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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: tommycharles on September 02, 2003, 04:15:24 PM
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Just as a note: sometime in the week of Nov. 9th, 2003 (I'm sure someone has already calculated when), WoF will turn 4000. I'm assuming this is the syndie ep. count, but it's still a heck of a milestone.
Out of curiosity, if they were counting the daytime run, would Wheel have passed the 5000 show mark yet?
Yours,
Thomas
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 03:15 PM\']Just as a note: sometime in the week of Nov. 9th, 2003 (I'm sure someone has already calculated when), WoF will turn 4000. I'm assuming this is the syndie ep. count, but it's still a heck of a milestone.
Out of curiosity, if they were counting the daytime run, would Wheel have passed the 5000 show mark yet?
Yours,
Thomas[/quote]
Going on roughly 250 daytime shows a year for 16 years, not only would \"Wheel\" have passed the 5,000 show mark total, it would've passed the *7,000* show mark and come close to the 8,000 show mark.
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Just as a note: sometime in the week of Nov. 9th, 2003 (I'm sure someone has already calculated when), WoF will turn 4000. I'm assuming this is the syndie ep. count, but it's still a heck of a milestone.
And it's among the 3 wks worth of shows taping at Radio City the weekend after next...I'm there! :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Sep 2 2003, 03:15 PM\'] Just as a note: sometime in the week of Nov. 9th, 2003 (I'm sure someone has already calculated when), WoF will turn 4000. I'm assuming this is the syndie ep. count, but it's still a heck of a milestone.
Out of curiosity, if they were counting the daytime run, would Wheel have passed the 5000 show mark yet?
Yours,
Thomas [/quote]
ummmm....yay??
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Going on roughly 250 daytime shows a year for 16 years, not only would \"Wheel\" have passed the 5,000 show mark total, it would've passed the *7,000* show mark and come close to the 8,000 show mark.
Is it safe to say that \"Wheel of Fortune\" is the game show with the most-ever episodes? I guess \"Price is Right\" would beat it only if you included episodes from the '50s and '60s run.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 07:52 AM\']
Going on roughly 250 daytime shows a year for 16 years, not only would \"Wheel\" have passed the 5,000 show mark total, it would've passed the *7,000* show mark and come close to the 8,000 show mark.
Is it safe to say that \"Wheel of Fortune\" is the game show with the most-ever episodes? I guess \"Price is Right\" would beat it only if you included episodes from the '50s and '60s run. [/quote]
I think WOF would be record holder(about 8,000), with J! in second place(counting the original, about 7,200), the current run of TPIR in third(with about 6500, counting the syndicated versions and primetime specials), and Feud in fourth with 5500-6000(counting all network and syndie runs)
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Why would you count the original version of Jeopardy but not count the original version of The Price Is Right?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 08:56 AM\'] Why would you count the original version of Jeopardy but not count the original version of The Price Is Right? [/quote]
I did say \"The current run of TPIR\", sorry for the confusion. Adding Cullen's run probably would put the count of TPIR episodes arond 9,000. Trebek said on J!'s 3000th show in 1997 that TPIR had 9000 episodes in the can \"and still going strong\", when he discussed other game shows that had made it to 3000 episodes. I'd assume they'd have added Cullen's run to get that figure, as the current run of TPIR hadn't yet hit 5000 at that point.
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I did say \"The current run of TPIR\", sorry for the confusion.
Oh, I saw what you said, I wasn't confused by that at all. I was just curious becaue you chose to include Art Fleming's Jeopardy in your totals but specifically chose not to include Bill Cullen's TPIR. It just didn't make any sense to me that you would count one but not the other.
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It just didn't make any sense to me that you would count one but not the other.
I think one reason for including the original \"Jeopardy\" in the calculations is that, for the most part, it's the exact same show. \"Price is Right\" is a lot different than it was in its original run...but I guess since it's based on the same premise, and has the same title, we should include it.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 10:08 AM\'] [quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 08:56 AM\'] Why would you count the original version of Jeopardy but not count the original version of The Price Is Right? [/quote]
I did say "The current run of TPIR", sorry for the confusion. Adding Cullen's run probably would put the count of TPIR episodes arond 9,000. Trebek said on J!'s 3000th show in 1997 that TPIR had 9000 episodes in the can "and still going strong", when he discussed other game shows that had made it to 3000 episodes. I'd assume they'd have added Cullen's run to get that figure, as the current run of TPIR hadn't yet hit 5000 at that point. [/quote]
Yeah, they just ran that ep. on Sunday. How many shows do you figure for MG? By the time you add up the 4 versions of it, I'd say it has to be at least as many as Feud.
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[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 04:37 PM\'] Yeah, they just ran that ep. on Sunday. How many shows do you figure for MG? By the time you add up the 4 versions of it, I'd say it has to be at least as many as Feud. [/quote]
No.
Edit: I take that back. Was The Match Game a weekly show?
Brandon Brooks
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Using the episode guides at matchgame.org plus uncamark's estimate of 250 daytime shows a year for the original version, I come up with around 4700 episodes of Match Game in all its incarnations (even MG/HS). So if Zach's estimates are correct (and remember, Feud produced ten shows a week for huge chunks of its run) then Match Game falls as much as a thousand episodes short of Feud.
Truth is, there have probably been more episodes of Hollywood Squares than Match Game. A rough estimate would be about 22 complete seasons, which would be over five thousand shows.
Newlywed and Dating would have to be considered as well, I guess, but my gut feeling would be that they fall short of the six we've mentioned.
So where we seem to stand right now is:
1) The Price Is Right (9000+)
2) Wheel of Fortune (8000)
3) Jeopardy (7200)
4) Family Feud (6000)
5) Hollywood Squares (5000+)
6) Match Game (4700)
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745) What's Going On? (5)
And of course, all but Match Game are currently adding to their totals. Anybody want to offer some hard facts to back up (or dispute) any of this? And didn't we do this once before on Usenet?
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 05:41 PM\'] [quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 04:37 PM\'] Yeah, they just ran that ep. on Sunday. How many shows do you figure for MG? By the time you add up the 4 versions of it, I'd say it has to be at least as many as Feud. [/quote]
No.
Edit: I take that back. Was The Match Game a weekly show?
Brandon Brooks [/quote]
The 60s MG was daily, as was the CBS 1973-79, daily SYndie 1979-82, MG90, and MG98. The only weekly version of MG(aside of one or two 60s primetime specials discussed several months ago in Ezboard) was MGPM. Assume 250 episodes a year for 60s MG time 6.75 years=about 1700 episodes. Add 250 episodes a year for the almost 6 years of MG79=1500 daytime episodes. Add to that 230 episodes of MGPM and 525 for the 1979-82 Daily SYndie. MG90 did about 245 and MG98-99 another 175(I think) episodes. That adds up to 4375 if my math is right.
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So where we seem to stand right now is:
1) The Price Is Right (9000+)
2) Wheel of Fortune (8000)
3) Jeopardy (7200)
4) Family Feud (6000)
5) Hollywood Squares (5000+)
6) Match Game (4700)
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745) What's Going On? (5)
And where does Pyramid stand in this grand scheme of things?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 06:55 PM\']
So where we seem to stand right now is:
1) The Price Is Right (9000+)
2) Wheel of Fortune (8000)
3) Jeopardy (7200)
4) Family Feud (6000)
5) Hollywood Squares (5000+)
6) Match Game (4700)
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745) What's Going On? (5)
And where does Pyramid stand in this grand scheme of things? [/quote]
1973-74 CBS:260 episodes(appx.)
1974-80 ABC:1600 episodes
1974-79 weekly syndicated:195 episodes
1981 syndie:100 episodes
1982-88 CBS:1400 episodes
1985-88 Syndie: 575 episodes
1991-92 Syndie: 175 episodes
2002-03 seasonL 175 episodes(?)
4480 is the total of those approximated numbers.
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The 60s MG was daily, as was the CBS 1973-79, daily SYndie 1979-82, MG90, and MG98. The only weekly version of MG(aside of one or two 60s primetime specials discussed several months ago in Ezboard) was MGPM. Assume 250 episodes a year for 60s MG time 6.75 years=about 1700 episodes. Add 250 episodes a year for the almost 6 years of MG79=1500 daytime episodes. Add to that 230 episodes of MGPM and 525 for the 1979-82 Daily SYndie. MG90 did about 245 and MG98-99 another 175(I think) episodes. That adds up to 4375 if my math is right.
I gave MG/HS the benefit of the doubt, which adds those 195 episodes.
To be fair, let's count MG/HS for both series.
Getting down to specifics, matchgame.org says:
Original version: Approximately 1760
70s daytime version: 1455
Match Game PM: 230
Match Game (syn 79-82): 525
Match Game/Hollywood Squares: 195
Match Game '90: 242
Add the 175 episodes of the last syndicated version (as good a guess as any) and we get 4,582.
Zach's pretty much dead-on for the Pyramid numbers too. According to Xanfan's episode guides, there were 4,275 of the original show. If Donny did 175, that's 4,450 total. So Pyramid would overtake Match Game for the #6 spot near the end of their current season.
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I think we have one other show in the 5000 episode range no one has mentioned: COncentration. Some 3700 episodes were done for NBC daytime from 1958-73(roughly 250 episodes a year for almost 15 years), another 875 for the five years of the Narz syndie run(how many episodes of the NBC primetime run were made, I know it's not a huge figure) plus the about 1100 first-run Trebek \"Classic\" shows, would put it at around 5700 shows.
Password if you count CBS day and nighttime version, ABC version, and PLus and Super would have to be in the 4000-5000 range of episodes(appx. 1600 for CBS, another 200-300 for the weekly nighttime CBS version, 1100 for the four year ABC run, appx. 800 for P+, and 1200 for SP)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 07:11 PM\'] So where we seem to stand right now is:
1) The Price Is Right (9000+)
2) Wheel of Fortune (8000)
3) Jeopardy (7200)
4) Family Feud (6000)
5) Hollywood Squares (5000+)
6) Match Game (4700)
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745) What's Going On? (5) [/quote]
And we can't forget...
746) You're in the Picture (1)
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1974-79 weekly syndicated:195 episodes
Not that it makes a big difference to the grand total, but I've heard from other sources that Bill Cullen's 1974-79 version of \"Pyramid\" had exactly 150 episodes - 30 a year for the five years.
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Newlywed and Dating would have to be considered as well, I guess, but my gut feeling would be that they fall short of the six we've mentioned.
You're likely right. Just doing rough math in my head, I'd say \"Newlywed\" and \"Dating\" both fall in the 3000-4000 category, and would be further down than the ones we've mentioned.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 10:17 PM\'] [quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 07:11 PM\']745) What's Going On? (5) [/quote]
And we can't forget...
746) You're in the Picture (1) [/quote]
Add Kingpins to that 746th placing. It was a one-time-only special for Nick-at-Nite in 1988.
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Sep 4 2003, 09:18 AM\'] [quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 10:17 PM\'] [quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 07:11 PM\']745) What's Going On? (5) [/quote]
And we can't forget...
746) You're in the Picture (1) [/quote]
Add Kingpins to that 746th placing. It was a one-time-only special for Nick-at-Nite in 1988. [/quote]
Add any other shows besides King Pins that were \"Unsold pilots\" that aired once(What are My True Colors, Genesis, etc.)
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 10:17 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Sep 3 2003, 07:11 PM\'] So where we seem to stand right now is:
1) The Price Is Right (9000+)
2) Wheel of Fortune (8000)
3) Jeopardy (7200)
4) Family Feud (6000)
5) Hollywood Squares (5000+)
6) Match Game (4700)
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745) What's Going On? (5) [/quote]
And we can't forget...
746) You're in the Picture (1)[/quote]
And:
The Chamber (5)
100 Grand (3)
You all know \"The Chamber.\" The other show was an attempt by ABC to revive the big-money quiz genre in 1963 on Sunday night prime time. Jack Clark hosted and despite being 100% unrigged, it tanked. Clark was happy he kept his day job announcing \"Password.\"
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I'm sure there are actually quite a few shows that made fewer than the five episodes of What's Going On? Didn't mean to suggest that #745 was last place. There was a Playboy Channel game that aired twice, I believe. Not \"Everything Goes\", which was a little more successful. This was an improv game where one team would act out a skit in a certain manner (angrily, hungrily, drunkenly, etc) and the other team had to, basically, name that adverb.
No, I don't think it was called \"Name That Adverb\".
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Never subscribed to the Playboy channel, but I did try to tune it in and all I got were squiggly lines. Was that game show titled \"Do It Now\"?
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By golly, I think you're right. Since I doubt very many TV Guides were listing The Playboy Channel in 1983 or so, how on earth did you remember that?
Oh, and for the record, my roommate at the time worked for the cable company so we got all the channels free, even the pay ones. How sad is it that my memory of The Playboy Channel is about what game shows they ran? Hey, at least you guys have me to thank for the episode of \"Dueling for Playmates\" that's floating around out there.
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The listing was in a newspaper TV page as I recall. It just said something like (PLA) DO IT NOW! Game show. No info beyond that. Since I was interested in game shows I wondered what it was all about.