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Title: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: gamed121683 on January 30, 2015, 03:52:23 PM
According to BuzzFeed writer, Adam Davis. Let the debate begin!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/come-on-down#.xdg98bqPw0
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on January 30, 2015, 04:09:21 PM
Plus points for calling Contestant's Row, points off for "the Wheel and the Showcase Showdown." Gratuitous profanity is gratuitous.

List fails having Pick-a-Number ahead of Double Prices, Switch, One Right, and One Wrong.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: ChrisLambert! on January 30, 2015, 04:14:47 PM
According to BuzzFeed writer, Adam Davis. Let the debate begin!

I come down on the side of "don't click".
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on January 30, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
I wouldn't go that far: it's an OK read by someone who sounds like a normal television watcher instead of an obsessive or an "everything sucks!" snob, though I question the sensibility of trying to stack rank seventy-five disparate things. That said the actual writing leaves something to be desired. Aerobic with care if you do proceed.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: parliboy on January 30, 2015, 04:43:27 PM
I do enjoy how a complaint about their lowest ranked game, "Double Prices", is that there's rarely a big prize on offer; and the screengrab they use shows prices of $10k and $12k.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: SamJ93 on January 30, 2015, 05:23:35 PM
Not only that, but they really couldn't be bothered to get shots of the updated Card and Clock Game sets? The new Card Game set livens up the proceedings considerably, IMO.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: BrandonFG on January 30, 2015, 08:13:57 PM
The pictures credit CBS, so I wonder if they simply used stills offered by the network, or got the screenshots from the first YouTube episode they could find. Not that either would be necessarily wrong...there's also the possibility that the older setup is more familiar to viewers who haven't watched in a while.

Am I the only one who thinks the #1 game is a bit cliché, or is it just playing up to the game that's become synonymous with the show?
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on January 30, 2015, 08:22:00 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the #1 game is a bit cliché, or is it just playing up to the game that's become synonymous with the show?
You're not alone, but there's good reason: there's probably three games that the average casual viewer associates with the show: Plinko, Hole in One and Cliff Hangers.  Having #1 as Plinko means he gets fewer angry e-mails or comments.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Kevin Prather on January 30, 2015, 09:21:01 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the #1 game is a bit cliché, or is it just playing up to the game that's become synonymous with the show?
You're not alone, but there's good reason: there's probably three games that the average casual viewer associates with the show: Plinko, Hole in One and Cliff Hangers.  Having #1 as Plinko means he gets fewer angry e-mails or comments.
I skipped right to the end to see if Plinko would be number one as usual. No shocker there.

Now Golden Road at #28 on the other hand...
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: jjman920 on January 30, 2015, 09:28:09 PM
The pictures credit CBS, so I wonder if they simply used stills offered by the network, or got the screenshots from the first YouTube episode they could find. Not that either would be necessarily wrong...there's also the possibility that the older setup is more familiar to viewers who haven't watched in a while.
It looks like some of the pictures he took off of the official site, some from CBS, and other from YT clips. I'd hope the guy would use the sniping tool instead of pointing and shooting his own camera, which leads me to believe he took the screen caps from a YouTuber who usually posts each game of each show individually with a point/shoot method. That's probably where he got most of these screenshots.

I feel as though Plinko was the mandatory #1, but I agree with Travis in that there'd be more outrage if it weren't in that position than if it were.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: BillCullen1 on January 31, 2015, 11:45:05 AM
The biggest eye opener for me was Master Key at #3. The game with the biggest payoff, Pay The Rent was #38.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: BrandonFG on January 31, 2015, 01:25:47 PM
The biggest eye opener for me was Master Key at #3. The game with the biggest payoff, Pay The Rent was #38.
Given some of the flaws many have pointed out here, I guess it just goes to show that a big payday offering doesn't necessarily make it awesome.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 31, 2015, 03:34:15 PM
Given that this is just one guys opinion -- a guy so ill-informed that he calls the final round the "Showcase Showdown" -- it's hard to get too worked up about his list.

Having said that, wouldn't it be interesting to put a "Top Ten Pricing Games" challenge out to our members, the way we ranked the all-time top game shows and hosts a few years ago?  Even more interesting would be to gather votes from Golden Road.  There's strength in numbers, and a weighted fan vote would go a long way toward establishing a far more "definitive" list.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: JasonA1 on January 31, 2015, 03:43:25 PM
It would be just as interesting to see the results of this group alone, Golden-Road alone, and then the aggregate. I imagine they would be different, but there's no telling until you do. IMO, the votes on G-R could go to one of two extremes. There's a large group over there that tend to prefer the quirkier or older games, like Danger Price or Step Up, whereas another group is all about the games that give away the most.

I love how you can always count on the latter folks showing up in the daily recap thread. An episode was "good" if most of the prizes were won, and an episode is "bad" if they weren't.

-Jason
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on January 31, 2015, 05:36:37 PM
Given that this is just one guys opinion -- a guy so ill-informed that he calls the final round the "Showcase Showdown" -- it's hard to get too worked up about his list.
I'm guessing BuzzFeed pays for writing and not research. I'm not sure he's ill informed; but he's an ungreat writer.

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Having said that, wouldn't it be interesting to put a "Top Ten Pricing Games" challenge out to our members, the way we ranked the all-time top game shows and hosts a few years ago?  Even more interesting would be to gather votes from Golden Road.  There's strength in numbers, and a weighted fan vote would go a long way toward establishing a far more "definitive" list.
I was thinking of this as well. What would be interesting about it is that everyone is entitled to have their reasons for liking a particular game and as long as a reason is given one opinion is worth as much as the next. I salute the board for not letting this thread devolve into reasons why whatever game is ranked wrong or other people posting their own stack rank.

It would be just as interesting to see the results of this group alone, Golden-Road alone, and then the aggregate. I imagine they would be different, but there's no telling until you do. IMO, the votes on G-R could go to one of two extremes. There's a large group over there that tend to prefer the quirkier or older games, like Danger Price or Step Up, whereas another group is all about the games that give away the most.
Isn't this their prerogative, though? Other than the fact that the latter group pollutes the recap thread, do you care one way or another?
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: JasonA1 on January 31, 2015, 05:45:44 PM
IMO, the votes on G-R could go to one of two extremes. There's a large group over there that tend to prefer the quirkier or older games, like Danger Price or Step Up, whereas another group is all about the games that give away the most.
Isn't this their prerogative, though? Other than the fact that the latter group pollutes the recap thread, do you care one way or another?

No, I don't "care" so much as I was predicting their results based on what I read in their forums. I think the GSF vote would be less groupthink inclined.

-Jason
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on January 31, 2015, 05:58:38 PM
No, I don't "care" so much as I was predicting their results based on what I read in their forums.
I think this might be more fun than the original article. (And anyone who ranks Danger Price or Step Up highly is OK by me.)
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Thunder on January 31, 2015, 06:51:17 PM
Meh. It was a typical Buzzfeed article. Mostly fun to read and full of internet memes and phrases.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Kevin Prather on January 31, 2015, 07:28:01 PM
No, I don't "care" so much as I was predicting their results based on what I read in their forums.
I think this might be more fun than the original article. (And anyone who ranks Danger Price or Step Up highly is OK by me.)
I would love to see this happen if someone was willing to organize it.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: MikeK on January 31, 2015, 07:37:34 PM
No, I don't "care" so much as I was predicting their results based on what I read in their forums.
I think this might be more fun than the original article. (And anyone who ranks Danger Price or Step Up highly is OK by me.)
I would love to see this happen if someone was willing to organize it.
I'd be willing to compile the numbers for this board if we can find a counterpart to run it on G-R.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on January 31, 2015, 09:13:46 PM
Best comment in the comments section:

WHAT IS THE OBSESSION WITH PLINKO?! It's freaking horrendous. Every single time they make a big spectacle of it saying you can win FIFTY THOOOOUSAND DOLLARS!! But then the person climbs up the staiway to hell to drop their stupid little pucks into the $0, $1000, $500 and walk away with $2500 and shattered dreams. BY FAR THE MOST OVERRATED GAME OF ALL TIME.

For the most part, the list was okay. Obviously there's going to be some difference of opinion when ranking 70+items, but he's not far off for me. I appreciate him putting the quick decision pricing games at the bottom of his list.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: PYLdude on February 01, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Yes, because getting called up to be in Contestants' Row and winning a chance to play Plinko is so much worse off.

I'd figure this: if you asked a bunch of random people on the street what their desire would be if they were fortunate enough to be there and in that situation (and had full control over it), the two answers you'd hear most often would be "to play for a car" or "to play Plinko".

And for the record, I find a double overbid in the Showcase to be a much larger downer when I watch than someone not winning five figures on Plinko.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on February 01, 2015, 09:01:12 PM
Yes, because getting called up to be in Contestants' Row and winning a chance to play Plinko is so much worse off.
I think the point there (though you can never be sure because internet commenters) is that Plinko is a game of feast or famine; either you win $10,000 or more, or you don't.

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I'd figure this: if you asked a bunch of random people on the street what their desire would be if they were fortunate enough to be there and in that situation (and had full control over it), the two answers you'd hear most often would be "to play for a car" or "to play Plinko".
I think that what we've learned here is that the internet is not random folks.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: PYLdude on February 02, 2015, 07:41:31 AM
Yes, because getting called up to be in Contestants' Row and winning a chance to play Plinko is so much worse off.
I think the point there (though you can never be sure because internet commenters) is that Plinko is a game of feast or famine; either you win $10,000 or more, or you don't.

True. On both statements (Plinko being feast/famine and commenters being commenters...for lack of a better term).

Plinko can certainly be criticized for certain aspects, especially about how much blind-assed luck plays a factor (as in probably moreso than just about any other game with a couple exceptions, and that's saying something), but it's far from the most overrated (I could think of three, maybe four, that could get a better argument and will share if you'd like).

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I'd figure this: if you asked a bunch of random people on the street what their desire would be if they were fortunate enough to be there and in that situation (and had full control over it), the two answers you'd hear most often would be "to play for a car" or "to play Plinko".
I think that what we've learned here is that the internet is not random folks.

Understatement, again. But going back to your point about commentaries on the Internet, I raise the following: far too many have the idea that their opinion counts more than anyone else's (hence why so many bloggers seem like they talk down to their audience).
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: SamJ93 on February 02, 2015, 02:11:29 PM


Plinko can certainly be criticized for certain aspects, especially about how much blind-assed luck plays a factor (as in probably moreso than just about any other game with a couple exceptions, and that's saying something), but it's far from the most overrated (I could think of three, maybe four, that could get a better argument and will share if you'd like).


I think I'd argue that said blind luck is exactly WHY the game is so popular.  People generally like getting money for nothing (and the chicks for free...) 

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Understatement, again. But going back to your point about commentaries on the Internet, I raise the following: far too many have the idea that their opinion counts more than anyone else's (hence why so many bloggers seem like they talk down to their audience).

I didn't get a talking-down-to vibe from this article.  I definitely got a "trying-way-too-hard-to-sound-hip-and-with-it-like-the-young-peoples-today" vibe, though.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: chrisholland03 on February 02, 2015, 03:35:40 PM
I've yet to see a contestant walk off stage because they don't like the game and/or prizes being offered.

(although that would be an amazing stunt)

Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on February 02, 2015, 06:06:49 PM
I've yet to see a contestant walk off stage because they don't like the game and/or prizes being offered.
The closest I've seen was a contestant that played Race Game.  He flat out told Bob the "prizes were nice, but he doesn't need them".  He was booed heartily.

/world champs

Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on February 02, 2015, 06:13:15 PM
but it's far from the most overrated (I could think of three, maybe four, that could get a better argument and will share if you'd like).
I'm interested; what do you think they are, and by what measure?
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Kevin Prather on February 02, 2015, 06:14:28 PM
/world champs
Yeah, just sneak that in there.
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Post by: Steve Gavazzi on February 02, 2015, 08:12:35 PM
/world champs

Only because the Seahawks took pity on you.

/That's actually a better explanation for that pass than anything else I've heard.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: PYLdude on February 02, 2015, 09:28:55 PM
but it's far from the most overrated (I could think of three, maybe four, that could get a better argument and will share if you'd like).
I'm interested; what do you think they are, and by what measure?

Okay, I shall tell you. But only because you asked. :)

My nominees for "the three or four TPIR pricing games that are the most overrated, according to me" are as follows. Keeping in mind these are games still in rotation.

-Pathfinder. I've never really understood its appeal, and maybe it's just me (as is in a lot of cases) but I find it a little hard to understand how this is a game that can't be won every time out. The pattern of correct numbers seems easy enough to solve if the contestant simply listens and pays attention (as in solve without messing up once).

-Card Game. I understand you have to adapt to the times, but this went way overboard and it seems every change they made hurt its enjoyability. Raising the maximum range to $5000 made it too easy to win, and the chrome they added, while aesthetically pleasing, simply glossed over that. I used to like Card Game because there wasn't much room for error and it had to be played well in order to win. Now there's not as much challenge.

-Let 'em Roll. Like Card Game, one that the chrome added to the game was nice, but glosses over something. In this case, Let 'em Roll is just a dull game. Okay, you're guaranteed to win something, which is good, but it's just so...boring.

-Three Strikes. Great, you can win a luxury car. Not so great, having the odds go so greatly against you the farther along you go. Worse, you don't keep track of what goes where and you take forever. Just a slog of a game where by the time you get to the payoff, if you're lucky enough, it feels like an eternity passed.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: PYLdude on February 02, 2015, 09:37:41 PM
/world champs

Only because the Seahawks took pity on you.


I would've gone with "only because Eli Manning wasn't the quarterback of the opposing team", but that's just me. :)



Plinko can certainly be criticized for certain aspects, especially about how much blind-assed luck plays a factor (as in probably moreso than just about any other game with a couple exceptions, and that's saying something), but it's far from the most overrated (I could think of three, maybe four, that could get a better argument and will share if you'd like).


I think I'd argue that said blind luck is exactly WHY the game is so popular.  People generally like getting money for nothing (and the chicks for free...) 

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Understatement, again. But going back to your point about commentaries on the Internet, I raise the following: far too many have the idea that their opinion counts more than anyone else's (hence why so many bloggers seem like they talk down to their audience).

I didn't get a talking-down-to vibe from this article.  I definitely got a "trying-way-too-hard-to-sound-hip-and-with-it-like-the-young-peoples-today" vibe, though.

1) I want my MTV....

Seriously, hard to argue against that.

2) here's my overall point. What you opine about is gonna reach a lot more people than just your intended audience. Hence why some might feel they're being talked down to, because they're not in that "secret circle".

/be sure to drink your Ovaltine
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: jjman920 on February 02, 2015, 09:47:29 PM
-Three Strikes. Great, you can win a luxury car. Not so great, having the odds go so greatly against you the farther along you go. Worse, you don't keep track of what goes where and you take forever. Just a slog of a game where by the time you get to the payoff, if you're lucky enough, it feels like an eternity passed.
I'll just say that, for me, this pays off in the end with some of the best excitement the show has to offer when it comes down to a full count. I'm more on the edge of my seat watching the end of a playing of this than I am during Plinko to see if someone will win $100 or $10,100.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: PYLdude on February 02, 2015, 09:53:02 PM
-Three Strikes. Great, you can win a luxury car. Not so great, having the odds go so greatly against you the farther along you go. Worse, you don't keep track of what goes where and you take forever. Just a slog of a game where by the time you get to the payoff, if you're lucky enough, it feels like an eternity passed.
I'll just say that, for me, this pays off in the end with some of the best excitement the show has to offer when it comes down to a full count. I'm more on the edge of my seat watching the end of a playing of this than I am during Plinko to see if someone will win $100 or $10,100.

I'm quite the opposite. I'd rather see if the guy can win the $10,000 on his last chip than see a guy win a $40,000 car after needing thirteen tries to figure out the proper number sequence.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: JasonA1 on February 02, 2015, 11:04:54 PM
And this small slice of back-and-forth goes to show why the variety is so important, and why there should be a good reason when they retire something. :) I've heard an argument of why Telephone Game should be on the show instead of something like Pocket Change. Anything is possible.

-Jason
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on February 02, 2015, 11:41:27 PM
I've heard an argument of why Telephone Game should be on the show instead of something like Pocket Change. Anything is possible.
If they jiggered the play-in bit I would absolutely be down for it.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: MSTieScott on February 03, 2015, 06:35:16 PM
Based on what I saw from audiences, to the general public, Plinko is the number one pricing game and Cliff Hangers is easily number two. There is no definitive third-most-popular -- just a small handful of games that people can describe in general terms like "the golf game" or "the one where you roll the dice and say higher or lower."

Back in 2007, the Golden-Road.net members held a "tournament" to give rankings to the pricing games. It was done in the style of NCAA basketball brackets, so not all of the games were given numeric rankings, but Hole in One won the tournament with Pathfinder as the runner-up.
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Post by: PYLdude on February 03, 2015, 11:56:42 PM
I do quite enjoy me a game of Hole in One or Two. Cliff Hangers I can give or take. I don't wanna call it overrated but I also don't wanna call it good.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Clay Zambo on February 04, 2015, 07:50:04 AM

-Pathfinder. I've never really understood its appeal, and maybe it's just me (as is in a lot of cases) but I find it a little hard to understand how this is a game that can't be won every time out. The pattern of correct numbers seems easy enough to solve if the contestant simply listens and pays attention (as in solve without messing up once).


What is there to listen for or pay attention to?  Is there some hidden pattern to Pathfinder solutions that I've never noticed?  Always seemed to me that it was a pretty difficult game to win, especially if the second-digit choices are clumped close together. 
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Unrealtor on February 04, 2015, 09:13:56 AM
-Card Game. I understand you have to adapt to the times, but this went way overboard and it seems every change they made hurt its enjoyability. Raising the maximum range to $5000 made it too easy to win, and the chrome they added, while aesthetically pleasing, simply glossed over that. I used to like Card Game because there wasn't much room for error and it had to be played well in order to win. Now there's not as much challenge.

I feel like we're in a weird spot for car prices right now, in terms of having nice-sounding round numbers being a reasonable maximum range. $5,000 is too much, but $2,500 isn't enough and $3,000 and $4,000 just lack something aesthetically.


-Pathfinder. I've never really understood its appeal, and maybe it's just me (as is in a lot of cases) but I find it a little hard to understand how this is a game that can't be won every time out. The pattern of correct numbers seems easy enough to solve if the contestant simply listens and pays attention (as in solve without messing up once).


What is there to listen for or pay attention to?  Is there some hidden pattern to Pathfinder solutions that I've never noticed?  Always seemed to me that it was a pretty difficult game to win, especially if the second-digit choices are clumped close together.

I had the same thought, at least with the current crew over there. Back when it was Roger doing the setups, it seems more plausible to have a route mapped out before starting just from studying the board. The second digit was often somewhat of a gimme if you had even a vague notion of the cost of that model of car, and it was not uncommon in the 90s to have setups where the correct choice for the fourth digit was the one that gave you a choice between 0 and 5 for the fifth.

Just as much as pathfinder, 3 Strikes feels more like a game where you can somewhat improve your odds if you put some thought into your strategy before the game and pay attention while you're playing.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: CJBojangles on February 04, 2015, 04:17:17 PM
Since no one has gotten around to organizing this just yet, I took the liberty of starting the project myself. I've already posed the question over on Golden-Road and created a separate web form for the Game Show Forum voting.

For those of you interested, you may submit ballots here with your rank of the top 50 The Price Is Right pricing games of all time. (http://goo.gl/forms/RloHsJ9PKU)

Instructions are simple: Submit your list, #1-50 along with your name so I can assure there are no duplicates. I'll take submissions through Friday, February 20, 2015.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Neumms on February 04, 2015, 04:21:29 PM
-Pathfinder. I've never really understood its appeal...

-Let 'em Roll. Like Card Game, one that the chrome added to the game was nice, but glosses over something. In this case, Let 'em Roll is just a dull game. Okay, you're guaranteed to win something, which is good, but it's just so...boring.

-Three Strikes. Great, you can win a luxury car. Not so great, having the odds go so greatly against you the farther along you go. Worse, you don't keep track of what goes where and you take forever.

The appeal of Pathfinder is the "wrong move" sound effect taken from (or lent to) Trivia Trap.

Let 'Em Roll seems light on the pricing, and it's actually a novel game. I say put out five items, no free roll.

I heartily concur on Three Strikes. Placing the numbers feels impossible, even without the odds of avoiding strikes. An easy fix would be to spot them one digit free, either the first number they draw or let the contestant choose, a la 2 for the Price of 1. At least it doesn't feel like starting in Philadelphia to climb Mt. Everest.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on February 04, 2015, 04:21:37 PM
I thought it was going to be top ten games because after ten can you really rank further than that before it becomes random?
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Thunder on February 04, 2015, 04:29:32 PM
I thought it was going to be top ten games because after ten can you really rank further than that before it becomes random?

This. I have never been less motivated to fill out a form once I saw this one.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: CJBojangles on February 04, 2015, 04:47:11 PM
I thought it was going to be top ten games because after ten can you really rank further than that before it becomes random?

You specify the criteria. The games aren't so identical that one can't rank at least 25.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on February 04, 2015, 04:59:58 PM
You specify the criteria. The games aren't so identical that one can't rank at least 25.
I think you're completely wrong on this. There are hardly 25 games where I have an opinion other than apathy, and now you're asking me to stack rank Lucky Seven, One Away and Switcheroo? I'm not going to bother doing that because I don't care enough. It's one thing to pick twenty-five or fifty game shows because the range is near a thousand, so it means something to choose a small group from a much larger group. Picking ten or twenty hosts from a pool of a few hundred, same deal, which made the results interesting. You're asking us to choose nearly one-fourth of the whole pool. Does it really matter if Spelling Bee 19th as opposed to Safecrackers?

I could do that for ten, and opening it up to retired games means I could go to fifteen, but asking people to rank twenty-five items out of a range of over 100 is asking way to much of your survey group, and I believe you are going to get back results that would look similar to those those that you'd get from pulling ping-pong balls from a bag, at least for the bottom ten or fifteen entries.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: MikeK on February 04, 2015, 06:25:45 PM
Since no one has gotten around to organizing this just yet, I took the liberty of starting the project myself. I've already posed the question over on Golden-Road and created a separate web form for the Game Show Forum voting.

For those of you interested, you may submit ballots here with your rank of the top 50 The Price Is Right pricing games of all time. (http://goo.gl/forms/RloHsJ9PKU)

Instructions are simple: Submit your list, #1-50 along with your name so I can assure there are no duplicates. I'll take submissions through Friday, February 20, 2015.

Funny.  I said the following on Saturday...

I'd be willing to compile the numbers for this board if we can find a counterpart to run it on G-R.

If speed is the issue (and goshdarnit, I saw tons of people clamoring for ways to rank the games between Saturday and now), life happens.  About a foot and a half of it is on the ground now with more happening at this moment.

I will give up what I volunteered for and have worked on since Saturday.  I'm not too appreciative of the stepping of toes which happened since the weekend, since I volunteered.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: CJBojangles on February 04, 2015, 06:37:04 PM
I will give up what I volunteered for and have worked on since Saturday.  I'm not too appreciative of the stepping of toes which happened since the weekend, since I volunteered.

What you aren't mentioning is that I contacted you privately before doing anything and offered to do the job, you answered immediately and said nothing of the work you were doing "since Saturday" and then didn't respond to me for three days. If that's "toe-stepping", then you have my apologies. If it means that much to you, go for it.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: MikeK on February 04, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
It doesn't mean that much to me.  I'm a bit perturbed I volunteered for the job, worked on this since then, told you privately the parameters, and I stopped conversing because it was a dead issue to me.  I was looking for someone to handle the G-R side of things, not have someone grovel to me asking if I can forego this project because they wanted to do it.  As I said earlier, I have too much on my plate (and my driveway) to do this in a timely manner, completed within the month.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Kevin Prather on February 04, 2015, 06:48:31 PM
Well, this certainly turned.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: dale_grass on February 04, 2015, 09:01:55 PM
Can't we just all agree that 10 Chances is our favorite game and leave it at that?

\ As opposed to contestants' favorite game, The Barker-Has-A-Senior-Moment-Resulting-In-A-Technical-Win Game.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Kevin Prather on February 04, 2015, 09:48:50 PM
Bullseye 1.0 for dayz.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on February 04, 2015, 10:54:23 PM
"Switch".  Because, don't you see?  You can "switch" them!  Or NOT switch them.  Brilliant!
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Fedya on February 05, 2015, 08:02:41 AM
Bump, because everybody wants to see the models swivel their hips.

OK, seriously, I'd pick Switcheroo.  Good and smiple game mechanics, a difficult decision for the contestant, and lots of play at home value.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: CJBojangles on February 05, 2015, 09:33:59 AM
Alright, it would make sense that the site devoted to TPIR would have much more interest in the previous format. So here's a much more simplified checkbox-style form. This should be much easier.

Just select 10 games here to vote. (http://goo.gl/forms/lx2ULpuVMr)
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on February 05, 2015, 11:34:37 AM
Alright, it would make sense that the site devoted to TPIR would have much more interest in the previous format. So here's a much more simplified checkbox-style form. This should be much easier.

Just select 10 games here to vote. (http://goo.gl/forms/lx2ULpuVMr)

Done.  I encourage everybody to do the same.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on February 05, 2015, 12:25:37 PM
That was a much more pleasant user interface, and a thought-provoking question. I eagerly await the results.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: JasonA1 on February 05, 2015, 03:59:41 PM
I found myself putting the whole list in front of me on Excel, putting my definite favorites aside, and deleting any I know I didn't care for from the remaining list. After that, it got easier to sort out the remainder to round out my ten.

-Jason
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Clay Zambo on February 05, 2015, 06:08:38 PM
Bullseye 1.0 for dayz.

Watching an Aussie "Price" the other day, I was reminded how they used a Bullseye-1-like game as their Showcase Showdown, which I thought was kind of brilliant.  Their rank-all-the-prizes-in-order Showcase game, on the other hand, was maddeningly difficult.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: BrandonFG on February 05, 2015, 09:05:56 PM
I actually had a lot of fun doing that one. Look forward to the rankings!

Add me to the list of people who loved how the Aussie's did it.

/Didn't mind the solo "range finder" bonus round from Davidson's TPiR
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: CJBojangles on February 10, 2015, 12:03:27 PM
Slight bump... The form is still live for those of you who wish to make a submission. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12G2FOpVLwN9Ude0wi4e5I0XKxLwDNjkt82rcsRVZPvE/viewform?usp=send_form)

Interestingly, the frontrunner in each poll (the one here and over at G-R) is very different. The pricing game holding the top spot from this forum is currently ranked #6 on the other. Also, 36 of the 107 games haven't received any votes at all, 23 of which are in active rotation.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: MikeK on February 10, 2015, 12:22:26 PM
Since I'm not up on my terminology, what defines "in the active rotation"?  Are those only games that are played weekly or every other week?  Do those include games like Rat Race and Magic # which appear once a month?  How many games are in the active rotation?
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: SuperSweeper on February 10, 2015, 02:01:09 PM
Since I'm not up on my terminology, what defines "in the active rotation"?  Are those only games that are played weekly or every other week?  Do those include games like Rat Race and Magic # which appear once a month?  How many games are in the active rotation?

The active rotation consists of all of the games that are still being played on the show, no matter how often they are played.  There are exactly 75 games in the active rotation.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: MikeK on February 10, 2015, 06:22:53 PM
Okay, that makes sense.  I thought the active rotation might be those games seen on a regular basis, not including games played maybe 3 times per year like Golden Road and Triple Play.  By active rotation, it's all active games.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on February 10, 2015, 10:26:43 PM
Watching an Aussie "Price" the other day, I was reminded how they used a Bullseye-1-like game as their Showcase Showdown, which I thought was kind of brilliant.  Their rank-all-the-prizes-in-order Showcase game, on the other hand, was maddeningly difficult.
You call it maddeningly difficult. I call it great TV. I watch the Showcase now to guess the prices, but it's really not good TV when someone wins 9 times out of 10. Any Showcase round where a player plays against the house is A-OK with me.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: TLEberle on February 10, 2015, 10:35:34 PM
You call it maddeningly difficult. I call it great TV. I watch the Showcase now to guess the prices, but it's really not good TV when someone wins 9 times out of 10. Any Showcase round where a player plays against the house is A-OK with me.
The fact that TnPIR was modeled on LMAD isn't lost on me, so it doesn't surprise me that the showcase round has winners more than it doesn't.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Neumms on February 19, 2015, 04:47:00 PM
I was reminded how they used a Bullseye-1-like game as their Showcase Showdown, which I thought was kind of brilliant.  Their rank-all-the-prizes-in-order Showcase game, on the other hand, was maddeningly difficult.

It just think Bullseye-1 and that Showdown aren't much fun. There's no skill, no strategy, just two people going back and forth, back and forth until ultimately one takes a stab at $36,482 instead of $36,483. I'd like it more if they displayed, say, 10 price tags (or, heck, five price tags and re-use that prop) covering a broad range of prices and the two took turns picking. At least there would be play-along value.

While crazy hard, the Aussie Showcase itself is a crazy huge amount to win, isn't it?
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on February 19, 2015, 05:10:56 PM
For many years, it was just the standard showcase. It wasn't until later (03/04?) that they added a $500K condo. They then scrapped that for a six figure cash prize that normally took the showcase into the $200K range.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: CJBojangles on February 21, 2015, 08:13:38 PM
While the number of responses may be a bit underwhelming, here are the results for those interested:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/CJBojangles/Image2a_zps8e43743a.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/CJBojangles/Image2b_zps326e8e1a.png)

I'm still tabulating the results for Golden-Road, but I'll tell you there's a similar affinity for Super Ball. There's just something really fun about Bob Barker and skee-ball.
Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: chrisholland03 on February 22, 2015, 05:54:07 PM
Pick-a-Pair would have rated higher had it retained its Ferris Wheel  :'(

Title: Re: The Definitive Ranking Of “Price Is Right” Pricing Games
Post by: Matt Ottinger on February 22, 2015, 08:12:19 PM
Ten Chances is a pleasant surprise to see on the top spot.  I also think this shows that the show is a lot fonder of Lucky Seven than the fans are.  Other than that, I'm not wildly surprised by anything, including that we as fans aren't super into Plinko.  I'll be interested in how the Golden Vote plays out.