The Game Show Forum
The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: mbj233 on April 08, 2008, 12:16:44 PM
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I Won it Live offers a Live Online game show where you can become a contestant on that show while sitting at your computer. There is nothing like this and it is free to join and free to play. Prize range from $10-$1000 gift cards. This is the only site to offer this on the internet. Come check us out!! http://www.iwonitlive.com (http://\"http://www.iwonitlive.com\")
Upcoming shows:
Tuesday April 8th @ 9PM EST
Wednesday April 9th @ 9PM EST
Thursday April 10th @ 9PM EST
Friday April 11th @ 9PM EST
Saturday April 12th @ 7M EST
Sunday April 13th @ 7PM EST
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[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183548\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 09:16 AM\']
This is the only site to offer this on the internet.[/quote]
Here's a little hint: Spamming a message board dedicated to game shows, where users are likely to be a little better informed about these things, with patently false claims like this just isn't going to work out well for you. (http://\"http://playcafe.com/\")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183552\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 12:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183548\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 09:16 AM\']
This is the only site to offer this on the internet.[/quote]
Here's a little hint: Spamming a message board dedicated to game shows, where users are likely to be a little better informed about these things, with patently false claims like this just isn't going to work out well for you. (http://\"http://playcafe.com/\")
[/quote]That said, I'm surprised the post got through with said false claim.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'183559\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 02:13 PM\']
That said, I'm surprised the post got through with said false claim.
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I felt like sharing the pwning wealth. ;-)
(As an aside, the OP posted it in three of our subforums, which screamed "SPAM" before I even read it.)
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Yeah...um...this is somethin', isn't it?
I find it odd they have a secure server authentication tag at the bottom of their home page, but it's not a secured page...hmmm...
(Can we even prove this site existed in 2005 without Mr. Astroturfer telling us?)
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'183563\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 01:29 PM\'] Yeah...um...this is somethin', isn't it?
I find it odd they have a secure server authentication tag at the bottom of their home page, but it's not a secured page...hmmm...
(Can we even prove this site existed in 2005 without Mr. Astroturfer telling us?) [/quote]
The name was first registered since 2000, so it's totally conceivable to place a 2005 date on there, even if they weren't doing live shows at the time.
When googling the username, it's pretty funny to see what comes up in the jobs he's gotten freelancers to do for him.. My favorite bid request:
"I need a website designed like digg.com with a few changes."
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They go to a staggering amount of effort to point out "there is nothing like this" considering, not even counting PlayCafe, that there are any number of websites where you can play games and win prizes.
Click on their "games" button and you'll see that the offerings are just TPIR pricing games with different names. PlayCafe isn't radically original in their game selection either, but at least they're not such a brazen ripoff. Of course, if these guys have gotten product manufacturers as sponsors, that puts them at least one step ahead of PlayCafe, which appears to continue to be running on seed money.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'183563\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 11:29 AM\']
(Can we even prove this site existed in 2005 without Mr. Astroturfer telling us?)[/quote]
Now, hold on a second. Technically, this isn't astroturf, since the guy made no bones about his direct affiliation with the site. If it was "Hey, I heard about this great site..." like we've gotten here in the past, THAT'S astroturf. This is spam.
If we're going to mock the chucklehead mercilessly and publically, let's at least be correct about it. :)
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'183566\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 11:51 AM\']
"I need a website designed like digg.com with a few changes."
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So he worked for AOL, did he? (http://\"http://www.propeller.com/\")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183572\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 03:37 PM\']
If we're going to mock the chucklehead mercilessly and publically, let's at least be correct about it. :)
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Um, whoops. Got my bonehead terminology mixed up. :)
And further reference, the site no longer comes up for me. All I did was a computer switch...still using Firefox and still using Windows XP SP2.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'183574\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 12:42 PM\']
And further reference, the site no longer comes up for me. All I did was a computer switch...still using Firefox and still using Windows XP SP2.
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Don't think it's you. I don't get it either, and IE throws an Error 500.
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The site is back up (like we care, anyway).
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'183569\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 03:11 PM\']
Click on their "games" button and you'll see that the offerings are just TPIR pricing games with different names.
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Lets see:
Checkout = It's in the Bag (in pricing principle)
Hi Lo = Hole in One pricing portion
On the Edge = Cliffhangers
Frugal Shopper = maybe Credit Card?
Go For It = maybe Shopping Spree?
I Don't Think So = One Wrong Price variant
Match Game = One Right Price
Bargain Hunter = Ezekiel's Bargain Bar
That's Not Rite = One Wrong Price
Deal Wheel = "Wheel of Fortune"
Pricing Game = lots of small-prize games (Punchboard comes to mind)
Raise the Bar = Range Game
WM# = Bullseye ('72)
Treasure Hunt = Fortune Hunter
*Price Match = Swap Meet
*Happy Days = Now or Then
*Press = Step Up variant
*coming soon
..yeah, reeks of ripoff.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'183583\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 02:31 PM\']
<snipped the list>
..yeah, reeks of ripoff.[/quote]Granted, I can't smell (damn that anosmia!), but man alive, if there was ever a better Judgment for Plaintiff in an IP infringement suit, I haven't seen it.
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Maybe I'm just overthinking this...but if they're gonna rip off It's in the Bag and Hole in One, don't you think they could at least fudge better names for them than "Check-Out" and "Hi Lo?"
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'183598\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 11:43 PM\'] Maybe I'm just overthinking this...but if they're gonna rip off It's in the Bag and Hole in One, don't you think they could at least fudge better names for them than "Check-Out" and "Hi Lo?" [/quote]
No... no... I'm pretty sure it's just them underthinking it.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'183598\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 09:43 PM\']
Maybe I'm just overthinking this...but if they're gonna rip off It's in the Bag and Hole in One, don't you think they could at least fudge better names for them than "Check-Out" and "Hi Lo?"
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Let's recap this...they have:- Engaged in what is clearly a for-profit exercise (nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but keep reading)
- Done so with either no knowledge of their market competitors, or no respect for their potential clients
- Stolen someone else's IP to do it
- Engaged in clear spamming practices to promote it
Do you still want to ask that question? :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183630\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 01:22 PM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'183598\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 09:43 PM\']
Maybe I'm just overthinking this...but if they're gonna rip off It's in the Bag and Hole in One, don't you think they could at least fudge better names for them than "Check-Out" and "Hi Lo?"
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Let's recap this...they have:- Engaged in what is clearly a for-profit exercise (nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but keep reading)
- Done so with either no knowledge of their market competitors, or no respect for their potential clients
- Stolen someone else's IP to do it
- Engaged in clear spamming practices to promote it
Do you still want to ask that question? :)
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Engaged in what is clearly a for-profit exercise (nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but keep reading)
Of course this is for profit.
Done so with either no knowledge of their market competitors, or no respect for their potential clients
Show me 1 competitor for us and do not say PlayCafe. PlayCafe is not even close to what we do on our live show. If you want us to ask trivia ??? then act like idiots for a minute well then just keep playing at PlayCafe.
Stolen someone else's IP to do it
Total lie. We own that server.
Engaged in clear spamming practices to promote it
This is not spamming. This forum is a related topic to our website and i only posted it once.
If you are going to bash us at least do so honestly. I really do not care if you do but be truthful.
You should at least know what you are talking about. Come take a look at tonights live show then tell me we are ripping someone off.
As far as our static games on the site, Yes the are TPIR like but who said that they have the rights to every priciing game in the world?
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[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183732\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 12:09 PM\']
Show me 1 competitor for us and do not say PlayCafe. PlayCafe is not even close to what we do on our live show. If you want us to ask trivia ??? then act like idiots for a minute well then just keep playing at PlayCafe.
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From your original post:
[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183548\' date=\'Apr 8 2008, 12:16 PM\']
I Won it Live offers a Live Online game show where you can become a contestant on that show while sitting at your computer. There is nothing like this and it is free to join and free to play.
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Since PlayCafe also is a "live online game show" and allows you to "become a contestant on that show while sitting at your computer," yes, it's a competitor.
Stolen someone else's IP to do it
Total lie. We own that server.
In this case, "IP" stands for "intellectual property."
This is not spamming. This forum is a related topic to our website and i only posted it once.
Complete horse manure. You posted it three times. And I know, because I am the one who approved the copy of your message posted to the Big Board, and rejected the copies posted to Video and Audio Clips and Show Summaries.
If you are going to bash us at least do so honestly. I really do not care if you do but be truthful.
Since you've just lied about spamming, you're not the one to talk about being truthful.
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[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183732\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 09:09 AM\']
If you want us to ask trivia ??? then act like idiots for a minute well then just keep playing at PlayCafe.[/quote]
Classy way to talk about your competition. That would be the "no respect" thing I mentioned.
Stolen someone else's IP to do it
Total lie. We own that server.
Thank you for this. I really needed a laugh like that this morning, after how the Sharks stunk up the joint last night.
This is not spamming. This forum is a related topic to our website and i only successfully posted it once.
Fixed that for you.
If you are going to bash us at least do so honestly. I really do not care if you do but be truthful.
I fail to see where you have successfully refuted one single thing I have said.
As far as our static games on the site, Yes the are TPIR like but who said that they have the rights to every priciing game in the world?
You may be right, and that's for a court of law to decide. Doesn't make your act look any more creative or professional, though.
Run along now, spammer.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'183737\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 12:47 PM\']
Stolen someone else's IP to do it
Total lie. We own that server.
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I think we can upgrade you to "astroturfer" now. Unless I missed something. That line tells me you ARE them.
/figured the IP line would do it.
//I can almost guarantee that you would not win against TPIR/Fremantle/Barker/Syd/And Co. in court.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'183743\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 01:27 PM\']
I think we can upgrade you to "astroturfer" now. Unless I missed something. That line tells me you ARE them.
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No, he's never denied being part of it. Even his first post says "Come check us out..." (emphasis mine), rather than "Hey look at this site I found, you should take a look too" or somesuch.
Liar? Yes. Spammer? Yes. But astroturfer, no.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'183743\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 12:27 PM\']I think we can upgrade you to "astroturfer" now. Unless I missed something. That line tells me you ARE them.[/quote]
To be fair to the person we're all taking turns beating up, he never said he wasn't them -- in fact, in the original post, it says, "come check us out!" So it was never an astroturf so much as a full-on ad.
That said, commence with the evisceration. I'm sitting back, drinking Mexican Coke, and generally enjoying watching this one get his.
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'183743\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 10:27 AM\']
I think we can upgrade you to "astroturfer" now. Unless I missed something. That line tells me you ARE them.[/quote]
I haven't pulled out this old chestnut in a while:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9759/picardbv6rw9.jpg (http://\"http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9759/picardbv6rw9.jpg\")
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If I were they I would have done a trademark search on such phrases as "Match Game" and "Treasure Hunt" and seen what turns up.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=sear...state=14t96.1.1 (http://\"http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=14t96.1.1\")
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Hoping I can properly quote the improperly quoted original...
Show me 1 competitor for us and do not say PlayCafe.
That's a little like Pepsi saying "show me one competitor, and do not say Coke." More specifically, it's like The Price Is Right saying that a trivia game doesn't count as a game show. The games you play are (I assume) certainly different than the games they play, and I'm sure you must have different approaches in other ways as well. But to keep saying that you're the only one out there just because you don't like PlayCafe is just absurd.
If you want us to ask trivia ??? then act like idiots for a minute well then just keep playing at PlayCafe.
First, charming. Second, I invite anybody who's interested to check out your YouTube (http://\"http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ptDAXttcQc\") videos and compare for themselves how wildly superior you are to the non-existent competition of PlayCafe.
Stolen someone else's IP to do it
Total lie. We own that server.
I've got nothing to add, I just really thought this needed to be quoted again.
You should at least know what you are talking about. Come take a look at tonights live show then tell me we are ripping someone off.
As far as our static games on the site, Yes the are TPIR like but who said that they have the rights to every pricing game in the world?
Fair enough, I do plan to check you out. As for TPIR, it's not so much the legal issue of whether you've violated some sacred copyright. It's more the issue of creativity and originality, both of which appear severely lacking when the games you offer are so obviously not your own original ideas.
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I will be joining forces with "I Won It Live".
Expect some changes and updates in the near future.
More to come,
-Dan Berger
FLASHGames²/Buzzsaw TV
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[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'183765\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 06:40 PM\']
I will be joining forces with "I Won It Live".
Expect some changes and updates in the near future.[/quote]
Well THAT'S the best news in the entire thread so far.
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[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'183765\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 06:40 PM\']
Expect some changes and updates in the near future.
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Hopefully you're taking over the Customer Relations department. ;)
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Ok so what i gather looking at all your response to my post is that we should shut down. Not 1 of you have looked at our live show to see that we offer something totally different then PlayCafe. They ask trivia ??? that are answered in a flash applet. Where is the player interaction there? If that is what you truly call a live game show then i am wrong. As for us our members answers are given to us directly and are then used in our games. As for the rest of the comments i still say that we were the first to bring a live game show like ours to the internet.
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[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183784\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 12:45 AM\']
Ok so what i gather looking at all your response to my post is that we should shut down. Not 1 of you have looked at our live show to see that we offer something totally different then PlayCafe.
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Sounds to me like it's sour grapes. You guys are late to the party.
As for the rest of the comments i still say that we were the first to bring a live game show like ours to the internet.
As I like to say.....
<TPIR buzzer and losing horns>
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[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183784\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 12:45 AM\']
Ok so what i gather looking at all your response to my post is that we should shut down.
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That might be a good idea, but only if you're going to continue to avoid listening to anything we say, or Dan says.
Not 1 of you have looked at our live show to see that we offer something totally different then PlayCafe.
Again, you are not "totally different" from PlayCafe any more than Coke is "totally different" from Pepsi or The Price is Right is "totally different" from any other game show. People come to PlayCafe to answer questions and win stuff. People are supposed to come to your site to answer questions and win stuff. "Totally different" is just laughable.
They ask trivia ??? that are answered in a flash applet. Where is the player interaction there? If that is what you truly call a live game show then i am wrong. As for us our members answers are given to us directly and are then used in our games.
If you don't believe that there's any "player interaction" in PlayCafe, then you've never played one of their games. (You might recognize that as the same accusation you made against us earlier in your post.)
As for the rest of the comments i still say that we were the first to bring a live game show like ours to the internet.
You might have had the first site up, but PlayCafe certainly had a successful, working live game before you did. And as for the "rest of our comments," which involve accusations of spamming, lying and insults, does this mean you're not going to bother to address those?
You may well have, underneath all the spam, indignation and propaganda, a usable concept. But so far you've done nothing to demonstrate that you have either the skills or the maturity to carry it off. Nor do you need to slam PlayCafe to be successful. If you truly do offer something unique, people will see that and come to you without having to be told "the other guy sucks" -- and if you aren't, telling them otherwise is just going to make things worse for you.
If Dan can steer you in the right direction, good for both of you. I have the feeling that he's got a lot of work on his hands, though.
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My turn to take another crack at it.
[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183784\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 12:45 AM\']
Ok so what i gather looking at all your response to my post is that we should shut down. [/quote]Well that's just petty. No one here said anything of the sort. Despite the criticism you're getting (not all of it deserved, I feel) we are very much the game show fans you want to be attracting. The fact that so far you're not doing a very good job of it speaks more to your approach than to our attitude.
Not 1 of you have looked at our live show to see that we offer something totally different then PlayCafe.
This is untrue. I spent a few minutes at your site yesterday. Not enough to offer a full review (that will come, though) but enough to hear several of our members named as contestants on some of your games.
They ask trivia ??? that are answered in a flash applet. Where is the player interaction there? If that is what you truly call a live game show then i am wrong.
Part of this whole exercise is trying to get you to see that yes, in this particular instance, you are wrong. What Commissioner of Internet Game Shows ruled that because their questions are in a Flash applet and your game is played on a physical game board, then you're a game show and they're not? Both shows have live video of hosts reading and responding to messages in a chat window. You are a lot more alike than you seem to want to believe.
One key difference that I see is that at PlayCafe, everybody is always playing the game, whereas on your show, the contestants are the lucky ones who got through, and everybody else watches them play until the next game.
As for us our members answers are given to us directly and are then used in our games. As for the rest of the comments i still say that we were the first to bring a live game show like ours to the internet.
Well, you've managed to add the qualifier 'like ours' to your claim, that's a step in the right direction. There's no question your show is different that PlayCafe's. We're just telling you it's not different enough for you to go around saying you're unique.
I'll also refine my analogy. This isn't like Pepsi claiming that Coke isn't a competitor. This is more like Pepsi claiming Sprite isn't a competitor. The differences are more obvious, but they're both still just carbonated sugar water.
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Matt this is in response to your last post.
I will concede the fact that PlayCafe is a online game show and that people here seem to think it is a competitor for us. I still feel that our conepts are in 2 different directions. Their show everybody is playing and answering trivia ??? while on our show it is more of the surprise factor when you are called as a contestant ( Now i will probably get these responses again that we a ripping off TPIR) Our games on our live show are mostly games of chance. Knockout (card game 6 players) AceyDucey ( card game 2 players) Concentration ( Card Game 2 player) Pass ( Card game 4 player) War (card Game 2 Player) Stopper (Card game 3 player) Press ( Pricing game 1 player) High Hand ( Card game 4 player) and We play AceyDucey again as it is our members favortite game. Our shows last about 2 hours .
On our average show we give out $120 in gift cards to our players that are to some of the top websites.
All our games are controlled by our hosts and there are no possibilities for us to fix a game. There are only 2 games played that there could be no winner and that is Press and Pass otherwise all the other games have a winner everytime they are played. <<<<Is that something other sites can say?
To answer my spamming issue.... I thought the title of this forum is the game show forum... If this was the IPOD forum and i posted then i would deserve what i am getting. I did post in a couple of catagories i felt we fit But only posted to each once.
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[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183804\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 08:22 AM\']
To answer my spamming issue.... I thought the title of this forum is the game show forum... If this was the IPOD forum and i posted then i would deserve what i am getting. I did post in a couple of catagories i felt we fit But only posted to each once.[/quote]
My, that's a little different than "I only posted it once," isn't it?
Dude, you spammed, and you got caught. Suck it up.
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I'll leave the rest to others, but since I'm the one who deleted your spam, I'll address this part:
[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183804\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 11:22 AM\']
To answer my spamming issue.... I thought the title of this forum is the game show forum... If this was the IPOD forum and i posted then i would deserve what i am getting. I did post in a couple of catagories i felt we fit But only posted to each once.
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Okay, let's take a closer look at this. You posted your announcement to three different subforums: Video and Audio Clips, Show Summaries, and the Big Board. Even if you hadn't bothered to read the rules for posting in the first (and you should have), the description notes that it is for "video and audio clips found on the web." You may use video and audio, but even a cursory glance of the other posts there would have told you that your content was not the sort of thing that belongs in that subforum. The description for Show Summaries reads "Results and SPOILERS of individual game show episodes, including reruns and classic GSN® shows." In no way does your site fit that description either. And then you insisted "I only posted it once." One post to the Big Board, which was the appropriate area, was enough; multiple posts insult our intelligence and are, in fact, spam.
Face it. You spammed, got caught, then tried to lie your way out of it. That doesn't fly here.
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[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183804\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 11:22 AM\']
I will concede the fact that PlayCafe is a online game show and that people here seem to think it is a competitor for us. [/quote]And I will concede, breaking from one of my co-moderators (which I never like to do), that what you did to introduce yourself to us fell far short of 'spamming'. I understand that you wanted to draw attention to yourself, and I'll willing to believe that you didn't really know how our board operates. In all honesty, it would just have been redundant for the message to have appeared in all three forums anyway, everybody here eventually gets around to reading everything.
As for calling PlayCafe a 'competitor' specifically, I certainly think that there is a broad pool of game show fans who will be interested in both shows, but honestly the two appear to be so different that serious fandom will find little overlap. Much like we game show fans can enjoy both The Price Is Right and Jeopardy!, but almost anyone who's serious about it will tend to prefer one a lot more than the other.
I still feel that our conepts are in 2 different directions. Their show everybody is playing and answering trivia ??? while on our show it is more of the surprise factor when you are called as a contestant
Absolutely. Two completely different approaches to the same basic idea -- doing a game show on the internet. This is all my point has ever been.
Our games on our live show are mostly games of chance. Knockout (card game 6 players) AceyDucey ( card game 2 players) Concentration ( Card Game 2 player) Pass ( Card game 4 player) War (card Game 2 Player) Stopper (Card game 3 player) Press ( Pricing game 1 player) High Hand ( Card game 4 player) and We play AceyDucey again as it is our members favortite game. Our shows last about 2 hours .
Again, a seriously different approach to the everybody-plays model that PlayCafe uses. I would be interested in finding out how engaging it is for the people on your site who AREN'T playing any given game to watch the lucky few play.
On our average show we give out $120 in gift cards to our players that are to some of the top websites.
There you totally have an advantage over PlayCafe. Their average payouts are much, much smaller. Also, for being a game that's based on skill, their awarding of prizes is very much based on luck.
All our games are controlled by our hosts and there are no possibilities for us to fix a game.
Careful with your choice of words. From what little I saw, it would seem to be very, very easy to fix several of the games if you really wanted to. You have no reason to, and I don't see why anyone would accuse you of doing so. But again, saying there are 'no possibilities' when that's clearly not the case is a lot like saying you're the only internet game show -- and that's what got you in trouble here to start with!
There are only 2 games played that there could be no winner and that is Press and Pass otherwise all the other games have a winner everytime they are played. <<<<Is that something other sites can say?
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking here. PlayCafe has winners for each of their games. I imagine just about every site that has multiplayer games has winners. What's the big deal about a game having a winner? That's just expected, isn't it?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'183814\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 10:11 AM\']
And I will concede, breaking from one of my co-moderators (which I never like to do), that what you did to introduce yourself to us fell far short of 'spamming'.[/quote]
That's fair. Was it "spam" in a Sanford Wallace sense? No. Did he post it multiple times unnecessary (whether he knew this was frowned upon or not; keep reading) and then, when called on it, lie about it? Yes.
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[quote name=\'mbj233\' post=\'183804\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 11:22 AM\']I will concede the fact that PlayCafe is a online game show and that people here seem to think it is a competitor for us.[/quote]You concede that we do, in fact, hold the opinions that we claim to hold? Gee, thanks.
("I'm sorry if anyone took offense at what I said.")
answering trivia ???
Now this--this is driving me crazy. Questions. Trivia questions. Please.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'183828\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 02:13 PM\']
answering trivia ???
Now this--this is driving me crazy. Questions. Trivia questions. Please.
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What's funny about this is that, in the context of his original PlayCafe slam, I took this to mean that he was questioning whether the stuff PlayCafe asked was actually quality material.
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A very simple question: has anyone here (BESIDES the topic starter) tried one of these games? Is it even worth it?
(If no-one has, I wouldn't be surprised.)
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'183833\' date=\'Apr 11 2008, 02:28 PM\']
A very simple question: [/quote]
With a very simple answer, had you actually read the thread you just posted in.