would toss the entire question round out and play another one.
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No, because they had a special "idiot question" they would go to for the fourth question in a round if it was decided in the booth that not enough spins had been awarded with the first three for their liking. I'm guessing if THAT even failed them (and I doubt it ever did), they would toss the entire question round out and play another one.
Is there a reason why they couldn't just redo the last question in that case? I know I would be pretty pissed if I were to rack up a big amount of spins, only to have to do it all over again just because one of my opponents is a moron...
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Back when GSN first started running the earliest episodes, wasn't there a discussion about how they'd tossed a whole show at some point over something like there not being enough spins?
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Is there a reason why they couldn't just redo the last question in that case? I know I would be pretty pissed if I were to rack up a big amount of spins, only to have to do it all over again just because one of my opponents is a moron...
Ostensibly if someone racked up a bunch of spins, there would be no need for the moron question.
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I've been trying to find the episode where the contestants only earned 1 spin apiece in round 2 to see if this jives with the official rules...but the only scenarios covered in the bible were the alternate questions in spots 3 and 4 (in either or both question rounds), and that they would stop tape and play a new round if nobody scored a spin in the first three questions of a round.
I assume if they did the show today, they would write in similar "do over" rules for any low spin count, regardless of how it happened.
-Jason
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Is there a reason why they couldn't just redo the last question in that case? I know I would be pretty pissed if I were to rack up a big amount of spins, only to have to do it all over again just because one of my opponents is a moron...
Ostensibly if someone racked up a bunch of spins, there would be no need for the moron question.
Upon closer reading of the OP's question, I realize that he was asking if there was an episode in which nobody earned a spin for the round, so yes, you're correct in that instance. But given I can't recall an instance in which a single contestant sat out a round due to not earning any spins, I have to wonder if they didn't edit out a boffed 4th question at least once at some point....
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I can't recall an instance in which a single contestant sat out a round due to not earning any spins
In round 1 of the below episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBY99Seb0S8
-Jason
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A search for the phrase "flood of Whammys" will link to a previous post that discusses this idea as well as an exerpt from the rules bible that goes over how to deal with those eventualities.
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A search for the phrase "flood of Whammys" will link to a previous post that discusses this idea as well as an exerpt from the rules bible that goes over how to deal with those eventualities.
Here's a direct link (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,24004.msg296945.html#msg296945), to save folks from having to jump through hoops.
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A search for the phrase "flood of Whammys" will link to a previous post that discusses this idea as well as an exerpt from the rules bible that goes over how to deal with those eventualities.
Here's a direct link (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,24004.msg296945.html#msg296945), to save folks from having to jump through hoops.
You're the real MVP.
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I've been trying to find the episode where the contestants only earned 1 spin apiece in round 2 to see if this jives with the official rules...but the only scenarios covered in the bible were the alternate questions in spots 3 and 4 (in either or both question rounds), and that they would stop tape and play a new round if nobody scored a spin in the first three questions of a round.
I assume if they did the show today, they would write in similar "do over" rules for any low spin count, regardless of how it happened.
-Jason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj41rOFnOHU
Here you go. There was also a situation where the players earned a grand total of 2 spins for Round 2, but according to the end of show disclaimer, the episode ran way too short, so they re-taped the 2nd part of the game.
Tyshaun
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Wasn't there another episode last week where they ran into the same problem?
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The episode with the mulligan round:
https://youtu.be/r9umJAZZcc0?t=21m56s
"Round Two failed to generate an adequate number of spins to provide for a full length program. Monies were awarded and Round Two was re-taped with the consent of the three contestants."
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The episode with the mulligan round:
https://youtu.be/r9umJAZZcc0?t=21m56s
"Round Two failed to generate an adequate number of spins to provide for a full length program. Monies were awarded and Round Two was re-taped with the consent of the three contestants."
Rewinding to watch the version of Round Two that aired, Peter seemed to be on a mission to include as many veiled references to the first time through as he can, all of which got a reaction in the studio but would have seemed innocuous to home viewers. Yet another example of his prowess as a host to be able to walk that extremely fine line.
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"Round Two failed to generate an adequate number of spins to provide for a full length program. Monies were awarded and Round Two was re-taped with the consent of the three contestants."
So the player who originally won got the money, and agreed to risk their coming back the next show, probably in exchange for the chance of scoring a second win on this show. I assume that player would have kept it all had they won twice.
Obviously the two losing contestants didn't have to be asked twice.
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So the player who originally won got the money, and agreed to risk their coming back the next show, probably in exchange for the chance of scoring a second win on this show. I assume that player would have kept it all had they won twice.
We're assuming they played the big board at all. They could have given each player some token amount to basically make them ignore the fact the result could have been much different if they played with the original spin counts. Other shows have been vague in cases like this ("due to a technical error, a portion of the second Sprint..." or wronged contestants on TPIR being awarded "the prizes" with no indication of WHICH prizes), so it's possible "Round Two was re-taped" only means the second question round.
IMO, Peter's winking and nodding would have continued into the board portion of the round if they redid everything.
-Jason
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But the disclaimer stated "monies were awarded" so it would appear that they did play the second round and paid the "winner" of the game. It's possible that there were a low number of spins (like 2 a piece), and perhaps missed the fair number of +spin spaces, causing the round to come to a swift end with no amount of Peter vamping rescuing that.
But now that you mention it, "monies were awarded" might have been a payment of $1,500 or something representative of an average spin for each spin they had in order to get them to agree to redo the question round. That might be where the "consent of the three contestants" comes into play, as S&P must have insisted that everyone get something in consideration of waiving the rules. A little expensive, but the alternative is scrapping the whole episode and having to pay the winning contestant anyway (legally, they could probably get around that for an unaired show, but not worth the risk). Also, there's additional crew time to pay for, but it would be much less than shooting a replacement episode either that day or at a future date.
Certainly would be interesting to see the outtake of that, but I would assume that has been lost into the ether since it hasn't shown up already.
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It's also possible the game ended in triple-zero's. Two of the players had nothing going into the round, and if they only had a couple spins between them, it's definitely possible nobody got off the ground.
If they're coming back anyway, might as well just finish the game they've already started.